Way to take Schreiber's quotes completely out of context. Pretty lame attempt to make him seem like anything other than a nice guy, which from reading that article IN ITS ENTIRETY, is exactly how he comes off.

I doubt they'll hire you now.

i have to agree w/ the first poster, bv u are a ragging cajun flamin' homo boy!

how is that out of context?

nice guy or not, who cares? he says his personality and his job are two different things, but distancing himself from the CYHSY rating is
all about him, not them. he says they're not great live (untrue, in my opinion, but thats irrelevant), but the rating was for their album,
not their shows. basically, this guy made his brand what it is by riding the coattails of three artists they gave big, attention-grabbing reviews for: Broken Social Scene, Arcade Fire, and
now CYHSY. he may be sweet, but he's Machiavellian. and i have trouble with his self description as a journalist. i dont think people that write album reviews and little articles about a band going on tour are journalists. some rock criticism and writing is journalism; pitchfork
is not.

oh-no-he-did-ant!

those snippets don't really convey the overall tone of the article IMO.

Or another way to put it is that the Broken Social Scene, the Arcade Fire and now CYHSY made their brands by riding the coattails of big, attention-grabbing reviews given to them by PItchfork.

and yet, when I asked, Ryan said the name "pitchfork" didn't come from anything.

Who is he to decide that CYHSY has had too much to fast if Pitchfork reviews are all about the music? He contradicts himself/the site in that article.

That said it's better to have Pitchfork around than not. But the site is still wack like Snow.

just for the record, I did not pick quotes out with the intention of making Ryan look bad.

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that old gag

Whether it makes a band famous or destroys them, PF should get props for not being beholden to advertisers. It's almost a sport these days...pick up any music magazine, read a positive review, then see how quickly you can find the half-page color ad paid for by their record company. "3.5 out of 5 stars" should be redefined as "we hated the album but didn't want to piss off the record company who buys ads". Plus, I think the bigger PF has gotten, the more they have backed off the gratuitous snark.

ryan is really nice, i think this article portrays that.

although, i gave him a cd once, and he said the exact same thing, "i don't have anything to listen to on the way home! this is great!"

maybe he says that to everyone, but he really doesn't have to be that nice, especially when it seems that 90 percent of the indie kids want to hate him.

Here's a blog that critiques Pitchfork's reviews and news items: tuningforkmedia.blogspot.com

Not being beholden to advertisers? Ryan has single handedly duped the entire music business! Shortly after he started the site, he exaggerated the amount of traffic they would get, and emphasized that small indies would get precedence if they advertised. That's always been an unsaid thing, but it always struck me as bizarre, the amount of cojones this guy had for not having much at all. Pitchfork was just as big as many other sites back then (Splendid, War Against Silence). If anything, he should be crowned the best hustler in the music business. How goes that old saying? If you keep telling people you are one thing, they believe it.

Unsaid probably because it didn't happen. I don't know what your source on this is, but Pitchfork didn't even start selling ads until 1999 and has never promised favors in exchange for advertising.

jack - I don't know anything "back then" but for the time we've had the current office staff in place we've been considerably bigger than Splendid, etc., and our editorial dept. is in *no way* beholden to advertisors.

Ryan isn't "hustling" anyone-- unlike print publications (who, from my print experience, tend to claim that every issue has roughly 2.5 readers), it's impossible for Pitchfork to exaggerate the benefits of its ads for those paying for them. Our ad buyers see the click-throughs themselves and for the number of readers we deliver, it's a bargain.

*about "back then",*

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