Wow, that guy with messanger bag, ipod, untucked shirt is just sooooooooooooo cool, I mean really cool.

So so so so lame. I cruised through, got embarrassed and left.

Some things are meant to stay European.

walking through union square felt like bonnaroo.
it sucked.

LAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what a turd

nice, I got on the front page of BV, an for the record I know I look like a fucking idiot.

^ ^ ^

You look fucking retarded.

OMG, how counter-culture!!

for the love of christ.

I loved every moment of it. I really had nothing else to do on a friday night and I wanted a chance to make a difference and do something cool for the community. I feel like I'm really part of new york now. I did something I can tell my grandkids about. We danced our butts off and made a real statement about something that's very relative today. Maybe someone can tell me what that something is.

"Maybe someone can tell me what that something is."

know your audience, corey

brooklynvegan commenters are just sooooooooooooo cool, I mean really cool.

Anon. 9:50, I suspect the comment posted by "Corey" is satire.

I had a great time . . . I guess I'm European?

Yes Joshua, you are European. Just pronounce your name with a soft j....

I walked by this in its early stages and it was pretty lame (and this is coming from someone with an open-minded attitude and who likes performance art and other public spectacles in the name of shock and a good time). Unfortunately, most of the crowd weren't actually "party people" (no surprise there...what actual party kid would go to this, especially in broad open daylight, since you basically can't do drugs), so you had a hodge podge of young trashy kids (and not in a sexy way), curious onlookers and photographers. Plus, as previously mentioned, everyone was "dancing" to their different music so there was no synchronicity to everybody's actions and movements. I was hoping it would get better after nightfall but perhaps not.

fact: most comments on brooklynvegan posts are coming from cranky 29 year olds who refuse to leave their dark apartments at all costs and surf the web to scrutinize anyone having a remotely good time.

I would suggest to anybody who says it is stupid and no fun... that you are probably not the kind of person who would have fun at a silent rave.

Guess what kind of people this was an event for? That's right... this was for the kinds of people who WOULD like a silent rave!

If you aren't included on that list, there is no need to be bitter that other people had fun

Pictures?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10115907@N04/sets/72157604613868768/

i figured it would have been kind of enjoyable once i was drunk but nope. still kind of a waste of time.

life is a waste of time, get over it or don't

fact: most comments on brooklynvegan posts who support this kind of retarded bullshit and say that those who don't are "cranky 29 year olds" are in fact 21-25-year-old hipster and hipsterettes who think that dressing up in "quirky" clothes, growing an "indie beard" and "rocking out" to any and all flash-in-the-pan musical artists makes them something.

fact: you are not. You're a dime a dozen. Now go lay out on the southwest corner of McCarren Park and do your best to look cool and get attention since, ya know, mommy and daddy never did.

^^defensive 29 year-old who got their card pulled by anon 1132^^

i couldn't care either way, but what the hell is an "indie beard"?
did Lincoln have an "indie beard"? how about George Harrison circa 1970? is that an "indie beard" too? i bet Monet has the ultimate "indie beard".

when are people gonna stop using such extremely nonsense terms?

"indie beard" - are you fucking kidding me?
be ashamed of yourself.

An "Indie Beard" is when you have a beard as well, but you still want to reserve the right to call other people with beards "Indie"

who's the gurl w/ her backside to the camera? i'd hit it.

that's me ;)

@Gabriel Kung Fu: In all seriousness man...your photos are amazing! I love the way you concentrated on tight head shots and the various listening devices people were wearing. If I hadn't been there myself and personally experienced that the event just wasn't that cool, I would be totally bummed that I missed one of the events of the year after seeing your shots. Now THAT'S a compliment! Also, all the photos I'm seeing of this event are during daylight hours...did this thing actually last till 11pm?

If you actually look at the pictures, or if you were there, you can tell that this was largely an underage event where alot of highschoolers and college freshmen actually got to have some fun. Haters.
Then again, the lack of synchronicity (besides the couples here and there sharing headphones) makes this rather difficult as a communal experience. They're all dancing to the beat of their own drums, and isolated from each other despite the guise of solidarity.
Seems like this would be better executed with portable radio devices tuned to a concert or DJ prodcast. Then people could actually dance with each other. But I realize no one has radios anymore, much less portable ones.

