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Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

Jesus & Mary Chain @ Webster Hall

This fourth and last of their U.S. reunion shows (May 22, 2007) was the only one I attended. Price aside, I liked it. Not everyone was happy though.

Just Like Honey @ Webster Hall part I

Just Like Honey @ Webster HAll part II

That's Nicole from the Comas singing backup again. More dates....

Jesus & Mary Chain - Summer 2007 Tour Dates
22/06 - UK London @ Meltdown Festival
04/07 - Portugal Lisbon @ Super Bock Super Rock Festival
13/07 - Spain Madrid @ Summercase Festival
14/07 - Spain Barcelona @ Summercase Festival
12/08 - Germany bHildesheim @ M'era Luna Festival
31/08 - UK Argyll, Scotland @ Connect Festival
01/09 - Ireland, Stradbally, Laois @ Electric Picnic

DOWNLOAD: The Jesus & Mary Chain - About You (MP3)

Previously
* the Jesus & Mary Chain played Webster Hall, David Letterman ++ Comas - 2007 Tour Dates

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Comments (55)

Singer is such a happy man.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 3:28 AM

I thought is was great!

Posted by Scot | May 23, 2007 5:01 AM

Jim Reid's looking kind of like Brett from Suede.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 9:06 AM

Not sure what everyone was complaining about or what else they were expecting, but JAMC was awesome.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 9:52 AM

Show last night was pretty damn good if you ask me....i guess they read the reviews and turned it around.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 10:15 AM

how was a place to bury strangers?

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 10:34 AM

He looks like the singer from the National.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 10:41 AM

The show was great. They sounded clean and tight. I don't know what everyone expected, but it worked for me.

Posted by brassbonanza | May 23, 2007 10:55 AM

the strangers ROCKED...
they had some bitchin' prints for sale at the show, too.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 11:16 AM

Not sure why so many people seemed pissed off about this show. Sure they come off as not caring and just going through the motions, and there is probably something to that (considering this reunion was fueled but Coachella offering them more and more money until they finally couldn't refuse). But think back to the 80s/90s when the band was young and at the height of their popularity. Look at their first performance from Letterman back then. They've always had this way about them.

In a way we're luckier today than we were back then. I remember back in the day, JAMC would play 20 or 30 minutes, get into a fight, and leave the stage.

On both nights of the NY shows they played full 70 minute sets.

Posted by Kevin | May 23, 2007 11:20 AM

I don't know, guys, I was a little disappointed. Looked like they were going through the motions, and the songs themselves didn't sound that great in a live setting.

And perhaps the reason why people seem to be complaining a little bit is because there was an anticipation/excitement factor to this ultimately -somewhat- deflating experience...

Posted by Ned Schneebly | May 23, 2007 11:27 AM

great show and song selection both nights..Loz's drums especially the snare was way to low in the mix..the shuffle beats were such a big part of the JAMC sound and were bearly audible.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 11:30 AM

All they had to do was add some dry ice and the show would have been a million times better.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 11:51 AM

It's all relevant... if these two shows end up being the last we'll ever see of the J&MC then they will go down as being really cool, stripped down ledendary swansongs. If, however, they return to a career and grace the stage as an ongoing entity, then these two shows will end up as meaningless mid -career uninteresting performances.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 11:55 AM

They shoudl have put wigs on, pumped up the fog machine, drenched themselves in backlit spotlights and distortion and renamed themselves The Jesus And Mary chain Experience.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 11:58 AM

what i posted on the other thread:

okay, just got back from the second night and my biggest complaint is that it wasn't loud enough. they sounded much better at coachella, not necessarily because they played better but just because it was a fuller sound. it should have been like 50% louder, songs like reverbation sounded much better than the rest because you could feel the volume.

other than that, it was pretty much what i expected since this is clearly not a tour they had planned. the coachella promoters kept offering them more cash and the band finally gave in. there was practically no stage production, which is unusual for jamc as their past tours have included tons of background visuals, strobes, smoke machines, etc... combined with the sound issues, everything came across as just a little bit anemic.

despite all that, it was still a good show. the songs sounded good and i thought the band performed well, especially when you consider how long it's been since they've been playing actively.

for me, it's really something to hear all these songs performed live again. bottom line is that it was a fucking jesus and mary chain show.

that last sentence either means the world to you or it doesn't. if you weren't there, use that to determine whether you missed out or not.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 12:06 PM

Strangers made me want to jump off the balcony towards the end. They need to put that self indulgent guitar noise pedal rock ending to rest. Thats so over done.

