cat power should never play a venue like that again...the sound was awful, which basically made the show awful. it's hard to get anything positive out of a show when the people are screaming things like "we can't hear you" between songs. there was offensive feedback through the whole show which made her really awkward. i felt bad for her.

what a miserable venue. that was definitely my last visit to terminal 5

i say boycott that hell hole

terminal jive

I'm sure they will really miss you, Russ.

I think there's a certain contingent of BV posters that wait for posts about shows at Terminal 5, and having not even been at the show or ever been to the venue, post that they think the venus is awful and they're never going back.

Anon 10:01am
With each new show at Interminable 5, more and more people like "Russ" emerge. Pretty soon they will start missing people like him.

should we boycott that fake mole too?

Well, to me it does sounds like Anon at 9:29AM was at the show. And I think comments on BV about the merits (or otherwise) of a venue are invaluable. With tickets, booking fees, etc. going up all the time it's useful to know whether your experience of a show is going to be tainted by a shitty venue. Keep the Terminal 5 comments coming, perhaps someone connected to the venue will actually listen if people kick up enough of a stink about it.

Anon 10:05 very true!

i didnt go last night, but did see mars volta there. heard lots and lots of bad things beforehand, but obviously went in with an open mind and tried to enjoy the show. it was impossible. between not being able to see, terrible sound, unable to walk around.. the list goes on. in this case, believe the hype: terminal 5 sucks.

Who was the cute French woman who opened? I could hear her. The sound for Cat Power was a nightmare. Constant feedback the entire show. They finally turned her vocals up so I could hear them 3/4 of the way through the show.

That was bad. Great songs ruined by shit sound and an underwhelming band.

Apaloosa's shorts were the highlight.

vocals up? that was the prob- more like treble DOWN!

bad venue choice by her booker- she is not meant to play in big venues. her voice is soft and needs acoustics not drowning pits of open hall.

also she is know for leaving the stage- not just when sound is wack.

all in all- i want my 40 bucks back.

i want my MTV

agreed. show sucked. did i miss anything by leaving early? how did the show end?

show ended by her give out roses to the audience and throwing more free t-shirts...

i felt like i was at the damn ice capades!

"I think there's a certain contingent of BV posters that wait for posts about shows at Terminal 5, and having not even been at the show or ever been to the venue, post that they think the venus is awful and they're never going back."

Either that or the venue really is that bad.

Terminal 5 = Terminally ill

Wow what a mess last night the Cat Power show was! It was my 1st time @ the Terminal 5 and my last. Due to the reported bad views, militant security guards and the horrible, did I say horrible . . . sound made Wednesday night's concert headline "Chan of the Dead!" Por Chan . . . she gave it her best but T5 #@#ed her. Bands please do not play this horrible venue! Move the Nick Cave show to a better venue!

PS: Chan please play some solo stuff in your set with you on guitar and or piano. Add some dynamics to your show. The band thing gets old. Mix it up your a musician too. Just a thought! Miss seeing you with a guitar strapped on.

oh she does play an instrument? i just thought i was fooled by her records and she was talentless.

as much as the show sucked last night i would like to know the setlist...left after song for bobby, still love her, will never go back to terminal 5 again.

DEFINITELY boycott the fake mole. she was much hotter when she had shorter hair and performance anxiety

closed with willie. didn't stay for encore.

First and last time to Terminal 5. I had heard rumors that it sucked, but it's worse than that. It's difficult to get to. The sightlines and acoustics are horrid. But more importantly, I felt awful for Chan and DDB. For an artist who has struggled so mightily with personal and professional issues and who seems to really be turning a corner in her career, it was a shame that Terminal 5 let everybody down so completely.

Also, does anyone agree that an improved Cat Power live experience should involve more dates, smaller venues, a quieter band, and letting Chan play the guitar to calm her manic stage presence? I guess I wanted to hear her voice last night and am still bitter that the bass and keys totally drowned it out. Fire the sound-guy, indeed.

For what it's worth, both "Tracks of my Tears" and "Could We" were highlights. Chan and DDB made a noble effort, but you could tell that they were getting frustrated too.

I'm calling fist fight at the DBT show in late march.