Thanks so much, man! I'll post them for everyone else who might've lost them in the avalanche of grumpy bitter comments

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10115907@N04/sets/

I thought it was a lot of fun, but maybe it's only because I got to meet a lot of people cuz I was so up close to so many people to get those pictures, and I came with friends.

If I had been alone and had just isolated myself with my ipod, it would've sucked

And yeah, it lasted til 11 or so

towards the end, it turned into this crazy dance off- probably the highlight of the whole thing, actually

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10115907@N04/sets/72157604617267921/

"grumpy bitter comments" = anyone who doesn't think this was really fucking lame? Surrrrrrre.

Let's just declare this the dumbest event of the year and move on.

Wait, I thought the pillow fight was the dumbest event of the year?

Why don't you grumpy types get over yourselves? YES other people like to have fun, NO it doesn't make them lame

this is whack.

I like the people getting pissed at the - comments, they are the losers that went to this.

re
"YES other people like to have fun, NO it doesn't make them lame"

It doesn't take much for you "other people" to have fun.

"Wait, I thought the pillow fight was the dumbest event of the year?"

No. You have trumped it.

"It doesn't take much for you "other people" to have fun."

Oh OK so that's a bad thing. You're right, my idea of fun is so outdated. I should be so jaded to things that the common PEDESTRIAN would regard as fun, like music and dancing and getting out.

And you are calling us hipsters?

Ugh.

I represent a large corporate conglomerate who would like to contact you fine young people to represent us.

We will offer 5 Million each to be in our promo. lease post your cel phone #'s

917-FUCK-OFF

NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/nyregion/20rave.html

I like how the Frenchman at the end of the article says it's “so American.” Silent raves originated in Europe, dumkopf!

#13 here: http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/a_map_of_all_op.html ?

i had a fantastic time watching and snapping off photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dollsneerpiece/sets/72157604624062706/

I am so embarrassed for every one of you who attended the "rave." Way to go, kids!

Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
You old road is
Rapidly agin'.
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'.

^^^You're dumb.

Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes; you'd know what a drag it is to see you!

Sweet. Poetry in the comments section. UGH.

You bitter idiots need to get over your ridiculous pretentious arrogance and realise that there are things in life that are still fun. Perhaps you've been locked in your ma's basement reading this blog for too long that you've forgotten that, but trust me, some people are actually out there just having a good time. I don't understand why you have to have so much hate towards kids having fun? You were kids once too, although I suspect you've forgotten that due to the wasted lives you now lead.

Sure you may not enjoy just having a dance with other people, but for a few hours on a random Friday evening in the city, some thousand people did and had a very good time too!

I love how all the people defending this rave think that the critics are fat old losers stuck in their parents basements reading the Internet all day.

I can tell you that I'm 26; live in the city on my own; don't own a computer; yesterday, I spent all day outside in the beautiful weather... and I thought that silent rave was the stupidest fucking thing to hit Union Square in weeks!

I was 17 in 1978. I was a dork in high school band and in the theatre group. We had events like putting on outdoor shows for nursing homes and children's hospitals.

You little dweebs gather together and perfom this mastrubatry visual and performance art.....

Never in the history of this nation has there been such an utter horrible group of young people.

What did this "silent rave" accomplish? You cluster-fucked a busy thouroughfare and interupted people relaxing in a park.

You idiots should have been arrested.

And the photos? I have photos of myself doing barbershop quartet for old people, getting children with mangled bodies to dance.....

What ARE YOU going to have to show your kids and grandkids.....

???

gee, I was at the silent rave and after reading some of these comments, I've decided to enlist in the marines.

the marines are just another group of clowns.

why dont we start a special crime fighting group that attacks the CAUSES of crime?

All you college kids need to get jobs and stop leeching off your parents then maybe you might have a comment worth posting.

Kill your fucking Idols...

What percentage of BV commenters even know how to dance? What percentage will actually dance in public. I bet 99% of you have dancing on your list of really fun stuff you are too inhibited to do and therefore hate. Le sigh.

I don't even know what to say. Just because I went to a Silent Rave, that means that I am a selfish college student living off my parent's money, and I don't give a damn about orphans or the elderly or any of that?

