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Too bad for us Jewz.

me kill the killers!

I really can't decide if this is worth going to... I'm not crazy about the killers, but something tells me this might be a fun show to be at.

I'm conflicted as well - this may come down to price in the end, I suppose.

yeah, i'm conflicted too. i don't know whether to vomit or cut myself. decisions, decisions.

dudes!
the two are not mutually exclusive!

the deciding factor i think will be whether i can even get tickets. will sell out fast i am sure.

the deciding factor i think will be whether i can even get tickets. will sell out fast i am sure.

thanks for the update on your decision-making process. fascinating.

worst discussion ever.

that was quick

it's 10 seconds after 3pm and it's already sold out.

NUTS

interestng how the pre-sale is already sold out at 3pm.

@ 3 exactly, it's already sold out? what was there 10 tickets in the presale?

at 3:00 i clicked on tickets - at 3:01 it was sold out - How is that possible?

me too

The "pre-sale" sold out in 12 seconds - literally 12 seconds.

anyone know how much tickets actually were?

scalpers obviously got all of the tickets, as per usual

not like i give a fuck, i was planning on doing the same thing.

Just got a pair. For the entire pair, it was $61 total. Not bad considering the Theater at MSG show cost about $50 a ticket.

I got two tix!! I had three windows upon, though it makes me wonder why I even cared so much to begin with. I'm barely a fan, if that.

Anyway the face value of one ticket was 25, plus 5.50 in fees.

Yay I got tickets!!!

For Utah!

Yay I got tickets!!!

For Utah!

Whatever.
You're still in Utah.
Republican stronghold

There are no mobb deep tickets on sale. Anywhere.

I can't wait for the Mobb Deep/Killers double headliner at The Annex.

any word on a "regular" onsale?

tickets on sale tomorrow via ticketweb @ noon.

More importantly - when are the Robert Pollard tickets going on sale?

http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=nyc&query=search&category=misc&search=killers&beginmonth=09&beginday=19&beginyear=2006

these tickets are $30 each. poo.

Well, you can thank the idiot 1st poster and people like that who literally make it that much easier for scalpers to get tickets..

Even more importantly - when are Weird Al Yankovic tickets going on sale?

Well, you can thank the idiot 1st poster and people like that who literally make it that much easier for scalpers to get tickets..

How can scalpers get the tix if you have to pick them up at Will Call? I don't get it.

theirs really no way to scalp for this unless you plan on going. so then you are going to have to wait in line with someone you are ripping off for them to get in with you. no tickets just a list.

Idiot first poster? I'm sure if someone wanted to get tickets, they could take the 30 seconds to register and get the presale password. More importantly, how about the assholes who created this whole damn presale load of crap to begin with? Look at us ticketless hipsters, who never really wanted tix to begin with, blogging away about not getting to see a 50 minute set by a band we think did that catchy Mr. Brite something song. I might have to run down to Hiro tonight just to keep my hipster pulse beating...albeit at a much slower rate. Yikes.

Could someone explain why the tickets on ticketweb are $5 more expensive that on the fanclub presale.

It's adds up to extra 11 for two tickets and fees. 61 for two is somewhat reasonable for a one hour set, but 72 is just extortion.

Because that's how Ticketweb makes money. Not that I like it, but that's the world we live in.

i understand charging more in fees, but you can't raise the face value of a ticket, right?

Tickets were easy to get at noon today. Even with my slow connection.

Yeah, I'm kinda shocked at how easy it was. I think ticketweb is finally able to handle the server load.

a friend got me two killers tickets for friday because i don't have a credit card - he is going to come with me with his credit card, ID, etc but he doesn't really want to see the show. do you think they will let me bring someone else? as long as he shows up. thoughts?

Still available at 12:44

The band can't even sell out webster hall in an hour. that's a little pathetic for a band that's supposedly one the biggest out there.

it is because you can't scalp these tickets - must shows sell out because of scalpers.

how is the word 'secret' in any way justifiable for a show like this?

still not sold out at 2:15 pm EST...

did they sell out the Theater at MSG?

I believe the MSG shows are all sold out, but that's because the scalpers got their mits on plenty.

It's funny; people are bidding on this show on eBay even though there are still plenty of tickets on ticketweb. I don't understand people sometimes

And the guy up there is right; it isn't selling out because the scalpers aren't duying

Anyone think of the age factor? This show is 18 and up so maybe a majority of Killers fans under 18.

anyone remember that one week two years ago, when it was actually cool to like the killers?

