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'Illinois' & playmates @ the Playboy party, SXSW - March 15, 2007
Playboy party

I wouldn't have normally passed up the opportunity to see The Gossip and Voxtrot back-to-back (Thursday, March 15, 2007 - Kork showcase @ Emo's, SXSW), but majority rules, and in this case the majority of the group I was with at dinner that night couldn't get in to the show - so instead we found ourselves at the annual Playboy party. It was held at a TV studio-turned-party-space that was full of free food, free alcohol, free cigarettes, Playboy memorabilia, media, rock fans, and socialites. The music-loving mayor of Austin was even there.

Of course four Playboy playmates were walking around, hosting, introducting bands, and posing for pictures. They were dressed in semi-revealing bunny suits.

Ironically, Beth Ditto of the Gossip was back at Emo's showing even more skin.

OK, I exxagerated the "naked" part - Beth Ditto @ SXSW - March 15, 2007 (CRED)
Beth Ditto

You go girl. More below...

Here is the lineup of the Playboy party:

Ghostland Observatory
Monsters are Waiting
Illinois
Stars Align
Jennifer Walcott (Miss August 2001)
Pilar Lastra (Miss August 2004)
Courtney Culkin (Miss April 2005)
Qiana Chase (Miss July 2005)
Here is a picture of Monsters are Waiting...

Playboy party

This guy from Fuel was interviewing people....

Playboy party

Playboy party

Drunk girls were enjoying Illinois...

Playboy party

Playboy party

Playboy party

Playmates get down to Stars Align...

Playboy party

Playboy party

Ghostland Observatory headlined, but I missed them because I needed to get to Todd P's afterparty to not-see Spank Rock. Here's a pic of Ghostland courtesy of here.....

Playboy party

And here's a picture of Voxtrot who went on after the Gossip back at Emo's....

Voxtrot @ Emo's

Perez Hiltion was at the Playboy party too...

See the Gossip on tour....

The Gossip - 2007 Tour Dates
Apr 4 - Wonder Ballroom Portland, Oregon
Apr 6 - Bottom of the Hill San Francisco, California
Apr 7 - Troubadour Los Angeles, California
Apr 12 - Abbey Chicago, Illinois
Apr 14 - Knitting Factory New York, New York

Previously
* video - Jarvis Cocker & Beth Ditto (Gossip) @ NME awards
* The True Colors Tour - Cyndi Lauper, The Gossip, Erasure...
* Voxtrot | 2007 Tour Dates, Ramesh, etc..
* Playboy says Mercury Lounge & Cake Shop are two of America's 10 best rock clubs

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Tags: Playboy

Comments (107)

wow fame has really gone to Beth Ditto's stomach

jesus!
she was NOT that big a few years ago

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:09 PM

Fame? I have no idea who she is!

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:15 PM

anyone else think her stomach resembles a ninja turtles shell?

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:25 PM

i've been officially scarred from that picture.

Posted by myeyesareburning | March 21, 2007 3:25 PM

I hope she doesn't like crowd surfing. I'll make sure not to be too close at their Knitting Factory show.

Posted by Eduardo | March 21, 2007 3:30 PM

i love beth

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:33 PM

I'm sure she was trying to make some sort of "fat statement" by doing that, but the only thing I get out of that is an upset stomach. Sorry, it's not anything but disgusting to let yourself get that fat.

Posted by Brian | March 21, 2007 3:36 PM

what an entirely NOT subtle juxtaposition there, bv.

i guess we know where you stand on the fat chicks issue.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:39 PM

Keep it on !!!

Posted by RT | March 21, 2007 3:40 PM

As a former fat kid, I can't hate.

But DAMN. WTF?!?

Oh...and who is this girl?

Posted by Drugs Delaney | March 21, 2007 3:44 PM

what an entirely NOT subtle juxtaposition there, bv.

i guess we know where you stand on the fat chicks issue.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:45 PM

i'm all for being proud of your body, but that's going too far. it's digusting and unhealthy.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:50 PM

jesus bv. tryin to eat here. maybe a little NSFW spoiler?

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 3:51 PM

>>> i guess we know where you stand on the fat chicks issue.

huh?

Posted by brooklynvegan | March 21, 2007 3:52 PM

I give her tons of credit. I know I wouldnt be able to do that, and i'm not nearly that big.

Posted by Erin | March 21, 2007 3:59 PM

Fuck all that.
Bett Ditto is Hot!

This skinny vegan boy just loves himself a large lovely lady!

Posted by BB | March 21, 2007 4:01 PM

I give her tons of credit. I know I wouldnt be able to do that, and i'm not nearly that big.

