Posted in music on August 12, 2005

"I know, "people gotta make a living" and "business is business" and etc. etc. I'm not passing judgement here, just relaying an FYI: Absolutely Kosher, Hush, Spinart, Lookout, Taang!, and a number of other labels have just recently shown up as new members on the RIAA Membership List." [Catbirdseat]

Krucoff has the Lookout MP3s



Comments (6)

this is a pretty huge deal. i know a lot of bittorrent and other file sharing sites were operating following RIAA guidelines, and a lot of these indie label's releases were fairly leaked and passed around without the RIAA guard (check out the site as one BT example). it'll be pretty interesting to see how these labels will use the RIAA membership to their advantage.

Posted by holmes | August 12, 2005 10:57 AM

Someone mentioned this on the Hush Records message board and Chad Crouch, the label's manager, said that they were not in fact part of the RIAA. I'm just gonna copy/paste it here.

"HUSH is not part of the RIAA. I wouldn't even know how to set that up. The only possible explanation I can think of for this misinformaton is that the corporate umbrella of our main distributor NAIL/Allegro could have some affiliation, and might have implicated their label constituency?

I had a kid email me a year ago saying he was sad to see our name on, and he couldn't support us. I emailed that website and the RIAA directly. corrected it. The RIAA itself did not. I saw many other questionable labels on there as well, particularly some affiliated with our distributor.

I personally do not agree with the lawsuits and intimidation tactics of the RIAA. From my point of view, an allegiance with the Record Industry behemoth is anathema to our mission statement, line 1: To build community. At least the way I see it, community has to grow organically. Trying to dismantle the sharing/pirating of music on the internet, is a fundamentally flawed goal because it does nothing to build on the impressive infrastructure that the community built. Moreover, it would be personally hypocritical to draw that line.

Filesharing contributes to word of mouth for labels like HUSH. It WILL happen inevitably. If it undermines the business models of the majors, that only means more market space and radio waves for indies to inhabit. I see this happening locally on Portland's 'modern rock' commercial station, KNRK, where Spoon, The Arcade Fire, The Postal Service, Bright Eyes, etc. are replacing Limp Bizkit and so on. The aforementioned artists have experienced both heavy filesharing and impressive sales, by indie standards. This suggests a modern corollary, wherein independents can compete with majors when filesharing multiplies the effective distribution, bringing independent bands to the forefront, without payola, Mtv, and massive marketing dollars.

Enough people seem to pay for music to keep lean operations like ours healthy, and beleive me, we appreciate it.

Chad Crouch"

Posted by Michael | August 12, 2005 11:56 AM

wow. refreshing to read the words of an intelligent and rational member of the music industry.

Posted by Chris | August 12, 2005 12:09 PM

Well, we've been asked about this half a dozen times in the last two weeks since Catbirdseat posted about it. Here's the deal. We signed a deal with Fontana distribution early this year (February) which, as you may know, is owned by Universal. They have some sort of agreement in place where they report sales and the like to the RIAA. Without an exclusive contract with a distributor, our records (particularly those by our younger "developing" bands) had been brutally under-distributed and we were in need of a change. We tried to have any involvement with the RIAA removed from the contract, but it wasn't a negotiable point and I wasn't prepared to throw our whole distribution deal out the window over this. Suffice to say, we've had no communication with the RIAA directly, we won't be showing up at any meetings and they can bite my ass. We're listed on their site under "Distributed Labels of Reporting Companies" and that's pretty much what we are - a distributed label of a reporting company.

Posted by Cory Brown | August 17, 2005 9:41 PM

"...and they can bite my ass." - you rule

Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2005 10:58 PM

How many company of Telecommunication in the world

Posted by company | May 21, 2008 4:50 AM

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