Anyone holding?

CHRISTMAS IS CANCELLED!

"this just proves once again that we should all party in brooklyn"

abso-friggin-lutely!

the idea of "exclusive" indie parties is total bullshit. when the fuck were indie parties exclusive? wasn't it always a bunch of black hoodie/cardigan wearers in a basement somewhere, dancing to new order? this whole indie-goes-mainstream thing, it's not gonna go away and there's nothing i can do about it, but i can fucking COMPLAIN and i will.

New York I love you...but you're bringing me down...

Sayin!!

>>>>the idea of "exclusive" indie parties is total bullshit. when the fuck were indie parties exclusive?

Just because indie rockers like LCD Soundsystem doesn't mean that DFA is throwing an "indie party"

are you guys sure it was an actual list, cause most nyc clubs pretend to have guestlists, though in reality they're just an excuse to make sure that only the pretty people get in.

i just cant imagine that they would go through the effort to having such a big guestlist for what is essentialy yet another dfa party.

exclusive indie parties?
what's so INDEPENDENT about that?

YEAH!

but SRSLY

AWK can go hug cokeheads all he wants

i'd rather his band stay broken up so that Obituary can tour properly.

Wow, I'm sick of this place already.

Actually i am sort of glad they did this. It is a good idea to start trying to keep a lot of you losers out of these parties. You should not be there in the first place. You bring them down and reduce the cool factor. The crowds at Studio B parties are lame as hell when they let in just any of you. Yes, please go back to Brooklyn and keep trying to think you are what NYC nightlife is all about.

indie is a bullshit phrase we all know it - it's cool to be on interscope and dfa - how in the world are these independent? they are conglomerates. you pay taxes the state has funds they are invested in things you don't necessarily care about. you bought a sandwich out of convenience. you made a sandwich how indie!

where is the true DIY shit happening?

Maybe Todd P knows-

these comments are a never ending source of entertainment.

BV - why not discontinue posting about Manhattan entirely?

wow. you guys are all crazy. the club is not even officially open yet. this was a night for the dudes to test out the soundsystem, etc and brooklyn vegan posted it when he shouldn't have. shit happens. there will be lots of parties in your life you are not invited to. chill out.

i thought the room was great. got a peek at the upstairs too and it's going to be an amazing live venue. high stage. good sight lines.

the best was standing outside smoking a cigarette when these three dudes got turned away at the door, and one of them says to the others 'bv is gonna hear about this.' dork.

hahaha. we had no prob getting in and i looked like a trainwreck...fuckin stop bitching

anon 12:57 is definitely cooler than me and you

Jesus Christ you stupid fuck, way to jump the gun.

It was not private. There was a guest list (I don't know - maybe James Murphy's friends?!) or you could pay $5 to get in as mentioned.

We had no problems getting in. Oh wait, maybe it's beacause I had a chick with me and I'm pretty.

BV, you should've turned comments off for this post and directed people to post their comments on yesterday's post about this... event. Now there are two separate comment threads about this to keep track of.

If people were turned away for any other reason than capacity, it doesn't matter what the reason was. James Murphy didn't mention to make sure you look cool before showing up.

just don't be ugly, it's not hard

Hey Jan, I agree that that guy sounds like a dork, but honestly, you sound pretty lame yourself.

how long before this place becomes the new libation? or is it already too late?

if thats your definition of cool than id rather be with the squares

velvet ropes are not punk. very disappointed that Andrew WK would get into that sort of business. actually, im pretty sure AWK would have nothing to do with that elitist bullshit.

but really, are Obituary going to play there?

eff all this james murphy nonsense..
santo's is doomed already

might as well hand out copies of vice at the door then.

CLICHE STAMP ON YOUR HAND!

but yeah-
unless he's going to play with Six Finger Satellite again...don't mention james murphy please

James Murphy:
I'm calling you out. Me and six friends got fucked out of dancing at your Special Disco Version party last night. Private party, you've heard the whole thing by now. Come back and give us another party there, $5, just like it was supposed to be, and we'll forgive you. We really like you, but that brought us down.

maybe santo could compromise--like weekends could be 'silk-screened sneakers night', and tuesday could be 'beard night'?

I SAW JOHN NORRIS THERE LAST NIGHT. HE WAS FINGER BANGING JESSE CAMP IN THE BATHROOM. JOHN NORRIS FLOSSES WITH VELVET ROPES.