Posted by Erin | March 21, 2007 4:01 PM

She wasn't that big a few years ago because she had a life-threatening illness, problem with her gallbladder caused major weight loss. Weight gain usually results after extreme weight LOSS - which is why diets are bullshit and don't work. Word.

I'd rather look like Beth than those fake-ass Playboy gals who always seem to look like female impersonators gone overboard. Not always a bad thing, just not my taste.

I love how self acceptance is conditional. Damn -I'm surprised at the kind of people who read bv.

Posted by A girl. | March 21, 2007 4:04 PM

the gossip were incredible that night. she worked it

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 4:10 PM

To Brian:
It's not "not anything but disgusting" to rag on people for their physical appearance, either.

I'm sure a conversation with someone as shallow as you would leave me with an upset stomach as well, and I'd rejoice in vomiting all over you.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 4:14 PM

I'd rather look like Beth than those fake-ass Playboy gals who always seem to look like female impersonators gone overboard. Not always a bad thing, just not my taste

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hahah rrrrrrright...sure you would, sure you would

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 4:32 PM

she was making no fat statement, bitch was just hot and sweaty, so she took her top off. the end.

Posted by sharpie | March 21, 2007 4:32 PM

"fake-ass playboy gals"? the women in the photos above look like they're at a healthy weight. aside from probable boob jobs, i dont see anything contestable wrong about their bodies.

and like some commenters above, i'm happy she's happy with her weight. but that's not healthy.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 4:34 PM

Ohhh... now you've gone done and hurt my wittle feelings, "anonymous."

Without getting into a long, pointless discussion with an obviously superior human being such as yourself about A) the proven health issues of letting oneself getting that obese, and B) the proven strain that clinically obese people put on the health care system (yes, it's true, sorry), I'll just say that yes, I think it's a bit foul when people let themselves get so overweight.

Big fucking deal. If that makes me shallow, so be it. I'm not judging her as a person by any means, so save your breath. I'm sure she's a great gal, but I think letting oneself get that big is a bit ridiculous.

Please, though, continue your ride on the high horse because clearly you're a much better person than I am.

Posted by Brian | March 21, 2007 4:51 PM

hm. i wonder just how different these comments would be if it was, say, Chan Marshall or Lovefoxxx who decided to perform in their underwear? i heart Beth Ditto. you're hot and sweaty at the show and want to take your shirt off, take the damn shirt off. fuck the haters.

also, to respond to the people who asked for a warning: this post is titled "Beth Ditto naked..." for a reason. as G.O.B. Bluth would say (after leaving a nasty comment, probably): COME on!

Posted by go eat a rice cake | March 21, 2007 4:57 PM

i'd do her

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 5:23 PM

"also, to respond to the people who asked for a warning: this post is titled 'Beth Ditto naked...' for a reason."

But the photo of Beth Ditto is visible on the front page because it's before the jump. On the other hand, strictly speaking, the photo is safe for work.

Posted by me | March 21, 2007 5:25 PM

Is that really necessary?????

She's a great role model for the FAT kids of america...and we have a lot of 'em!!!!!

"Look at me..I'm FAT and it's cool"

Keep your clothes on Beth.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 7:04 PM

Meanwhile, everyone ignores the fashion faux pas (gold lamé tights with cowboy boots) committed by one of the skinny chicks.

Posted by Rosie O'Donnell | March 21, 2007 7:49 PM

How many nasty-ass half-naked boys flopping around have I had to look at at like every show since I was in junior high?

Beth Ditto rocks, and fucking spare me your preening concern for her health. Do you lecture smokers, too? Gasp and comment bitchily at their unhealthiness when they're pictured on websites?

Posted by oudemia | March 21, 2007 8:16 PM

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU EAT TO LOOK LIKE THAT? HAS SHE BEEN MAINLINING BACON FAT AND CORN SYRUP? HOLY FAT FUCK.

Posted by Crosseyed Sniper | March 21, 2007 8:28 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^
and yet I'M the one getting raked through the coals.

Thanks for your concern about me, oudemia, I sincerely appreciate it. You're mistaken about my "preening concern for health", Ms. Self-Righteous.

The fucking burden people WHO CHOOSE TO BE OBESE (because that's what she is, live with it) put on our health system is fucking ridiculous and it does bother me to no end. Huh--ever read any of the hundreds of reports about obesity and the major fucking problem it is on many levels?

My comment has nothing to do with "how much she rocks" (spare me the hipster cliche verbiage, please) or what kind of person she is. Sorry if I offended you.

Posted by Brian | March 21, 2007 8:52 PM

Preen some more, my fine feathered friend.

Your public health concerns extend only so far as women's bodies. We don't see you sneering at the well-fed fellow pictured above Beth. We will never find you sneering at some pic of Lily Allen or whomever with a cigarette hanging out of her face.

