Posted in music | tour dates on April 21, 2008

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She & Him cancelled their Monday night show at Hiro Ballroom, so they decided to move the Tuesday night show to Webster Hall which means a) every single person that had a ticket for Monday night's show can go on Tuesday (and has to or else has to get a refund), and b) even more tickets are going to be put on sale.

She and Him are also playing Conan and NYU (where by the way Thao with the Get Down Stay Down has been announced as opener)

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Comments (61)

booooo!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 10:14 PM

failboat.

Posted by des | April 21, 2008 10:34 PM

ohhhhhhhhhh shit...haha

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 10:47 PM

this is the lamest bullshit ever. fuck that shit.

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 10:55 PM

Ordinarily I think people bitch and moan in the comments for no good reason, but I've got to admit that this shit is pretty weak. If I had bought a ticket, I would be pissed, especially if it was scalped.

Posted by feedbacker | April 21, 2008 10:57 PM

This is stupid. I'm supposed to go to the Tokyo Police Club show tomorrow. Now I gotta fucking choose one.

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:00 PM

When Steven Seagal says he's gonna play B.B. King's, he plays B.B. King's.

Today's B-list actors-turned-musicians know nothing about integrity.

Posted by J | April 21, 2008 11:07 PM

Yeah, it would have been MUCH better if they had just canceled and said "fuck you" to everyone with a ticket. How dare they reschedule? In fact, how dare someone get sick to begin with?

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:07 PM

tokyo police club doesnt go on until 11.. im going to both.

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:09 PM

How is it watching a performing act at webster hall???

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:35 PM

No way she was sick.

This is typical bullshit to sell more tix. Ever since Bowery Presents started selling their tix on Ticketmaster and not Ticketweb, this shit has been happening more and more -- upgrading venues close to the show when the initially scheduled date(s) at smaller venues sell out quickly.

But you rarely see it happen this close to the date of the gig. This is particularly shady.

And, Zooey Deschanel is too cute to ever be sick.

Posted by Jesus H. Christ | April 21, 2008 11:46 PM

"This is typical bullshit to sell more tix. Ever since Bowery Presents started selling their tix on Ticketmaster and not Ticketweb, this shit has been happening more and more -- upgrading venues close to the show when the initially scheduled date(s) at smaller venues sell out quickly."

I completely agree that this probably wasn't canceled due to sickness, however I'm also sure this wasn't because Bowery wants to sell more tickets. I'm sure neither Bowery nor Ticketmaster want to deal with the hassle of issuing refunds, not knowing how many people will show up or get refunds after the fact, or will post rude comments to Brooklyn Vegan. This decisions was made by someone's manager. Bowery Presents are a the mercy of agents and managers, and never do anything without their explicit ok.

Posted by Anonymous | April 21, 2008 11:49 PM

i just don't understand how they could cancel monday's show at a small place due to "illness" and then the performers will be "well enough" to play at an even bigger place the next night. lame.

Posted by jason | April 21, 2008 11:59 PM

this is obviously something shady.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:18 AM

they suck wherever you see them


Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:44 AM

does m ward even play venues this big without her?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 1:23 AM

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 1:55 AM

"I completely agree that this probably wasn't canceled due to sickness, however I'm also sure this wasn't because Bowery wants to sell more tickets. I'm sure neither Bowery nor Ticketmaster want to deal with the hassle of issuing refunds, not knowing how many people will show up or get refunds after the fact, or will post rude comments to Brooklyn Vegan. This decisions was made by someone's manager. Bowery Presents are a the mercy of agents and managers, and never do anything without their explicit ok."

you really don't have a clue how those things work

Posted by anon | April 22, 2008 3:53 AM

we as hipsters must join together and DO SOMETHING

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 6:46 AM

^^^ HA

Posted by P Niddy | April 22, 2008 6:55 AM

I, for one, am not sad at all about this. Hiro Ballroom sucks to see a show and Webster Hall is pretty decent. Not a bad solution to the problem, really.

Can't say I'm shocked to find all the little hipsters bitching about it, though.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 7:15 AM

I love M. Ward!

Posted by John Haydon | April 22, 2008 7:59 AM

No more tickets?

Capacity...
Webster Hall 1400
Hiro Ballroom 500? x 2 = 1000

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:06 AM

It's just so not fair! I paid a bunch of my trust fund, ergh, hard-earned jewelry/clothes designing money to see this concert, and now THIS! My life just gets tougher and tougher by the day...

