Man killed at Korn concert

He was with a preggers girl AND a mentally handicapped kid? That makes it so much worse.

WTF brings a pregnant woman to a Korn mosh pit? WTF was security?

Mentally impaired probably describes much of the audience.

It's amazing what people call a 'mosh pit' nowadays. I remember the good old days at death metal and hardcore shows when Nazi skins, long hairs, and punks would literally beat the shit out of each other and walk away from it.

First mistake- going to a KoRn concert. All downhill from there.

That's awful. I can't imagine what the collective IQ of their fans must be.

The other part of the story is that there was supposed to be no mosh pit. It was designated as a GA area. So the fault really seems to be that of security.

Dude... you're not making any sense. People mosh in the GA standing area... how about you remove head from anus, go to a few gigs, and then wow us with your inane input.

i'm usually cranky, but jesus people, someone died here. show even a littlest bit of respect. that's all i'm saying...

"Man brain dead after Korn gig"

...not really surprising, is it.

Dan, i totally agree

I remember seeing the Rollins Band back in '93 and some dude had razor blades taped up and down the arms of his leather jacket in the pit. No one was moshing at that show....

Sounds a little more fucked up than the MTV blurb would lead you to believe...

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/0801metbeating.html

first of all, it's a Korn concert. Second of all, it's in Atlanta, is pretty much 100% drunk idiots.

Richardson's mother is right... they should stop doing concerts. "They" should stop doing anything where there is a risk of someone getting punched. Or there should be at least one security protecting each person at the concert... to make sure they don't get punched. SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!

hey, joe, the woman is grieving. chill, dude.

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grieving? she's lining things up for a fat lawsuit against the venue! That's not the kind of comment one makes out of grief...
Her phone is probably ringing off the hook... getting all lawyered-up by now.

joe, are you related to ann coulter?

Joe. Quit judging. A mother just lost her son.

Not a Korn fan, but the IQs of most people who left comments here do not seem to be very high either. Many people who listen to only classical music think the same about you. Not that they're any better.

I'm pretty sure when Pavement broke up the collective IQ of rock and its fans in general dropped. No one's getting any smarter by being a fan of Bloc Party.

you people are fucking sick for finding wit in that. I don't care for Korn's music, and I probably wouldn't care for the people found in the mosh pits of their shows. But that doesn't make their lives any less important.

guess i'll be staying home listing to sirius ... i can take a message. cant wait for the news reports to catch wind of this though: KORN KILLS FANS --- or some lame bs blaming the band when security might not have done their job.

No one's getting smarter by listening to Pavement either. It's this idiotic notion that you are smarter than the people who listen to bands you don't like, that makes me worry about the intelligence level of "music fans" who always choose to write something negative about bands they don't like or get. I am always eager to hear good things about a band I'm not familiar with. I'll check them out if I get a chance. No one who likes Korn or Bloc Party is going to stop listening to them, because you say you're smarter than them.

in response to God, it sounds like what the anon guy was trying to say is that this was an ampitheatre show and the section where this went down was a sloping lawn that's located behind the pavilion seating. i've been to quite a few shows and while this section is GA, it's not a mosh pit. the ajc article sounds like a bunch of assholes were tumbling down the lawn and crashing into people. doesn't sound like a mosh pit to me.

I'm smarter than you. Seriously, I am.

Pretty brutal cynical board here. I find it hard to believe that a grieving mother would be more concerned with a lawsuit than with the loss of her boy. Pretty cynical indeed.
As for the two murderers, looks like there will be three dead people in Georgia after a Hotlanta jury gets a hold of them. Does that seem hypocritical to anyone or is that justice? I haven't decided yet.

As far as intelligence goes, I do think that as groups along the bell curve are examined, most people at a given point along the curve have a preference for music that's more sophisticated or challenging than the music that most people at a point corresponding to a lower intelligence show a preference for, all other things being equal. But I don't think this difference has much importance, especially when it comes to evaluating someone's life!

Not everyone who listens to KORN's music has a low I.Q., people. I am a school teacher with two college degrees and an I.Q of 137. (137 is in the Superior range). Anyway, I have been to at least 50 concerts in my life and many of them had mosh pits. Some were very dangerous, such as the ones at an Ozzfest about 7 years ago, and therefore I did not participate. My husband went in and came back out less than 20 minutes later with somebody else's blood all over him. However, we have both been in numerous ones and sustained injuries such as minor bruises. The worst we were ever injured was the night at a Stuck Mojo concert where we both left with a black eye from elbows. (We never even tried to stay together- you immediately get caught up in the movement.) It was funny when we found each other later because we were not hurt badly. All this to say: if you are pregnant - get out of the way! Your husband should not have to ask people not to hurt you or a child who is with you. YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE WAY. YOU SHOULD HAVE MOVED. It is tragic what happened and I feel very badly for the family. I really do. However, people choose to be in a mosh pit. It has nothing to do with security unless they are trying to stop one from starting. They are not there to referee the pit.

