Posted in NYC | music on March 6, 2008

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Creative Tube Bending

Park Slope ranks the No. 1 most creative neighborhood in the borough with 3,500 independently employed designers and independent artists in residence. Williamsburg comes in No. 2 with a little less than 3,000 "self-employed creatives," followed by Brooklyn Heights (around 2,600), and BoCoCa (around 1,700). Red Hook and Prospect Heights tied for fifth place with 1,600 each.

The majority of self-employed creatives in each neighborhood are classified as "independent artists" and earn an average of $20,000 per year according to SEC filings--a figure that reflects substantial underreporting. [The New York Observer] (via)

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Comments (131)

I buy that. Williamsburg has been conquered by Eurotrash, investment bankers and fake hipster rich kids now.

Posted by Eurotrash | March 6, 2008 10:29 AM

key word here: employed

we all know the most creatively vital artists freelance and whore that shit out! (not)

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:32 AM

in the category of self-important pretentious fucks who put "artist" on their tax return, Park Slope clearly wins.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:34 AM

Good. Park Slope can have 'em. I'd rather my neighbors in Williamsburg work for a living. Fucking trust fund babies.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:34 AM

"employed artist" is shorthand for "rich kid who doesn't have to work."

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:36 AM

anyone making $20,000 could not afford to live in any of those neighborhoods.


i hate hate hate you.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:38 AM

You are not an artist (and most likely not creative) unless you make at least 20K/year off your art. And have mommy and daddy make up the difference for your Park Slope rent.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:38 AM

yes, Park Slope is tops in the idle wealth department, ie self-described "artists"

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:39 AM

Wait, I can get PAID to do art?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:41 AM

"I, like, make jeweellllry and stuff. And, um, like, go to connnnnnnncerts and stuff. And, like, um, I don't know, make art and stuff."

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:44 AM

yes, Vincent Van Gogh was not an artist.

10:38 hit the nail square on the head: the universal definition of 'artist' is clearly and plainly: one who makes over 20 thousand US dollars per year.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:45 AM

this article can be translated into sensible English by substituting the phrase "graphic designer" for the word "artist"

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:47 AM

This is a discussion that simply MUST be had.

Posted by Dr. Important Q. Relevance | March 6, 2008 10:55 AM

'..."independent artists" and earn an average of $20,000 per year according to SEC filings--a figure that reflects substantial underreporting....'

Forget about raids on employers and the rounding up of illegal workers, let's see some IRS SWAT teams descend on the Brownstones of Park Slope and have these "creatives" shipped back to Connecticut.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:58 AM

Speaking of Park Slope:

"The good news: Sex toy behemoth Babeland is opening a new retail location in Park Slope, Brooklyn. The bad news: It's on the same block as a Gymboree, which has a few Park Slope parents in an uproar. Guess those hip mamas aren't so hip after all."

Posted by Source: Fleshbot | March 6, 2008 10:58 AM

I'm an artist. My whole life is art.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:01 AM

The underreporting is more commonly known as creative income tax reporting.

Posted by Chris | March 6, 2008 11:03 AM

I love this line:

"I used to live in Cobble Hill, then I was priced out and moved to Forte Greene. Now I’ve been priced out again, so I am moving to Bed Stuy."

next on the list? Bayridge? Coney Island?

last on the list- Far Rockaway,

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:08 AM

poop.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:08 AM

I seriously don't get why people care what kinds of people live in what neighborhoods. It's not where you live that says anything about you, it's what you do.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:09 AM

Real artists live in Astoria.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:09 AM

Creative income tax reporting is more commonly known as tax evasion.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:10 AM

I think you'll find few truly innovative people in these areas. They're mostly just wealthy.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:13 AM

first I got priced out of the village. then I lost my lease in the East Village. I moved to Williamburg and they built a condo on top of me. Then I moved to Bushwick and they sold my illegal loft building. These days I live in the ocean.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:15 AM

Can I be an artist if I live in Brownsville?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:19 AM

can I be an artist if I live in Paramus, NJ?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:25 AM

11:09 has it right...you can be an artist anywhere. If you're worried about living in the "artistic" neighborhood, you probably aren't working hard enough.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:28 AM

yes you can. and btw "anonymous" won the Time man of the year.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:29 AM

There hasn't been an artist in Williamsburg for almost ten years.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:29 AM

But can you be an artist and live in the ocean?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:32 AM

You know what the best comment so far is? (and there a lot of choice ones above):

"Good. Park Slope can have 'em. I'd rather my neighbors in Williamsburg work for a living. Fucking trust fund babies."


