Having been exposed to Sonic Youth only a few times before Saturday, I have to say that I thought it sounded awesome (at least from across the street in the park).

Man, what a whiny little bitch nyctaper is. Go fuck yourself.

What a baby.

nyctaper---next time your pussy hurts, take some asprin.

Why do people keep referring to this as a 20 yr anniversary? That record came out in '88---not '87.

While I was pleased with their performance of Daydream Nation I was not happy to be subjected to half of Rather Ripped. Had I known that was going to happen I would have split right after they finished "Eliminator Jr."

HEy NYCtaper. You ar ethe person who is frowning and good because i hate you. taping is for dorks. rocking is for me.

SY makes your ass clap with thunderous riffs. From space come rays and from dominos comes pizza.

Hi BV,

why link to bitter personal messages like that of nyctaper? who is this guy anyway and what does his/her personal fiasco have to do with the concert?

Having never been to a pool show before I have to say that this show was a total blast. I still can't believe how good that place sounded. I figured that a wide open space surrounded by brick and concrete would sound awful, but it sounded so good. Funzo

The first Sonic Youth I bought was Evol back in 86 and the first time I saw SY was for their Goo tour in 90, and I have seen them multiple times ever since. The Brooklyn show was in my opinion a little weak. I thought the sound sucked… seemed like Thurston was having microphone problems… overall things seemed to be dragging with band with the exception of Shelly who was in full form. On the other hand, I’m always happy to see this band and Daydream Nation is definitely a seminal album and I’m very glad to have been part of what I consider a historical experience.

Loved the show, they sounded great, but it sorta confirmed what I've felt all along.. and I know this is blasphemy and all, but as a huge fan who owns all their records and goes to see them every time they play in town, I feel justified in saying: Daydream Nation is about 2 songs too long. although I wouldnt be able to pick which 2. Maybe I just prefer a normal show becuase they tend to whip out a surprise or two. obviously there were no surprises here. anyway all that said it was really was a flawless GREAT performance and I'm glad to have seen it. I teared up a few times actually..

It sounds like neither Lee, the sound guy, nor anyone in Sonic Youth knew about this at all. Maybe that's because email is impersonal and Sonic Youth probably gets more than a few every day. "cc'd to Lee Ranaldo" doesn't sound like "specific permission" to me.

so, nyctaper - you missed an amazing show. most people got in using magic tokens called TICKETS. These can be purchased with money and, unlike an email supposedly forwarded to a famous rock icon you've never met, will guarantee you entry.

anon 10:08
your post is abput 2 comments too long

a). nyctaper is a crabby baby.

b). taco time guy/girl is full blown crazy. no one eats dominos pizza.

Excellent show. Great Venue. Sound could have been better.

So this person wanted to tape Sonic Youth becuase he seemingly likes them and is a fan but when it didn't work out they somehow become "tired old hacks" and "1988 is over." That's some great logic there.

The show was amazing. The sound at Mccarren is good if not overly loud. It was great to see such an influential album played live. It only accentuated how mediocre there newer material is when they played half of the new album after Daydream Nation. Overall, I'd say it was the best show I've seen this summer.

They sounded incredible and it was a great experience to see them perform one of my favorite albums of all time from start to finish. I think the problem was that Daydream Nation is a long record, and it's not sequenced like a live set list. Taken song by song it's fine, but stretched out into one long concert it's more hypnotic than rocking. Plus it was a hot, humid night. Everybody was definitely into it though. They actually seemed to perk up a little more for the Rather Ripped encores.

Bats Inc. used a cassette to tape the show? Yeah, I be that sounds great. What is this, 1981? If you're gonna bother taping a show, at least get some real equipment. And no, your Talkboy doesn't count.

I sympathise w/ nyctaper a bit. He got written permission from the band/sound engineer to tape the show and was denied at the door because of preshow confusion. Too bad for all of you who didn't make it or those that did and would like to enjoy it again, cause judging by the White Stripes tape posted last week, it would have been an excellent recording.

so now that this is done when are they going to start doing "Dirty" shows? i totally liked 1992 better than 1988 if we're gonna be honest.

so nobody's clammoring for "experimental jet set" shows?

why does everyone hate that album?