i love how since this happened at a korn gig, it's automatically assumed it must've happened in the pit. talk about spreading misinformation. this happened in the *LAWN* section of an ampitheatre.

former high school brainiac - i'd have to totally disagree. I went to a fun yet average undergrad college and most students were into music that you would describe as more sophisticated. However, I went to an Ivy grad school and people didn't have well-developed musical tastes at all. People who listen to indie rock or classical, etc., merely have a better or more well-developed appreciation for music which probably means they had piano lessons as a kid and had a middle to upper-middle class background (and they had time or took the time to develop said interest). I think that most indie music listeners are merely privileged (not in a bad way, just in a lucky way), but not necessarily more intelligent.

well, lori, no offense, but you should read the article that musick linked up thread. it doesn't sound like he was in a mosh pit.

I've never heard anyone recite her IQ score before. That's hilarious. Go teachers! hahahaha

hey Ms. "Superior IQ" why don't you read the article (or this thread) first before stepping on your soapbox. The victim was not in a mosh pit.

Interesting comments about the general I.Q. of the audience. My I.Q. is 137 - in the Superior range. I am a teacher with two college degrees. That doesn't mean that I can't like the music of KORN. I was in a mosh pit at a KORN concert, but I understood that I was taking a physical risk. The pregnant girl and the child should have moved away from the pit and he shouldn't ask people not to hurt them. THEY SHOULD HAVE MOVED AND THE INCIDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. Come on, people. I know this is a tragic incident and I am sorry for the family. The men obviously were wrong and just plain inhumane in their actions. Hopefully there will be "three dead people in Georgia".

Interesting comments about the general I.Q. of the audience. My I.Q. is 137 - in the Superior range. I am a teacher with two college degrees. That doesn't mean that I can't like the music of KORN. I was in a mosh pit at a KORN concert, but I understood that I was taking a physical risk. The pregnant girl and the child should have moved away from the pit and he shouldn't ask people not to hurt them. THEY SHOULD HAVE MOVED AND THE INCIDENT WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. Come on, people. I know this is a tragic incident and I am sorry for the family. The men obviously were wrong and just plain inhumane in their actions. Hopefully there will be "three dead people in Georgia".

Several articles that I have seen, including the statement accredited to MTV at the start of this page, stated that the incident did occur in the mosh pit. As for the person who said you have never seen someone post an I.Q. score before, I merely was responding to all of the comments about the intelligence of the fans at the show. By the way, f*** you.:)

Korn sucks. seriously.

My IQ is 137. I hit the "post" button several times. I teach school. The children are out future. I am in the Superior range. 137. Me. Believe it.

Korn sucks. seriously.

School Teacher -- I believe the 137. But that was before you started RAWKIN TO KORN.

Believe it.

Hi all. I'm a genius. I keep clicking and posting to this music blog so that more people will finally understand how Superior I am. Yes, you heard right: Superior. As in Mentally Dominating you until you start weeping out of sheer genius-awe. Don't question my BrainPowers -- I have a number to back it up. From a test I took when I was 8.

Oh, and I also love Jewel's poetry, Beanie Babies, New Kids on the Block and rolling around in my own poo. But since I am a genius, my wretched taste is not only forgiven but sublimated into an act of cultural brilliance.

Lori, for someone with an IQ of 137, you're pretty fucking stupid. And annoying.

Many "smart" people have bad taste.

'schoolteacher' is one word, genius

no wonder our children are so poorly educated these days

you guys are fucking losers with all this futile Korn trash-talking and stereotyping. Korn does suck but Jesus take a step back and look at this thread...it makes me embarrassed to have one leg in you wanna-be hipster holier-than-though-yet-sorely misguided little world. get a life.

what more is there to say but "that's too bad that someone died."? Trying to one-up each other with jokes about how much Korn and their fans suck is like shooting fish in a barrel, except no one asked you to shoot and there's more interesting things going on everywhere around you.

Your karate is a joke.

db - Should I clear what I say with you first? I want to be sure that my thoughts don't offend your refined sensibilities.

i am a school teacher and dont even know me iq - just stay one chapter ahead of the students and well all is cool. ask joe klein about how anyone can be a teacher with all the incentives offered to blockheads like me. smoking dope doing stage dives - dudes it is such a trip. being a teacher - it aint that big a deal. but killing peeps - dat aint cool. i tells my kids - dont kill me and all is good.