Hahahahahaha!!! You make me laugh. Something about the pot... kettle... i dunno.

People who hate on Park Slope most likely have nothing to base that on, other than the snide comments on Gawker and Gothamist about the stroller-pushers. Truth be told, Park Slope is a cool neighborhood with a lot of chill bars, great restaurants and music venues. Not to mention a great park.

So yeah... keep bringing the unfounded comments, and in five years when you're back in whatever Midwest suburb you came from, we'll miss you terribly.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:36 AM

hey 11:36. you're a yupster nerd!

Park Slope blows, ya dumbass!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:38 AM

Anon. 11:36 is a real estate agent!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:41 AM

a yupster real estate agent.

sell me somma them lots in the ocean man

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:44 AM

Williamsburg: transient hipsters that want to be "artists" but ultimately move back to Ohio after a few years

Park Slope: real "self-employed creatives" that are successful at what they do and want to be surrounded by other like minded individuals.

Remember, the article mentions "self-employed creatives", which could be anything. Park Slope doesn't have many visual artists, but has tons of writers, actors, and musicians. Not every NYC musician plays in a ToddP band. Some play classical or jazz, and live in Park Slope.

Both neighbhoods are dying from the ibanker invasion. The North Slope is almost dead. But Williamsburg is more about the scene than about the art. No one really cares about art in Williamsburg, they just make pretend they do, because it is hip.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:47 AM

In any case, Perth Amboy owns both Park Slope and Williamsburg.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:53 AM

Re: Anon 11:15 AM, you live in the Ocean (or Ocean Ave?) now? you must be the Cloverfield monster!

Posted by Eurotrash | March 6, 2008 11:55 AM

anon 1147a is correct.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:59 AM

11:47, eat it. Park Slope is for settled liberal arts grads with professional carreers and you know it. Go make babies.

You're obviously insecure about your own status amongst the hipster cognoscenti. But just because you're an unselfconfident nerd doesn't mean those Williamsburg trendsetters you're so intimidated by aren't actually more intersting and more creatively vital than you.

The weak link there is you, and no matter how many times you tell yourself that all those cool kids are phonies and creatively worthless, the fact remains that very little in the way of fresh ideas ever comes out of you and your Park Slope yuppie community.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:00 PM

Why aren't more people 'rent stablized'? Doesn't that take care of the whole priced-out thing? Unless your landlord realizes he can get more money for selling the whole thing when the time is right...

Posted by Bay Ridge | March 6, 2008 12:01 PM

Inwood is the new Brooklyn.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:05 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I'm a self-employeed graphic designer in Park Slope and I love it.

Y'all can kiss my white ass.

Posted by LiveJournalisMyBitch | March 6, 2008 12:07 PM

Prince Edward Island is the new Sunset Park.

Ridgewood is the new Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:08 PM

12:07. do you put 'artist' on your tax return?

do you have business cards printed up that say so too?

are you very very special and different.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:10 PM

do you think McSweeney's and Sufjan Stevens are really neat?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:11 PM

"Williamsburg trendsetters"

Don't you mean trend-followers?

Oh look, he is wearing a trucker hat, I should too!

My roomate has skinny jeans, that means I have to get some too.

There is nothing about Park Slope or Williamsburg that defines an art scene. In the past, yes, but not today. Living in Park Slope doesn't make you an artist. It is doesn't make you a yuppie. Living in Williamsburg doesn't make you an artist.

One thing is for sure: Williamsburg does not create trends.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:15 PM

I'm moving to another city. This type of banter is ridiculous.