'twas a a simpler time back then.

I hope the above poster made his statement in the spirit of sarcasm...

That's what I hate about so many of the people in this music scene that this page represents, whatever you want to call it. They're opinion of what's good and what's cool is so completely related to the trends of the time, or the fact that now too many people like it.

How does that change the music that you once supposedly "liked"? The killers first album is great music, and if you want to bash on them now because they sold too many albums or appeared on too many magazine covers, that's just sad and pathetic, and you should be embarrased at your complete lack of convictions.

I hope the above poster made his statement in the spirit of sarcasm...

That's what I hate about so many of the people in this music scene that this page represents, whatever you want to call it. They're opinion of what's good and what's cool is so completely related to the trends of the time, or the fact that now too many people like it.

How does that change the music that you once supposedly "liked"? The killers first album is great music, and if you want to bash on them now because they sold too many albums or appeared on too many magazine covers, that's just sad and pathetic, and you should be embarrased at your complete lack of convictions.

I hope the above poster made his statement in the spirit of sarcasm...

That's what I hate about so many of the people in this music scene that this page represents, whatever you want to call it. They're opinion of what's good and what's cool is so completely related to the trends of the time, or the fact that now too many people like it.

How does that change the music that you once supposedly "liked"? The killers first album is great music, and if you want to bash on them now because they sold too many albums or appeared on too many magazine covers, that's just sad and pathetic, and you should be embarrased at your complete lack of convictions.

I hope the above poster made his statement in the spirit of sarcasm...

That's what I hate about so many of the people in this music scene that this page represents, whatever you want to call it. They're opinion of what's good and what's cool is so completely related to the trends of the time, or the fact that now too many people like it.

How does that change the music that you once supposedly "liked"? The killers first album is great music, and if you want to bash on them now because they sold too many albums or appeared on too many magazine covers, that's just sad and pathetic, and you should be embarrased at your complete lack of convictions.

Well, speaking for myself, in 2004, I thought the first four tracks on "Hot Fuss" were killer (no pun intended). For some reason, my enthusiasm for those tracks didn't translate into any desire to see them live. A little more than a year later, I found I no longer liked those tracks, probably due to life experiences that changed me as a person (don't ask). Now I've heard the first single off of their new album and it does nothing for me.

Maybe other music fans feel the same way about the new album.

That's totally respectable if your tastes and / or opinion changed for organic reasons. I'm talking about these posers that stop liking a band becasue too many people catch onto it, or for some other reason that has nothing to do with the music itself. Or who only like a band while the buzz is new. You know, the ones more into the scene that the music that makes it?

Commercial success is a big no no for indie fans. So you will always see negative comments here for the bands that either are or becoming household names.

It's also pathetic to badmouth a band for their show not selling out immediately because they sell the tickets the right way to avoid scalpers. Many people aren't aware of the show or already made other plans since the show is in two days. I will go to the show after the Cibelle set at Joe's Pub I got tickets for a long time ago. There's the Jewish holiday factor. Also a lot of people have tickets for MSG already and can't afford/don't want to pay $37 more for the same band.

If every band made tickets to their show available this way, we would be able to find tickets a lot more easily and 95% of scalping currently going on would be eliminated.

"If every band made tickets to their show available this way, we would be able to find tickets a lot more easily and 95% of scalping currently going on would be eliminated."

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If every band announced shows four days before the event and sold tickets two days before the event with a two-ticket limit, you would have a lot of empty venues.

Perhaps you would appreciate an interview screening process by the promoter or box office in order to determine whether or not the buyer is a true fan, scalper or poser?

If scalpers didn't exist shows would still continue to sell out. then who would you buy tickets from? Viva free markets!!

I know I would appreciate that! Can you draft out a proposal to ticketbastard? Thank you!

That's a great idea, let's let Ticketbastard totally decide in their excellent discretion who gets tickets and who doesn't!

Okay, fair enough. We'll need civilian oversight. Otherwise it's gonna be Dan Snyder, Bill Gates, and the ghost of Hitler with all their guests.

I did not mean every show should be announced 4 days in advance. I was referring to the will call part. A lot less shows will sell out early and tickets would be available for a while.

Of course most bands and promoters would not be happy with that. Scalping works to their advantage as well. As long as the shows sell out early, they do not care who buys the tickets. Therefore whenever a band makes their tickets will call only, it is something to be appreciated. They would be better off selling actual tickets.

