sweet, just we need. webster hall part deux!

maybe they'll improve things at the original.

That's actually a cool building, known by local musicians as "the music building" due to the many recording/practice studios. Also Rogue Music, great used instrument and equipment store is there. (not to be a know-it-all or anything.)

Maybe it will be a good venue despite the Webster Hall connection...

"The Rebel"? Yeesh. Their target audience must be 15. "We are so going to Rebel tonight!"

I have spent tons of time in that building.

I've played at Downtime and been there during gothic club nights. The stage is normally setup downstairs, but the capacity isn't great. Perhaps Bowery Ballroom size? Upstairs is bigger, but I can't see how the will have massize amount of people going up and down.

Tons of rehearsal studios in the building. Ultrasound has lots of boutique gear in their rooms. The Studio has crappy equipment, but nice people. Just stay away from the Molly Wee, the bar on the corner.

At one of the Pool Parties Sam Kinken of Live Nation told me about this, also that they would be turning the Gramercy Theater into a live music room. Part of their plan to go more 'vertical'. He mentioned plans another venue in Brooklyn, too.

its going to suck just like webster hall

crappy venue. the live space downstairs is about 1/3 the size of bowery ballroom. nothing to get too excited about.

I book clubs for Live Nation here in NYC. Along with Rocks Off's Jake Szufnarowski, we will be booking Rebel for the Ballingers starting in October.

About Rebel, let's clear a few things up.

-The overall capacity of the venue (2 floors, 4 rooms) is 800. The show room's capacity, however, is significantly less. We will be selling 325 tickets to each performance.
-The address of the venue is the same as the old Downtime but the show room is a brand new space created out of one of the recording studios that "dude" mentions in his post. Forget what you knew about Downtime. Rebel has a real stage, nice and high so every one can see, a great sound system and comfortable separate bar area outside of the show space.

We’re announcing our first shows this week, but here’s a peek at our extended calendar:

Oct 8 – Isis
Oct 20 – Dead To Fall / Shai Halud
Oct 21 – Supagroup / The Upper Crust
Nov 3 – CMJ / Billions Showcase feat. Pernice Brothers, Scott H. Biram, Pop Levi, My Brightest Diamond and Eleni Mandel
Nov 4 – CMJ / 31G + SAF Records Afternoon Showcase feat. Some Girls, Das Oath, Die! Die! Die!, Dmonstrations, The Chinese Stars and more
Dec 4 – Lovedrug / Brandston
Dec 9 Exene Cervenka and the Original Sinners

More to be announced very soon…

-Chris

"the live space downstairs is about 1/3 the size of bowery ballroom"

What live space have you been too? The downstairs is small, but not that small. The bar cuts off most usuable space, but I am assuming they will be renovating and coming up with a better layout.

"We will be selling 325 tickets to each performance."

There you go, only about 2/3 of Bowery's size.

I liked Downtime. It always was an underutilized space. Looking forward to some shows there.

they were in the process of renovating a pretty big space behind the area where the soundboard and equipment was kept when they had shows in the regular downstairs bar area...that might be it...

FYI, 251 W 30 st. is NOT "the music building". that is the official name of the music building, inc. which is on 8th avenue near port authority.

who cares i aplaud anyone who tries in this current climate of real estate greed and yuppie transplants jamming 311 w/noise complaints! i hope the vibrators go on late next weekend & i can still get in after the bolan tribute in the park! p.s. that radio birdman show at blender theater at gramercy worked just fine for me!