Posted by StopCrying | March 6, 2008 12:15 PM

poop.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:15 PM

The guy who bombed the armed forces recruiting center in Times Square lives on South 2nd St. Advantage: Williamsburg.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:20 PM

bluntly, Park Slope is for middle of the road creative types who wear designer eyeglasses and buy new Macbooks every year. People who pay for their copies of Photoshop.

not the cutting edge by any means, but it's not like anyone would advocaste their death by firing squad or anything.

It is a little sad to see these obvious bourgeoisie types getting all defensive here, over people simply calling them what they are. If you make a decisioon to be part of the establishment, acknowledge the decision and accept that you've chosen stability and income over staying in the conversation about important art.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:21 PM

"hipster cognoscenti" / "Williamsburg trendsetters"

I can't tell if that guy is joking or if he is being serious.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:22 PM

One thing is for sure: Anon 12:15 does not know trends.

nobody wears trucker hats anymore, dude. It's been a long time.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:23 PM

"very little in the way of fresh ideas ever comes out of you and your Park Slope yuppie community."

Nor do they come out of Williamsburg either.

It's over.

Yuppies and bankers and midwestern kids have taken over.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:24 PM

True the Bedford stop area is over, but you see Willaimsburg is connected to Bushwick and Bed Stuy which remain very intersting and alive, whereas Park Slope is connected to... Carrol Gardens and Boerum Hill and Brooklyn Heights. Advantage: BBurg

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:27 PM

"When bankers get together they talk about art. When artists get together, they talk about money"

-- Oscar Wilde

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:28 PM

"It is a little sad to see these obvious bourgeoisie types getting all defensive here"

Wait a second, isn't it the BBurgers getting all defensive after reading the article?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:29 PM

what's with all this hate for midwest transplants? The new blood kids from out of town who move here are what keep this bloated overpriced elitist town moving

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:29 PM

"nobody wears trucker hats anymore, dude. It's been a long time."

But the point remains: people follow trends in Williamburg, not make them.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:32 PM

and people in Park Slope are totally 2 years behind those same trends

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:33 PM

holy shit...the fight between park slope/carroll gardens/bk heights versus williamsburg/greenpoint/bushwick is amazing.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:45 PM

this white on white crime has to stop.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:51 PM

people keep speaking about good art or art that matters in these comments. does anyone have any examples of an artistic work that had a major impact on NYC and beyond?

Posted by garfunkel, art | March 6, 2008 12:53 PM

boerum hill features NO toxic waste

boerum hill: 1
hipsterburgwickstuywoodheights: <0

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:56 PM

I would go back to Ohio if there were any jobs there. It's more laid back, the creative types who I know back there are less pretentious and more involved in actually creating shit. I live in Williamsburg because it's the nicest place I could afford sharing with four other people and the most convenient to working downtown. I do like indie rock and play in a band-- I make a little money from that, but my main gig is a boring office job making about 30K-- I can pay my 750/month share okay; it sucks sharing a 2 bedroom, but I've been told that that has been pretty normal in NYC since way before people like myself destroyed it with our presence... I wouldn't call myself a creative professional even though I put every non-working moment into my art. Most of the other people I know in this neighborhood are in the same position. The only people I know of in the neighborhood who aren't transplants from somewhere (CT, Long Island, the Midwest, Europe, wherever) are my Polish landlady and I'm assuming some of the other Poles and Hispanic folk I see in the area. I know people get pissed when their rents go up and can't afford to go out drinking every night of the week, but enough with the xenophobia. The class war comments are cool and all, as long as you don't think that all these midwestern kids are investment bankers. I'm a file clerk for christ's sake.

Do you have any idea how retarded you all seem comparing the size of your neighborhoods' cocks? It's fucking bizarre.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 12:59 PM

12:15 you're on the nose. areas with million dollar brownstones or condos is not a haven for artists. i don't care how much you try to debate the fact. it's just very sad that more and more places have condos going up and new york is losing what it's had for years.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:00 PM

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

BOR-ING!!!