Posted by ShineOn1974 | May 23, 2007 12:12 PM

I was there last night, I liked the show but the mix of the bad sound and the expensive ticket made me feel like watching a show at BB King's bar grill.
The crowd didn't look as bad as described on yesterday's reviews, but it's true that audiences in NY have been horrible lately (my last shows were Dean & Britta , the God the bad and the queen) where they were mostly fratboys on light blue stripe shirts + Blackberries and williamsburg trust fund hipsters. sad.
The added Catchfire to the set list!.........not with out effort, though.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 12:25 PM

I was there last night, I liked the show but the mix of the bad sound and the expensive ticket made me feel like watching a show at BB King's bar grill.
The crowd didn't look as bad as described on yesterday's reviews, but it's true that audiences in NY have been horrible lately (my last shows were Dean & Britta , the Good the bad and the queen) where they were mostly fratboys on light blue stripe shirts + Blackberries and williamsburg trust fund hipsters. sad.
The added Catchfire to the set list!.........not with out effort, though.

Posted by Pablo | May 23, 2007 12:27 PM

Hahaha Bv, what is that you say..."Price aside, I liked it". Pardon me for assuming but from those beautiful and close up pictures I am guessing you had a photo pass and probably were on the list for the show. But thanks for throwing your hat into the ring with the plebians who actually had to pay for a ticket and might actually have a reason to gripe.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 12:55 PM

In thinking about what wasn't quite right with the show (and there definitely was something not quite right) no-one's mentioned the venue. Every time I go there I swear I won't go back, from the overly aggressive bouncers outside insisting that if you're waiting for a friend you must stand behind a little rope whilst 50 or so people smoke around you, to the stupid bar set up which has no taps upstairs and some system that involves one person pouring a drink whilst another takes your money and then forgets who paid for what. Then the sound and atmosphere in general are awful, this seems to be true no matter how 'in to it' a particular band is.

Bowery Presents have done an excellent job securing United Palace as a venue for the hugely popular bands - surely they can find somewhere better for those bands too big for their far superior LES venues?

Posted by Alex | May 23, 2007 1:05 PM

the sound at webster - as it always is - was fine - it was the band that decided to dial down their performance.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:13 PM

I think the Webster Hall staff is a lot nice and more laid back than the Bowery Ballroom. At the Bowery Ballroom they are brutal, mean, nasty, and should all be fired. I can't stress that enough.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:15 PM

I've always found sound at Webster on the quiet side and with its problems (I agree with earlier comment about not being able to hear much of the drums last night) but I guess it depends who you see there.

But regardless - any venue which starts pumping obnoxiously loud bass lines from the club downstairs (as happened during the Peter Bjorn & John gig the other week) is hardly a great place to see a band.

Posted by Alex | May 23, 2007 1:19 PM

I really do not understand how people can say that hearing the music played louder will allow them to enjoy a show more. I stopped going to a lot of show because the volume is too high. Having been to both shows, I think the first night was infinitely better, especially with the lower volume. I think they came out for last night's show due to the high volume of the opener (APTBS). I can't understand why APTBS needs to play at that volume. Their songs on myspace sound 100 percent better than anything I heard from them last night.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:20 PM

does anyone have the setlist for 2nd night?

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:36 PM


To me wasn't a loudness thing, the sound was muddy from were I was regardless it was to loud o too low, level was fine.
I though the sound on the letterman show was very good. This was the first time I have that problem with webster hall.The Bartender's system was totally retarded.they Cherged me $6 for a heineken during The Comas (very poor by the way)and $7 during JAMC. It's a disco not a rock club.....they have those policies. I'd rather prefer bowery ballroom.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:41 PM

Webster Hall has a very long history of live rock music. It has hosted Rock shows as far back as the 1960's when bands such as the Jefferson airplane, etc. played there. It was having Punk concerts for the entire decade of the 80's when it was then known as the Ritz. The shows were loud, powerful and exciting. This is the exaact same venue. If the sound and performance are less than thrilling now, it is not because of the venue. It is because of the performance of the particular band and the sound choices that they make.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:48 PM

