Busy P says NYC doesn't dance

did these guys play proper sets that night?
i rolled in late hoping to catch some serious sounds and got blasted with an un-subtle dose of tone loc and nirvana, the volume being raised and lowered on a whim, the sound getting knocked out, and a generally chaotic scene up at the turntables with every member of the banger crew taking turns to throw cds on without much thought as to what track preceded or followed.
wasn't much of an experience.

Busy P is right!

I was at that Yo Yo NYC jumpoff last night and the ratio of dancing people to people standing around and/or taking pictures was insane. People in this don't dance like in other cities. Not by a long shot. That has to be amongst my top gripes about living here. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

"Maybe you need to learn how to play better music that makes people want to dance. We won't just dance to anything you know!"
i hope thats a joke otherwise thats a pretty dumb thing to say. why would anyone go to see ed banger if you didn't like their music in the first place?

Busy P is right!

I was at that Yo Yo NYC jumpoff last night and the ratio of dancing people to people standing around and/or taking pictures was insane. People in this don't dance like in other cities. Not by a long shot. That has to be amongst my top gripes about living here. Anyone who says otherwise is full of it.

whoa, beev laid the smack down... :)

however, i will say two things about last night (in defense of the people who WERE trying to dance):

1) uh, DJ Seb could you work on your transitions so that there aren't long breaks between songs?

2) Lily Allen is a mediocre performer (no personal disrespect meant, I'm sure she's a great gal) and an even worse DJ. Playing the top 20 most recognizable dancehall hits back to back does not a DJ make.

If they could get that stuff together maybe the percentage of people dancing woulg go up to like 20-25% instead of the (usual) meager 10%.

the set was definetly self-indulgent. i'm tired of dj's trying to show off how cool they are, rather than trying to entertain their audience. more than anything, that's why the night ultimately failed. (and yes, i'm a huge fan of practically anything ed bangers. but something just didnt connect that night)

"i hope thats a joke otherwise thats a pretty dumb thing to say. why would anyone go to see ed banger if you didn't like their music in the first place?"

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I think it was a joke with some truth. Like the first poster said, "every member of the banger crew taking turns to throw cds on without much thought as to what track preceded or followed."

I understand his disappointment. There are tons of people in NY who love to dance, but there are just as many who are impossible to move. Yes, sometimes you just want to enjoy the music, but other times, music is made for dancing. It killed me to see an amazing Slits performance at Syrup Room last year and be surrounded by non-dancers. Ari Up was on stage giving it her all and having a blast while kids half her age just stood there like they were looking at a freakin museum exhibit. Lame! If you're a human being with two legs, you should be able to dance every now and again. We won't laugh at you. Loosen up!

I was underwhelmed that night as well. I paid to see Justice, Mehdi, etc as i like THEIR music. If i would have known that it was all on stage spinning a mix of so-so music (minus their own) i wouldnt have went. They played fuckin C&C Music Factory that night...should i dance to that????

I saw Busy P and Mehdi got added to Coachella. Here's hoping that they dont hijack Justice's set as i really think that Justice is Ed Banger...the rest are just filler.

That said, maybe their set sucked. Hiro definitely does. Why do people play there? It's in Midtown! Gross!

people were dancing that night, just not to his music. the presets totally rocked that night.

Even though Busy P is right, he still does suck.

Yawn... Busy P, you nailed "the slacker cool guy look." Kudos.

NY'ers used to know how to dance back in the rave days, but somehow forgot how to when they moved to billyburg and started listening to indie music. Yea, didn't help that Giuliani came along. Seriously enforcing caberet laws and yes, better at curbing drugs at the clubs....

.... but honestly, Busy P was the weakest link in the whole Ed Banger crew!!!!! SebaastiAn was/is the best out of all of them and he's got records to prove it. Mehdi is great too cause he's got the most experience producing french hip hop for the last 15 years or so... Justice was ok, a little disappointed... but Busy P, boy, I felt bad that people just can't get into the stuff he was playing... It wasn't good..... And you can defnitely tell while you were there....

