Why would someone help out something that is highly corporated-funded like the Pool Parties. Just have Helio cough up some more cash and hire pay. Pay them real money. I would volunteer for a profit, but the Pool Parties just scream out commercialism.

maybe you get paid in helios. i'm sure there are extra ones laying around somewhere...

If anyone's interested, I'm putting up tons of Boredoms stuff leading up to the show. Click my little name there...

@anonymous
The Pool Parties people are more of a humble "little engine that could" than any sort of big corporate machine. The people that run it have jobs and live regular lives as far as I can tell. Someone told me the other day that they thought JellyNYC/ Pool Parties was part of Live Nation and I had to set them straight. I don't even know what Helio is ( I saw the big signs at the show but still I'm not sure/interested in what the company sells), but I doubt the level of sponsorship they are offering is enough to be paying big staffs and all of that. As far as I can tell (and I am open to being wrong) volunteering for Pool Parties is a worthwhile thing to do and they treat you well. The shows are FREE, man! Why NOT give a helping hand to encourage more fun things in this city?

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what he said. it costs a lot of money to put on those shows and sponsorships are an unfortunate necessity. you have to pay bands, get permits, rent stage/lighting/sound people, security, food, and a lot of other things you don't even think about usually.

i happen to know one of the people in charge of Jelly NYC/Pool Parties and in no way are they corporate sell outs! They started this company from the bottom and you should be pleased to see them doing well! Shame!

"Pay them real money. I would volunteer for a profit, but the Pool Parties just scream out commercialism."

i got suckered by some of that "Fake" money one time too, good lookin' out Mr. Anonymous.

dude, if you cant see that these events add something to the city and our summer, you must have zero fun at all, so what they have a sponsor.

oh my god! a cell phone wants my attention!

I don't think having sponsors for a free event is a bad thing, actually it is quite good. But to have a corporate sponsored event and have free volunteers is terrible. Helio and other corporate intereswts make money, JellyNYC makes money, volunteers get zero. I would volunteer for a true non-profit, not for the pool parties. The BV CitySol event appears to be a much better thing to volunteer for: no one makes money. Shame on jellynyc.

PAY ME!!!

Jeepers, I'm with Anon 5:12 on this one. McCarren Pool was a lot cooler when JellyNYC just took donations at the door. I was happy to contribute then, and even considered volunteering this year until I saw all those gigantic Helio signs and cellphone sales booths. They've turned the whole thing into one big advertisement, and I get enough of that shit out in the real world.

Is Yoshimi in the Boredoms the one who battles the pink robots?

JellyNYC is also sponsoring the Boredoms event along with Nike and others. Because it's free. Free events need corporate sponsorship to cover costs. Or they could just charge really high ticket prices with insane service charges. Either way I get the feeling a lot of you would still complain.

Jelly is an amazing company doing great things for our city. These events must cost 10's of thousands of dollars EACH to produce. So yeah they need sponsors and they need volunteers. To complain about it or to call them sell outs is the stupidest thing I have ever heard! I wish half the posters on Brooklyn Vegan would die in some awful accident preferably at an Arcade Fire concert.

"Is Yoshimi in the Boredoms the one who battles the pink robots?"

Yes.

"They've turned the whole thing into one big advertisement, and I get enough of that shit out in the real world."

JellyNYC does not operate outside the real world, which is the point. This IS the real world, so 'free' events have to be paid for by somebody. It's great that you were willing to contribute before, but apparently not enough people were kicking in to keep it going... so Helio stepped in. It's better than not having them at all.

corporate america uses/takes advantage of people all the time...

by knowing that going into a jellynyc party, or any other corporate sponsored event, is 1/2 the battle. bc in the end, why not take a little back, if 'they're' giving it - it beats paying for tics. and there aint nothin wrong with it.

it's funny too bc i never even see those booths w giant cell phones/sports drinks/whatever around...mass marketing has us all on sensory overload anyway, so all the glitzy colorful advertisements fall on deaf ears.

"The BV CitySol event appears to be a much better thing to volunteer for: no one makes money. Shame on jellynyc."

What planet do you live on? Do you pay rent on the barter system? The subway accepts your can goods for a metro pass? Keep sucking down $6 Fiji waters and $3 organic tomatoes like the elitist hypocrite you are. Your entertainment is someone else's work, Chucklehead.

volunteers get free ice cream and beer,
sounds like a good deal to me.

"JellyNYC is also sponsoring the Boredoms event "

from my understanding they're the producers of the boredoms event, the same way they're the producers of the pool parties, rad shows in brooklyn that are free, someone should really complain until they put a stop to this

first in foremost, the Pool shows are some the least fun events of the summer. The only way they could suck more fun out of big outdoor rock show is if they charged $30-$50 for the shows, which Live Nation seems to have cornered the market on.

also though, JellyNYC is a bullshit consortium of music industry insider-style schmucks using free shows as a trojan horse to convince people that they're doing something DIY, and as a public service.