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:07 AM

she and him can go fuck him and herself

Posted by hipster poseur | April 22, 2008 8:24 AM

people who complain about trust funders need to come up with a more original diss. it's getting old

I get it
DADDY GAVE THEM MONEY

shut up

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 8:32 AM

how am i supposed to go to Tim & Eric - looks like a refund for me.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 9:00 AM

She and him sucks and are overrated...

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 9:10 AM


"you really don't have a clue how those things work"

Please, educate me!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 9:33 AM

Anon 8:32am = trust fund kid

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 9:38 AM

I don't buy into the "sickness" cancellation of Monday's show. Another example of Bowery wanting to put on one bigger show and sticking it to the fans that thought they were going to a smaller venue.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 10:13 AM

"I, for one, am not sad at all about this. Hiro Ballroom sucks to see a show and Webster Hall is pretty decent. Not a bad solution to the problem, really."

This ^^ is sarcarsm right?

Hiro Ballroom: neat little venue with excellent sight lines and a fine sound system.

Webster Hall: huge cavernous creaky mess with goons for security and staff with much attitude. Lousy sight lines, huge state of the art sound system run by a bunch of incompetent fools.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 10:19 AM

bejar vs deschanel...

BEJAR

BEJAR

duh

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 10:27 AM

"Another example of Bowery wanting to put on one bigger show and sticking it to the fans that thought they were going to a smaller venue."

Even though anon 3:53 doesn't believe me, I can promise you that Bowery Presents do not have the ability to do this without a manager or booking agent agreeing to it, or even suggesting it. If Bowery Presents unilaterally moved a show like this, no band or agent in their right mind would ever work with them. I know you guys love conspiracy theories and Market Hotel and think Bowery Presents are the devil, but I think most of you are making a lot of assumptions and using knowledge based on strange hearsay posted on this website and others.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 10:35 AM

^^^^

It's nice to know that Bowery Presents employees read Brooklynvegan haha

Posted by Jesus H. Christ | April 22, 2008 10:57 AM

I am not a Bowery Presents employee, but thanks for justifying my "conspiracy theory" accusation!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:22 AM

"If Bowery Presents unilaterally moved a show like this, no band or agent in their right mind would ever work with them."

What are you talking about? The Bowery has done this move numerous times. Look up The National.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:40 AM

Right, it happens to bands playing at shows promoted by them, but I don't think you understand that the promoter cannot do ANYTHING without the permission or instigation of the band/manager/agent. Obviously Bowery are involved and complicit, but it's not like they have the ability to just move shows willy nilly.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:45 AM

Argue all you want. It's simply not what the people paid for. I wouldn't have bought a ticket if I had known it would be at a 1,400 capacity, standing-room only venue. That's great for rock, but not for this music, overrated or not.

Posted by Man #3 | April 22, 2008 11:47 AM

^They're not saying Bowery hasn't done it before. What they're trying to say is that this is not a little scheme that BP pulls on ticket buyers...or at least not without band agent/manager approval.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:47 AM

I am also not saying it's good or right or fair. I think it sucks; if I buy a ticket for a band playing a specific venue, that's what I expect to receive in exchange for my money. BUT...it's also not fair to blame this all on Bowery Presents. They may be the messenger and enabler, but they do not hold these bands in the palm of their hands. In fact, agents and managers have BP by the balls, and can basically tell them what has to be done. BP can say "no," but no agent or manager likes being said "no" to.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:02 PM

It's pretty simple... if you don't want to see them at Webster Hall... get a refund, you dope!

Webster Hall has good sound and sightlines and is much easier to get to than Hiro.

Hiro is smaller. But let's face it, that place kinda sucks. It's too upscale. They only have Japanese beer. The sightlines SUCK if you're not in the front for a sold out show. The sound is ok, but I wouldn't say it's any better than Webster Hall.

People are just pissed because they think it's really "cool" to see such a hip act in a really small venue.

Posted by rocked the shit | April 22, 2008 12:15 PM

BP must have given some incentive to S&H's management to combine the two shows into one. Much cheaper for BP, since they are saving on costs. S&H are agreeing with the move. They don't mind screwing the fans, they just want the $$$.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:21 PM

"It's pretty simple... if you don't want to see them at Webster Hall... get a refund, you dope!"