Horrible venue. Been there three times, hated it each time. I'd like to say I'll never go back, but I just got tickets to the PLUG awards. That might be the last time I go. And no they won't miss me, but they will miss 2,000 of me.

setlist:

"New York, New York"
"Ramblin' (Wo)man"
"Don't Explain"
"I Believe in You"
"Aretha, Sing One For Me"
"Lost Someone"
"Silver Stallion"
"Woman Left Lonely"
"Lord, Help The Poor & Needy"
"Metal Heart"
"The Moon"
"Where is My Love"
"The Greatest"
"The Tracks of My Tears"
"Could We"
"She's Got You"
"Naked, If I Want To"
"Song to Bobby"
"Dark End"
"Willie"
-----
"Lived in Bars"
"I've Been Loving You Too Long"

"I think there's a certain contingent of BV posters that wait for posts about shows at Terminal 5, and having not even been at the show or ever been to the venue, post that they think the venus is awful and they're never going back."

Maybe I've been there, maybe I haven't...I'll form an opinion based on popular thought rather than actual fact or experience.

ps - Terminal 5 is the WORST!!!

pps - I've never been there :(

There have been numerous shows at Interminable 5 up to this point. After all of them there are tons of negative comments about the venue. When will the "it is coming from people who have not even been there" replies stop. It is starting to look a bit silly.

terminal 5 is a fine venue if you don't want to hear or see the band

It's the Bowery Presents people who leave the "it is coming from people who have not even been there" comments.

Right on, 11:02. Terminal 5 would be a fine dance club. It would have a DJ spot, lounge area, multi-levels, and a totally random empanada stand in a corner on the third floor -- it would be perfect! Nothing says mid-90s rave scene like a beef empanada. But I would advise bands not to play there if they care at all about sonic integrity.

Anon 11:08pm it WAS a dance club. A number of dance clubs. That is the problem. It was built for that and not for concerts.

Well it pretty much sucked when it was a club too, so is anyone really surprised? Though, to be fair, that was more to do with the crowd than the acoustics.

But anyway, I have seen two shows in this newest incarnation and both were worse because of the venue. Actually I should say I heard two shows there, I couldn't see shit. Not that Justice had anything actually worth 'seeing' but you get the point.

i was there. worst show i've seen in new york, sound was atrocious, i don't blame cat power or her band nec, but at same time feeling a bit ripped off. thanks bowery presents.

The name of the French band was :

Appaloosa

Appaloosa Myspace :
http://www.myspace.com/intimate

I'm a FOH engineer for a band that's mentioned frequently on this blog. We did a show at T5 in october and mixing in this venue is very difficult and challenging, due entirely to how cavernous the venue is. That being said, a good engineer should be able to create a mix that is, at the very least, listenable. I didn't attend the cat power show, so I can't comment on how bad or good the sound was. There are many factors involved in creating a great mix...and for the record, yelling "turn up the vocals!" doesn't help anything and if you understood what's going on at FOH, you'd understand how pointless your complaints are. Anything you don't like about a mix, the FOH probably also heard far before you did, and is trying his best to fix it.

I wish you'd understand how pointless your post is.

I was posting about this show under another thread (where there are more comments)

what a depressing night--forget the money, I just want my evening back (I thought the opening act was very bland, boring) and didn't appreciate waiting and waiting to be really frustrated at not being able to hear her voice on songs I love (she's a great artist... this was an insult...)

Let's be honest: the sound, and sight lines, and everything else you would want from a concert venue are GOOD. If you had been to a show, you'd realize this. I have been to four shows at T5, have always arrived within 30 minutes of the headliner taking the stage, and gotten a great spot to take in the show. The sound has always been very good to excellent. I would much rather see a show at a place like T5 where you have the energy of the crowd than some tiny hole like Bowery Ballroom. I know people won't agree with me on that, and that is fine, but I think if you had a tape of a show at T5 and Bowery, the sound at T5 would surely be better. Also, last night, the roaming waitress at T5 gave my four friends and I free cocktails, out of the blue. She just said they were 'on the house.' We had not even bought any drinks!

Terminal 5 has an empanada stand? If it's true, I'm going to have to catch EITS there.

Is anyone who has been to terminal 5 surprised this show sucked.

I was at this show.

The sound was also the fault of Chan Marshall. If you remember, the band sounded pretty great.

You can't take someone with a whispery, raspy, quiet voice and reinforce it with a full rock band. It just doesn't work.