How about they just do shows where only Lee sings?

Another disgruntled taper, wow what a cliche. That too has been going on since 1988, no wait even before 1984 when the Dead finally put up a taping section. Tapers provide great stuff (especially when they let out a patch), but man do they have egos. Get over it nyctaper, we've heard this rant before.

I too would actually be more psyched to hear the entirety of Dirty played, as much as I really love Daydream. The Dirty tour back in 1992 has been unmatched for me. Sonic Youth, Pavement and Polvo. It was an indie rock wet dream. Sometimes you get lucky to come of age at the right time.

Oh and I also feel like Experimental Jet set is underrated.

pretty much every sonic youth record other than Daydream Nation is underrated. except maybe a thousand leaves

I don't understand, is he supposed to be allowed to get into the show for free so he could tape it?? And then he whines when he couldn't get in? I mean, if he had a ticket he could have just gone to the show anyways, right?

he had a ticket, he left because they wouldn't allow him to bring his recording equipment in (which is most likely a small DAT recorder & a couple small mics that clip onto his hat. not a giant boom mic and a reel to reel or anything). why is everyone assuming he was trying to get in for free?

My bad. Still, I'd be very very surprised if this is the first time this has happened to him (not being able to tape a show b/c of whatever-crazy reason, in this case not getting through the entrance).

Why are so many people talking about this taper guy and not the concert itself?

I wish I could've seen this show anywhere but Brooklyn. You uptight yuppies really know how to make a live rock experience suck. SY sounded great, though, almost as good as when my mommy took me to see them opening for Neil Young and Crazy Horse way too many years ago.

thought the show was awesome. have seen SY 15 times or so, this may have been the best.

the nyc taper situation reminds me of the time Rerun got caught bottlegging that Doobie Brothers show

i taped hippiefest if anyone wants a copy of that.
i missed the Moody Blues though, so if you have a copy of "nights in white satin", i'm willing to pay big bucks.

When bands need to do one of their classic albums in its entirety on tour, that is not a good sign. Sonic Youth? More like Sonic Old! Sonic Old! They are not young, they are old!

I have a tape of Elton John hits taped from the radio if anybody is interested.

I will pay you Tuesday for that tape and a hamburger today.

i was at hippiefest! i have a tape version of the moody blues entire set. i will trade for a copy of the sonic youth show. lets talk.

Wow so much stink flying around and i know it sort of ages me a little but so funny to see people saying how this was the best sonic youth show they have ever seen(what have you seen? like 4 shows total hahaha) or how lucky you were to see the dirty tour in 92. Firstly, you should all be sad nyctaper didnt get in. His recordings are stellar and you would all be downloading this one right now instead of yapping against him on here. He has a legit gripe. This guy has been around a while and knows what he is doing. He goes through the proper channels and this time he got screwed and it looks like it was by the people who agreed ahead of time. That is just not cool and he has a legit beef. And yes as stated above, the guy buys a ticket to the show dummies. It is odd though cause SY have been taper friendly for many many years. Id love to find out what really happened.
Also, to bats inc who posted on his blog. Please die you fucking schmuck. I am not from Williamsburg but your incessant stereotyping of the people there was so dopey. Plus you are an idiot who got it wrong about the slits set. There are only 3 original members in the group now champ not the "4 50 year olds" you speak of. And haha you are taping on cassette. It probably sounds as lame as the shaky crappy youtube videos you posted. You sit there and crap on the crowds at the shows yet you are one of the annoying fuckers these days with your damn camera trying to film shows and blocking other people's view. Which is probably the worst thing in concert going these days.