Man... I don't have a steady job. I work when I can work, I work for friends for family odd jobs, I work until I can pay the rent. My parents dont give me shit, I'm not in college.. I'm 19, I'm a musician. I can't work for a living, I have to create for a living. That's my role in this world, OK? I do things for other people, yeah. I try to build a community. I try to make this scene bigger and I want people to take it seriously, and they do. I'm putting together a benefit show in June, for Tibet, because I care about that.

This shit we do in Union Square... yeah, you can call it stupid, and to a lot of people it really is. But it's also culture, man. That's for real, we get together just to do what we love to do, we bring other people into it, we're not aggressive about it, we don't wanna hurt anyone. We just wanna create and get together and learn and have fun. A lot of us are musicians and actors and artists and shit like that- you can't condemn us for not focusing on orphans and the elderly. People DON'T focus on orphans every day, it doesn't make them bad. I don't have money to give to orphans. I don't have much at all. I don't have the time or money to give much more than compassion, and I do, I do that.

Just let me fucking dance in the street and let me meet new people and don't tell me I'm wrong. Shit man, I have ADD, people have been telling me that the things I love to do are wrong, people have been telling me that since I was a little fucking kid. You're just another one of those people to me, you're totally fucking useless to me if all you're gonna do is condemn me.

I mean come on, try to connect with me and you'll learn some shit. Yeah, I'll come sing for orphans... tell me where you go perform, I'll stop by and do that shit, there's no reason why not. I don't know, it's just ignorant shit to label a whole generation like that, don't be such a vile blow hard, learn some fucking compassion and maybe dance for a while, shake that ass, shake that stick out of your ass man

whatever, fuck it. and I'll be at the next one, too.

ADD is just a label for lazy.

Get a job.

Noone needs you to create music. Or anything.

Orphans and elderly were suffering while you were prancing around like a douche. Like an add douche...

How come ADD was just "dsicovered" in the last 15 years, hust in time for a generation of little hipster douches...

@Gabriel Kung Fu: I'm the same guy who complimented you on your wonderful photos. Listen man...STOP DEFENDING YOURSELF...you don't have to! Here's a little secret about some (not all) BV posters that I'm surprised you haven't caught on to yet. Some of them ENJOY upsetting people. That's the main reason they post on this and other sites. Not to talk about music and events per se...but just to rile up other people and get their goats just for entertainment. Stop buying into it dude...and for goodness sakes DO NOT take any BV comments personally. Remember...these people don't even know you bro.

Yes they do. What the fuck do you think people build for and fight for? are you that ignorant, to say that culture is TOTALLY unimportant? Nobody needs to create culture?

So what IS the purpose of life then? To get a job? Yeah man, people tell ME to get real all the time, but in my opinion, their priorities are all over the place

I put a lot of effort into the things I love

if you want to talk to me about ADD, I will talk to you about it. I'm not lazy, I just can't focus on long-term goals very easily. I don't see the point. So I focus on short term goals instead.

I've held jobs man. How do you think I can afford my guitars and my amps and shit, or to live? I've worked, I've been EMPLOYED, had a fucking boss, worked ten hour days, I know how that works and I don't enjoy it. I'll just learn how to make a living creating. Plenty of people do it, and you know what, art deserves payment, so you can shutup with that bullshit

Orphans and elderly never suffered BECAUSE of my prancing. I'm not ever allowed to have fun, just because you can put it in that context then? Like oh if I play a show and have fun you can just say that people are suffering while I'm having a good time, and that's totally selfish... but you know what, people are gonna suffer no matter what the fuck I do.

I'm a compassionate person, you know? I take people in, I help them with their problems, but I don't have enough money that I can devote my energy on other people's problems all the time because I have got plenty of my own.

Man, I think ADD has been around for ages. You think it's weird that it was only recently discovered? guess what- society has never asked the same things of the youth, that they ask for today. It used to be that you grow up, you are on the farm or whatever at 12 years old. If you had ADD it wasn't an issue because all the fuck YOU had to do was work a god damn field or whatever- now we have school until we're like over 20 years old? college, man? of course there are people with brains that work DIFFERENTLY from yours. ADD is one of MANY different ways you can classify a brain. What is so DIFFICULT to understand?