The feedback was because they were cranking the microphone up because she has such a quiet voice.

Then, when they pulled her vocal out of the monitors to alleviate the feedback, she would whine and bitch about that, going as far as leaving out a verse to go yell at the monitor engineer.

It was a no-win situation for the venue and the singer.

Chan's piss poor diva attitude througout the entire set ruined the show for me. I wish she would give me my money back.

Also, what was with Cat Power's manager standing by the exit telling people to boycott Bowery Presents? Pretty fucking childish.

Dirty Delta Blues: find a new singer.

12:04 - DDB can't find a new singer. The only reason they played a venue the size of T5 is b/c Chan was fronting them.

Anon 12:04:

I don't think the problem was that she was playing with the band... the last 2 times I saw her (McCarren Park & Met Pavillion) w/ the Dirty Delta Blues band, she sounded fine.

Something was just messed up with the mix... which wasn't Terminal 5's fault either. The sound crew dropped the ball, plain and simple.

not surprised but would definitely like to reiterate: SHOW SUCKED, BOYCOTT TERM 5

rocked the shit,

All they really had to do was bring the whole mix down by 25%, to sit evenly with Chan's voice.

But then you'd have a quiet show, and people would still complain.

Hence the no-win.

Are you sure that was Cat Power's "manager"? It was unclear who that dude was and my guess is he wasn't anyone of any importance. Maybe you do know for a fact, but don't spread rumors if you don't

It was a bad choice for her to pay there, but even still, the venue was awful. There is simply no excuse for the feedback with the mics. That is worse than a high school talent show. The place is a cave and a mess. It was my first time there, and I'm fine with all the other bowery venues (even Webster Hall). I think there is a tendency for people on this site to hate on every venue in the city. Most are fine, but Terminal 5 was a shit show from organization to sightlines to stage level to beer choice to lighting to most importantly sound.

Was that CP's manager out there, telling people to call Bowery Presents and complain about Terminal 5?

That fellow outside said he was Chan's "friend," which really means "stalkerish leech."

I actually enjoyed the show. The acoustics weren't great, but I could hear Chan's vocals perfectly fine. Maybe because I was in the pit close to the stage?

Also, the empanadas were AMAZING.

Ok, i hate terminal 5 as much as the next guy, but seriously. If you saw Cat Power last night, its your own fault so quit whining. If she was at a better venue, i would have gone, but i knew Terminal 5 was destined to be a mess.

It is a decent venue for some acts. Justice and Gogol Bordello didn't have trouble getting good sound the when they played there last year.

Bowery is getting agreesive with their new venue, booking bands that shouln'd play there. Eventually they will realize thier mistake, but it doesn't mean that you need 50 posts to complain every time there is a show there.
On the plus side, if you are an alkie like me, its way easier to get drinks there, since the 2nd and 3rd floor bars are almost always relatively empty.

At a show of this size... the BANDS crew is responsible for the sound. If her sound sucks, why would anyone say that is the fault of the venue? Ok... it's a big cavernous room, but that can be overcome with a sound person who knows what they are doing.
Terminal 5 is not the reason why the sound sucked, it was talentless sound people who work for the band.

The best thing about Terminal 5 are the "private" bathrooms. They're great for doing drugs. Best ones are on the 3 floor. Just sayin.

I will never, ever go back to Terminal 5. I left the show early because of the insane feedback, horrible sound, and no sight of the stage possible. The people who designed this place obviously did not understand acoustics. I am glad I was on the guest list and didn't pay the 36 bucks to listen to a bunch of feedback and stare at middle aged hipsters.

but live mics with tons of screeching feedback on almost every song? is that really just the band's fault? i don't anything about this, so maybe you're right.

"but live mics with tons of screeching feedback on almost every song? is that really just the band's fault? i don't anything about this, so maybe you're right."

that is PRECISELY the fault of the band crew.

When you say you can't see (the "sightlines"), what does that mean? The only thing I'm familiar with is a tall person in front of me. I didn't walk around T5, but it looked like Webster Hall (I didn't notice big obstructive things)?

At what point do you all realize that if the 50 or so of you that complain about this place makes no difference....the place holds 3,000 and I think the Bowery could care less if you guys never step foot in that place....i do not even think they would care if you did not step into the merc lounge.
Funny how since day 1 when The National broke in the place shows continually sell out despite your annoying complaints.