People still listen to Korn? I know tweakers in Bakersfield still do, but they don't qualify. Wait, people over 17 listen to Korn? Wow.

But seriously, despite the nature of the band, it really isn't fair that you can't go have a good time without some mouth-breathing abomination ruining everything. Happens all the time. But not like this. I hope the violent animals responsible for this tragedy get caught and gangraped daily in prison.

Something occurred to me: We have eyewitness accounts only from the friends of the deceased. What if he was actually the aggressor and the punch that knocked him onto the concrete was thrown in self-defense? So don't be so eager to send those two guys to the gas chamber.

I'm seriously crying for this tattooed,bucked toothed wanker.The fact that a 30 YEAR OLD KORN FAN put his knocked up girlfriend and a mentally handicapped kid in a Korn mosh pit speaks volumes about the intelligence of the nu metal generation.

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You people who sit and talk shit about the band are truly ignorant pathetic loser F^&*S.
I've spent plenty of time chatting with kids in korn based chat rooms, at gigs, at promo events and plenty of other places and the kids range from 8-21 and up. out of every 10 of the hundreds even thousands that Ive spoken with, 8 say that korn has not only gave them a will to live, but kept them from ending their own life. I too am one of them.
Now, this fan base you all want to call names...is built up of hurt, broken kids and children-adults, who have had a tragic disfortune of being either abused physically, verbally, sexually or by being abandoned by the one or both of the only people we should have nothing but unconditional love from by nature. OUR F&*()G PARENTS. Now, a band comes along with a passionate, caring, hurt just like us front man...who sings about our issues, our daily pain....but gives us hope and lets us know we are never alone. And you all would crucify them in a heart beat because 1 fucked up individual made an extremely bad call by bringing his wife and kid to the show. I feel for his wife and kid, i hope they find the guys who did it and justice is served because personally I hate violence, killing, hurting or seeing anyone else hurt. But ya know what.....that's what korn is all about....STOPPING THE MADNESS.
I would give my life for my belief in this band, after all its only because of them im here anyway. WE ARE ALL CHILDREN OF THE KORN. Like us, hate us, or just leave us the f^&K alone

"I've spent plenty of time chatting with kids in korn based chat rooms..."

We're sending someone right over to attach your tracking device. Thanks for tipping us off.

tha children of the korn was born from your porn

hahhaha

I don't see why people are throwing such a fit. Yes it's sad, but it's the man's fault in my opinion. He took a disabled dude, a pregnant woman, and himself to the mosh pit, his IQ was low. This does NOT mean all Korn fans IQ is low, it simply means this guy was an idiot.

Jesus Christ, will you late-coming commenters read the comments that have been already posted and learn that they weren't in the mosh pit after all? Here again is a link to the article that reports this:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/atlanta/stories/0801metbeating.html

have some respect for this man, his unborn child, and girlfriend. theres no need for fighting at shows. everyones egos are getting in the way of actual fun. mosh pits arent the same anymore. i dont even know what to call them but a bunch of oversize white angry boys waiting to prove to everyone around them that they can punch one in the face. hardcore sh!t people. come on already. grow up and stop ruining the fun for everyone. and yes there are simply people who run their mouths but thats no excuse to punch a man. i hope this guy gets it good. i hope he rots knowing everyday that he killed a man over simply trying to protect his girlfriend and unborn child. rather then walking away he had to prove he was better then that man by punching him? i mean come on how old are all of us anyway?

Generally, when people talk about how "dumb" other people are it's masking something about themselves. I was also unaware that drunken idiots were confined to Atlanta. But I guess if the "smart" people say so, it must be true.

QUOTE: "The fact that a 30 YEAR OLD KORN FAN put his knocked up girlfriend and a mentally handicapped kid in a Korn mosh pit speaks volumes about the intelligence of the nu metal generation."

Ahh, dude. He wasn't in the mosh pit. The fact people form opinions on things without having adequate facts at their disposal speaks volumes about the intelligence of the average American.

guess what guys.

my dick is bigger than yours!

damn u r always goin to get the shit beat out of u at a moshpit thats the fun part

Guys. I am dear friends with the victim's sister and I can tell you that aside from your expected grief, these folks are not acting out any differently than can be expected. A mother lost her son.
But anyway, my real point is that it seems most folks here do not know the story. Or at least do not understand what happened
MOsh pit or not, all Andy did was ask someone to be careful when they slammed into his pregnant friend. That dude, left and then returned LATER and beat the guy down. They were on the lawn which, if you know this venue is not where the "mosh" pits usually happen. The lawn is full of blankets and people sitting down watching the show from hundreds of yards away.
Anyway, that doesn't even matter.....Mosh pit's are fine.....but that wasn't the issue. The issue was that the guy simply asked someone to be careful or "watch it" or whatever....I do not know the exact words used. Whatever they were, they didn't warrant the beating.
Next time you're trying to mind your own business and someone bumps into you by mistake............be careful when excusing yourself........you may get beaten and you may die.