You haven't offended me. I just think you're a silly hypocrite. Best of all, I'm sure you haven't offended Beth Ditto in the least. She has confidence in spades and, to wax Hallmark for a moment, that is sexiest of all.

Posted by oudemia | March 21, 2007 9:13 PM

honestly. heaven forbid a real woman decides to take her shirt off in front of people who adore and support her, and feel good about herself.

she's a perfectly smart person who, i'm sure, would make an effort to lose weight if her health depended on it. as it stands, she seems perfectly healthy, able and active to me, so i wouldn't worry about her adding to the so-called strain on the system.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 9:22 PM

There's a quote I really love, by Paul Campos, author of "The Diet Myth" (a book that really looks at the facts of our nation's war on fat and finds all the holes):

"The disgust the thin upper classes feel for the fat lower classes has nothing to do with mortality statistics and everything to do with feelings of moral superiority endgendered in thin people by the sight of fat people."

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 11:45 PM

I have no idea who Beth Ditto is, but damn, images like that should not be displayed on the front page. It's just nasty.

Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 11:46 PM

Positive body image is a good thing, and being a bit chubby is completely fine...

But this girl is not "chubby"

She is obese.

It's simply not healthy. Good for her that she can feel good about herself no matter what she looks like. Forget about the fact that it's gross, and focus on the fact that she will probably die young of obesity-related health problems.

Forget about people making fun of her, THAT is the saddest part about all of this.

Posted by matthew | March 22, 2007 12:01 AM

amen, beth brace and hannah were fuckin amazing that night!! beth is beautiful, in every way, and has more soul than all you shallow fuckers who can't think of anything better to comment on then her not conforming to your narrow perceptions of beauty. ya'll are fucking brilliant, you and the ten year old bullies on the the playground. what a bunch of fuckin intolerant assholes. seriously, just try and go to a gossip show and listen to the energy and passion with which they play and not find yourself incredibly fucking happy crazily jumping up and down celebrating EVERY moment of the gossip experience, strip downs included!

Posted by monica | March 22, 2007 12:29 AM

I just wonder how many of the asshats commenting here have the level of fitness necessary to rock through hours of sets night after night after night.

It takes a great deal of fitness to do that, regardless of body size, shape, smoking status, you know. The kind you don't get downing cheetoes in mommy's basement while typing one-handed and commenting on *womens' health".

Posted by Dr Kate | March 22, 2007 8:03 AM

The fucking burden people WHO CHOOSE TO BE OBESE (because that's what she is, live with it) put on our health system is fucking ridiculous and it does bother me to no end. Huh--ever read any of the hundreds of reports about obesity and the major fucking problem it is on many levels?

BULLSHIT

That's my professional opinion.

But I hold an Sc.D. in Epidemiology, so I guess I don't know what I'm saying.

Various levels of adiposity are ASSOCIATED with various illnesses, and the *obesity research* fools have pronounced it causal with little evidence to back them.

In other words, the diseases (type B diabeties) may CAUSE overweight, not be caused by it. Good evidence that is true, actually. FURTHERMORE there may be third factors causing both OBESITY and COMORBID CONDITIONS in effect-modified or simply confounded relationships (e.g. Asthma and immune response and obesity).

In otherwords, I think you need to stop rationalizing hate and SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE. The evidence does not support your bullshit.

Posted by Dr Kate | March 22, 2007 8:09 AM

Sure, heart attacks and cancer cause people to be fat...makes perfect sense to me.

Posted by MD | March 22, 2007 8:34 AM

Ok, I'll make it easier on you folks:

A greyhound is a greyhound.
A St. Bernard is a St.Bernard.
A chihuahua is a chihuahua.

You can starve either animal, but you will still have the same animal; pre and post dietetic changes.
You can't change a St. Bernard into a greyhound. It will never happen.

So. LEAVE BETH ALONE! She is who she is and could care less of what you think of her, and I for one appreciate her boundless talent and the amazing hot shows she puts on, and I could care less what she looks like. So what if she doens't conform into your idea of what health or beauty is? Maybe you should expand your views and accept others instead of immediately castigating them and bullying them into your narrow ideals of acceptable female beauty.

Posted by The Obstreperous Ms. J | March 22, 2007 10:46 AM

are you saying beth is her own breed?

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 11:35 AM

I think the person is saying beth ate a greyhound, st. bernard and a chihuahuau.

Burp.

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 12:01 PM

There is nothing that pisses me off more than people who say "people choose to be obese." You have no idea what you're talking about, so kindly shut up.

No one wakes up in the morning and says, "Gee, I think I'm going to become obese today." I mean really, that notion is just ridiculous.