"I'm a FOH engineer for a band that's mentioned frequently on this blog."

OMG DO YOU WORK FOR DAFT PUNK???

i saw chan's boobs

girlfriend needs to wear a bra with a shirt like that

Why is it that both times I've gone to Terminal 5 (Against Me! and last night) I've been able to see just fine? I suppose if you get there late and stand way in the back you're going to have trouble seeing - wow, what a shock, standing behind 500 people makes it hard to see. But even if you're way over by the entrance you can actually see pretty well.

The sound last night for Cat Power was rough. But the explanation above about her low vocals and the mic turned way up, etc, seemed pretty reasonable. Everything sounded fine except the vocal/feedback problem. It could be echoey or bottom-heavy in a big cavernous place like that but it hasn't been either time I was there. Like that's the first time there's been a feedback problem at a rock show. Cripes, people. She played through it for 2 hours and that's all you can talk about.

I will bitch about this - they won't let you buy more than 1 drink at the bar. THAT is something legitimate to complain about. Give me a fucking break.

Oh and the opening act sucked. They should have turned her mic completely off.

Ok let's get a few things straight. Those of you saying the sound is the band's fault really have no clue as to sound engineering. At some point and at a place like this it is the acoustics and setup of the venue that has a lot to do with it. That is just a fact and to say otherwise is ridiculous.
This was not a place designed for concerts by Bowery Presents unlike Mercury Lounge or Bowery Ballroom. Even Webster Hall which used to be The Ritz was modeled as a place to have concerts.
This was a number of different DANCE clubs before it became Terminal 5. Dance clubs can be put into a cavern like this. Bowery Presents did very little to change the place when they took it over.

To address the dummy above who says that Bowery does not care who complains and that the shows sell out really has no idea about how the concert business works or how it runs. Yes simple complaining is only a start. They do count on your apathy and the fact that even if you think the place sucks you will still go because it is the only place to see some of these bands. So yes besides complaining you have to start hitting them with your wallet. Avoid going there. As stated above, with each show more and more people see how bad the place is and more people declare they will not go there. Eventually this will affect them and they will get the message but good. Now, just because you hear the shows sell out does not mean they REALLY sell out and the promoters are making a ton of cash. There are such things as ticket buy outs and huge guest lists and giveaways. Not to mention blocks are sold to scalpers. Well when you see shows like last nights and the mars volta for example where scalpers cant even give tickets away, do you think they will continue to buy as many in the future. Believe me they care.

"At what point do you all realize that if the 50 or so of you that complain about this place makes no difference....the place holds 3,000 and I think the Bowery could care less if you guys never step foot in that place....i do not even think they would care if you did not step into the merc lounge."

Not true. 50 turns into 3,000 pretty quickly. Booking agents and promoters find out, refuse to book their bands there, then 50 = 3,000. I'd bet any amount that Cat Power never plays there again.

Well said JD!

Why doesn't everyone just shut the hell up? Congratulations! You have an opinion!

JD,
Many more people than 500 are on the floor. Sightlines are bad having to do with the layout of the place and the fact that the stage is not raised properly. Look at Hammerstein for example. You can stand all the way in the back on the floor and see everything perfectly. A concert should not be a visual experience simply for people who have no life and can stand on line outside for 5 hours before a show to get up close.

It is way easier to see the stage at Terminal 5 than Hammerstein. I have been in the back of the floor at the Hammerstein and that is bad! Balconies in Hammerstein are way better than Terminal 5 though.

Anon 1:22pm you are as wrong as wrong can get. Seriously. Funny you don't hear anyone complaining after shows at Hammerstein about sightlines. Oh yeah i forgot the complainers about Interminable 5 are the same 10 people over and over.

1:26..you obviously never have been on the back of the floor at the Hammerstein.

1:26 Look at these pictures from the back floor and Hammerstein and tell me I am wrong.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhoran/1421997668/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlmikoy/392989147/

I saw Ween at Terminal 5. I lasted 10 minutes because it was way overcrowded and the sound was shit. I vowed never to see a show there again so I missed out on Mars Volta, Cat Power and loads more, it's just not worth it to pay for a bad experience.

my only complaint is about the feedback during Chan's set.
I got in to the venue super fast, checked my coat super fast, and had no problem getting drinks. Empanadas are GREAT too!