JellyNYC came out of nowhere last year and started spouting all this grass roots community coalition BS, but no one I know who's actually involved in the DIY underground of Brooklyn was ever approached by these people to join up, or had even heard of the people involved.

They are doing this series to fatten their own pocketbooks and to gain notoriety, and more power to them, but for gods sake, don't give these clowns your labor for free! They're not charity!

the Jelly NYC dudes aren't corporate sell-outs at all - they are in fact corporate schills, never having had any independent cred to sell-out in the first place.

if you don't think the pool parties are fun / if you don't want to support the "MAN" / if you're just going to stand there with your arms folded, killing the fun for everyone around you, then maybe you shouldn't go.

however, if you and your big sack of self-righteous bullshit want to do something "socially responsible," then go buy yourself an ironically simple t-shirt from american apparel - haven't you heard they're sweatshop-free?!?!

no seriously, please don't come to the pool anymore. we're going to be too busy being PHYSICALLY FORCED to buy cell phones to talk to you, anyways.

oh fuck, what am i doing on this blog? is that an... ADVERTISEMENT at the top of the page?????

hah hah hah somebody spilled the beans that they are in fact the subject of this article...

I haven't read a single statement on here dissing JellyNYC that isn't completely true. The "parties" *are* stiff and corporate sponsored. They don't let you bring in your own food or drink, they are forced to buy from the company store. You are herded out right when it's over. The organization is a promotion company, not a charity. The people who run it are all rock industry people and not "diy grassroots organizers" or whatever the hell it is they claim to be.

No one is saying that JellyNYC shouldn't throw parties, or that free all ages shows aren't inherently a good thing, and no-one is saying that JellyNYC are the worst offenders on the block in the over-commercialization department - but geez, aside from being free and all ages there is just so much uptight and over-marketed about these pool parties.

You didn't have to create a bullshit facade that you're some community-minded coalition doing this, you guys just chose to try to pull, one over on the audience for marketing purposes. Maybe you'd get more respect and kudos if you didn't try to manipulate your image so much.

Claiming to be independent and diy when you're not makes you look like phonies who don't hold your crowd in very high regard - the "little engine that could" comment is particularly laughable.

the point is simple - JellyNYC is a for-profit company. They make money, even with free shows - and that takes a whole lot of corporate sponsorship. There's nothing wrong with that, but they can't expect to get free labor as if they were a non-profit independent organization.

Nobody should work for them for free unless they're getting a lot more out of it than ice cream and beer.

It's like when a Hollywood-financed semi-independent movie company tries to film in a location for free or get crew or extras to work for free. If they've accepted the corporate bucks and are making money off the project, then they should not be expecting any free labor.

these gusy are very far from rock insiders. Much more like music industry rejects.

"If they've accepted the corporate bucks and are making money off the project, then they should not be expecting any free labor."

Exactly. JellyNYC is pulling in the cash, but they want free labor? Shameless.

I have no problem with corporate sponsorships. In fact, it seems to be the new trend. The Onion, AM NY, the Village Voice and other newspapers are all free thanks to ads. Broadcast is free thanks to ads. Ozzfest this year is free thanks to ads. Why not more concerts? Who needs Ticketmaster? But it is disgusting that jellynyc is looking for further their profits by advertising themselves as a wholesome entity.

"Exactly. JellyNYC is pulling in the cash, but they want free labor? Shameless"

What do you think the people behind JellyNYC are doing with all the "cash" you claim they are pulling in? Obviously they'll want to make some money for all the hard work they're doing to put on these shows. The expense of these shows is probably huge. Should they also not be able to pay their rent? Would you rather they didn't have free shows, and went out and got other jobs?

Do you think the bands play for free? I don't hear anyone complaining that TV on the Radio is probably getting $20,000-$50,000 to play the "FREE" show. How come no one is upset that Man Man went home much richer than they were before the "FREE" show.

I doubt any of the actual volunteers have any complaints, and I doubt any of the voluteers care to have these unsolicited representatives commenting on their behalf on this message board.

"Should they also not be able to pay their rent?"

So the free-labor volunteer shouldn't have to pay their rent judging by your logic?

"Obviously they'll want to make some money for all the hard work they're doing to put on these shows. "

and this statement somehow doesn't apply to the "volunteers" you guys are trying to recruit??

"these gusy are very far from rock insiders. Much more like music industry rejects."

so you're admitting that the JellyNYC dudes *are* people from the music industry.

Whether they're tycoons or failures, these folks are straight outta corporate music world, and not the grassroots organizers they claim to be.