Webster Hall has a very long history of live rock music. It has hosted Rock shows as far back as the 1960's when bands such as the Jefferson airplane, etc. played there. It was having Punk concerts for the entire decade of the 80's when it was then known as the Ritz. The shows were loud, powerful and exciting. This is the exaact same venue. If the sound and performance are less than thrilling now, it is not because of the venue. It is because of the performance of the particular band and the sound choices that they make.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 1:48 PM

no dude you are wrong, the sound at webster hall is god awful. i saw the silversun pickups last week and could here zero guitar standing in the absolute middle of the floor. same problem last night, william was turned way too low, and i'm pretty sure i havent lost that range of my hearing yet. but i gotta agree, "bottom line it was a jesus and fucking mary chain show". i caught them once in 1994 and then missed the CMJ show in 1998 and have been kicking myself for nine fucking years, so i left beaming. hell i even bought the tshirt with the cover of Automatic on it that i've wanted since high school. who knew i'd have a JAMC/AmericanApparel shirt, the 21st century is getting weirder by the minute.

Posted by kanoa | May 23, 2007 1:52 PM

"This is the exaact same venue. If the sound and performance are less than thrilling now, it is not because of the venue. It is because of the performance of the particular band and the sound choices that they make"

Erm...no. Regardless of a building's history it's how its managed today that makes it a good or bad venue to see a band. Are you honestly telling me they have had the same stupid bar set up, sound system, agressive bouncers and club nights which start before the bands finish since the 60s? It's these things that make it a bad place to see a band, nothing to do with who played there 40 years ago.

Anyway, each to their own, I'm never going to be in love with the place.

Posted by Alex | May 23, 2007 1:57 PM

The first night was a little week at start and towards the end with definitely solid in the middle and overall a good show. JAMC acted naturally without to be something that they are not, thank God! I also enjoyed the volume level although the sound at Webster Hall definitely sucks and bands should think twice before playing there. Bottom line, there are not that many bands from the mid 80s that left such a big mark on me like JAMC did and I’m totally happy to have seen them 20 years later in the company of my one and only.

Posted by Benoit | May 23, 2007 2:21 PM

The first night was a little weak at start and towards the end with definitely solid in the middle and overall a good show. JAMC acted naturally without to be something that they are not, thank God! I also enjoyed the volume level although the sound at Webster Hall definitely sucks and bands should think twice before playing there. Bottom line, there are not that many bands from the mid 80s that left such a big mark on me like JAMC did and I’m totally happy to have seen them 20 years later in the company of my one and only.

Posted by Benoit | May 23, 2007 2:22 PM

Hmmm i don't agree with the guy above. The first night was only weak in the beginning. By the end they were cranking.
As for Webster Hall. I have been to plenty of shows there now and I went to plenty of shows when it was The Ritz. Some of the greatest shows i have ever seen(The Cramps, Iggy Pop, Fishbone,Butthole Surfers off the top of my head) were there at The RItz. To say the venue is exactly the same is just so wrong though. The stage was set up different. The layout was different(the bar was not where it is now) They have expanded the place in both height and width. They opened up the ceiling. Plenty of changes and with that the sound changes. It is not as nice as it was when it was The Ritz, That being said, I have been to many shows at Webster and the sound was fine even great. It depends on the band and their sound engineers. It is def far from the worst place to see a show in the city. JAMC should have sounded better. Still a very nice show but a far diff band then the one i saw back in the day. Now if i could only get my hands on that time machine.......

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 2:36 PM

coming from one of the biggest jamc fans since '84, all i can say is that last night sucked and i should have stayed at home. horrible.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 3:30 PM

The changes from the Ritz are not that drastic. the only real big alterations is that bar in the back of the floor and the rised platform for standing on the far left, those horrible molded mask things all over the walls, and the hanging booth at the back of the balcony. The room is the same size, the stage is the same size, and the balcony wraps around untouched like in the old days. I can only assume that with the advances in technology, that the sound system is probably much better than it was twenty years ago. When it was the Ritz, the rest of the building except for the main staircase and the main auditorium was off limits, but asides from the aforementioned base lines pumped up when the dancing starts early downstairs, that doesn't seem to effect the maion room much. I never even knew there were other parts to the club until it became a dance club after the Ritz moved uptown.