I'm just saying, if you stand in the back at a big place, you're going to have trouble seeing. Hammerstein, Roseland, Terminal 5... at none of these places can you stand in the back and see more then the performers' heads. At least at T5 you have the option of that area by the entrance where you can get a decent view, though you'll get jostled by people coming and going and standing in that beer line.

I'm not saying the place is perfect - this one drink per customer thing is BS, especially at a show like Cat Power where the median age is like 35. Plus it's inconvenient as hell. And there was water dripping either in front of or on to the stage last night! But the sound and sightline complaints are non-issues IMO, especially compared to comparable size venues.

"at none of these places can you stand in the back and see more then the performers' heads."

What are you talking about? I've stood pretty far back at Hammerstein and Roseland and have seen the band just fine. The sightlines at Terminal 5 are awful. The stage needs to be much higher. And those poles pinch everyone towards the middle; at Hammerstein you can stand off to the side a little bit and still see. Not so at Terminal 5.

yo.. i've seen several shows at terminal 5... State Radio, Ween, and the cat power show.. all different colors of the rock spectrum - and each time i go i get let down... the sound in that place blows goats... it seems perfect for raves circa 1997, but not to hear Gene and Dene rock it or Cat Powers sexy goddess voice (which usually makes me weak at the knees)

that place sucks ass, but they get some good peeps there

Terrible show. Amateur night all around. Saw The Shins there and the sound was really good. I will never make the Cat Power mistake again.

yes JD, the one drink per customer rule is the real problem, not the shitty sound, uh huh...cause ya know, that's why I pay 35 bucks for a ticket - to have the opprtunity to buy overpriced drinks. who cares about the sound.

i love bowery presents, i do and i love cat power. as well as mars volta and the decemberists and the hives and all of the fantastic bands that keep getting booked there. that being said i will never go to that venue again. it is not because i desire to complain on blogs or boycott bowery...i think they do a stellar job supporting and building bands in this city, much like this website. however you cannot see at terminal five and the sound does not showcase these musicians and artists to the level they deserve. it just doesn't. i am not alone in this feeling. there are a lot of fans throughout the city who i am sure will not go to see some of their favorite artists because they are performing there. sadly, i am one of them. i just know i will end up disappointed and i think people should post about this. i think bowery listens to this site and their fans. hopefully the sound system with either improve or they will find a new venue because as it is now terminal 5 just is not an option for some music fans in the city.

anon 12:59pm -

I didn't think it was possible to fellate a concert venue. You proved me wrong.

Sher...nice summary no name calling and some logic! Good job!

how were the sightlines down chan's shirt?

I heard Eddie Vedder was there!

"she gave it her best but T5 #@#ed her"

More like her crew #@#ed her AND Terminal 5. Feedback is not the venue's fault, the sound is in the hands of the artist's sound engineers.

I heard the entire Cat Power crew was fired after last night's show.

"I heard Eddie Vedder was there!"

Well you sure as shit would not have been able to see if he was

It really kills me that I will not go to see Explosions in the Sky just because of the venue...maybe the venue is why the show is not sold out already...

First time to Terminal 5 for me... and the last.

It haven't heard sound as bad as that since the 1994 High School Band Challenge in Chillicothe, OH.

1) The FOH guy should have been replaced. Regardless of the space or her voice, that shit should not have happened for so long. (They definitely did not take any of the LONG time between sets to to a sound check...)

2) If you're on the ground at T5, it's not horrible, but it's like seeing a show in a railroad apartment... this BS about it being a large but intimate space is just false. And the balconies are great -- if you're at the railing. If you're even one person in you see nothing.

3) Notwithstanding all of that, people who walk out of shows early SUCK, at least in this case. Regardless of the occasional squeaks, she was putting on a good show, and was clearly getting frustrated at the quality she was able to provide under such adverse conditions. The last thing she needs is for her fans to ditch like that. It's just lame -- you knew you were getting packed into a shitty venue with bad sound and you went anyway... don't puss out early and make the scene weird for everyone else.

you people need to remember she accepted this shit hole despite warnings because it paid well.

i thought it sounded fine as far as the room. It was just that Cat Power had shitty soundguys. They could not operate the board.
I think that everything else about Terminal 5 is fine. I get there in time to any show i really want to see so I can get a good spot to watch the show.

