I LOVE HILLARY! SHE IS DREAMY...

Wow, is she really for health care? I have to reconsider everything now....

yeah, but i want change...do you know any candidate that offers change? nothing too specific...just a general sort of change...

Lame-o.

There is this guy - sounds like FoFama

make college affordable? that's a lie. how could it even be possible? total bs.

fight global warming? people thing that temperature swings are the result of global warming. it's all bollocks. you can't fight it. it doesn't exist.

end the war? oh yeah, forfeit. she could do that. she should forfeit her race right now though.

now, that's some hand over open mouth, bulging eyes shit right there.

Hillary is a lying piece of crap.
Is she wins the nomination, McCain is gonna be the next prez.

Enough already with nepotism in the white house.

it's time to make it a mocha house.

Hillary rules, Obama drools

someone just posted this on obamas site.. good stuff.

I am the "flip flopper" who would vote for Obama over McCain then flip and vote for McCain over Clinton.

There are policies which Obama supports that hurt my sensibilities. As a father I fell in love with my son long before his birth. I would give my life over his. Sorry, just can't help feeling that way.

But I also know that Barack was 100% right on the Iraq war. As a hunter I know what guns can and can't accomplish. Terrorism is a spiritual (not religious) war. We must win the hearts of the hopeless.

The rhetoric of evil enemy is misguided. We can’t fight our way to victory. As much as Bush/McCain use Germany and Korea as their guiding examples… they are simply wrong. Terrorism is not a state… it is a state of mind. Persuasion is the only strategy. In this war… words do matter!

Hillary and McCain don’t get it. I don’t fault them. They are just politicians.

McCain is an American hero. I deeply respect his service. If the Soviet Union attacks us I hope to God we call on him for guidance (and I am sure he’d be there). But they won’t because there is no “Soviet Union”.

Hillary and Bill do know how to manage. And they certainly thrive on politics. It is the “fun part” for them.

However, terrorism is emotional. Words are sacred. You don’t blow yourself up as a technical matter. You don’t memorize the sacred text for fun.

Obama has shown the capacity for understanding the human spirit. Might sound simple and even ridiculous, but in reality it is the highest level of leadership. He is our greatest hope to alter the internal dialog of the hopeless. And that is where this battle plays out.

This has to be the most condescending appeal for votes I have ever seen.

I agree, Wendy...

Hipster #3: "I was like.... why?"

Hillary do something condescending? that is SO hard to believe. yeah lets put up one of the most divisive figures in politics up for what should be an easy year for the Democrats to win, and just hope for the best, thats the right move.

Wow! She really proved how hip and cool she was with this one.

Maybe they could show her jamming out on Guitar Hero next.

Make college affordable? I spent a semester abroad. Many of the students in my class were from several top European business schools. Their education was fully paid for by the government. Those filthy liberals with their socialism, paying for college educations, and not putting young adults in debt for the next two decades. How dare those filthy liberals do such a thing!

And we are supposed to be the greatest democracy in the world....

Could this be the work of "Hillary’s Hard-Hitting Hipster" Press Secretary Jay Carson??

http://www.observer.com/2007/hillary-s-hard-hitting-hipster?page=0%2C0

"...Mr. Carson, who spends most of his time now in vans and hotels, and reading about 200 pages of clips a day, cast himself as something of a rebel in the khaki world of Washington operatives. He spoke longingly of his airy loft in the Fairway Building in Red Hook, where he currently lives with his bright-eyed and fashionably trim fiancée, who works at Elle magazine. He said that when he picked her up at Prospect Park during a TV on the Radio concert that he attended with his mentor, Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson, “She thought I was an A-and-R guy.” "

Dear Brooklynites,

How did Hilary do so well in your area? Brooklyn was the one area of NY that I expected to support Obama in the primaries.

Could someone shed some light on this?

Sorry, Hillary.

hillary-ous...

"Dear Brooklynites,

How did Hilary do so well in your area? Brooklyn was the one area of NY that I expected to support Obama in the primaries.

Could someone shed some light on this?"

There are quite a few explanations, actually. She didnt do as well as you are leading on. First of all, here is a quote from the New York Times (who support Clinton, unfortunately):

"Mr. Lopez also estimated that in Brooklyn, which Mrs. Clinton barely carried, the results were skewed because record numbers of young, white would-be voters, whom he presumed were Obama supporters, were ineligible because they had registered as independents or were enrolled in the Working Families Party or the Green Party."

Also, I think a lot of the 'Brooklynites' you are referring to are not actually from Brooklyn.

hey M,

Yeah go for it believe that crap about McCain. You are the same jackass who voted for Bush. Really doesn't matter if its Hillary or Obama get the republicans backass politics out of the White House.

"hey M,

Yeah go for it believe that crap about McCain. You are the same jackass who voted for Bush. Really doesn't matter if its Hillary or Obama get the republicans backass politics out of the White House."