That all being said, it was a great great show. No way was it the show of the summer or year and certainly not the best sonic youth show I have seen. Not by far. But rarely have i seen them play a bad show. There were a lot of special moments in the show though like the enourmous love Lee got for his songs which doesnt usually happen. He looked so happy that night and it was fun to see his son run out on stage. If you have ever seen Lee around town with his son you know he is a really amazing hands on father. Steve drummed his ass off. All in all they paid great service to an amazing record.

so you wanna trade thh daydream nation show for the moody blues? i'm down. my email is: rerun@rerunsconcerttapings.org

I taped the Sonic Youth show using a Tascam 3800 strapped to my stomach. Thanks Steve Shelly for making this happen!

can you meet me in the first stall of the men's room at tompkins sq. park? i'll bring my tape of hippiefest, as well as my tapes of tommy james and the shondelles

I'm starting to feel like BV throws in flame-bait like this just to keep the message boards active. This guy's whiny rant got more inches than the review of the show! Who cares?!

What I wanna know is: how were the Slits? I loved them at Syrup Room last year, but unfortunately I missed the boat on this show.

I got a tape of the SY show. Anyone want to trade for the show KISS did as a trio, since Paul Stanley was ill?

I taped the Slits on Satuday night! (With all 4 original members). Contact me at slitstaper@cassettebootlegs.info

i don't meet random guys in men's room stalls to trade tapes. email me if you're serious, hippie. I really need that Moody Blues set on tape. I will throw in TV on the Radio from the next day.

"They’re tired old hacks anyway. 1988 is over" nyctaper you are an asshole! And BV why even post what this jerk has to say? Show was cool. Sould have been louder however. Rather Ripped songs were rather dull. Typical Brooklyn crowd. Looking bored while texting everyone they know to tell them they are at a really cool show. No one metioned The Slits, a great band from back in the day. They were pretty cool and a great choice for an opener.

hey data,
my version of the SY show is on cassette (which I hid under my shirt). you used reel to reel? we need to trade.

Hey, Rerun. I've got that Moody Blues @ Hippiefest. Plus I have that secret Yeah Yeah Yeahs show from last week and GZA performing Liquid Swords at Pitchfork. Call me!

well i only have access to a computer for the next 10 mins as the guy who left his place at the computer here at burger king got up with mins left on his browser. i don't have a phone either.
if you want the moody blues tape, you need to meet me in the mens room tonight at 8 pm.

hey hippie,

can we meet at a diner or restaurant? i'll buy you a coke, you seem broke as all hell! i'll give you the Daydream Nation show, TV on the Radio, and a Steely Dan show all on cassette for you. what do you think?
meet me at shirley's place tonight at 8 pm/

the burger king downtown on broadway?

Do you have any Doobie Bros shows on tape, Rerun? Where is Shirley's Place? In the East Village?

hey rerun,

Sounds great, I'll bring my MP3 disc of every performance from Live Earth.

Hey! Meeting in the men's room stall to "trade concert tapes" is a sin! Jesus loves you, BUT HE WILL NOT FORGIVE YOU!

NYCTPAPER...so if the email was cc'd to Lee, what was his response? Did he even respond saying you could tape? who sent you this email in the first place? That's who you should be mad at...your unreliable source putting "words" into Lee and Aaron's mouths.

But hey, your recount of your experience says all it needs to say, and quite loudly. You are a petty and bitter fan when things don't go your way.

NycTaper-Sounds like Lee Ranaldo was BCC'd on that email...haha

Also, Mark Ibold rules!

i was the guy who first posted his rant on the sy message board 2 days ago, and believe me i had lot of second thoughts about posting it there.

but whatever, if you want to see more stuff including the pic of the setlist just check it out here: http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/showthread.php?t=15107

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3Lb7Y4_zYk

if anyone actually does have any of the tapes they're boasting, they should upload them at one of these sites

www.bootcity.org
www.thetradersden.org

or if you're all full of shit, give up, the joke's over.