Posted by Mid Fingg | March 6, 2008 1:14 PM

If it's affordable housing that makes an area artsy, just wait a couple of years when they can't fill half the 10's of thousands of new units they're buiding all over Williamsburg. Simple supply and demand will turn Williamsburg back into the safe haven for artists and welfare recipients it once was! This time with 12 foot ceilings and stainless steel appliances! Yay over-development!!!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:21 PM

"The guy who bombed the armed forces recruiting center in Times Square lives on South 2nd St. Advantage: Williamsburg."

are you saying he lives in Death By Audio? Maybe it's one of the dudes from Market Hotel!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:21 PM

"the class war comments are cool and all, as long as you don't think that all these midwestern kids are investment bankers. I'm a file clerk for christ's sake."

there are two kinds of "kids" that come to NYC from the Midwest:

The old kind and the new kind:

The old kind: Teenage runaways that walk off the bus at Port Authority and get scooped up into a life of prostitution.

The new kind: Teenage NYU students sent here on their parents money to live the cool life in the big city.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:33 PM

Boerum Hill has zero toxic waste you say?

that's funny, I sure rememebered it being located on the banks of the Gowanus Canal...

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:33 PM

"
there are two kinds of "kids" that come to NYC from the Midwest:

The old kind and the new kind:

The old kind: Teenage runaways that walk off the bus at Port Authority and get scooped up into a life of prostitution.

The new kind: Teenage NYU students sent here on their parents money to live the cool life in the big city.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:33 PM
"

Phew, that's a relief. Since I don't fall into either of those categories, I guess I'm not really here. I wonder where I am. I'd hate to think you were wrong and that there really are people like me in New York who just came here because they can't find work in their hometown. That would mean there might be something going on in the country besides petty bickering over who has the coolest neighbors.

Posted by Anonymous 12:59 PM | March 6, 2008 1:40 PM

"and btw "anonymous" won the Time man of the year."

i did?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:43 PM

"most creative" sounds like a high school year book award.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:47 PM

It really is time to move out of this city.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:47 PM

MASS SUICIDE IS THE ANSWER, PEOPLE!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:51 PM

"Phew, that's a relief. Since I don't fall into either of those categories, I guess I'm not really here. I wonder where I am."

If you don't fall into either of those two catagories than nobody cares about you, neither the pimp or your parents.

So then by default, you aren't really here. cause if no one cares then you might as well not be here.


Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:51 PM

If you came here because there was no work elsewhere, it sounds to me that there specifically WASN'T anything else going on in the rest of the country.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:52 PM

Canarsie is more creative than Cleaveland

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:54 PM

"What's happening to our hood?!"

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:54 PM

i wonder what BV put on his tax return.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:54 PM

blogger

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 1:58 PM

with so many artist, why hasn't any of them blown up? I want to see some innovated shit, and not some canvas with colors. i want one of these artist to create a human being. now, that would be some innovated shit.

Posted by i use to read word up magazine | March 6, 2008 1:59 PM

no one ever pipe bombed Brooklyn. Times Square is setting the trends !!!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:01 PM

why does everyone mock the kids from the midwest? if YOU lived in the midwest, wouldn't YOU want to go to a college like NYU or Columbia if accepted? and if YOUR parents were willing to pay for it, why would YOU CARE? Shit, if my parents were cool like that I wouldn't want to go to NY, with annoying trend-setters. I would probably go to BOSTON, the mecca of colleges.

Posted by i cum in my socks | March 6, 2008 2:04 PM

Okay, retard. My hometown in OHIO: poverty rate: 31%, unemployment: 12%. That's "what's going on." I was referring to social/political/economic phenomena, turd breath. I didn't come here to be hip and happening-- that's just the way I am-- I came here to be able to put food in my mouth. I guess it would be cooler and I could make more money turning tricks, but I don't have health insurance and HIV treatment ain't free. We are not rich kids coming here to make everything uncool. And I'm sorry if my needing to work a 9-5 to pay the rent is distasteful to true bohemians.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:04 PM

Congrats 12:59 on one of the only smart comments on this thread...though this was pretty funny too: "If you don't fall into either of those two categories than nobody cares about you, neither the pimp or your parents."

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:07 PM

I think 12:59 and 2:04 brings up good point. However dont take it to heart because you know half the time or more people here are just joking around.

yeah its fucking sad and stuff how in general the economy has taken the shit and if you live in Michigan or Ohio you might as well kill yourself.