Don't work for them for free!

the staff of jelly consists of 1 guy who used to make a few music videos, another guy who used to bartend at Southpaw, and girl who has managed a band for 4 years that isnt going anywhere, and some other people.

in all fairness though, they are doing nothing but helping to put on free concerts and of course they need someone to help pay for it. you think TV on the Radio is palying for free???? They get 25k to play that pool parties show. no joke. it is becuase of the BANDS that jellyNYC needs outside funding. do you honestly expect them to lose 100k out of their own pocket just so you can see a fucking rock show? i mean please. you people are fucking retarded. I assure you that nobody at JellyNYC is retiring from money they make at pool parties. in fact i think if you go by their office on the corner of Metropolitan and Union and see the operation and the people in person, you wouldnt be so quick to slam them.

"another guy who used to bartend at Southpaw"

still bartends at Southpaw

I know these guys personally, and there isnt a chance in hell that they would try to take advantage of people nor are they doing this for the money. If anything, they care too much about keeping the home grown feel and the DIY aspect. if they had the money, or an extra sponser, im sure they could pay 20 volunteers 8 bucks an hour, but they dont. And if Pool Parties is their main source of income, then they obviously need to make something to cover them the rest of the year when there are no pool parties concerts.

These guys have fought so many battles just to put on shows like this and instead of ridiculing them for the sake of being the little bitch that you are, you should enlighten everyone here and explain how what you do for a living helps the community and provides FREE entertainment for people who dont make enough to spend $40 to go see some of their favorite bands.

And even if they turned a good profit, don't you think they deserve it? After all, they had a great idea, and made it happen. way more than 99% of you losers can say for yourselves.

"I know these guys personally, and there isnt a chance in hell that they would try to take advantage of people nor are they doing this for the money."

really? Because I heard 1st hand from Anthony in Best Fwends - who booked a flight and flew from Texas to play JellyNYC's 'Make Music NY' show - that JellyNYC tried to screw him and not pay him any of the money they had agreed to pay. This was after he very bravely played the show solo (Dustin had gotten stranded on a flooded highway in NJ and couldn't make it.)

Anyway, after he plays, which took a lot of courage, Anthony walks up the JellyNYC people - with a friend of his in tow - and tries to get his check. JellyNYC says absolutely no. Anthony pleads with the Jelly dudes that he had to pay for his plane ticket - but they tell him to fuck off.

Unbeknownst to the JellyNYC people, Anthony's friend who walked in with him is Matt Johnson from Matt and Kim. Matt, who had been quiet up till then, suddenly pipes up and says "you guys are fucked, we were thinking about playing one of you shows but after you've screwed our freind, we're not." The JellyNYC dude asks him what band he's in and he says Matt and Kim. Two minutes later, JellyNYC cuts Anthony a check.

True story!

why would anyone volunteer for a for-profit company??

there is such a thing as an internship, but at least an intern gets valuable experience and something to put on their resume.

barring that, you gotta pay people

"And even if they turned a good profit, don't you think they deserve it? "

yes, and I think they should pay their workers

WOW - YOU JELLYNYC PEOPLE REALLY RESPECT YOUR CROWD!

CHECK OUT THESE BELOW STATEMENTS, POSTED SUPPOSEDLY BY ANONYMOUS JELLYNYC 'SUPPORTERS':

"I wish half the posters on Brooklyn Vegan would die in some awful accident preferably at an Arcade Fire concert."

"if you and your big sack of self-righteous bullshit want to do something "socially responsible," then go buy yourself an ironically simple t-shirt from american apparel - haven't you heard they're sweatshop-free?!?!"

"like the elitist hypocrite you are."

"little bitch that you are"

"After all, they had a great idea, and made it happen. way more than 99% of you losers can say for yourselves."

"you people are fucking retarded."

WOW - YOU JELLYNYC PEOPLE REALLY RESPECT YOUR CROWD!

I Helio NY. I Helio NY.

what does the almighty BV think of JellyNYC? I mean, if BV likes them, they must be ok, and if he doesnt, than im sure they suck,

BV?

whoa - the Best Fwends story up above is serious - read that shit!!

someone from JellyNYC should step up and defend themselves here. thats a pretty fucked up story for sure. not the kind of story you want getting around.

have matt & kim played any jelly shows...i think not

I've heard that Best Fwends story. it's true.

"have matt & kim played any jelly shows...i think not"

they were asked, and they've turned it down

DON'T WORK FOR FREE FOR THESE PEOPLE!

yes, help a money making blogger for free!

help brooklyn vegan

he needs free help....help him help him for free!

and he will pay you with free-ness

man do I hope these promoter clowns didn't make any money off the Boredoms show today.

they sure didn't seem to know what the fuck they were doing.

you mean work for BV for free..
if he responds to your emails..
me and two friends of mine have offered
up our services through email and have yet to hear from him?
whatsup with that BV?
and what do you think of JellyNYC?