I agree that the place was better when it was the Ritz, but the changes are not so drastic that it can be used as an excuse for a lame performance and bad sound from a band.

The Jesus and Mary Chain played here back in the day when it was the Ritz, anybody here saw that show and this weeks? How does it compare sound wise?

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 3:55 PM

"no dude you are wrong, the sound at webster hall is god awful. i saw the silversun pickups last week"

Oh, you saw a show there LAST WEEK and with that you can sum up the club's sound history based on that and this weeks J&MC shows?

I saw a million shows there over the last TWENTY FIVE YEARS, and the sound varies from show to show and band to band. I have seen bands play that room that were so loud and powerful and crystal clear that there is no way you can tell me it is the room's fault that the sound is lame because of this week and last weeks shows.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 3:59 PM

"Are you honestly telling me they have had the same stupid bar set up, sound system, agressive bouncers and club nights which start before the bands finish since the 60s? It's these things that make it a bad place to see a band, nothing to do with who played there 40 years ago."

Do you think agressive bouncers were invented at Webster Hall? Of course the Ritz had aggressive bouncers. All clubs have had them. And back in the day, sometimes the bouncers were even WORSE thatn they are now. as far as the bar setup: the big bar on the right side just outside of the main floor has always been there. The only new bar set up is the small one in the back of the audience, and if you are in front of it, then you don't even know that it is there. I wasn't around then, but I'm sure in the 60's the party didn't end in there when the band went off.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 4:07 PM


Was anybody at the show they did at LIFE in 1999?
With out William for 1/2 full house?
That was the last time they palyed in NY as JAMC before turning into Freeheat. It was sad, but still they rocked and the sound was very very good.
They sounded good a Letterman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f_N36SfHL0
Why they didn't sound as good at webster hall wich like it or not it's usually a good sounding venue.........Ask the tech. $45 should have that covered i think.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 4:22 PM

"Do you think agressive bouncers were invented at Webster Hall?"

Obviously not, but how very nice of you to be so condescending and completely misrepresent my comments and not put your name to it, thanks.

My point was quite simply that my dislike of the venue has very little to do with the actual building and a lot to do with the way it is run - and the response to my post telling me that because the venue was good in the 60s / 70s / 80s there can't be anything wrong with it today I found just a little absurd. At no point did I complain about where the bars were located either, just the awful service. All I was saying was that I find the other Bowery Presents venues much better and that were last night's show held elsewhere I feel that I would have enjoyed it even more.

That was all.

For those that don't think that Webster is the greatest, any suggestions on where else the Bowery could be putting on these shows? Their use of United Palace shows that they're quite open to more out of the ordinary spaces and locations.

Posted by Alex | May 23, 2007 4:30 PM

Obviously not, but how very nice of you to be so condescending and completely misrepresent my comments and not put your name to it, thanks.

You're welcome. Any time.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 5:15 PM

I am a big JAMC fan. I was at the Monday night show and I can tell you the bad mix had nothing to do with Webster Hall. If you can't hear the guitars standing right in front of the stage, it's not the venue! It's up to the sound guys to get the mix right. I have seen plenty of shows there recently which sounded fine. I also saw many shows at the old Ritz including JAMC(Psychocandy era- awful show)The Who, U2, XTC, Rockpile, Graham Parker, Living Color, Dave Edmunds, Billy Idol, Hoodoo Gurus, Pretenders, Squeeze, Devo, Bryan Ferry etc. Sound was never an issue back then. The old Ritz however was a much cooler club. People did hang out before and after the bands played dancing and partying to great music and the big video screen. Much better vibe back in the day.

Posted by jjazznola | May 23, 2007 5:30 PM

Some posts above mention that people shouldn't have been there expecting Psychocandy era J&MC. However, the HUGE full page ad that was placed in the Village Voice for these two shows used a large photo from the Psychocandy album photoshoot. As the group has not played in about a decade and people buying tickets had no current live sound or image to associate with this show, it is not unreasonable to realize why a lot of people would indeed expect something akin to what is being advertised. While it is the norm for a band to move and grow from its original signature sound, it is a tad unethical to trade in on it for advertising purposes in order to sell tickets and then completely ignore it once all those ticket buyers are inside the venue. It's almost like a bait and switch. You can't blame people for expecting somthing close to the original sound if suddenly after all these years away, the band reappears, without a new album and with an ad for a show using their old psychocandy photo. If people are wrong to have expected a retro 1985 era feedback drenched live show, then the band is not innocent in why this happened. They filled peoples heads with that image in order to sell tickets, and then did absoluteley nothing to honor the image that they pulled people in with.