"1) The FOH guy should have been replaced. Regardless of the space or her voice, that shit should not have happened for so long. (They definitely did not take any of the LONG time between sets to to a sound check...)"

just because you know to use the term FOH doesn't mean you really know what you're talking about. the "LONG" time between sets is not a "sound check"...it's a "line check" to make sure the patch is correct.

i think the monitors were the main culprit. i was right by the stage and could hear the monitors feedback with a low end howl constantly, (between 160 - 250 hz). if they just wiped those frequencies out of the mixes onstage, there would have been a lot less problems.

"Also, what was with Cat Power's manager standing by the exit telling people to boycott Bowery Presents? Pretty fucking childish."

ha ha...jokes on you. chan doesn't even have a manager.

how about checking your facts before slandering someone?

What time did Cat Power go on?

Almost at 100 posts folks. Just a little more bitching and we're there!

i think what people are saying about the sightlines has to do with the stage being quite low for a venue that is that long. also, unlike at hammerstein and roseland, there is no space in the back. you can hang in the back at a sold out hammerstein/roseland show, but not here. i think this may be due to the fact that no one can go to the balconies because there is no space/sightlines so the floor becomes very crowded. like, crazy crowded.

Yes the monitors are not controlled by the FOH engineer at big venues like that or any ones with a separate monitor board... I think her band played a little too loud at times too...again not really the FOH problem if the onstage sound is too loud.. all these complaints (some very valid ones) aside I was at the show and it looked like to me that there were alot of people there (like 90%) until the very end and most were cheering loudly...so some people must have liked it ? I think the biggest problem with the venue is that they should reduce the capacity..it's really like an Irving Plaza or Webster size room with extra floor yet the capacity twice to three times as big. the distance from the stage to back of the floor was not very deep at all which means they are counting alot of the capacity in the balconies and I don't think thats a good idea...it's weird for such a big music city there isnt one really good large size GA venue... like The Wiltern in LA ..where the floor is open and wide and the balcony is seated..thats ideal and it doesn't really exist in NYC...

Who could stick up for this shit hole? I skipped out on the show, I thougt seeing her at irving was too big for her.

She sold out and is over Big Time..She sold her soul for that Diamond commercial

You're right anon 7:18- CAT POWER'S FOH AND monitor engineers sucked. Still... not the venue's fault.

anybody want my boredoms tickets??? I don't wanna go anymore...thanks BV posters.

I'll take your boredoms tickets for free

Chan is boring and all she cares about is posing for pics instead of performing.

if the band were quieter to fit her vocals....EVERYBODY was talking, that sucked. she was complaining about it between songs in whispered cryptic sentences, and even when lying down said "it's pissing me off."

but i didn't think she was being a diva, with all that pspspspspspsps, felt so bad - she was working hard, trying figure all that shit out while singing and that crowd.

made it a nice show.. to see her keep on through it. like people watching

ALSO
anyone see her dog?
you could see his silhouette at the doors to the downstairs stage before the show started and balcony left side door nearing the end.
that dog was vital.

laughing hilariously at the amatuer "sound engineers" on here who think they know what they are talking about.

laughing hilariously at the idiot who claims Cat Power does not have a manager. You are a fucking schmuck. Of course she has a manager and a booking/touring one as well. Yeah einstein, she handles all her business herself. Dummy.

laughing hilariously at the people who defend this shithole.

You guys are riots. Keep it up.

"laughing hilariously at the amatuer "sound engineers" on here who think they know what they are talking about.

laughing hilariously at the idiot who claims Cat Power does not have a manager. You are a fucking schmuck. Of course she has a manager and a booking/touring one as well. Yeah einstein, she handles all her business herself. Dummy."

Um, it is true Cat Power does not have a personal manager. A tour manager? Yes A booking agent? Yes. A lawyer? Yes. A business manager, (ie: accountant)? Yes. A manager? As is one that pitches marketing and handles everyone working for her and is her representation as an artist? NO.

Also, are you a sound engineer? How many world tours have you done?

The fact that you have to use words like dummy and put people down that you know nothing about...well, that proves you the lowest common denominator then. You did it to yourself buddy.

what time did Cat Power go on?

Anon 11:29am you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. In fact you are talking out of that foolish ass of yours.

