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Old Time Relijun @ Silent Barn, NYC - Oct 31, 2007 (CRED)
Old Time Religum @ Silent Barn

Hello friends, lovers, enemies of the Silent Barn,

SILENT BARN needs your help!

ConEdisonAs some of you may know, Silent Barn is an all ages performance / art / work / living space in beautiful Ridgewood, Queens. We've had a good run so far, hosting shows and events for a wide variety of groups, having extreme fun the whole time, and we'd like to continue that onward and into the unforeseeable future. But here's the catch: we just found out that we lost our appeal of a suit with ConEd, and are receiving notices daily that we owe them back power bills for the power used by the previous residents of the space, to the tune of almost $7,000 with interest. OUCH. We are reaching out to our community for help and ideas, because if we don't come up with the money soon, ConEd will send some sort of federal official to shut off the power, effectively ending Silent Barn for good.

moneySo, we are writing to you, dear friends, to ask for help. Have you played here before? Would you want to do it again as a benefit for the house? Have you been here before? Keep on coming! Do you have high powered rich friends who give out handouts to those in need? We want friends like that! And so on, and so forth.

Spaces like the Silent Barn are ultimately a community effort, and while this problem isn't exactly uncommon, it is still very real. We do our best to host and promote events of the highest caliber, and hopefully we as a community can keep it going. Please get in touch if you have ANY ideas that will help us work this whole mess out. We are down to do almost ANYTHING to keep the space healthy and alive, especially in these cold winter months.

Thank you forever.
xo Silent Barn

ps: if anyone has a cat that needs a home, we'd love to replace our dear departed Noodles, who has moved on to better times (in a cleaner apartment).

Also, Todd P is taking a break...
so I'm takin it a little easy for the next few months - you won't see a lot of shows from me while I take a substantial break & work on some other projects for awhile.

I'll still be around to tell you guys about great shows here & there though! [Todd P]

Thursday, November 29th @ DEATH BY AUDIO

:: Ex Models
:::: the Deathset
:::::: Marnie Stern
:::::::: Teeth Mountain

49 S 2nd St btwn Wythe & Kent | Williamsburg, Brooklyn
L to Bedford, JM to Marcy, G to Metropolitan | 8pm | $8 | ALL AGES
-- MYSPACE -->



Comments (41)

i have to say todd p certainly works hard for little or no reward.

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 11:26 AM

todd 4 life

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 11:27 AM

what will the thriving scene do with no todd p? bless you, todd.

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 11:43 AM

Where are all those bands going to play without Todd?

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 11:48 AM

well deserved break, though couldn't he leave it in the hands of his capable interns or extended posse?

Posted by chris | November 27, 2007 11:53 AM

I am a resident of RIdgewood, Queens and proud to be one. The neighborhood remains safe and well controlled thanks not only to the brutal 104th precint but also all the wiseguys and mafioso who make sure it remains safe and well manicured for our children. These guys do not cause problems or damage the neighborhood unlike the so called gangsters like the bloods, crips and latin kings who destroyed my neighborhood of East New York, Brooklyn growing up. Yeah they're reputed gangsters but they only cause harm to one another if it's called for unlike these street gangs who in fact inflict harm to innocent civilians like women and chilldren daily with robberies, assaults, rapes, and murders. So in a way I'm also proud to have these alledged gangsters surrounding me in my neighborhood.

Posted by abeonez | November 27, 2007 12:01 PM

Let me get this straight:

The previous residents/business owners of the building (whoever they were) welched out on ConEd and now the current residents (silent barn) have to pick up the tab?

I don't follow, can someone explain that to me? I know deadbeats get a break in this city, but this is borders on retarded.

Posted by hoobajoob | November 27, 2007 12:20 PM


Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 12:21 PM


Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 12:28 PM

I'm sure the ridiculousness of charging loft dwellers commercial electric rates has something to do with this. It's more than double the residential rate!

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 12:39 PM

pretty classy that, even though the SBarn is having trouble with cashflow, they're still hosting a killer benefit this weekend - not for themselves, but for Steve Trimboli from Goodbye Blue Monday's cancer treatment.

Everyone helping everyone else out in the world of farflung diy venues!

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 12:45 PM

Something tells me we're not getting the whole story with this Con Ed business...

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 1:06 PM

This happens a lot in NYC..usually the current tenants + Con Ed can settle for a vastly lower $$ or just get it wiped out altogether, since Con Ed is partly at fault for not doing anything about it earlier. There's got to be more to that story, maybe the Con Ed has been billed under the previous tenants' names the whole time & the current tenants never changed it? Or some other crazy reason. Regardless, I'd hate to lose Silent Barn.

Posted by Lars | November 27, 2007 1:29 PM

Silent Barn puts on great shows and the energy of the shows there is unmatched. It'd be horrible to see it go.

Posted by Dave Park | November 27, 2007 3:04 PM

the silent barn is a collective house with revolving tenants.

it's one of those situations where, yes, they probably could have been more organized and switched the bill over, etc, but it would not have been easy and it's certainly too late now.

ConEd is going to shut off the juice if it doesn't get paid and there's not a lot of negotiation you can do when the bill's that high.

They shut off the power, then negotiate with you.

If the power gets shut off at the Barn with a $7000 bill or whatever it is, that place is done as a venue.

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 3:54 PM

we shall overcome, we just need some help from any/everyone who wants to see things continue!


and as for the Interns throwing shows w/o Todd;
Yes, but we're busy as hell with school and SHOWPAPER!

but indeed big shows will still happen in the next few months, especially by way of Barn benefits, can bet your backissue collection of SHOWPAPER on that!