People moved to Williamsburg and other parts of Brooklyn because Manhattan priced everyone out of its borough. The indie rock aesthetic began in the 80s, it didn't start with Williamsburg. This was not a rave, it was a concert in Midtown. Yes it sucks that time just doesn't freeze but what are you going to do? And to the another poster, if the lack of people dancing is the one thing you hate most about this city (as opposed to say the ridiculous cost of living), I'd say you're doing pretty well.

Yes, time fon't stand still. And it's better that way anyway....

However, the reason why people don't dance (besides Busy P just doesn't rock) is that they are as you said "concert"-goers. I'm sick and tired of people going to listen to dance music and just standing in front of the dj watching him/her spin.

1) dj's are boring to watch (unless their drop dead gorgeous)
2) Turn around and dance with your friends and have a good time.

I wish for a day when dance rock shows are less of a concert and more of a dancing experience (whatever you call it). Otherwise, stop making indie dance, dance rock, whatever you call it....

Is that bez from happy mondays with a tache and wig?

i feel what busy's saying, when i saw diplo just a few weeks ago it was a real disappointment how little a lot of the people there were moving. if you accidentally bumped in to someone they got real uppity, and some girl told me to get out of her way because she couldn't see diplo. that's just not the attitude you can have at a show, but i think it's the attitude a lot of people do have which kind of ruins it for the people who actually want to move and don't mind bumping in to eachother.

they dont. he's right.

im moving to spain, stay out

people in nyc stopped dancing for some reason. it's probably a trend of some kind. but i don't understand why this upsets people so much. you can dance if you want to. no one is stopping you. and if you're a performer you should probably accept that not everyone is going to react to you the way you would react to them. i mean, lots of people have always preferred listening to music to dancing. roll with it. sometimes people dance because the music isn't so interesting. it passes the time faster.

the people writing here are the ones probably standing there and observing everyone else. when i go to a show, i go for the music and my friends, i could care less if anyone else was dancing or not. obviously, a show is better when the entire crowd is bonkers, ala soulwax at studio b, but if you are into it and wanna move, who cares if anyone else is

plenty of people dance in NYC, I would even bet its one of the biggest dance populations in the world. Its just that the hipster crowd is not that crowd although they will dance sometimes :p

I thought only Torontonians didn't dance at concerts.

This dude is right, people don't party anymore.

But what's this? A Rad Company Party, you say? Plus, you're probably gonna want drugs and who has those numbers!? You guessed it. And DJ EATYET (RadCo's premiere (i.e. only DJ- e.g. suprise. it's me!) is DJing.
Let's see Filter top that - p.s. I love Filter.

Tomorrow, Friday the 13th near the old Domino Sugar Factory
49 s. 2nd , Brooklyn - 10AM till brunch - Apeshit, Sisters, Vaz, Monkeybot are the bands.
2 Lofts - One for bands,
one for dancing and beer service.

Don't be a superstitious ninny , black cats welcome to rule.

Peace
D.

I think the problem is you've got to stop calling the people in NY these days New Yorkers. It just isn't true....

The space where people used to dance is now full of people taking out-of-focus digital photographs on various devices. Banning cameras from venues would be a good start. It might not bring back the dancing, but at least it would make the concert going experience a little less infuriating.

"Nobody's coming undone...

Everyone here's afraid of fun..."

i wasn't there but this guy just looks self indulgent jackass.

"I think the problem is you've got to stop calling the people in NY these days New Yorkers. It just isn't true...."

Oh boy, here we go again...

no one dances because the crowds are usually filled with tools who paid their way to get in.

everyone hangs around and takes pictures of each other to put on their myspace pages to say 'they were there.'

"I think the problem is you've got to stop calling the people in NY these days New Yorkers. It just isn't true...."