"Um, it is true Cat Power does not have a personal manager. A tour manager? Yes A booking agent? Yes. A lawyer? Yes. A business manager, (ie: accountant)? Yes. A manager? As is one that pitches marketing and handles everyone working for her and is her representation as an artist? NO."

You get called a dummy because you are one. Nice try to parse words there. These people you listed handle various things for her and the people working for her and represent her. Yes none of them are called a "personal" manager. So fucking what? It is a title. She has managers who handle these various things for her and any one of them could have been this person outside.

>>>She has managers who handle these various things for her and any one of them could have been this person outside. <<<

so someone who represents her would have been yelling to boycott Bowery Presents outside a venue Cat Power just sold out ? does that really seem likely ? if there was a beef I would think people in that position would find a a way to handle it professionally... how about it was a random nutcase ? wouldn't that seem a little more plausible ? the city is full of them you know... in fact a lot of them post on here !

what time did she go on? is this so hard to answer?

thanks!

he was indeed a random 40-something year old nut-job. In fact, I do believe that he is one of the constant Terminal 5 complainers on BV. I heard him shouting after the show and he was saying word for word some things I've seen posted here.

She went on around 9:40pm and ended around 11:15pm.

Rt,
i don't know who the guy was especially since i was not at the show but i was simply pointing out the fact that she does have people handling her business and marketing etc. Just pointing out how wrong the dude above was saying she does not have a manager.

Syd,
There are plenty of people who complain about Interminable 5. Not just on here. With each show the list grows and grows and new people on here start griping about how bad the place is. There is much agreement as to what is wrong with the place as well so i don't think you can make the connection that what you were hearing is from someone on here.
Nice attempt though.

poop.

What do people think Hot Chip will be like at Terminal 5. Caught them at Highline this past weekend, fantastic show, would love to see them again. I know that it won't match the intimacy and sound quality of a show at a 700 person venue, but i feel because of their style of music (faster, louder, dancier) that some of Term 5's glaring problems will be muted during their performance. Also hoping they will play a longer set than at Highline. Oh and by the way am only referring to the sound problems, I am tall and therefore sight line is not too much of a problem for me. Discuss please

>>>i don't know who the guy was especially since i was not at the show but i was simply pointing out the fact that she does have people handling her business and marketing etc. Just pointing out how wrong the dude above was saying she does not have a manager. <<<

oh you weren't at the show...I see... this gets better..
no matter what you think an actual "manager" is different than all the other people mentioned.... tour manager , booking agent, lawyer, etc and Chan still doesn't have one.. I know this for a fact..
I think thats the point the other person was making (however heavy handed) and the one thing you still won't concede on...

that's not a fake mole
that's ASH WEDNESDAY

nicole, that wasn't cat power's dog. cat power doesn't have a dog. as a matter of fact, i believe that dog was someone who often comments arf arf on this very site about how much t5 blows. shows how much you know about the canine business dummy!

I'm still stewing over last Friday's Cat Power show at Terminal 5! What a rip off, that venue!

The sound problems were disruptive and plain got in the way of my musical enjoyment. I paid them money for my ticket and they did not hold up their end of the bargain.

Not going there again until I hear of a change.

RT
you are such an idiot. You know nothing. Chan has a number of business people who do the work of what usually a personal manager does. She considers them to be her managers. Stop trying to present yourself as someone in the know cause for those of us who ACTUALLY do know you look like a fucking dope. And by the way why do I or anyone else need to be at the show to know what her business set up is?

Pete,
another fucking idiot claiming to know all. Chan in fact does have a dog. Her name is Mona. Go read the latest Rolling Stone interview to see her talk about her dog as well as see the picture of them together. Oh and remember to take the foot out of that big fat know nothing mouth of yours while you are reading.

ahah shit latest anon, that pete crap was a joke. like... a really big one, obvious type. whoooaa

nicolle,
so sorry. I am used to the kind of jokes that are actually funny. That is how i know it is a joke.

middle-aged hipsters = dirtysexier than 20somethings. chan included.

Terminal 5 is a shithole. They ripped everything out of Exit and did nothing to the space...this place should remain a club.

The sound sucked, the layout blows, the administration of the shows licks crusty balls---I will not buy another ticket to a show here, ever.

Stick with the Bowery Ballroom, or even Webster Hall, which has balls-ass sound but is preferable and in a better location than this fucking hole.