I do not remember a time when I have ever been happy with my weight. My weight has yo-yo'd throughout my life. I was raised by "obese" parents. In junior high I was nearly anorexic and a size three. I bounced up to about an 8-10 in high school. After that, I worked at a Humane Society, and was working through lunches and frequently forgetting to eat, and went to a size 5. Through all this, I always though I was fat. Since going to college and working at a low-key data entry position, I have put on a lot of weight. I am now truly fat, (5'1" and 180)and you know what? I've never been happier. I don't have health insurance so I never go to the doctor, so I can't see how I'm being a strain on medical issues. But to be honest, just the relief of being able to walk down the street without being ogled is enough to make me wonder if I'll ever try to lose the weight.

My boyfriend comes from a skinny family, and he used to be somewhat biased against my fat family, until he got to know them, and until he lived with me. Being fat is not a choice. It's a long process that happens over a long period of time. I would say it mostly comes from being raised in a family that is not active, being raised in a family that likes good food, and from economic reasons. Honestly, I don't have enough money to eat well, or enough for a gym membership or even gym clothes.

For the people who are so upset over a beautiful fat woman showing some skin, I feel really bad for you. You're going to miss out on getting to know a lot of really great people if you dismiss obesity as being a "choice" and not giving them a chance.

Posted by Weetz | March 22, 2007 12:05 PM

If it's ok to be a little bit chubby but not obese, can you tell us exactly where that line is so I can make sure to stay on the right side of it?

Thanks!

Posted by fusskins | March 22, 2007 12:14 PM

i don't know what you all are talking about. I see that photo and think damn i wish i went to the Gossip show.

The Gossip have yet to let me down. Always dancing Always!

Posted by curt | March 22, 2007 12:24 PM

Weetz, anyone without health insurance who is not wealthy will be a strain on the taxpayer because the taxpayers are the ones who will have to pay the major medical expenses that lie in your future if you stay at or above 180lbs.

also as far as you not having any problems yet, of course -- the people who've had the problems are no longer alive to write about them, consider yourself lucky so far.

being fat is a choice, you're just making rationalizations by saying you're a victim of parents who aren't active and like good food and that you don't have enough money to be healthy.

Posted by MD | March 22, 2007 1:07 PM

fat fat fat fta ftfatf tfatf ffatfaftfatffat

skinny skinny skinny skinny skinny fat fat fat fat fat fat

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 1:25 PM

"Sure, heart attacks and cancer cause people to be fat...makes perfect sense to me."

Actually, declining cardiovascular status can lead a person to become sedentary, as can declining asthma.

FURTHERMORE BMI has very low R-squared correlation with heart disease compared to the r-squared for hypercholestrolemia (often found in thin people), hypertension (also found in thin people in solid percentages) and other better defined physiologic risk factors. In other words, weight doesn't predict well for the individual person, but blood pressure, lipid profile, etc. DO predict well, SO what can I say about this woman based on her apparent adiposity?

SHUT YER PIEHOLE - what gets printed in the tabloids as "science journalism" is sadly bad science twisted with a hint of folksy truthiness. When you consider that many GPs don't do statistics, the family doc often doesn't fare much better.

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 2:38 PM

"Sure, heart attacks and cancer cause people to be fat...makes perfect sense to me."

Oh sure - Glib culturally constructed truthisms are certainly a substitute for time spent in Countway Library. Natch.

Actually, declining cardiovascular status does lead a person to become sedentary, as can declining lung function secondary to asthma.

FURTHERMORE BMI has very low R-squared correlation with heart disease compared to the r-squared for hypercholestrolemia (often found in thin people), hypertension (also found in thin people in solid percentages) and other better defined physiologic risk factors. In other words, weight doesn't predict well for the individual person, but blood pressure, lipid profile, etc. DO predict well, SO what can I say about this woman based on her apparent adiposity?

SHUT YER PIEHOLE - what gets printed in the tabloids as "science journalism" is sadly bad science twisted with a hint of folksy truthiness. When you consider that many GPs don't do statistics, the family doc often doesn't fare much better.

Posted by Dr Kate | March 22, 2007 2:40 PM

my doctor has always advocated a healthy diet and plenty of exercise. i guess it turns out he's just a wackjob.

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 3:32 PM

psst- dr. kate is a fatty!

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 3:38 PM

Wow, there must be a conspiracy between the health food, weight loss, fitness equipment and medical industries to get us to lose weight when we don't need to! Thanks Dr. Kate, I'm calling McDonalds now to order a supersized meal delivered to me while I lay on my couch. I wish I had this knowledge years ago, I'd be at least 300lbs by now!