Daydream Nation is the most important indie/alt-rock album ever.
It's certainly not the biggest selling, nor is it probably even the best. However, it quietly guided the direction of alt-rock when hair-bands ruled and everyone thought alt/college rock only meant REM.
Every show I go to today, from Arcade Fire to Tokyo Police Club to just about every alt-rock band featured on this site owes a debt of gratitude to SY.
I've been to hundreds of live shows but watching them perform this album live in it's entirety might be the most significant moment in my concert lifetime.
The hairs stood up on the back of my neck for the entire show. It's why I go to shows. I loved and cherished every second of it.

FrixFrixFrix, you caught me. I apologize.

anybody gonna tape the doobies this weekend?

When is the Doobies show from, Rerun?

I have plenty of Doobies tapes, FrixFrixFrix, from 1978-2007. I'm going to Skunk's private party this weekend in the Hamptons? I wasn't invited but I'm gonna do it paparazzi style.

1988

1988

Wow Rerun you are a trooper. Are the Doobies scheduled to perform? I'd love a tape of that if you get it.

Why were you lying about a tape trade?

I really do have the SY show, but those sites are ones I stay away from, I do not like their policies. Too exclusive.

I have Pavement from 1992, University of Pittsburgh, Gary on drums. Who's interested. PS. I will not be posting this show on one of those sites.

Well FrixFrixFrix, I believe only 3 of the original Doobies will be there. Let's hope they all jam so I can catch a piece of history on cassette!

Do you have an email I can reach you at Frix?

Oooh Pavement. Let's trade. You wanna do 2 Doobies, the Sonic Youth Daydream Nation show (minus Eric's Trip, the recorder fell out as I was gawking at Thurston's drumstick virtuosity), and TV on the Radio for your Pavement show Frix?

Hey Rerun, my email is : frix@nyctaper.com.

So Pavement for Doobies (one from 1981 and the Skunk party if you can get it), SY, and TVOTR?

Yes, and I'll through in O'Death from Sound Fix last week.

"throw" in O'Death. Sorry, I'm working on several other trades right now.

Somebody is pretending to be me! Please stop! I am an honest, hard working, show taper, and I don't need this right now. Anyone who has a beef with taping shows, contact me:

Frix@nyctaper.com

No way, I am the real Frix! Stop pretending to be. I don't work for nyctaper, or any organization. Please leave me alone!

Come on Frix, admit it. You are nyctaper!

anyone wanna trade for the Sonic Youth show?

I am the real Frix!

Rerun's tapes SUCK, FrixFrixFrix. I have the largest collection of Doobies bootlegs this side of the old Polo Grounds. Deal with me, I will help you out.

Stop pretending to be me, this is so uncool.

SaySaySay, what era Doobies do you have?

Ah, of course I'm a whiny little bitch with a large ego and a disproportionate sense of importance. I have a blog afterall.

Love the comments, and of course the hits this is generating. Too bad this silly rant is generating an exponentially larger amount of attention than the actual recordings on my site.

Anyone wanna buy a once-played used copy of the 2-CD deluxe edition of DN really cheap?

IngramCena,

I agree, some of their rules are a bit strict and unnecessary in my eyes, but they do provide a lot of quality material. at least they're not as bad as I've heard dimeadozen is.

will you be making your tape available anywhere?

P.S. Hi 3:47 me, I must've dozed out there for a tick. Who's Pavement?

Je suis Chez Napoleon ! Je ne peux pas être défait ! J'ai une collection superbe de bandes ! Arc vers le bas à moi maintenant !

Yes, I'll be selling the Pavement bootleg at 3 Ave. and St Marks. The Doobie Brother's will be onsale at 5th Ave. and 22nd. And I just got this in, The Mountain Goats @ Irving Plaza at that Daily Show 10th Anniversary thing. This will be on sale at Bedford and North 5th St.

well, that was fun

Who is the real Frix? I am having a nervous breakdown!

Je suis Napoleon! Je suis NYCtaper!

Where have all my imposters gone? Time for their shift waiting tables at Teddy's perhaps? Too bad. They'll all miss the Mingus Big Band in Washington Square Park tonight.

Don't worry, I'm sure rerun will have a tape waiting for you in the bathroom at Studio B.