BP does not allow refunds, at least not in the past. They are allowed to move shows and not provide refunds.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:22 PM

BP has yet to email me ( a ticketholder of yesterday's show) about details of todays show. exactly how are refunds going to work, should we opt for them instead?

and i love how they are giving us advance warning about the new date and venue. i expect the email to arrive five minutes before the door opens.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:27 PM

from bowerypresents.com:

Tonight!

Limited Tickets Just Released!
She & Him (featuring Zooey Deschanel & M. Ward)

Ola Podrida / This show has been moved from Hiro Ballroom. All tickets for 4/21 & 4/22 will be honored. Refunds available at point of purchase.

Posted by rocked the shit | April 22, 2008 12:28 PM

Refunds are for the cancelled show only.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:30 PM

"BP must have given some incentive to S&H's management to combine the two shows into one. Much cheaper for BP, since they are saving on costs. S&H are agreeing with the move. They don't mind screwing the fans, they just want the $$$."

Oh yeah, that's right this HAS to be Bowery Presents' fault somehow. Sorry, I forgot which blog I was reading.

Yes, two acts that are represented by major management firms and powerful agencies would NEVER consider doing something to maximize their profits unless Bowery Presents made them. I also really doubt BP save on costs by moving from Hiro to Webster. Last I checked Hiro was an incredibly expensive place to do a show between staff, rent, PA, etc.

I think it's possible one of them was sick, or something came up. Obviously doing something like this is bad PR and is going to piss people off, there was probably a reason that seemed perfectly justifiable to the decision-makers.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 12:31 PM

All conspiracy theory aside, its 2pm and I have yet to receive an email about this change. Thank goodness I read BrooklynVegan!

Posted by Say Hi To Your Mom | April 22, 2008 2:00 PM

If this was a grand conspiracy to sell more tickets, they probably should have put them on sale at some time before the day of the show, eh?

Posted by Scott | April 22, 2008 2:03 PM

So how many people are going to show up to Hiro tonight not knowing what's going on?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 2:11 PM

now the NYU show on 4/23 will definitely be better... does anybody know if any tickets are left?

Posted by anon | April 22, 2008 3:40 PM

what time does the nyu show start? i love thao!

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 4:07 PM

So neither BP nor Ticketmaster is going to alert ticketholders to the new date and venue change??

How do we get our money back???

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 4:24 PM

Just received an email at 4:30 PM, 2.5 hours before doors!

Posted by Say Hi To Your Mom | April 22, 2008 4:36 PM

"now the NYU show on 4/23 will definitely be better... does anybody know if any tickets are left?

Posted by anon | April 22, 2008 3:40 PM"

Apparently you have never been to skirball. The sound is terrible there. Yes the sound at Webster is actually better

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 4:43 PM

Tickets for Skirball still available online:

http://www.ticketcentral.com/index.asp?p=promocode&pid=6500&aid=

As for the theater itself, the sound is actually quite good. The M.Ward show there over a year ago was wonderful.

The sound at Webster I don't think is that bad, but definitely not better than Skirball. The atmosphere is more appropriate for She and Him as well. Plus, you get an opener with that show, right?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:02 PM

Just be happy it didn't get moved to Terminal 5

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:06 PM

"Tickets for Skirball still available online:

http://www.ticketcentral.com/index.asp?p=promocode&pid=6500&aid=

As for the theater itself, the sound is actually quite good. The M.Ward show there over a year ago was wonderful.

The sound at Webster I don't think is that bad, but definitely not better than Skirball. The atmosphere is more appropriate for She and Him as well. Plus, you get an opener with that show, right?

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 5:02 PM"

Sound at Skirball for concerts is not good. It was built for theater. Atmosphere wise that remains to be seen which is better. And Webster has an opener as well even though not as good an opener as Thao. But for those of us who are seeing Destroyer at the best place he is playing in town this week(Bowery Ballroom) Webster tonite is the only option.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 6:20 PM

Show was actually very nice. She is a beautiful girl and was really happy to be there. M Ward and the band played great. Sound was great. And for all you idiot conspiracy nuts out there, she was actually sick. She lost her voice from a cold the other day which is why they cancelled last night so as to let her rest and get it back. She could not even speak between songs so as to be able to sing tonite and tomorrow.

Posted by Anonymous | April 22, 2008 11:55 PM

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