Arsenio Hall was there last night.

last night was far from a private party. i mean, they even let in some dude wearing sunglasses. what is this, jersey?

dont worry daft punk is playing at my house

Byron Allen was there too.

contrary to popular belief, john norris died 12 years ago. since then, a team of NASA scientists has been keeping him animate with a serious of pulleys and electric shocks. norris isn't, and never was, an indie music fan, preferring to keep company with rock heavyweights such as limp bizkit and the guys who play with socks on their privates. in 1995, prophetically, he even went so far as to criticize the future founder of dfa records, james murphy, for being a "poor indie party host" and a "average-at-best frontman." we continue to see mr. norris at indie events, be it a hipster show in williamsburg or an mtv handjob fest with andrew w.k., because fred durst finally wised up to the hood-winking that had been taking place for so long.

r.i.p. john norris and good choice of venues on the part of the team of NASA scientists.

jan janson = hater

the party last night was amazing. best part was definitely smoking butts outside and seeing all the unemployed poor people stand outside in the cold rain. next time, stick to your little pbr keg parties in ratty basements. now if you don't mind, i must go spend $100 on Sigur Ros and MBV tickets. unfortunately i don't think i'll be seeing any of you there either. being poor is for suckers.

Jan Janson is worse than Vampire Weekend.

so it seems jan janson's highlights of the night were a)seeing three people get turned away b)having a cigarette and c)checking out the concert space. COOL CAT

i haven't read any of the comments, but it wasn't private. you just had to know what you were going there for. all i said was that i was there for james' & pat's party and the door opened. it was all good.

Jan Janson has no friends. Even that dork he was talking about had friends! What a dweeb that Jan Janson is!

you guys really are the biggest losers on the internets. i do like BV but the comments section lately have just been douches bitching all day long about everything. i didn't go, but if i didn't get in - i think i would be ok. we live in nyc, there are a million things going on every night and get over yourselves...

now, if daft punk was playing at santo's last night... hahahahhah

Jan Janson only got in because she came with Arsenio Hall and John Norris but I heard they bounced on her early and she had to take a Greyhound bus back to Conneticut

sounds like something GBH would do...

preview of any future thread for a show at santos:

"SANTOS IS TOTALLY SUXOR!!!!!!!!!"

"WORST VENUE EVER"

"JAMES MURPHY KILLS KITTENS AT SANTOS AND THEY HIRE IMMIGRANT CHILDREN SEX WORKERS"

"I CRY AT NIGHT BECAUSE MY FRIENDS MAKE FUN OF MY SHOES"

What time do we find out who's really at fault?

"And way to print a private email that went out from James Murphy's friends and family list, and try to play it off like it was a public posting."

It *WAS* posted publicly by (apparently) James Murphy himself (link reposted from BV's post): http://forums.dfarecords.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=4421

Dorks are people too, 2014.

Update: astralgirl01 gave Jan Janson a ride back to Conecticut.

BV has a beard? Awesomez.

Do people still think bloggers are journalists ?

i think i saw jack johnson there last night

Sorry, but I just deleted the comment by "astralgrl01" threatening to kick my ass in an alley.

A piece of it is left in Anon 2:37's comment though. And as Anon 2:37 pointed out, I did not repost a "private email". I reposted information found on DFA's website.

thanks

"people on brooklyn vegan are bitching.

is it too much to ask that people know what party they're going to??? 205 is that way, too. as long as you know what's going on inside, it's all good."

This just got posted on the DFA forum. I think that's fair enough, but when I showed up last night, the bouncer asked if I was on the list, I said no, he asked me how I heard about it, I said brooklyn vegan, and he said sorry, I can't let you in. Let's get this right shall we? If you guys want to have a password let us know that we have to say it. DFA party, James Murphy, Special Disco Version, I don't care, but don't awkwardly blame us because we arrived ready to dance, buy booze, and throw some money Santo's way and help a new club get on their feet.

bv we got yo back- astroglide girl has got nothing on that- i am the anon http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/05/dfa_party_santo.html#comment-311993
and one of the three "kids" that did some investigative journalism.
dont let those connecticut girls take over our city.

enjoy your bottle service, dumbasses

awk was servin tvp sloppy joes

at DFA

oh i know why people didnt get in- they didnt dress like they were on miami vice

no, people didnt get in because they didnt blow the massive bouncers like i did

I was outside smoking and I saw the bouncer giving a dude from the Rapture a hard time about getting in. Eventually let him in though.

"I was outside smoking and I saw the bouncer giving a dude from the Rapture a hard time about getting in. Eventually let him in though."

To be more specific, it was the dude in the 70s getup.

"these comments are a never ending source of entertainment."