BV has the best comment section in the world. Really good stuff. Keep it up. Makes my day ;)

FURTHERMORE

ADD was first 'diagnosed' by Hippocrates in the 4th century

It has been labeled as a 'disorder' or 'disability' since the 1860's

People have been wiser than you for thousands of years, get off your high horse

It's only in the last 15 years that the pharmaceutical companies have been pushing this shit and making a profit of of it.

There are over 20,000 studies on ADD

It is WELL documented and WELL studied. The only people who don't agree that ADD exists are people who don't know any better, and they just say that shit because they don't understand people with ADD.

You probably know someone who's got ADD and you don't get them, but that's because they are different from you... so you condemn them. It is fucking classic, man. you think a silent rave is pathetic? If humanity isn't past this point, of condemning what they don't understand... that is pretty weak.

"ADD is just a label for lazy", Anon. 7:00?

What an ignorant statement. Are you always so ill informed about the people and things you pass judgement on?

BV commentators are such a prim and sanctimonious lot. Are you all aging spinster aunts on a day pass from a Dickens novel, or what?

And Voice of Reason...I was 24 in 1978. However, I still remember what it was like to be young. Back in MY day kids drank, smoked pot, went to parties, danced, and had sex. Maybe it's just the senile dementia, but I seem to recall that it was a lot of fun. It doesn't seem like a whole lot has changed....

HEY ADD Boy - YOU SUCK- YOU ARE TAKING UP SPACE

LAZY PARASITIC TICKS

ADD is just lazy, you MUST work, you must do something and meet somebody elses needs to earn $, you can be an artist, but you have to draw what they tell you to or sing what they want.

You have to pay dues, get it man???

VERY FEW ARTISTS, A MINISULE PERCENTAGE OF THEM GET TO DIRECT THEMSELVES AND SET THE STYLES.

AND IT WILL NEVER EVER BE YOU !!!!!!!

BECAUSE YOU SUCK AND YOU IRRITATE PEOPLE.

Someone has to tell this geneation they suck.

They grew up coddled by yuppies, never wanting for anything, winning awards every time they took a shit, never told N-O.

They act like free spirits, until tey get a boo boo, then their parnt hire lawyers and SUE!!!!!!!

The seventies were different. People were notouches People worked for their money. Did not get it from SSI forbeing ADD or from their parent.

Never has their been a worse generation of young people.

Never has such a widespead mastrubatory arts movement takenplace in he history of MANKIND.

This silent rave is not a new cocept If anyone rmembers the old disco WKTU they would broadcast music, people would gather in Central Park, and dance while wearing headphones. So passerbys wuld see people dancing to the SAME FUCKING SONG...not everyones own EMO crap....

YOU SUCK YOU SUCK YOU SUCK

Williamsburg willbe sut down, this emo indi crap has gone far enough !!!

Hey Ritalin boy - you mom was wrong, you really do SUCK, your dad was right, you really are WORTHLESS

If you can not get by without ritalin then you should be eliminated to make space for someone who can.

That is the law.

Mr. Buddhababy:

you wrote:

"And Voice of Reason...I was 24 in 1978. However, I still remember what it was like to be young. Back in MY day kids drank, smoked pot, went to parties, danced, and had sex. Maybe it's just the senile dementia, but I seem to recall that it was a lot of fun. It doesn't seem like a whole lot has changed...."

The difference is back then parents did not drive the kids in their mini vans to said parties and procure their pot, and then when somebody gets a boo boo they would not run tell their parents and sue !!.

IT IS DIFFERENT: ALL THE YUPPIE SCUM FROM THE 80s took time out to have kids in the recessed 90s and todays youth are the das result.

Why are their no more diving boards? Because if some add spastic fucktard gets hurt mommy sues.

Why is their no drinking at colleges?

see above

Why are their thousands of rules these days, becuase stupid ASS Hipsters hurt themselves, the way we did in the seventies, but instead of sucking it up and HIDING IT from our parents, these little twerps run crying to them and the parents SUE!!!!!!!

So the world is fucked up by things like silent raves and the twits that go to them.

I am done.

Thread over.

To Gabriel Kung Fu:

Nobody has ever told you this so I will.