I can only say what's next? When NYC goes down too, you guys have your European Union papers ready?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:14 PM

"why does everyone mock the kids from the midwest?"

Calling out the midwest is just an example. Honestly, most that moved here after Giuliani cleaned up the city are boring compared to the way the city was before. They come here and complain "WTF? No Target?" After enough newcomers came, they started building Targets for them. Same goes for Starbucks. These newbies want the same amenities like "back home". Midwesterners, don't take it personally, all the new tourists suck.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:14 PM

Park Slope STAND UP!

Posted by Shashank | March 6, 2008 2:17 PM

Port Authority is one of my favorite places in New York. Question: how do you tell the pimps from the regular, run-of-the-mill trash?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:19 PM

there are pimps at Port Authority? News to me. All I see is a bunch of homeless guys.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:21 PM

2:14 - The New Yorkers who were here then are as boring *NOW* as anyone new who is coming here. We are living in boring times, dummy. I know because I'm one of them. It is the internet and video games. People are just less social. It's a fact. And we've had so many years economic growth that we forget how we had a good time when we couldn't buy it. The times are more boring. Don't blame transplants. Those starbucks were not built for tourists and midwesterners. YOU are a fucking idiot. They've always been here. Remember seeing those lame Ohio yuppie Starbucks swilling midwestern transplants the Dead Boys playing at CBGB's? I do.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:31 PM

I am one of the "new kind: Teenage NYU students sent here on their parents money to live the cool life in the big city," but am definitely interested in seeking out some of "The old kind: Teenage runaways that walk off the bus at Port Authority and get scooped up into a life of prostitution."

I'd loving nothing more to smoke crack with and then buttfuck some of the trash i spit on high school.

Where is the prostitution in NYC?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:35 PM

my blog is better than your blog, mom

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:37 PM

I highly doubt that anonymous 2:14 is a native New Yorker.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:37 PM

"Boerum Hill has zero toxic waste you say?

that's funny, I sure rememebered it being located on the banks of the Gowanus Canal..."

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&om=1&msa=0&msid=111991195824916846969.000442eac81763735c056&ll=40.685731,-73.986847&spn=0.011667,0.020084&z=16&iwloc=000442ead30daff42f1f9

...WELL buddy, as you can clearly see, the banks of the toxic gowanus are CLEARLY located exactly 2 blocks from boerum hill!! HA!

boerum hill: 2
hipsterburgwickstuywoodheights: -5

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:38 PM

"I highly doubt that anonymous 2:14 is a native New Yorker."

Born in in the now defunct Boulevard Hospital.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass when you go back home.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:44 PM

"I'd loving nothing more to smoke crack with and then buttfuck some of the trash i spit on high school.

Where is the prostitution in NYC?"

Anonymous 2:35 1) Please die, failing that 2)Try the yellow pages.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 2:44 PM

"Where is the prostitution in NYC?"

Well, there WAS some at Scores East, but they got busted for it and are about to lose their liquor license because of it.

Posted by Bambi | March 6, 2008 2:49 PM

Or maybe it was Scores West.

Posted by Bambi | March 6, 2008 2:51 PM

all this means is park slope is "more generally currently employed" than williamsburg...

which is fine, because students who make art/music are way more fun than assholes who work 9-5 and spend their money on art/music anyway.

"Don't trust anyone over 30."

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 3:10 PM

We need the Cloverfield monster to help unite this borough!

Posted by Eurotrash | March 6, 2008 3:23 PM

I don't understand what people are arguing about. Williamsburg hasn't really had an art scene since the late 1990s. Lots of people who work in "creative" fields live in Park Slope (including what seems like the entire publishing industry). There really isn't an artistic community of the kind we had in the East Village pre-Giuliani. People like that (especially the ones starting out) just can't afford to live here anymore. That's why the NY art scene is so dull right now.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 3:50 PM

Whoever though Brooklynites would hate each other so much? Why is that? We're all certainly better than Manhattanites. What a shame. Things have changed in the 15 years I've lived here. I am moving to Portland.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 4:02 PM

you'll be back...