Yes.

aggressive exclusivity and wildly overpriced drinks are their own reward

(for the people like myself who enjoy watching you guys make asses of yourselves and part with your hard-earned cash trying to be part of the in-crowd)

the best fun is when someone really really wants in but can't get in - you're a sad fuck on both levels, for wanting into the silly exclusive treehouse in the first place, and for not getting let in.

LOSERS LOSERS LOSERS

"the best fun is when someone really really wants in but can't get in - you're a sad fuck on both levels, for wanting into the silly exclusive treehouse in the first place, and for not getting let in."

Agreed, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. People made plans and took time out of their lives to go listen to and dance to the music that DFA is associated with at a new club they advertised they be playing it at. Then they weren't let in even though they wanted to pay $5.00.

Based on your logic, if the grocery store stopped letting people in based on what they looked like, you would call the ones who didn't hear about that rule in advance, losers.

Jan Janson and treehouse. it burned to the ground as she stood outside watching dorks get turned away from her exclusive treehouse in Conneticut

all you cool bros better jump off the indie bus before its too late

will arnett gave me a handjob there last night...dude thought i was a hot chick.

anon 3:41- i just saw 5 dollar drinks and music and i went- not getting in was one of the best things that ever happened to me (aside from reading your opinion)

obama?

This is just 77 Drum bullshit all over again....

We're ramping up for a busy summer, and when stuff gets posted on a website like this one and it's inaccurate... CORRECT IT. You act professional, you address the issue, or hell, you don't promote the event. If BV wasn't supposed to post it, then again, issue a correction.

A lot of private parties go down that are never posted on BV. Some, like the Kanye show, are get posts, but they're clearly noted as private events. People don't line up, they don't bitch after, and they don't feel fucked over by some social clique snobbery shit because they were never mislead. People planned their nights, spent money for cabs, and subways, and wanted to give Santo's whatever the hell it's called some business. Is the point to revitalize nightlifes creative juices, or just replicate Disco2000 if it had been taken over by the Jersey guys in high tops sneakers.

James Murphy is a thick necked frat boy in disco clothing. Don't believe his "dance party" vibe. The dude is first and foremost a drummer and you can't take the bam bam out of him. Drummers have complexes. You know all those jokes about inferiority complexes.

Jan Janson wears high tops!

@Anon5:39 - What an idiotic comment generalizing drummers...truly the stupidist thing said on this thread. What instrument, if any, do you play? And if you do play something (which I doubt), what list of characteristics should I erroneously apply to you?

• What's the last thing a drummer says in a band?
"Hey guys, why don't we try one of my songs?

^^^Tell that to Phil Collins or Dave Grohl.

"If BV wasn't supposed to post it, then again, issue a correction."

There is nothing incorrect about this post to correct.

J'accuse!

remember Plaid? that place sucked.

Bao and I went to this place with like five dudes last week and it was apparently a private party. After three of us couldn't tell the bouncer what we were there for (we didn't even know where we were or what was happening), Bao shouted "Andrew!" and they let us in.

Rule of thumb for this sort of thing, just act like you know exactly what's going on and refer to whoever is throwing the party by their first name.

funny that people are ripping on Jersey

even we know that DFA was super over in 2002

Manifest Destiny has always been my philosophy in situations where i want in and there appears to be (in everyone else's eyes) some kind of opposition to that desire. it has been effective 99 - maybe 100% of the time - i'd just let it slide if it didn't. I have been seriously disappointed with NYC "nights" though since moving back from a couple years in LA last May. most of what goes on with regularity (on a weekly basis) is soooo generic and/or pretentious and overpriced. Another rule of thumb is that the BEST shows are usually 5 bucks. See the Cakeshop anniversary (cause co-motion, new bloods, vivian girls)! that was an exceptional night (from what i could tell)! even though i got there too late (the end of cause co) i could tell that i had missed a great night. I almost went last night just because i've been so starved to find a weekly place (like Part Time Punks in LA) to hang and dance (to non-generic music. generic = new order, dfa, etc of course) and see cool new bands. also the place has to be an ok size i guess. glasslands is ok and i'm really looking forward to this summer to change all this. starting with the Popfest (cats on fire, love is all) and some todd p shows coming up - but still where do you go where you know you can count on having an exceptionally good time every week - seeing new bands for 5 bucks or free (like part time punks, punky reggae, the smell) and hearing dj's play stuff like Orange Juice, Gina X Performance, Swell Maps, Love Is All, Drinking Electricity, Pink Military, Savage Progress etc. ? correction, where can you go to hear bands like that that isn't like forever away in Manhattan? i've heard beauty bar has a good post punk night but i dunno about that place - plus there's no bands that i know of that perform there and it's kinda overblown. i swear everywhere that i've been is farther away than anywhere i'd have to go from Silverlake in LA. NY is supposed to be easy to get around. ok i'm whining i should just go back to LA right? fair enough. it is partially my fault for living in park slope provincial (really gowannus). stillllll there's gotta be more!!!!!!!!!!!! goddamn NY! the moral of the story is i almost went to this last night and ammm sooooo glad i didn't because i've been fooled twice before in the dead of winter by false advertising fliers of parties names i won't mention for political reason i won't divulge. twice before i've made the trek out and the night was just garbage. so i'm so glad i didn't go out last night (mainly cause i'm like eh about DFA). seriously though i am starved for something i can aesthetically sink my teeth into that i don't have to spend 20 bucks on a cab to get back from after. this is more specifically applicable during the winter. it seems like i'm gonna either have to try and start something up myself or move back to LA
if i want something more than the generic dfa, new order listening crowds agenda appeals to. or perhaps i'm missing something in Bushwick? only if it wasn't once again forever and a day away - i have to move there? blah...