Grow the fuck up, you are not special.

http://diehipster.com/2008/01/27/you-have-got-to-be-mother-fucking-kidding-me.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1nk9M7qDUA

Die you fucking hipster shit heads....now someone will get sued because of these TOTAL DOUCHES

I don't take drugs, man. What a dumbass assumption.

Yeah, I pay my bills, I make enough money to pay my rent. I have my own apartment, I know what all that shit means.

You think my mom just coddled me all day long and drove me around in a fucking minivan? Yeah man... I grew up without a dad, I don't know what having a dad is like, so my mom figured she had to be a hardass to make up for it.

You think you can tell me that my parents pamper me and spoil me? Yeah, you know what my dad got me for my fourth birthday? A big box filled with 'fuck you, I'm outta this joint'

On my fourth birthday, man.

I was almost sent to military school, shit like that. My mom didn't give a fuck- procuring my pot? she would have slapped the shit out of me if I'd been smoking pot.

If you're gonna judge on entire generation based on MY childhood and MY life, then no, you have said exactly the wrong things, you have made a polar opposite assessment.

I don't take ritalin
I work for my money
What the fuck is your point? Where is your point now? Since it was built on assumptions which turned out to be entirely incorrect, you losst it. No more point. Just hot air and a whole lot of talk, man.

I can do more shit with my life than you- what do YOU do, man? Tell me what you do that's so fucking difficult?

Me, grow up? I'm grown up man. I do the shit I love to do, I find a way to make it work. I take pictures, I make music, that's what I do. Now tell me that what you do is so much more fulfilling

I already told you all- you think this shit bugs me? Naah I've been hearing this all my life. You're useless to me if you don't know how to listen.

Nothing you've said has been correct. You judge my parents, you judge my lifestyle- you won't KNOW my parents and you won't KNOW my lifestyle unless you listen to me... and yet you call me ignorant? naive?

Man, like I said before
People have been wiser than you have for thousands of years.

You think you know shit? You think you can know people so well from such a headstrong point of view?

It's ridiculous

Wow! I am stunned at the intensity of the bitterness and rage radiating off this page, and directed towards what? A kid asserting his right to dance at a public event?

You guys should see someone about that. Perhaps you're the ones that need medicating.

To Anon 6:19 and The Voice of Reason (you're being ironic, right?)

You are correct that only a small percentage of artists are huge critical or financial successes, but a) culture is made by everyone who participates in the arts, not just the blue chip artists and b) it is possible to make a living in the arts without being a megastar. You have to be persistent and not expect to be rich, but it's not all THAT hard to do.

I have been an artist here in NYC for 33 years and I've had successes and failures but it has ALL been meaningful and I would never trade my experience for anyone else's. When I was in school my painting teacher gave me a piece of advice that has proven invaluable: the arts are a way of life, not a living.

Any true artist certainly isn't going to listen bitter old farts like yourselves. They'll follow their own hearts.

As for your generational critique, you're right: in the 70's kids weren't driven around in minivans, it was station wagons, and at 16 you got your license and drove yourself around. I knew kids back then who's parents would buy them alcohol for parties, and cars, and paid for apartments for them. People have been doing that for their kids since day 1, so get your information straight. It's nothing new.

By your description of the situation, the kids you are so hateful towards are really just the product of their parent's anxiety and coddling. So blame them, not children who have no choice over the families or society they are born into. But wait! By my math you're part of the "Yuppie Generation". Oh my! I guess I am too! Does that make US the worst generation ever? By your reasoning I'm afraid so. But I've been a paragon of virtue my entire life so I think it's really up to you to take the blame. Therefore:

EVERYTHING THAT SUCKS IN THE WORLD IS YOUR STUPID FAULT!!!!!!!!!!

WOW! I feel SO much better now. I'm going to have to try this more often!

Jesus H. Fucking Christ people, what's wrong with you? This shit isn't lame, it's QUADRUPLEGIC WITH DOWNS SYNDROME WITH AIDS MEETS THE EBOLA VIRUS. Calling this shit art is like calling Ron Jeremy a great actor. (sorry, didn't mean to insult RJ)

Folks, I grew up in the 70s and 80s. See, back then, a party required: loud music, booze, drugs (mostly pot, not cocaine) and easy women. Also, the risk of getting arrested actually added to the fun. We were not rich, hell most of us were butt poor. Nobody even knew what a trust fund was back then.