By the way.......
They arrested the guy.

http://www.myspace.com/andys_voice

So as a parent of 2 teenaged girls wanting to attend the concert here in Ohio. Oh btw, they are 15, do you think I should think twice about letting them go by themselves....getting more than a bit nervous. The only thing going for it is that it starts at 2 in the afternoon.

I believe that if these girls are responsible, which in deed they really are, they should be able to go. They get good grades and could kick anyones butt

I believe that if these girls are responsible, which in deed they really are, they should be able to go. They get good grades and could kick anyones butt

I believe that if these girls are responsible, which in deed they really are, they should be able to go. They get good grades and could kick anyones butt

I believe that if these girls are responsible, which in deed they really are, they should be able to go. They get good grades and could kick anyones butt

Korn FAN!!: COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT? I CAENNOT SEE AND HEAAR

All this talk of the intelligence of music listeners forget thats not what music is about. music is about expresion and laid out there for a listener to take ones own meaning from it. and the blame game trying to be laid on korn and security it is general knowledge that mosh bits get violent and dangerious u dont need to have been to a concert to know this

holy cow? am i reading this correctly... some pregnant woman brought a gun to a Korn benefit concert for the mentally disabled and opened fire in the moshpit?

That doesn't make any sense to me... and I have an extremely high IQ.

this is really bad, i actually just went to the Family values tour in Moline illinois and there was just as much moshing as usually im surprized they didnt at least tell the audiance about this death, ppl really need to chill out :(

KORNNNN OWNNNS! Hehe im going to their concert tommorow HAHAHAHAHH n y not go to a korn concert theyre like the best ever so yeaa

i just have to say why would you ever bring your pregnant wife to a korn concert to begin with or your disabled son? lets think about shit before we do stupid things.

i dont see korn as a nu-metal band to me they are better and sound a lot different than the stereotypical nu-metal bands like limp bizkit and linkin park.Also the people who sit there and judge korn and their fans are just a bunch of ignorant mother fuckers who blame music on today's problems.The 30-year old man was a fan and he wanted to go to their concert.He didnt let the fact that his son was handi-capped and all that shit stop him from going.Plus they were at a long distance from the band NOT in the mosh pit,so to sit there and blame a band on a fans death is incredibly stupid

The problem was the 2 unidentified men, who caused the problem in the first place. They were out for mayhem, and they created it. Hopefully cameras got a good look at them. They should be tried for murder.

The problem was the 2 unidentified men, who caused the problem in the first place. They were out for mayhem, and they created it. Hopefully cameras got a good look at them. They should be tried for murder.

Man I was just in my first mosh pit ever at the Iron Maiden show. It was incredible.

y in the fuck would any1 bring a pregnent woman & a retard to a fuckin korn concert

y in the fuck would any1 bring a pregnent woman & a retard to a fuckin korn concert

korn is da shit yall no wen they go on 2ur agen

It's a sad situation and my heart goes out to his family. True, he shouldn't have been anywhere near the pit with his pregnant girlfriend and mentally disabled son in tow. Even if the confrontation did or did not take place in the mosh pit itself, that doesn't excuse the behavior of the neanderthals who mortally assaulted him. They apparantly have no self control over their actions and deserve to pay for their crime.

Although I'm not a fan of Korn, I do love Rammstein however, to say that their fans are of low IQ is ignorant and stereotypical. I only hope in their future concerts, that Korn make an announcement beforehand on the dangers of this unnecessary violence.

did the guys who killeld him do it intentionally or just while moshing

did the guys who killeld him do it intentionally or just while moshing

did the guys who killeld him do it intentionally or just while moshing

korn is the best band ever. that fuckin idiot probabley said somthin stupid. why in the fuck would u take a prenant women and retarded child to a korn concert. that is the dumbest fuckin idea in the world.you would have to have the iq of a chimpanze to do that. FUCK everybody who is talkin shit about korn.you guys suck fuckin cock so fuck all you all. KORN IS THE SHIT BITCH

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ok so einstein and all you other numb skulls that dont think this happened in a mosh pit reread the article, teacher,:"lori" is right, quote," A 30-year-old man who was beaten in the mosh pit at the Atlanta " oh wait what?...in the mosh pit did it say?...i think it did....so who is wrong and annoying now?