Wow, have any of you actually HEARD James and Pat DJ? They don't exactly drop 'generic records'—they mostly play obscure disco singles ... on actual vinyl—and neither does the label. Clearly those of you hating on DFA haven't heard the string of bizarre and ballsy singles they've put out over the past year or so, from Prinzhorn Dance School to the Death From Aboard imprint.

It's as if you're all equating DFA with "dance punk" itself, which is unfair considering the Rapture (long off the label) was one of their only acts in that vein. Seriously: Black Dice, Delia Gonzalez and Gavin Russom, Hot Chip, Syclops, Prinzhorn Dance School, Shocking Pinks ... none of this stuff is generic. I bet of the preceding bands, most of you have only heard Hot Chip (one of the ONLY inventive live dance bands out there) and (maybe) Black Dice because you were told to like them in 2002.

Yes, DFA and James Murphy are figureheads of the "scene" you've grown to hate, but it's ridiculous to fault them for it when LCD Soundsystem had one of the best albums of 2007 (hardly a simple "dance punk" record, especially the singles "Someone Great" and "All My Friends") and the label stopped releasing new-wave/disco-punk/etc. a long time ago. Hell, Hercules and Love Affair is basically gay house—not exactly the hottest trend out there in hipster land.

nah, sound of silver is way overrated. fact.

shut the fuck up, you dork.

was told there was a "hullabaloo" here at bv.

wow. um--it wasn't a private party as far as i knew. we didn't have a list at all. everyone was expected to pay if they wanted to. i feel badly that some people didn't get in that traveled to the club, and we'll make an effort to not have that happen.

but wow. some of you should maybe just stay in brooklyn. or safer--move back in with you parents, because life is clearly too rough for a lot of you.

yikes!

aw man you don't have to respond to these crackheads

FARRTTTTTT

I think, no, I KNOW Jan Janson was behind all this bullshit. Lets find out where she lives and not let her in!

Geta rope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What does Brooklyn have to do with anything, James?

These kind of promotion mixups are equally as annoying for those of us who have always lived in Manhattan.

It's really simple. You can promote events on the internet, or you can have a discriminating door policy. Make a choice though, because it's not cool to do both.

actually, and not to be a dick, i am 38 years old and last i checked i can do whatever the fuck i want, "anonymous".

i said i felt badly and would make an effort to not let it happen again.

also, my "internet promotion" was a post to the dfa forum the night before the party, which gets, max, a few hundred hits a day. maybe 20 of those people live in the new york area (and no complaints from anyone there).
i didn't post anything to this forum--someone from bv did it themselves.

"what does brooklyn have to do with it?" read the previous comments. (and, seriously, figure out how to get into a club. i've been doing it since the 80s. it's not rocket science)

"these kind of promotion mixups"????

ok-- maybe people need to start mugging fools in this city again. . . are we a hardcore band from north jersey?

to the poster who said i don't have to answer to this crap, i get it. i know. but i DO want to apologize for people not getting in. we try to be pretty thoughtful, and that's always been a pretty central thing at dfa since the beginning. of course the flipside of trying to be thoughtful is that you want to strangle tiny little anonymous internet babies. it won't stop the actually hilarious complaints--which i like--but maybe some loser with an advanced degree, a sense of entitlement and no work ethic will think for a second--just long enough to get them to shut the fuck up.

done.. aaaaaand...... done.

It's one thing to be sorry, it's another thing to get into a petty flame war, and in turn insult the people you're supposed to feel badly for.

I really resent when people use their age and years in the scene to explain and/or garner some sense of authority in terms of their dealings. I think James is only opening himself to more criticism the more he tries to justify something he never intended to do in the first place. I feel symathy for the guy.