Then little by little your rights were taken away. So slowly you never even noticed. Drinking was banned, smoking was banned, dancing was banned, living rough was banned. Now you make a party with no booze, no drugs, no sex, no balls... ??? WTF??

And you shitty Hipsters celebrate it like you're so fucking cutting edge!! Give me a fucking break!

Look at it this way: Imagine living in an Alabama trailer, married to a 300 pound woman and driving a third hand ford escort held together with duct-tape. If you lived like that all your life, you probably think you're fine and dandy. But if you step out of it for 5 minutes, and see how the rest of the world lives, you would see how fucked up you really were.

That's what dancing to no music in Union Square feels like. Oh, and don't mention iPods. In my day, we danced and communicated with each other. Now THAT'S a foreign concept to you hipsters.

Jesus H. Fucking Christ people, what's wrong with you? This shit isn't lame, it's QUADRUPLEGIC WITH DOWNS SYNDROME WITH AIDS MEETS THE EBOLA VIRUS. Calling this shit art is like calling Ron Jeremy a great actor. (sorry, didn't mean to insult RJ)

Folks, I grew up in the 70s and 80s. See, back then, a party required: loud music, booze, drugs (mostly pot, not cocaine) and easy women. Also, the risk of getting arrested actually added to the fun. We were not rich, hell most of us were butt poor. Nobody even knew what a trust fund was back then.

Then little by little your rights were taken away. So slowly you never even noticed. Drinking was banned, smoking was banned, dancing was banned, living rough was banned. Now you make a party with no booze, no drugs, no sex, no balls... ??? WTF??

And you shitty Hipsters celebrate it like you're so fucking cutting edge!! Give me a fucking break!

Look at it this way: Imagine living in an Alabama trailer, married to a 300 pound woman and driving a third hand ford escort held together with duct-tape. If you lived like that all your life, you probably think you're fine and dandy. But if you step out of it for 5 minutes, and see how the rest of the world lives, you would see how fucked up you really were.

That's what dancing to no music in Union Square feels like. Oh, and don't mention iPods. In my day, we danced and communicated with each other. Now THAT'S a foreign concept to you hipsters.

Hey "Gabriel Kung Fu",

Little douche, of course your father left when he realized you were the devil incrnate and not result of his procreation.

You are just a douche.

In order to redeem yourself STOP TAKING UP SPACE ON THIS PLANET MAN....

Let them harvest your organs for use by good folks that need them. All your property should be sold off or donated to orphans.

You should not exist.

You should have gone to that military school instead of living your free for all existance.

Who am I?

I am them, man !

I was the voice of reason to get your father to jet when you were four.

When you were growing up and parents did not want YOU around there kids, ir was ME !

When you were older, I was the parents who did not want you dating their daughters.

I was them when they did not want you:

1. to go to school there
2. to work someplace
3. to participate in some program
4. to rent a place to live
5. to be in the store
6. to just be hanging around

It was me man, I am the world that just collectivly wants to grab your neck and squeeze until the life leaves you.

You are not a person.

You are not even an animal.

You are vermin. Like a cockroach.

YOU SUCK

Gabriel Kung Fu - images of some ritalined ADD douche bag running around kicking things.

JUST DIE YOU LITTLE SPASTIC SHIT.

Union Square PArk should be a park for quiet relaxation. Hold your raves in a private building where you have to (gasp) pay and get insurance.

The police should have arrested you for an illegal gathering.

YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO USE THE PARK LIKE THAT.

The police should have shot you little hipster shits and harvested your organs.

Remember all those dirty looks od disdain everywhere you go, it was ME MAn !!!!!!!!

You piece of shit.

Hipsters ruined music, party, culture, art fun.

You caused this condervative backlash.

And your mom hated having to care for you cause she missed out on having any fun herself.

You stole her youth you little shit just so you can be "Gabriel Kung Fu"

WHAT A LITTLE SHIT

JUST DIE YOU LITTLE RITALIN ADD PSEUDO LIBERAL SELFISH LITTLE FUCK TARD.

