Posted in hiphop | music | video on May 21, 2007

not cool

As Wes has pointed out (more than once), Beanie Sigel is playing Knitting Factory in NYC tomorrow (5/22).

In the video below - one definitely making the rounds on the Internet, Beanie has some not-nice things to say about fellow Roc-A-Fella member Kanye and Pharrell....

not cool?

not cool?

Comments (20)

I like Sigel, but I think he is missing the part where Kayne and Pharrell have sort of moved away from the "hood" part of their image and that they are mostly flaunting their wealth... So his saying that this isn't cool to him and that they would get jumped where he is from is inconsequential.

Posted by Marlon | May 21, 2007 2:02 PM

Wait, and it's "cool" to be Beanie?

Wouldn't it be "cool" if all music genres had a dress code/limitations for self-expression?

This guy's comments are basically a summation of all that is wrong with hip-hop right now, which is a lot.

And people wonder why its sales are down.

Posted by Jay | May 21, 2007 2:02 PM

Hip hop artists are for the most part a big self-parody. Years from now all the pseudo-hip badass posturing and bling-bling and booty-shaking videos will be fuel for the type of yuks that 70s and 80s fashion and crap music now provides.

Posted by Mr. T | May 21, 2007 2:10 PM

so, beanie says that it's not cool to walk around flaunting your wealth in a genre where your core audience is from the projects. okay, beans, that's totally understandable, but what was going on when you first got signed to roc-a-fella and you had the $10,000 pendant on your chain and were buying bentleys every other month?

i'm not trying to be a hater, but let he without sin cast the first stone.

Posted by douglas martin | May 21, 2007 3:25 PM

Pharrell isn't a Roc-A-Fella member.

Posted by Junior | May 21, 2007 3:45 PM

1. Did I miss something? People already mock 90's hip-hop culture, which was when white suburbanites first got hard from consuming the poverty-inspired culture their parents and grandparents themselves caused. The 90's was the decade of ignorant cash-in's and cooing hard and flaunting like noveau rich. That's why these pop MC's now are a lot more savvy about the industry, and are making a killing even at underground levels. But we already laugh at the obviously bad stuff. But if all forms and shades and degrees of every genre got shown on TV, played on the radio, and had it's history and theory taught, mainstream tastes wouldn't be so overwhelming vapid and unlearned and perhaps this strang surge of nu-racism coming from white Americans wouldn't so adamantly spit out tired old predjudiced, paranoid 80's rockist bullshit about how hip-hop isn't "music".
2. Fuck Beanie Sigel. Diversify your bonds, nigga.

Posted by Pre-Gentrification Bed-Stuy Resident | May 21, 2007 4:55 PM

Nu-racism? What the hell is that? Of course hip-hop is music - is it racist to point out that quite a bit of it sucks?

Posted by Dick Hertz | May 21, 2007 8:50 PM

Eh. I'd like to ask you to reread that. I'm specifically talking about a specific kind of pervasive attitude. Nowhere do I even subtly connect criticism of hip-hop with racism.

Nu-racism is just a lazy term to discuss the reactionary surge of bigotry that's completely accepted these last 5 or 6 years. Surprisingly enough, there seems to be poeple studying the trend.

Posted by Bed-Stuy. | May 21, 2007 11:44 PM

beanie siegel (sp?) is better than both pharell and kanye anyway. pa is bringing it hard: beanie, freeway, peedi peedi.

Posted by Anonymous | May 22, 2007 5:51 AM

dear bedstuy,

are you familiar with the term, "victim mentality"? also, i'm interested to learn more about this "nu-racism" that you refer to. is this when particular groups of individuals that have in the past been the victim of racism, stood up for civil rights, and then ultimately exhibit the same racist attitudes that they once opposed? just wondering.

Posted by pre-gentrification atl resident | May 22, 2007 2:21 PM

Not even in hubris, but I don't feel like engaging a socio-political discussion that I'll win anyway.

"Victim mentality"? Why don't you just come out and claim "reverse racism", while you're shitting out of your mouth.

Posted by Bed-Stuy. | May 22, 2007 3:14 PM

"this strang (sic) surge of nu-racism coming from white Americans wouldn't so adamantly spit out tired old predjudiced, paranoid 80's rockist bullshit about how hip-hop isn't "music"."

I re-read your post and your quote above actually looks to me like a not-too-subtle connection of criticism of hip-hop with racism.
So anyways, what is it - your first year in liberal arts? Second?

Posted by Dick Hertz | May 22, 2007 3:56 PM

hooray for pretentious bullshit!!!

Posted by Bridges and Balloons | May 22, 2007 5:27 PM

Eh. It's not in a cause-and-effect sense. Criticizing hip-hop is in now way racist (usually, save for some contexts), but I was referring to that being an act under the umbrella of the gradual surge in accepted racism. You, maybe aptly, thought I meant the former. That definitely needed clarification, so I see what you're talking about

Cute that you chose to ride on a cliche in an attempt to condescend.

I'm just trying to express an opinion, something you've yet to bother to do. Any asshole can sit back and deride.

Posted by Bed-Stuy | May 22, 2007 6:50 PM

You're correct. And so, let me put forth the following opinion: You, sir, are a pompous windbag.

Posted by Dick Hertz | May 22, 2007 8:43 PM

--"Victim mentality"? Why don't you just come out and claim "reverse racism", while you're shitting out of your mouth.


dearest bedstuy,

one last thought my friend...well maybe two. "reverse racism" is the equivalent of no-racism, or as it it were, the removal of racism. racism is racism regardless of which race happens to be condescending at the time. however, what I'M claiming is "reverse bigotry" (note: hint of sarcasm). my second thought is that your eloquently put phrase: "shitting out of your mouth", hints to a limitation in your ability to expound astutely.

best regards,

atl

Posted by atl | May 23, 2007 9:14 AM

^^^^y'all not cool to be...

Posted by twerkolator | May 29, 2007 11:16 AM

"one last thought my friend...well maybe two. 'reverse racism' is the equivalent of nu-racism, or as it it were, the removal of racism."

Posted by lola | July 30, 2007 12:38 PM

SO WHAT LET THE MAN HAVE HAVE HIS OPINION ISNT THAT HIS AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH THATS WHAT'S WRONG W/DIS FUCKED UP WORLD IT GOES ON AND ON KEEP DOING YA THANG BEANS U STILL THE SHIT 2 ME...

Posted by MRNOJOKE | February 25, 2008 10:00 PM

Long live the Kanye-meister!

Posted by Anonymous | February 25, 2008 10:26 PM

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