The real problem is blog culture and the fact that a short posting on the DFA forum got picked up and taken out of context by various sites. If anything positive can be taken from this minor flare, maybe folks should rethink the authority they give to blogs in the first place. I don't even want to get into how blogs can make or break a band that has only been together three weeks . . . but the principle is the same.

Plus, his protestant work ethic and anti-education posturing is completely misguided. "Shut the fuck up"?

We all need to retain some sense of decency here. Entitlement? Come on, this is America and, more specifically, a readership (sorry BV) that, by its very definition, is entitled enough to have time to read and attend these kinds of events. This includes those musicians who make the music too. I'd be surprised to find anyone in this culture who does not feel a certain sense of entitlement.

I love the part where he says he's a grown adult and can do what he wants. Well that's a mature response. So yes, he's a grown adult and he can be as snobby as he wants, and treat people as poorly as he wants. Score one for the Murph.

There are about 90 posts above from people who'd kill to be James Murphy for a day. Haters suck.

basically.

If push comes to shove,
then its death from above (w/ anvil).

wow. either brooklyn vegan has some major noteriety or james murphy sunk to a new level (actually responding to this stupidity) i dont know about you but im having fun with this kids

i bet most people posting negative shit here are failed musicians. It's always that way. They KNOW they could do better than anyone on dfa, if only the world would have LISTENED to them and understood their genius.
You are all faggots.

Faggots?

Man, this blog culture has ebbed at an all time low. Bunch of cro mags who take their politics from the GOP!!!

If you immediately associate an anti-gay slur with people who don't share your political views as a whole, you are really not that different from the asshole who used the slur.

With whom do you associate anti-gay slurs? It's been a while since I've seen the left scrambling to promote an "anti-queer" agenda.

Asshole? Just trying to curb the lazy tendency among folks on this thread to use the kind of trash talk that, hopefully, those interested in this kind of music would prefer be left in the high school locker room.

Trust me, I am "that different" from someone who would needlessly elevate "musicians" and deplore everyone else as "faggots."

"Asshole? Just trying to curb the lazy tendency among folks on this thread to use the kind of trash talk that, hopefully, those interested in this kind of music would prefer be left in the high school locker room."

Lazy = automatically associating an anti-gay slur with Republicans in general. Anon 12:39 is dead on.

I can't believe any self-respecting person interested in exp music is even wasting their time defending the GOP. I don't consider calling into question a stupid homophobic throwaway line a "political view"; it's common sense.

Last time I checked, Republicans are the sole party in the U.S, that tries to block gay marriage.

Plus, the last time I checked, the "disco" to which James Murphy's music points was a gay bastion long before the rise of the religious right.

I walked in support of gay marriage and will be voting for Obama this year. There are still some issues on which I lean to the right. A homophobe sees all gay people as evil. You see all Republicans as evil. In that sense you are not that different from the first guy. This whole black and white outlook in politics, tolerance and a lot of other topics is one of the biggest problems in this country. If you expect tolerance from others, you need to show tolerance to people who don't share all your political views rather than stamping people's foreheads with a blue or red label.

Hey man, I am tolerant of difference of all sorts. I am less tolerant of hate speech and feel like we've been distracted by my, perhaps over simplified, association of that kind rhetoric w/ the right. I could point to countless examples of where the right continues to hold sway on issues having to do w/ race or sexual identity (see the West VA primary as just one example), but the real issue is whether we want the thread to degrade into this kind of stupid (and that's what it really is) and empty name calling.

But I do think that the slur is totally out of place on a thread dealing w/ James Murphy's disco-inspired music (a genre that owes more to gay culture, than straight). How this somehow reflects upon my tolerance of others/political differences is looking at the problem from the wrong end of the telescope. If the slur was racial or ethnic and I were to say, "this isn't the Jim Crow south, that language is inappropriate for this forum," would you call me biased against the south or against history? This whole "show tolerance to get tolerance" sounds like the kind of libertarian (oops, there I go again) smoke screen often used by those who want to allow comments that, in other contexts, would be seen as inflammatory hate-speech.

I could say "it's all good," but that kind of empty dismissal shows a real cowardice in the face of a lot of empty posturing that characterized this thread. I don't want people to give me back a cookie cutter image of my politics, but I also don't want to be forced to read this kind of hostility on a blog that is supposed to support a scene and music (in this case, James Murphy and LCD Soundsystem). . . which, generally speaking again, is pretty progressive.

Jan Janson care to comment? Oh wait you're the devil. sorry