While a decent number of fans from back in the day attended this show and probably had more realistic expectations for what they would NOT get, a large number of people who bought tickets were younger fans who did not see the band back in the day and may have felt that they were indeed in for a Psychocandy style performace based on the graphics and photo used for selling the tickets.


Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 5:32 PM

The Who played the Ritz? I don't think so. Are you sure you are not confusing that with the Capital Theater in NJ? The Capital Theater was operating around the same time as the RItz in it's early days and The Who I believe played there. I don't however, ever remember hearing that the Who played at the Ritz.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 5:34 PM

Misleading old image used to sell tickets is interesting...but I also think they have outgrown the era of playing venues of the past too.

There is no promotion whatsoever other than the referenced picture. I said from the begining of the reunion they should play a bigger place with seats! The crowd attached themselves like barnicles! I mean hardly any movement whatsoever. Not like the old days for sure. (I am not asking for a mosh pit, so stop the critique please) but if you are going to a live concert to stand and stare, I prefer to be seated and just listen.

This weeks New York magazine has a story about the Psychedelic Era mentioning a Whitney Museum exhibit celebrating art 40 years ago during the "summer of love". Just perfect for a reunited JAMC to exploit.

Should have had a bigger show, lights, psychelicized the event and been at Carnegie Hall! Tribute show at Lincoln Center would have been fine too. Even Radio City Music Hall...they deserve much better. I could have made millions with it and the DVD! DAMMIT!

(p.s. if there are any spelling errors please refrain from having to point them out. Thank you)

Posted by David S | May 23, 2007 7:31 PM

Radio City??? They didn't even sell out Webster Hall for the 2 nights they played there. Even Black Rebel Motorcycle Club sold out Webster Hall well in advance.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 8:05 PM

Yeah i am not buying Anon 5:32's post about the bait and switch with the picture from that era. Pretty lame argument. I think it is more likely that the people expecting the original sound were people probably not really informed of the history of the band or the sound that was really signature for most of their career which was not feedback drenched. I laughed at how the poster tried to sell that lame idea but it was a dog with fleas.
And yeah laughing at The Who playing the ritz...that never happened but funny. I did see that pretenders and hoodoo gurus shows though. They were great and yeah the big video screen. Ahhh the old days.

Posted by Anonymous | May 23, 2007 11:01 PM

Bad pics and angry First night review @

http://ireadsomething.blogspot.com

Posted by Airo | May 23, 2007 11:14 PM

I have been a big jamc fan since psychocandy- didn't really get into their alblums after darklands- but I bought a live alblum of theirs covering two concerts in the 90's- and that feedback drenched sound was gone then so I wasn't expecting to hear it this week- and didn't-no suprise.

However- I was really impressed with the quality of the vocals- also I thought they made an effort to play some notable songs(and at least 3 from psychocandy- as advertised)- something alot of bands/artists are too cool to do- ask anyone who has seen lou reed.

They were good overall- glad I went- who else were ya goin' to see?

Posted by baumann | May 24, 2007 11:36 AM

a "peer review" at spin.com by sune of the raveonettes and michael of stellastarr*:

http://www.spin.com/features/ithappenedlastnight/2007/05/070522_jesusmarychain/

Posted by xxx | May 24, 2007 3:09 PM

so am I the only one that thought the shows sounded great? I was on the floor for the first gig and in the upstairs vip area for the second gig and thought both were great nights. The second night was better sounding but anytime a band plays a venue back to back, the first set is always going to suffer to some extreme. I have both nights recorded, the first night the crowd was insaine! The floor was bouncing, mosh pits and fights broke out... It was just like old times. The second night had seen a more subdued crowd. Still wished they would come back to LA but maybe that will happen in 2008 from what I hear.

Posted by rob dobbs | May 28, 2007 4:28 PM

It was amazing to see them, no matter what.

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