I am SPARTACUSSER! FUCK FUCK FUCK!

Guys I am not mad at you all for making fun of me, but I am still mad at Sonic Youth for not letting me tape their show. Taping shows is more than a livelihood for me, it gives me a personal sense of satisfaction and self worth. don't hate the player, hate the game.
I have taped Sonic Youth, Beck, TV on the Radio, the Smiths, the Doobie Brothers, and this is the kind of disrepect I have to put up with? Get real guys, if it wasn't for people taping shows like me, music would cease to exist. Some people have a guitar, I have a TASCAM. Deal with it,

Love,
Frix

bored

This is a funny little exchange, but leave frix alone, he's not me.

If you want to continue to rag on me, visit my site and post directly into the topic there. Someone here did just that, cutting and pasting exactly what they wrote here. I expect you guys to use a little more imagination than that.

Oh, and the hits. This silly rant has generated more hits in the last 6 hours than the last three months with the 2 White Stripes, Wilco, Fiery Furnaces, Richard Thompson, 2 Roger Waters, Sugarcubes, and Dinosaur Jr. recordings combined.

And the downloads are free, as most of your know. No one is selling anything, so there's no "bootlegging" involved. Flame away!

Rerun? Want to meet me in the men's room at Teddy's to pick up your Moody Blues cassette from Thursday night? Come by in about an hour, my wait service shift starts then. I gotta walk over from Union Ave. so I gotta leave soon.

WHOOOOOOOOO! WHOOOOOOOOOOO! To be the man- you've gotta beat the man! And STING! I- AM- THE- MAN!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

excuse me, Rerun, but I have an email cc'd to Michael McDonald, specifically asking me to tape "What A Fool Believes." This time go easy on the popcorn, it screws with the bass.

5:39 me,

hahahahahahaha

see you later

I think this thread has lost it's focus.
This was an unbelievable set of one of the most important albums by one of the best alt-rock bands ever.
Review/more pics here:
http://mybigmouthstrikesagain.blogspot.com/2007/07/sonic-youth-mccarren-park-pool-72807.html

GREAT album but a mediocre show in 1988 and even more boring in 2007. Believe what you will but I gotta say, for all their ups & downs, SY's great strength was ** moving forward **.

This was by the #s crap; like Hendrix resurrected compared to nonsense like the the "one-time-only" (right, assholes) Slint reunion, sure but... how many good-to-excellent NEW records are there? not sooo many but more than enough that foolosh trips down memory lane like this aren't an embarassment.

Sonic Youth was awesome. Daydream Nation is amazing. Kim, Thurston and Lee still have it. NYCTaper?

nyc taper- its ranaldo, not renaldo. ok, you corrected it now, i see...

and btw- just to clarify, did you post on the sy message board in the last month looking for a ticket to this gig? i seem to remember you or another taper looking for a ticket but now i cant find that post, it might have been deleted.

and on your website you do ask for donations to your pay pal account and for tickets to shows. i can dig that though, times are tough...

It was another taper who was looking for a ticket. I bought mine months and months ago. The girl who bought my ticket for face outside the door 10 minutes before the show was pretty happy though.

I pay for all of my tickets, but sometimes people make specific requests to ask me to tape bands and buy me the ticket or get a guest list pass.

I also pay for the bandwidth to be able to host unlimited lossless (i.e. huge files) downloads. Donations, click-through ads, and commission ads don't even come close to meeting the bandwidth costs. The site operates at a loss, but that's no problem--that's not why the site exists.

goodnight, and good luck.

nyctaper, there is a likely reason why you were not allowed to tape the concert. there are rumors that sonic youth is planning on making a live daydream nation dvd. to do that, they have been videotaping shows and have also likely been taping the soundboards. if they plan on releasing the material, why should you be taping it?

god bless the tapers

Presale for Thurston's solo shows at Maxwell's and Music Hall started today at noon. Regular onsale is Friday.

nyctaper apologized.
http://www.nyctaper.com/?p=54