Posted by MD | March 22, 2007 3:55 PM

"my doctor has always advocated a healthy diet and plenty of exercise. i guess it turns out he's just a wackjob. "

No. He's right. Healthy diet and exercise will help you prevent disease - they just don't necessarily make you thin. There is a substantial body of research on "fit fats", people with substantial bodies who are very active and eat well and still classify as overweight and obese. Guess what? They don't get sick either - in fact, they fare better than thin people who do not exercise.

HOWEVER if he told you that losing weight would solve all your health problems? Wackjob. If he said you would never get heart disease or other chronic illnesses just because you are thin? Wackjob. If he only weighed you at each visit but didn't take blood pressure, cotinine, or blood lipid measurements? Wackjob.

Posted by Dr Kate | March 22, 2007 4:01 PM

If your diet is low enough in calories and your exercise sufficient to burn more than your calorie intake you have to lose weight. If you burn more calories than you take in you WILL lose weight. Elementary, my dear Dr. Kate.

Posted by duh | March 22, 2007 4:07 PM

Not necessarily, duh. You are equating healthy-diet with calorically deficient diet. Not the same. Furthermore, some people don't lose weight past a certain point if they are eating a healthy diet because they just don't.

As for me, well, my blood pressure is 105/60, resting pulse 58, and my doctor put a sticky saying "eat more bacon" on my cholesterol report because he was jealous of the low end of ideal range levels for all components. I walk my kids 1km to their school and then either walk another 1/2 km to a train and walk 1 km to work if it is icy, or bike the remaining 10km in 30-35 minutes if it is not. I don't smoke and drink moderately.

Explain to me why my weight or body shape has anything to do with 1)my health or 2)your business?

Posted by Dr Kate | March 22, 2007 4:19 PM

No, I'm saying a diet is not calorie-deficient if a person is overweight and still gaining weight.

I don't really care what you look like. However, it's commonly accepted in the medical community that excessive weight is related to poorer health, whether you choose to believe it or not.

Yes, there is a chance you might be right and just about everyone else wrong about this, but I'll take my medical advice from my doctor rather than a blog on this one. Thanks anyway.

Posted by duh | March 22, 2007 4:32 PM

umm...can i just say...dr. kate kicks ass! :)

Posted by monica | March 22, 2007 4:35 PM

"it's commonly accepted in the medical community that excessive weight is related to poorer health, whether you choose to believe it or not."

Oh really. And what part of the medical community are you in?

I'm in public health. Where you see "conventional wisdom = truth" or consensus, I see both healthy roiling dissent and controversy. I also see attempts to get the larger picture of whether weight is an independent risk factor, a proxy variable for a suite of unenumerated risk factors, or an effect modifier of activity in prediction of long-term health.

And what I see on this thread is a lame attempt to cast a popular asthetic as a health issue, so a woman and all women can be beat into submission with it. Mysogyny is a public health risk, too.

Posted by Dr Kate | March 22, 2007 4:40 PM

dr. kate, it seems to me you're confusing merely being overweight with gross obesity.

also, do you want us all to be impressed that you walk your kids a couple of blocks a day to school. the exercise you describe, hardly qualifies as a workout.

there is huge problem in this country with obesity, which is going to cost the country billions and kill needless millions, and you're response to it seems to merely be...whats wrong with being fat?

irregardless of body issues, you seem to take offense to the very notion of working out and eating healthier.

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 4:54 PM

To the contrary, I personally find overweight women sexy, I just don't believe being fat is healthy. You are the one who is now attempting to hijack this thread into a "mysogyny" issue as you misspelled it.

Posted by duh | March 22, 2007 4:55 PM

Sure, I'll take medical advice from someone I don't know who has nothing better to do than post comments at BV all day.

Posted by notfat | March 22, 2007 9:16 PM

Is America obsessed with this shit or what?

Boring!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 10:27 PM

The reason the sexist pigs don't understand and probably never will is because they believe that men have the right to judge a female:
first, on the basis of how sexually attractive she tries to be for his viewing pleasure, and secondly (if he even makes it to this point once the first has occured), for whatever else she does and who she is as an entire human being.

The reason women aren't expected to make fun of that beer-guzzling fat pig in the tighty whiteys pictured in another entry is not because the male-perpetuated myth of "men being more visual" is true (it merely acts as a means of protecting his entitlement to degrade women through objectification), but because women have experienced the culturally-sanctioned degradation of their gender since they were children, and have a learned helplessness when it comes to sexists like you. They are intelligent and humane enough not to return the favor. Oh, and the cultural ritual of sexistly labelling women as whores when they relate to men on a soley sexual basis sure is a deterrent, too!

Posted by K.A. | March 22, 2007 11:43 PM

So, just to clarify for those guys who clearly aren't very bright: her job isn't primarily to give you an erection, and your disdain for women who think otherwise, yes, means you are SEXIST.