Orphans and elderly need your organs, and we can feed your entrails to zoo animals, so people who deserve it can enjoy the animals in the zoo.

And we can give your guitars and cameras to orphans.

YOU ARE SO SELFISH TO BE TAKING UP SPACE ON THE PLANET MAN. JUST WAY TOO SELFISH.

Voice of Reason: What an incredible display of rage! It's so ugly and hateful. Are you as hostile with the people in your life or do you just vent it at people you don't know on the internet?

What the world really needs are fewer rage filled hotheads like yourself spewing their venom.

To be so angry about something so minor, that barely even impacts your life, is crazy. You should look to yourself and your own emotional issues instead of trying to blame other people for your unhappiness. I'm not trying to be a wise ass, I'm completely serious. Get yourself some help.

It's funny that you are the one calling me spastic though. Oh well- it's clear that this conversation is done

wait, can someone please define for me this word hipster? when i arrived here in ny it meant a club kid who uses fake artist culture to look cool, and who went to misshapes, dressed like they were too poor to afford clothes that weren't ripped. these days, just about anyone who appreciates creativity, who is not an artist is considered a hipster. by your definitions, i'd say that every one of you here is considered to someone else, a hipster. can you come up with a better insult? you're commenting on the fucking brooklyn vegan, and you're still using that h-word to destroy each others credibility. i'm tired of this hipster witch hunt, it really is a determent to creativity. i think its a good thing that at least some american kids these days are exploring the creative side of things, no matter how silly it may be. its less time they're spending on buying things, watching tv, and surfing the internet.

Basically anyone who embraces a youthful and edgy urban style, who enjoys going to rock shows and divey-type bars is labeled a hipster these days. These people represent a significant fraction of the under-30 population in this city who enjoy keeping up with the latest in nightlife, music, art, and culture. Hipterism is the new mainstream, and basically anyone with a healthy and active social life is a "hipster". It's irrelevant whether hipsters truly re-invented certain elements of culture and style, or if they're just cultural consumers and social leeches like others would retort. It's simply the new reality.
Now...isn't it funny how so many anti-hipster posters on here try to use "hipster" is an insult? This group of people labeled "hipsters" don't actually refer to themselves as "hipsters", and they certainly don't care what is thought of them by anonymous CL trolls. Whatever you want to label it, "hipster" culture is thriving and spreading in NYC. "Hipsters" are out partying, enjoying life, meeting new friends, and probably getting laid while the anti-hipster hate mongerers are sitting alone behind their computer screens resenting anyone else out there who is out having fun. I'm pretty sure the group of people labeled "hipsters" would much rather prefer doing whatever they're doing, than to switch places with the anti-hipsters on here.
Judging from their comments, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from "tough guy" non-intellectual homophobic macho types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. At some point in their lives they probably got mocked and ridiculed, or even had beer poured all over their heads, by some downtown girl with a tattoo (aka "hipster") after trying to pull some lame move on them. If you think about it, in some ways the entire hipster revolution came about to mock and ridicule such people and their mentalities. It's not about meat and muscle anymore. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant about hipsters.

If you want to see what usernames "diehipster" and "hipsterminator" look like, just go to the NYC Rants and Raves section of Craigslist and search "hipster". I have their pictures posted up online in various posts. These two idiots babble like babies and they have been throughly mocked and made fun of on Craigslist. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant about hipsters.

I am hipster hear me roar, in numbers to big to ignore, and I am off to cash my parents allowance check !

Trey, why are'nt you out racing shopping carts or playing kickball? Maybe the hispters don't want you? Maybe you will post all these links in defense of hipsters on your myspace page and then they wil accept you?

Gabriel you are just a fucking waste of space. Stop breathing. You are using up oxygen and potable water.

YOU FUCKING SUCK, THE WORLD IS SICK OF HIPSTER AND YOU WILL BE GONE SOON. THERE MUST BE A CRACK DOWN ON HIPSTER THE WAY THIS COUNTRY CRACKED DOWN ON WITCHES AND COMMIES........

i farted. sorry.