You state that with an interesting amount of certainty that you definitely do not have. I did not vote for Bush in 2000 or in 2004, and am definitely not a jackass. The only thing I believe about McCain is that he is an angry, war-hungry man who seems very vengeful for what has been done to him. That long quote i put up there was a very well-put opinion in favor of obama. I think Obama can win, and Hillary cannot. Just trying to shed some light.

Hillary got over a million votes in NY.Enough of this bullshit that she did not do well here.

I wish that Hillary was my moms

"You state that with an interesting amount of certainty that you definitely do not have. I did not vote for Bush in 2000 or in 2004, and am definitely not a jackass. The only thing I believe about McCain is that he is an angry, war-hungry man who seems very vengeful for what has been done to him. That long quote i put up there was a very well-put opinion in favor of obama. I think Obama can win, and Hillary cannot. Just trying to shed some light."

"someone just posted this on obamas site.. good stuff.

I am the "flip flopper" who would vote for Obama over McCain then flip and vote for McCain over Clinton."

My point was this wasn't good stuff and is not shedding light because:

The fact that this guy would vote for McCain over Hillary. What you will need to focus on is that if its Hillary( don't get me wrong I would prefer Obama) vs McCain we need to still push and support Hillary over the angry war monger McCain.
Hillary can beat McCain but its this crap I continue to hear from way too many people that Hillary can't beat McCain and that Hillary is no good and is the same political crap of Bush/McCain. Hillary doesn't believe in the hate and fear beliefs of them nor the give the tax break to the rich. Let alone a million other things that they preach in the wrong direction.

xXsUgAbAbiiXx: OMG!LOL. ~hillz TOTALLY getz us~!
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: i no! like, i totz wanna stop global warming!
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: yehz! and like, FREE college!?? that is so cool!
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: i no! we can like, finally go to FIT and still get our own place in Williamsburg at the same time!
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: u r SO right. i m voting for hillz!
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: me 2!!!!
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: OMG! g2g mah DAD just got home.
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: K, u still goin 2 studio b friday rite?????
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: hellz yehz!!!!

oh good, just what this blog needed, a political on which its eloquent posters can flex a little intellectual muscle. If only there were a way to work Dan Deacon and Terminal 5 into the discourse...

clinton is going bte bye Op-Ed Contributor
The Wiretap This Time

By STUDS TERKEL
Published: October 29, 2007
Chicago

EARLIER this month, the Senate Intelligence Committee and the White House agreed to allow the executive branch to conduct dragnet interceptions of the electronic communications of people in the United States. They also agreed to "immunize" American telephone companies from lawsuits charging that after 9/11 some companies collaborated with the government to violate the Constitution and existing federal law. I am a plaintiff in one of those lawsuits, and I hope Congress thinks carefully before denying me, and millions of other Americans, our day in court.

During my lifetime, there has been a sea change in the way that politically active Americans view their relationship with government. In 1920, during my youth, I recall the Palmer raids in which more than 10,000 people were rounded up, most because they were members of particular labor unions or belonged to groups that advocated change in American domestic or foreign policy. Unrestrained surveillance was used to further the investigations leading to these detentions, and the Bureau of Investigation — the forerunner to the F.B.I. — eventually created a database on the activities of individuals. This activity continued through the Red Scare of the period.

In the 1950s, during the sad period known as the McCarthy era, one's political beliefs again served as a rationale for government monitoring. Individual corporations and entire industries were coerced by government leaders into informing on individuals and barring their ability to earn a living.

I was among those blacklisted for my political beliefs. My crime? I had signed petitions. Lots of them. I had signed on in opposition to Jim Crow laws and poll taxes and in favor of rent control and pacifism. Because the petitions were thought to be Communist-inspired, I lost my ability to work in television and radio after refusing to say that I had been "duped" into signing my name to these causes.

By the 1960s, the inequities in civil rights and the debate over the Vietnam war spurred social justice movements. The government's response? More surveillance. In the name of national security, the F.B.I. conducted warrantless wiretaps of political activists, journalists, former White House staff members and even a member of Congress.

Then things changed. In 1975, the hearings led by Senator Frank Church of Idaho revealed the scope of government surveillance of private citizens and lawful organizations. As Americans saw the damage, they reached a consensus that this unrestrained surveillance had a corrosive impact on us all.

In 1978, with broad public support, Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which placed national security investigations, including wiretapping, under a system of warrants approved by a special court. The law was not perfect, but as a result of its enactment and a series of subsequent federal laws, a generation of Americans has come to adulthood protected by a legal structure and a social compact making clear that government will not engage in unbridled, dragnet seizure of electronic communications.

The Bush administration, however, tore apart that carefully devised legal structure and social compact. To make matters worse, after its intrusive programs were exposed, the White House and the Senate Intelligence Committee proposed a bill that legitimized blanket wiretapping without individual warrants. The legislation directly conflicts with the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution, requiring the government to obtain a warrant before reading the e-mail messages or listening to the telephone calls of its citizens, and to state with particularity where it intends to search and what it expects to find.