Posted by K.A. | March 22, 2007 11:48 PM

so you're saying men judge women but women never judge men....ha!

Posted by Anonymous | March 23, 2007 1:08 AM

Beth is hot!

Posted by Tanya Young | March 23, 2007 3:04 AM

"The reason the sexist pigs don't understand and probably never will is because they believe that men have the right to judge a female"

[drivel snipped]

If you don't think that women aren't judging other women at every turn, I've got a subscription to Ms. Magazine to sell you.

No, seriously. It's $45 a year and it's such a bargain. Can I interest you in our 2008 Penis Envy Pin-Up Calendar at a special half-price offer when you subscribe to Ms.?

Posted by Crosseyed Sniper | March 23, 2007 3:05 AM

"I love how self acceptance is conditional. Damn -I'm surprised at the kind of people who read bv."

me too,
I thought indie rock was about punks and acceptance. and do what you feel/want
but I forgot Nirvana opened the door to a bunch of frat kids who wouldn't look out of place in "Borat"

BV you're starting to worry me

Posted by Jack | March 23, 2007 6:12 AM

"I love how self acceptance is conditional. Damn -I'm surprised at the kind of people who read bv."

me too,
I thought indie rock was about punks and acceptance. and do what you feel/want
but I forgot Nirvana opened the door to a bunch of frat kids who wouldn't look out of place in "Borat"

BV you're starting to worry me

Posted by Jack | March 23, 2007 6:14 AM


"'The reason the sexist pigs don't understand and probably never will is because they believe that men have the right to judge a female'

[drivel snipped]

If you don't think that women aren't judging other women at every turn, I've got a subscription to Ms. Magazine to sell you."

I like how the "drivel" that was snipped was the perfectly good points that you didn't want to bother arguing with because they were, well, good, honest points. But, hey, go head and call it drivel to be condescending without the valid reasons to back it up.

I also love that even though the attacks on this board are from males and the defenses from females, you act like I'm selectively attacking men instead of women. I also love that your distorted lie, I mean viewpoint, is used as a justification for the objectification.

Posted by K.A. | March 24, 2007 8:30 AM

holy shit, beth ditto is awesome. I am in no way attracted to fat girls and "fat activists" just get on my nerves but I have to admit that that was a pretty amazing move to pull. Like, punk rock man. just the 500 comments on this page can attest to the fact of, whether intended or not, that was a bold fucking statement to make.

...and The Gossip are awesome.

Posted by Ben B | March 24, 2007 5:34 PM

K.A., it's okay to cry.

Posted by Crosseyed Sniper | March 24, 2007 6:50 PM

Those Playboy girls are gorgeous! Note to all women reading this note: THAT is how women should look like.

Posted by Anonymous | March 24, 2007 6:51 PM

Ok the fact that someone just said that the playboy women are how women are "supposed to look" is sick. There is no way women are supposed to look, they are supposed to look like the way their bodies are there shouldn't be anyon trying to look like something else. Beth Ditto may be overweight but if that's what her body does that's what it does, if that was some fat dude in the picture no one would have said a damn thing about him keeping his shirt on.

Posted by Ash | March 24, 2007 11:09 PM

wow bv, you innocently put some playboy girls in your post and all this feminist hostility pours out...even the medical discussion about obesity gets turned into a misogyny issue by a fanatic.

Posted by Anonymous | March 24, 2007 11:40 PM

"if that was some fat dude in the picture no one would have said a damn thing about him keeping his shirt on."

No way! I'm put off even when I see Homer Simpson in nothing but tighty whities!

Getting back to how The Gossip are supposedly awesome: I've heard one song of theirs, "Standing in the Way of Control." It does nothing for me and does not make me the least bit interested in hearing more of their music.

Posted by Waldo | March 26, 2007 7:14 PM

Ash - your inability to ignore even the most obvious of verbal prods is astounding.

Posted by kde | March 27, 2007 1:00 PM

only in America, the only country I can think of where obesity can be a product of poverty, would we try to turn obesity into some sort of self-empowerment symbol. Attacking people for being concerned about this young woman's really really excessive weight, especially when most of them are not trying to be mean about it, is completely wrong-headed. But what are we as Americans if not for our misguided, pathological self-righteousness?

Posted by someone | March 27, 2007 4:15 PM

im lazy, smoke, drink, eat junk food, and dont exercise. and im not obese! yay matabolism!

Posted by Anonymous | March 27, 2007 11:08 PM

bottom line is it's unhealthy for men or women to be obese....if you can't say that without being labeled a misogynist it's a sad day for free speech and a symptom of being so concerned with being politically correct that you can't state the obvious.

to claim that being fat is healthy just to try to counter societal pressure for women to be thin is shameful.