I love how people think this whole "It's not like the old days" thing is unique to NYC. People in most "cool" cities almost always drudge up the past to point out how much cooler it was before we got here. People in SF complain about the exact same shit that people here complain about: The city is too gentrified, the cool bars are gone, it's too expensive, all the good days are in the past, etc. Same with people in Austin, hence the whole "Keep Austin weird" mantra. There's still a ton of amazing stuff going on here, it's just that after Giuliani a lot of it moved to lofts and art spaces, etc. That's fine by me. Though he isn't booking dance acts, it's nice to have people like Todd P around who make a noble effort to keep this city cool rather than complain that he wasn't here during the Factory days hanging out with Lou Reed.

I’m surprised by the comments here. I was at the Toronto show and it was one of the best DJ sets I’ve ever seen. The sound was good and the back to back to back to back DJing was chaotic, but cohesive. The floor was too crowded for much proper dancing, but there was alarming amount of pogoing up and down.
I’ve seen Justice DJ alone and they were good. The full group was even better. Ed Banger fans should probably give them another chance.

Klaxons on US audiences:

"It's not like the UK where everyone kind of collectively decides to lose their minds after the first song," Righton admitted. "Here it takes two or three songs to get people into it and then you win them over, but every gig's been quite incredible, and people have responded really well. We were told that American crowds are subdued, but for us they've been insane."

http://www.nme.com/news/klaxons/27686

that thing on his face....is that the "dirty sanchez" i've been hearing so much about?

"I think the problem is you've got to stop calling the people in NY these days New Yorkers. It just isn't true...."

The truth. Square-ass middle Americans now rule New York.

I'm so sick of this shit. I've been at countless shows in the city where people dance their ass off. Blaming the audience is beyond lame. The truth is, these out of towners want nothing more than to be the hit of new york, and when they come into town and aren't amazing, new yorkers shrug. That's WHY its new york! And thats WHY they want to be hot shit here. Because we are demanding. And no one is going to say, "Well, I guess my shit does stink after all."

Some people are just too insecure to do anything but go out and observe everybody else's good time. It's so exciting when there's a healthy circuit of energy between the performers and the audience. If someone's on stage dancing, it makes me cringe to see everbody watching them like a they're a trained monkey. It must be really hard to be in that position. I wish people would dance, but some people just think they're too cool- or at least they want everyone else to think so.

A) $10 Hiro drinks. The pregame buzz can't last all night. The proponents of the flask are totally right.

B) I agree with the commenter who criticized the playlists. DJs: wow me with something brand new OR out of the blue. But don't play the same stuff each week.

There's a lot of talent in Ed Banger. We know who you are and what you've released. Now make us f***ing dance. (I'm on a corporate network, sorry.)

See a discerning New York audience as a *challenge* -- not a disability. Call us eat-sh*t challenged. As in, impress us, dammit!

I was at Hiro. It was actually a pretty fin night. Presets definitely got people jumping by the middle of their set. Something was weird with the Banger crew though... though I like their music their set didn't do it for me and we ended up leaving about an hour in.

Don't worry... there's parties where *most* of the people are there to dance. You just have to work a little harder to find them. It was pretty obvious from the beginning that the Banger night was more photo-op than dance party for a lot of the people there.

Studio B has been like that every night I've been except for the Lindstrom performance.

Thank goodness for the underground...

people are actually paying attention to what the French version of Chad Kroeger says?

that's the best you can come up with after 9 months?

After this event I've changed my mind about Busy P, before he was for me just "nothing", but now I became his biggest fan.

I"m not surprised. Busy P is completely overated. I've seen him twice in Sydney. yawn. best track he played was Beastie Boys, A predictable no brainer crowd pleaser. then after that old ed banger nothing new the rest of the set. People were on alot of drugs so they danced.

Kavinsky is the same. He is terrible , boring repetitive arpegiator ripping off the 80's something chronic with some distortion thrown in.

they are riding on the back of much better acts like daft punk , digitalism , justice and sebastian.

NYC knows phony's so they didn't dance. Evidence is the Presets went alot better. a much more talented band showing them up.

word.

i thought i remembered a lot of ppl dancing at this show

Indeed he looks really bad and he must sing simply perfectly if he wants with such appearance to achieve success.

Yes there were a lot of people dancing on that show.