EVEN THE FUCKING VILLAGE VOICE HATES AND MOCK YOU HIPSTER VERMIN

I will get you fucking hipster one by one. Very soon I will come into some money to buy a small building. I will have section 8 seniors there to save money. Then I will have hipsters there to get multiple thousand rent, then I will have them fined and evicted and arrested when they make the slightest bit of annoynace or noise to the seniors. I will have them busted by undercovers for drug sales. I will wiretap their phones and give that info to the police.

I WILL CLOSE DOWN AFTER HOURS CLUBS.

YOU SUCK YOU SUCK YOU SUCK

HIPSTERS RUINED:

1. New york

2. Music

3. Film

4. Art

5. Everything

Very soon there will be changes, including an actual POOL for families with children at McCarren Pool Park, THERE WILL BE KICKBALL BUT NOONE UNDER 8 WILL BE PLAYING IT.

Adults will be organizing childrens games.

YOU WILL ALSO GET FUCKING CANCER AND DIE PAINFUL DEATHS.

I PRAY FOR THIS EVERY THIRTY MINUTES.

NO MORE FUCKING HIPSTER SHIT HEADS

As was said before, hipsterism is the new mainstream. If you own an article of clothing from a thrift store, you're a "hipster". If you drink cheap beer, you're a "hipster". If you're a vegetarian or vegan, you're a "hipster". If you your fashion sensibilities are edgy and urban, you're a "hipster". If your hair is a little messy or scruffy, you're a "hipster". If you're from the mid-West and you now live in NYC, you're a "hipster". If you work as a freelancer or have flexible work hours, you're a "hipster". If you work in the creative sector, in media, in film, in entertainment, or in the music industry you're a "hipster". If you own an ipod, you're a "hipster". If you listen to a band that happens to be on an indie record label, you're a "hipster". Heaven's forbid...if you've ever gone to McCaren Park in the summer to see a free show, and you've played dodgeball there, you're a dirty filthy stinking "hipster". If you simply exist, there's probably someone out there that's labeling you some form of "hipster".
Like it or not, the modern hipster movement is here to stay. Deal with it. It was something that was started/re-invented/re-established/recycled over 15 years ago by creative types in Williamsburg, and now it has become the mainstream. In a sense, the hipsters have won as they have successfully "hipsterized" modern sensibilities. "Hipsters" are out partying, enjoying life, meeting new friends, and probably getting laid while the anti-hipster hate mongerers are sitting alone behind their computer screens resenting anyone else out there who is out having fun. I'm pretty sure the group of people labeled "hipsters" would much rather prefer doing whatever they're doing, than to switch places with the anti-hipsters on here.
Judging from their comments, a lot of anti-hipster sentiment evidently comes from "tough guy" non-intellectual homophobic macho types who feel that the more sensitive, intelligent, and culturally aware hipster ideal threatens their insecure sense of masculinity. At some point in their lives they probably got mocked and ridiculed, or even had beer poured all over their heads, by some downtown girl with a tattoo (aka "hipster") after trying to pull some lame move on them. If you think about it, in some ways the entire hipster revolution came about to mock and ridicule such people and their mentalities. It's not about meat and muscle anymore. Anti-hipster sentiment often comes from people who simply can't keep up with social change and are envious of those who can. Remember...you can always rate the amount of insecurity someone has by the amount they rant about hipsters.

"its less time they're spending on buying things, watching tv, and surfing the internet."

Of course, the irony is that they do all those things in abundance (especially buy things), but who's counting.

Anyone on this board recommend a good steak house?

Also, where in Williamsburg can I buy Veal Cutlets?

PETE LUGERS SINCE 1969 YO I INVENTED WILLIAMSBURG AND I WROTE THE GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL TO PROVE IT

cold chicken is good

We hipster must stick together!

'GABRIEL KUNG FU'

So how many real kids did you father have when he jetted out on you?

What did THEY all get for birthday presents?

i think its pretty rad that they took over union square for a little bit of time...they are happy and doing exactly what they want to do!!

if it was a silent "vampire weekend" show at the park there would be 1000000's of you guys dancing, quoting bukowski and correcting each other grammar.

respect other people's choice to be different, just as you demand respect.

@Voice Of Reason (as if): When is the last time you got laid?

you all suck, your lives are meaningless, all culture dies in 1991, you are loser consumers...........

YOU SUCK

....stupid hipsters

Silent Rave returns Sunday
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