Posted by Anonymous | March 27, 2007 11:58 PM

The sad thing about all of this is that if Beth Ditto were standing in a room with those who posted negative comments about her actions and/or weight, the words coming out of their mouths would be nowhere near what they are typing in this blog. It’s sad what people will say under the protection of anonymity… It just goes to show what a pathetic group humans can sometimes be.

Posted by scott | March 29, 2007 6:08 PM

Isn't the whole point of blogs/blog comments (and free speech for that matter) to be able to give a truthful opinion without fear of retaliation?...there is no point telling Beth she's obese in person, I think she knows it.

Posted by blogger | March 29, 2007 6:20 PM

yes, obviously. There is also no point in doing it on the web... I was merely pointing out the obvious fact that some people choose to feed and espouse their own discriminatory beliefs (most of the time without actually thinking them through) under the cover of anonymity (via blogs/the web). When it comes down to an actual confrontation (one involving real people in real time), they will more than likely stay quiet and restrain themselves or even rethink their own opinions rather than ignorantly shooting off their mouths and risking actual accountability. In regards to freedom of speech, I suppose an attack based on fear and ignorance would not warrant any form of retaliation, right?

Posted by scott | March 29, 2007 9:48 PM

Yes, the "problem" with freedom of speech is that it gives anyone the opportunity to espouse hate and the ability for those who think like him/her to join in. The web provides a medium for for any such individual to be heard.

Nonetheless, the web also provides the opportunity for more rational voices to be heard and the opportunity for an individual to listen to all sides of an argument before making up his/her mind.

Posted by Anonymous | March 29, 2007 10:08 PM

I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SCOTT, K.A., ASH, TANYA YOUNG, DR KATE AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT HAS POSTED POSITIVE COMMENTS ABOUT BETH. BEING LARGE DOESN'T MEAN YOU ARE UNHEALTHY. BETH OBVIOUSLY (HAVING TO DO THE SORT OF SHOWS SHE DOES NIGHT AFTER NIGHT) IS MORE HEALTHY THAN MOST OF YOU JUDGEMENTAL, SHALLOW PRICKS WHO ARE POSTING NEGATIVE MESSAGES ABOUT HER! REGARDLESS OF THE "HEALTH ISSUES" WHICH HAS BEEN POSTED ABOUT HER, I WOULD MUCH RATHER GO OUT WITH A LARGER FEMALE THAT HAS AS MUCH SELF CONFIDENCE AS BETH DOES THAN ANY "NORMAL" SIZED GIRL ANY DAY!

Posted by ANDY TYLER | April 1, 2007 12:51 PM

A "normal" size or even below "normal" size girl can have just as much if not more self confidence than beth! While I don't deny that beth is a very talented musician, I'd prefer to go out with a "normal" size self confident girl, but to each their own!

Being very obese is by defintion unhealthy according to my doctor, but to each their own medical opinion as well!

Posted by hulloooooo | April 1, 2007 1:09 PM

MSG TO HULLOOOOOO. ALTHOUGH I WOULD AGREE THAT VERY OBESE, INACTIVE PEOPLE ARE UNHEALTHY, YOU CAN ALSO HAVE LARGE PEOPLE THAT ARE PERFECTLY HEALTHY AND ACTIVE!

Posted by ANDY TYLER | April 1, 2007 2:36 PM

I love her. She's so bad ass and without women like her as a role model I would totally hate myself because of people like these posters. & I'm not even overweight.

Posted by Tasha | April 6, 2007 9:40 PM

I'm a fat woman. I'm way fucking hotter than those playboy gals. I have a husband who loves me, a nice home, 2 kids and I excercise religiously everyday for at least 45 minutes. And I don't care what anyone else thinks about the way I look. I think Nicole Richie is disgusting. Should we talk about the cost of all the young girls with deadly eating disorders? Is starving yourself and making yourself barf 10 times a day more appealing? Is Hollywood setting the standard for how people should look? Guess that's what some of you would prefer. I'm not saying morbid obesity is healthy. But I think if you are going to judge people for their habits and appearance, the other end of the spectrum should be just as displeasing to you...

Posted by pinkopaque77 | April 8, 2007 10:59 PM

You can like her self confidence without liking her weight. It's not healthy to be too skinny or too fat.

Posted by dr.p | April 9, 2007 12:21 AM

all these fat jokes make you people sound like 4th graders. absolutely LAME. i think the reason for the vitriol is fear.

Posted by bozsqua | April 11, 2007 3:13 PM

If every women looked like those Playboy girls, there will be no wars on this earth.