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 4:11 PM

QUEENS BABY!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 4:18 PM

Brooklyn's almost over kids: enjoy the bickering while you can.

Posted by greg | March 6, 2008 4:40 PM

this really is such a bizarre fucking thread...how self-conscious/absorbed can a bunch of white, privileged, twenty-somethings be?

Twenty years from now, your kids will ask you what did as an entire country (Iraq) was destroyed in your name, and you will say, "I was arguing about trucker hats and bohemia and the lack of authenticity in one brooklyn neighborhood versus another."

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 4:42 PM

:: high fives 4:42pm ::

Posted by greg | March 6, 2008 4:44 PM

most importantly, Park Slope is where the strollers go. Thanks for keeping them out of north Brklyn.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 4:47 PM

I really am pretty sure Park Slope and Williamsburg are the same thing by now. I also thought that was simply common knowledge.

But I suppose, the last thing a hipster will ever do is call him/herself a hipster, so this fight will never end.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 5:12 PM

park slope is a fire trap

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 5:15 PM

Nicely said 4:42! People are dying, the planet is in trouble, and this is what people are arguing about? Why so much hate from people in the same borough? What difference does it actually make where you live? Whatever happened to just talking about music or entertainment on this site?

WHAT DOES ANYONE HAVE TO GAIN BY ALL THIS HATE?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 5:31 PM

Wow. Such an epic bitchfit. And for once, the pathetic:witty comment ratio is a lot more in favor of the latter.

Posted by Chris | March 6, 2008 6:06 PM

what time does daft punk buy a condo in Park Slope?

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 6:10 PM

They can't. They're contractually obligated to play at my house.

Posted by James Murphy Paunch | March 6, 2008 6:22 PM

doesn't matter cause both of those neighborhoods suck and don't have legit artists. they are just about all trust fund fucks who claim to be artists. bunch of pussies.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 6:23 PM

the last real williamsburg artists left in the early 2000's. they were priced out from skyrocketing rents that tore thru the area in a very short period of time. now it's filled with yuppies, hipsters and scruffy guys from ohio who have mommy and daddy to help them.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 6:32 PM

complete gentrification in both of those neighborhoods. they have nothing and are destroyed and filled with yuppies. fucking boring.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 6:34 PM

I'm curious... all your twenty something artists from Brooklyn what do you see yourself doing and where do you see yourself living in 10 -15 years ?

Posted by Dave | March 6, 2008 6:47 PM

the most tedious conversation ever


Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 6:48 PM

A lot of mention of Ohio here. I'd just like to go on record and state that Athens, Ohio is a great, great town. I can't speak for Akron or Youngstown or the Cincinnati suburbs or g'dang Scioto County which voted 81% for Hillary, but lets not shit on Athens.

Posted by Mr. Bobcat | March 6, 2008 8:06 PM

i'll wait for Vampire Weekend to weigh in on this controversy

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:40 PM

yeah! fuck you, Ohio. you suck! Park Slope totally beats your ass is cool points.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:46 PM

"People are dying, the planet is in trouble, and this is what people are arguing about?"

First of all, there is almost nothing, and nothing significant, that the typical BV commenter can do about any of that.

Second of all, by that logic, we should not have any fun whatsoever until all the world's ills are cured.

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 10:56 PM

i live in the Financial District and make way better music than ALL of you, so there!

Posted by Anonymous | March 6, 2008 11:12 PM

most of the serious, dedicated artists i know have been priced out of the city altogether.

not that skinny pants and mesh tube tops aren't creatively vital, though it would be nice to see something inspired instead of 'art' based solely on a vague notion of bland irony.

Posted by Anonymous | March 11, 2009 8:46 PM

I feel this thread needs at least one new post every year during the month of March. Anonymous 8:46 has passed the torch on to me, and in 1 year I pass it on to YOU. Godspeed.

Posted by Anonymous | March 5, 2010 3:33 PM

This thread doesn't need half as money posts as it already has.

D'oh!

Posted by Anonymous | March 5, 2010 3:56 PM

thank you a lot's man

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