Will Call works to the venue's and the ticket buyer's disadvantage. If you buy a will call ticket and can't make it to the show it's very hard, if not impossible, to transfer it to someone else. If no one uses the will call ticket, the venue is then out a customer to sell drinks, food, t-shirts, etc... to. The ticket buyer who finds he can't go is also f-cked because he can't sell, or even give away, his ticket.

We get screwed on tickets every day anyway with service fees, scalpers, etc. If tickets were will call, it would work on music fans' advantage. Shows would not sell out immediately and people can wait until they are sure they can make it before buying a ticket. We would not have to buy everything as soon as they come out and deal with selling it later.

It's a utopia anyway. Like I said will call tickets are a disadvantage to the industry. They work hand in hand with scalpers. Therefore it will never happen. Rare cases like this are things to cherish. Tom Waits used the same will call-only method on his small tour earlier in the year and it worked like a charm for true fans.

you still have to pay the "service fee" on will call tickets...it was $6 a ticket for the Killers at Webster Hall...I've found that will call ticketing often leads to massive slow moving lines to get into shows.

will call actually made the fees worse for the killers because they weren't selling any tickets at the box office so there was no way to avoid the "service fee."

On the flipside, if they were selling it at the box office, it would be sold out and scalpers would be your only option.

Finally it's sold out. Most people who wanted it must have had enough time to buy, unless you're just finding out of course.

"Tom Waits used the same will call-only method on his small tour earlier in the year and it worked like a charm for true fans."

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True, Tom Waits' will-call only mandate for premium seats did deter scalping somewhat but who won in the end? basically, no one. For every single Tom Waits show there were scalpers who said "I have one ticket come in the show with me" and the public paid premiums 5x above the shitty seats that were non will call (which were about 3x above face).

The day before the show there were dozens of fans on Tom Waits' listsrv begging for tickets from "true fans" for face value.

It would be like, say, the Yankees announce they were playing a game in Central Park and field and loge seats were will call only. People who get assed out would do whatever it takes to get the good seats. "true fans" would say give me a ticket i love the yankees. well, how much do you love the yankees? Viva free markets!!

Not to mention that the lines to get into the venues during the Tom Waits tour were huge, especially the venues that were 100% will-call.

If Lennon, Hendrix, Morrison and Cobain were resurrected and decided to play only one free show together at Webster Hall, I would have to check that no one good was playing Irving first. Webster Hall is a fucking misery.

Ticket prices better not be more than $35 for that show or all the hipsters would be complaining...

true, and there better be free water and no ticketbastard charges!...oh, and i won't pay above face for that ticket because i'm a "true fan!"

Some of you (unless it's all the same person) sound like either scalpers or individuals with a lot of disposable income who don't mind feeding the scalpers.

For any sold out show, especially for someone as big as Tom Waits who rarely has live shows, there will always be people finding out too late and crying, begging, selling their soul, etc. for a ticket. I went to Waits' Memphis and Nashville shows with eight friends. All of us were able to get tickets on Ticketmaster, which would never happen in a million years if the tickets weren't will call. I can only speak for Memphis and Nashville shows, but the lines outside the theater were not long at all. It took us less than 5 minutes to get the tickets in Nashville. In Memphis there wasn't even a line when we arrived. We picked up our tickets, got our wristbands and spent an hour drinking at a bar before heading back to the venue. It was overall one of the most pleasant experiences I had in a long time. I did not see any people begging for tickets outside, but one of my friends had an extra and he easily found someone to sell it to at the door for the same price before going to will call.

Great, glad it worked for you, but if some unforseen event which didn't allow you to attend the show arose between the time you bought your will call tickets and the time of the show you would have been s.o.l....The public generally prefers ticket entry to non-transferable will call list entry for the very reason that tickets CAN be sold or given away if you can't attend... Tickets also can be bought as a gift!

just saw on craigslist that tix are back on sale

http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=xxx&query=search&interface=ticketweb&newhps=1&search=KILLERS&x=15&y=7

sold out now

pics and setlist up on my site.

What a terrible, terrible show

was not

The show was actually pretty great... albeit short... i really hate the club curfews. No lines for over-21, seemed like a 10 minute line for U-21. In sum, I'd say that I am extremely pleased with how it turned out. This will-call only thing might just change the industry. No more sleezy ticket scalpers poaching all the tix. There are drawbacks to everything in life, but I'd rather have the inconvenience of doing will-call only than not being able to go at all!

too bad you ran home after the killers show at webster hall - when it was over they went to rockwood music hall and performed all over again for free