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 4:07 PM

I'm sorry but Todd P is a little baby compared to what Sean Agnew does in Philly.....

list of shows he's done since 1996

He's just incredible

Posted by sorry | November 27, 2007 11:22 PM

^Sean Agnew is great, and has done absolutely amazing things in Philly, but I don't really think that should take anything away from what Todd P is doing. Their situations are different as well, so it's not as simple as comparing them because they both "put on shows."

Posted by Anonymous | November 27, 2007 11:51 PM

This is really apples to oranges. Sean Agnew puts on shows that are the same size as the shows Todd P does.

It's just that in Philly, putting on 100-300 person shows means doing the same bands Bowery Ballroom or Irving Plaza would do here, except here it's for 500-1000 people. It's more wide open in Philadelphia.

Sean and R5 are impressive for getting big-head industry bands to work outside of Clear Channel.

But Todd P pulls out the same numbers of audience for unknown bands that Sean does for big indie rock bands. That's also pretty impressive. Plus the big festivals and marathon shows Todd throws are epic - and he's got a crazy track record of working with bands who later on got huge, back when they were nobodies.

here's Todd P's archive for the last several years:

Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2007 12:06 AM

just an idea, if they cut the juice, look for a lamp post or something nearby. You can get the juice out of that, open the access panel and you can connect there. I've seen it done before. Sorry if this is too obvious a solution.

Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2007 9:56 AM

unfortunately ironic name.

Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2007 10:55 AM

good luck charm name, protecting them from noise complaints for years. maybe they should work some of that reverse psych on con ed and change the name to barn of darkness.

Posted by jz | November 28, 2007 1:38 PM


Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2007 4:59 PM

Ok... we get it. Todd P is a genius and a savior because he asks bands to play at dive bars or lofts.

Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2007 6:01 PM


Posted by Anonymous | November 28, 2007 6:24 PM

6:01 - I agree! What kind of an insult is it that that fucking SHITHOLE, you know what Im talking about, that fucking disgrace to community that is DEATH BY AUDIO is allowed to hold shows? Todd and all the bands that play there should be fucking ashamed of themselves that they actually charge people money to put up with that dump. It really is a fuck you middle finger to the music fans.


Posted by Anonymous | November 29, 2007 2:39 PM

wow man, calm down.

It's nice that you feel strongly about something, but you know, a lot of people actually really like Death By Audio.

Worst places to see a show in Williamsburg? that list would have to include Trash Bar and Rocky's - with Supreme Trading and Matchless and Spikehill and the Charleston not far behind.

Death By Audio, while not great, is certainly a huge step up from any of those insults to the music scene.

Posted by Anonymous | November 29, 2007 4:19 PM

what? Matchless with their open mike shows and no name bands? Surely you are kidding making that comparison. Matchless is a great bar btw.

As for Death By Audio, I would be embarrased to be the owner, or promoter or a BAND and ask my fans to come to this place and charge as much money as places like Knitting Factory, Cake Shop, Mercury Lounge charge. EMARRASED and ASHAMED. But I guess the few extra bucks they are clearing with the lower overhead, they figure fuck it.

Posted by Anonymous | November 29, 2007 6:24 PM

dude, you're all alone on this hate thread here, with your CAPITALISED points and undue vitriol towards a very decent club with good booking all the time.

Posted by Anonymous | November 29, 2007 6:48 PM

the average show at Mercury Lounge costs 10 to 12 bucks. Most shows at Knitting Factory are around 9 or 10. Death By Audio shows are usually 6 or 7 dollars. Death By Audio is a lot cheaper.

Posted by Anonymous | November 29, 2007 6:58 PM

^Agreed. What's the matter Anon 3:39/6:24? COULDN'T GET YOUR BAND BOOKED AT DEATH BY AUDIO OR SOMETHING?

Posted by Anonymous | November 29, 2007 7:00 PM

ah sorry, just forgot to take my medication. NVM

Posted by Anonymous | November 30, 2007 8:37 AM

Famous Friends host the first SILENT BARN BENEFIT DANCE PARTY!!!
We bring you the awesomest DJ's eva
OCDJ(, Adventure(baltimore), RAGE Mountain(NYC), Bradley D(NYC)
$5/Free Sparks! Cheap Drinks all night!
And help Save The Barn!!

Posted by ruthless of famous friends | November 30, 2007 10:25 AM

Lets not just give up, use big huge CANDLES instead! Screw Coned, those guys are the worst power company ever.
Or...being that many of Todd's helpers/compatriates are those *rich kids* (they make that clear themselves a lot of times when you talk to them) that'll pay 90 bucks for some organic hair gel, THEY could shell out some of their damn money?! eh? eh? if they wanna still play

Posted by tanya, tamika, sharon, karen | December 4, 2007 12:39 PM


Posted by diehipster | December 4, 2007 4:08 PM

Trash Bar isn't a bad place to see a show. Sound is decent and there's an open bar every night. It's just that the bands always suck.

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2007 4:35 PM


im so sad reading this i could cry. why don't we all just donate $100 and the problem will be solved!

Posted by redpepper | December 6, 2007 5:21 PM

todd p's interns / helpers are the same slumming it college kids as everybody else who goes to indie rock shows in Brooklyn - they ain't richer than the average bear.

Posted by Anonymous | December 6, 2007 5:31 PM

why would anyine who runs a site called be following a thread on Brooklyn Vegan. It's a "hipster" website, dumbshit!

Posted by Anonymous | December 6, 2007 5:40 PM

so did you mail your check yet, 5:21?

Posted by Anonymous | December 8, 2007 12:54 PM

12:54 - Yes, I did. Thanks for reminding me.

Posted by Anonymous | December 12, 2007 9:16 PM

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