Posted by Anonymous | April 11, 2007 3:20 PM

I think Beth Ditto is beautiful in every way. Current fashion has led to a cycle of hate. Not everyone should be slim, just as not everyone should be large. Years ago, before men got all hung up in their fragile egos, men (like me) preferred curvaceous women. Now that men have have been emasculated by women's lib, they mostly go for slim women, and say that its healthy women that attract them. Its a lie. Its the fact that larger women intimidate men, and the thought of being a failure with someone who looks stronger than they do, needs to be rationalised as the woman's fault for being too big. This is sick. I'm male and I love a woman who's big and strong, and also a woman who's slim but shapely. So to all of you haters, one day you'll fall down a manhole, or a large motorcycle will fall on your leg, and someone like Beth Ditto will save your sorry hating arse (I'm English). You haters just can't admit that its fear that drives you, not imagery. Leave Beth alone, or praise her, but if you've got nothing nice to say, then why say anything at all?

Posted by AyAy | April 11, 2007 7:32 PM

One more thing.....Since time began, large women were the most valued, and many statues and pantings were made of them. Slim women were pitied. They're only valued now by the type of man that needs to feel like Tarzan to his demure Jane. Large isn't better, but it used to be, the whole world over. Don't believe me, check out history and archaeolgy.

Posted by AyAy | April 11, 2007 7:37 PM

While it is true that it used to be a status symbol to be a large woman, the reason was that only wealthy women could afford to be so. Food wasn't nearly as affordable as it is now days and junk food wasn't readily available. Also, transportation (other than walking) wasn't readily available to the masses and only wealthy women could afford to lay around the house all day and get fat. That's also the reason it used to be a status symbol to be pale rather than tanned.

Times have definitely changed.

Posted by soc.prof. | April 11, 2007 7:51 PM

In this day and age of AMERICAN IDOL and never-too-thin musicians, Beth is a true rock and roll rebel for being fat, and not being ashamed of it. Being fat AND in rock and roll AND being in your face about it is refreshing.

Posted by russ | April 19, 2007 6:26 AM

Cool, buncha sexist pricks were here.

Posted by alalala | April 20, 2007 5:31 PM

oi you lot out there taking the mickey shut ur face!!! beth i think ur brill and fab!!! show your real womanly figure girl!!!! ur the BEST

Posted by jen | August 28, 2007 6:14 PM

oi you lot out there taking the mickey shut ur face!!! beth i think ur brill and fab!!! show your real womanly figure girl!!!! ur the BEST

Posted by jen | August 28, 2007 6:16 PM

I'd just like to say that I went to high school with Beth. She's always been a "fat girl" as a matter of fact that was her nickname in school. She's a wonderful person whom is very outspoken. I'm glad to see that she has finally made it to where she wanted to be. I'm proud of her. As for the picture, I'm a little surprised by it. I never expected to see her in her bra and panties, but that's Beth. She's proud of herself and her body and has no complaints. So why should everyone else care. I'm a small girl and people down me all the time. I don't have an eating problem. I'm just small and disabled. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but before you make a comment on someone's physical appearance. Find out if they have other physical problems for that reason too. So more power to you girl. Much love!!!

Posted by Jess | September 12, 2007 5:13 PM

please be a better role model.
obesity causes major health problems.

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Posted by 8=D | June 12, 2008 11:09 AM

I just like the way Beth shows that she is a beautiful woman. I just like to hold aroud her to show what I feel for her. Keep on what you are doing Beth!

Posted by Blomberg | February 18, 2009 8:08 PM

What is your opinion towards Beth Ditto from the punk ban the Gossip? I think she is quite a nature girl; she does not try cover up anything about herself, neither her weight nor her sexual preference. She does not care about others’ attitude. It is what punks do and what they print on their rubber wristbands. And I think this is what we are lack of nowadays.
In this society where we live in, we have to care about others’ opinions; sometimes we just care about them too much. We lose weight no because of ourselves, but for others, no one in this society would think the woman with 200 pounds weight charming or sexy. So we have to do exercises, we have to eat less and we have to do all the things that could help us to lose weight. Also we have to choose clothes for others. To me, I think the cotton T-shirt, pants and sneakers or slippers are the most comfortable clothes in this world, if I could I would like to wear them all day long without any cosmetics on my face. But the fact is any girl wear such clothes or without making up would be considered as a lazy girl or at least an untidy girl. The women in this society should be slim, well dressed, gentle, and elegant and so on, there are too many rules for them. And for men, there are also lots of standards there. Otherwise, they would not be considered as the charming one.
It could be a burden to us. Sometime I wish I could be Beth Ditto and take no care of the attitude of the people around me. I wish I could run after my dream, to have a lazy life. But every time I always found it is easy to say and hard to do. There are too many things in my life need my care.

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