Compounding these wrongs, Congress is moving in a haphazard fashion to provide a "get out of jail free card" to the telephone companies that violated the rights of their subscribers. Some in Congress argue that this law-breaking is forgivable because it was done to help the government in a time of crisis. But it's impossible for Congress to know the motivations of these companies or to know how the government will use the private information it received from them.

And it is not as though the telecommunications companies did not know that their actions were illegal. Judge Vaughn Walker of federal district court in San Francisco, appointed by President George H. W. Bush, noted that in an opinion in one of the immunity provision lawsuits the "very action in question has previously been held unlawful."

I have observed and written about American life for some time. In truth, nothing much surprises me anymore. But I always feel uplifted by this: Given the facts and an opportunity to act, the body politic generally does the right thing. By revealing the truth in a public forum, the American people will have the facts to play their historic, heroic role in putting our nation back on the path toward freedom. That is why we deserve our day in court.

oh good, just what this blog needed, a political post on which its eloquent posters can flex a little intellectual muscle. If only there were a way to work Dan Deacon and Terminal 5 into the discourse...

realizing that Hillary most likely decided she wanted to be president in the 70's,

and realizing that Bill was an exceptional PRESIDENT, not husband,

i can't vote for someone who let their spouse publicly walk all over them

if she was a real leader favoring change, she should have left him in the 80's

What time does Hillary Clinton move on?

studs terkel?

Dan Deacon
The Hold Steady
Daft Punk
Nietzsche's bathtub
The death of Kanye's mother
Terminal 5
Nigger (the album)
Graphic Designers
Sufjan Stevens

does this mean the BV supports hillary of just finds the video amusing?

lahipster says: kicked this bitch to the curb
"Not since the Vietnam War has there been this level of disappointment in the behavior of America throughout the world, and I don't think that another incredibly polarizing figure, no matter how smart she is and no matter how ambitious she is — and God knows, is there anybody more ambitious than Hillary Clinton? — can bring the country together," he was quoted as saying.

"Obama is inspirational, and he's not from the Bush royal family or the Clinton royal family," Geffen added.

Geffen was particularly bitter about Sen. Clinton's position on Iraq. "It's not a very big thing to say, ‘I made a mistake' on the war, and typical of Hillary Clinton that she can't.... She's so advised by so many smart advisers who are covering every base.

BV is still pulling for Huckabee...

anyone with the ability to hear knows obama talks just as much shit as anyone... its sad anyone is buying into all his shit

eddie vedder for president!

To be honest, I think it has more to do with the fact that independents can't vote in the primaries in New York. A lot of people who might have voted for Obama were not allowed the chance.

look at clinton and obama's policy. they are VERY similar candidates. to say you're 100% for obama and 100% against clinton is 100% stupid. stop watching the daily show for your political arguments.

that was so fucking lame.

This country is heading downwards and things will not improve in the near future. Whoever wins the general election in November, it will be a pyrrhic victory for that person.

I cannot believe how totally gay everyone remains for Obama. I mean everyone was/is sitting back laughing at the division in the Republican party where the candidates DO differ a bit and now hipsters are backlashing against Hilary who is VERY similar to Obama. Uhg, why can't we just vote for parties like everyone else in the world? Daft Punk does.

just vote for hilary you dumbfucks. you know obama isn't gonna do shit.

About "Hillary being VERY similar to Obama":

That's like saying Paul Anka being VERY similar to Nirvana because they both did a version of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

It's the vibe. Hillary is lame.

Wendy, you imply that there are significant differences between Obama and Clinton, then you say "it's the vibe" (i.e., they give off different 'vibes,' or some 'vibe' is telling you that Obama would be a better president than Clinton)? Wow.

la la la LAME

besides, pantsuits go better with keytars, not guitars... she's got it all wrong - again.

hahahaa! who cares if Clinton isn't "cool" folks - she's running for president, not for social committee chair of the mccarren pool summer concert series.

what really matters is that whoever wrote the below-referenced is hilarious:

"xXsUgAbAbiiXx: OMG!LOL. ~hillz TOTALLY getz us~!
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: i no! like, i totz wanna stop global warming!
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: yehz! and like, FREE college!?? that is so cool!
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: i no! we can like, finally go to FIT and still get our own place in Williamsburg at the same time!
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: u r SO right. i m voting for hillz!
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: me 2!!!!
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: OMG! g2g mah DAD just got home.
UrSeXiAzNpRiNcEsS: K, u still goin 2 studio b friday rite?????
xXsUgAbAbiiXx: hellz yehz!!!!"

HA!

(from M's posting about the obama site quote)

"As a father I fell in love with my son long before his birth. I would give my life over his. Sorry, just can't help feeling that way."

If you were a superhero, you'd be known as Super-Preconception-Incestuous-Republican-Man.

ron Paul revolution

Just in case anyone was wondering... it isn't relevant to her campaign... but her singing voice is purely awful! Listen to her here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bfZ_gXCHaMw

If Eddie Vedder beats Daft Punk for the nomination, I'm gonna vote for Vampire Weekend.