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Posted in industry | music on March 21, 2007
NY Scalping laws are expiring soon, may change

NY scalping laws are expiring soon
"....Under a law that expires in June, licensed ticket resellers may charge up to 45 percent above the face value of tickets for events at large arenas. But for places with fewer than 6,000 seats, including most Broadway theaters, those brokers are limited to no more than 20 percent, or $5 over face value, whichever is greater.....
....Mr. Schoenfeld said that the effect of the current law 'has been to penalize primary ticket sellers (who are not currently allowed to resell via auction sites, etc.) while rewarding the secondary marketplace, much of which is unregulated.' That problem could be turned into a solution, he said, 'by allowing authorized auction sites for ticket resale' that would provide additional consumer protections, like refunds for cancellations....." [NY Times]
Arkansas is also reconsidering their scalping laws.
Posted on March 21, 2007 6:16 PM
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Unfortunately, with new law or not, no one pays attention.
Posted by Eduardo | March 21, 2007 6:48 PM
Wow, this website notoriously attracts hundreds of anti-scalper bitching. Now you post something that directly addresses the situation and you've got two comments. Why am I not surprised; hipsters have no fucking conviction. Lazy douches
Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 8:19 PM
I like um this article
Posted by SCALPER JOE | March 21, 2007 10:23 PM
ny scalping laws dont mean shit anyways so any change really doesnt make a fucking difference. scalpers will just sell ny event tickets out of state anyway. the only way to truly eliminate the problem of scalping is to make illegal in the country which would never happen.
Posted by Anonymous | March 21, 2007 11:17 PM
i like to swear
Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 12:33 AM
i like to swear
Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 12:33 AM
Laws regulating scalping are anticapitalistic. If you want to sell something you own you should be able to charge whatever you want. Are they going to regulate how much you can sell your condo for next?
Posted by adamsmith | March 22, 2007 12:58 AM
Dude! You have a condo? ... that's awesome!
Posted by froggy | March 22, 2007 3:04 AM
i was walking past webster the night sonic youth was in town a couple of months ago. two boys out of the ghetto came up to make and asked, "dude. sonk yout? tickets? sonk yout? front row center for the yout!" i kept walking.
Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 6:21 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 7:28 AM
Here is the key quote in all this:
"Ticket brokers and others — including Gov. Eliot Spitzer — have pushed to get rid of the limits and allow market forces to set prices in the so-called secondary ticket market, so long as the brokers are obtaining tickets legally. "
I believe scalping should be legal as long as the method of obtaning them is level for all. If I pull great seats on ticketmaster and someone really wants to pay $$ for them, then why not let the free market dictate. Hoeever,the problem is if brokers and scalpers get preferential treatment in the acquisition of these tickets on the primary market.
Posted by Loop | March 22, 2007 8:53 AM
SONK YOUT
SONK YOUT
Posted by c | March 22, 2007 9:43 AM
Couldn’t agree more with Loop.
There is nothing wrong with a free market for tickets obtained through the normal channels, I have a huge problem with the siphoning of tickets directly from the box office/ticketmaster system into scalpers hands. There should be HUGE penalties & jail time for that.
If someone didn’t make the effort to buy tickets for a show or game when they went on sale and the event is now sold out, those tickets should carry a premium if I want to sell them. Going to a show or game is not an entitlement.
Let the market dictate, supply and demand will sort things out. It is a proven fact that when scalping is legalized in a state, prices go down.
Capping the price of tickets is like telling a store that they can only sell an item for few bucks more than what they paid for it. It makes no sense.
Posted by Bob A Booey | March 22, 2007 10:40 AM
stop acting like concert tickets are like candy bars. not the same thing. all this market forces stuff you guys are talking about is elementary bullshit; tthe fact that you you took econ for a semester in college makes neither you knowledgeable on the subject nor your argument legitimate.
Posted by voice of reason? | March 22, 2007 2:20 PM
you're all stupid. not every product is the same. don't act like we live in a completely free capitalist system and apply the same basic principle to everything. the fact that you took econ for a semester in college doesn't make you knowledgeable or your argument legitimate. so please, shut up.
Posted by Anonymous | March 22, 2007 2:23 PM
In resopnse to those eloquent arguments by "voice of reason?" and "Anonymous", I ask you.
Do you believe that people should be allowed to sell things like baseball cards above the value they were sold originally or should Topps try to shut down the secondary market for that as well?
My concern is why should concert tickets be treated differently. If all have equal access to the original purchase, then what is the big deal if someone out there wants to go so bad they offer a little more for it? Nobody really loses. Those that wanted to go to the show either got tickets or missed out and once the secondary market sale is done, the situation remains the same: Those that want to go to the show either got tickets or missed out.
Your complaints should be geared towards that initial allocation of tickets which seem to end up in scalpers hands all too often and not the market afterwards because if that first sale process is fixed, the secondary market world beautifully.
Also, keep in mind. In a secondary market, if you want to go to a show that does not really have much demand, you would probably be able to get tickets at below cost.
Posted by Loop | March 22, 2007 4:28 PM
^^^ as per tonight's Decemberists concert, or the Shins show a few weeks back at MSG.
Posted by drewo | March 22, 2007 4:38 PM
Yes, thank God there are a lot of stupid scalpers out there who overbuy tickets to shows that don't have much demand apart from the scalpers themselves! I hope they don't make selling tickets below face illegal too!
Posted by adamsmith | March 22, 2007 4:48 PM
me an me homeyz waz chillin by webster hall the other night - go figure that lil dude done have a hall named after hizzelf - and me and me homey was trying to git rid of some primo tixets. we waz like "dude. sonk yout? tickets? sonk yout? front row center for the yout!" and these too good for da hood folks just walk on by. waz up wid dat? cant a brudda make a dolla dolla?
Posted by Ghetto Brother | March 22, 2007 8:24 PM
hey, why shouldn't webster have a hall if whatchutalkinbout willis can have a bridge?
Posted by arnold | March 22, 2007 9:13 PM
speaking of which, anyone have luck getting Bjork tickets?
Posted by Anonymous | March 23, 2007 1:17 AM
I'd like the secondary market in tickets to be poor so that I can pick up good tickets outside the events the night of the show from some scumbag broaker who bought too many.
Posted by jed | March 25, 2007 10:51 PM
I'd like the secondary market in tickets to be poor so that I can pick up good tickets outside the events the night of the show for face or less from some scumbag broaker who bought too many.
Posted by jed | March 25, 2007 10:52 PM
I'd like the secondary market in tickets to be poor so that I can pick up good tickets outside the events the night of the show for face or less from some scumbag broker who bought too many.
Posted by jed | March 25, 2007 10:52 PM
Can You explain this to me?
Jones Beach is on NY State Property
subject to NY state laws.
Scalping of tickets is illegal in NY..
But Jones beaches own website sends you to a scalper for tickets?
How can that be?
Posted by wishuwerhere | April 19, 2007 6:27 PM