Posted in To Do | music on June 19, 2008

Hong Kong Blood Opera headlines the show
Hong Kong Blood Opera

Hi there,

Thanks for RSVPing for tonight's VICE LIVE festivities at Santos Party House (and while we're doling out gratitude, thanks to our friends at Nokia NSeries for making it all possible).

This email is to confirm that we received your RSVP, and to give you a little rundown on how things will unfold tonight.

A LOT of people are planning on heading to Santos, which means the club will be packed to the gills, and many, many, many folks on the list will NOT be getting in. Including you, maybe.

Don't get us wrong, we want you there. But expect to wait in line, possibly for a long time, and there's a chance you might not get in at all. If you're one of those people who gets bummed out about such things, don't worry. There will be plenty of VICE parties this summer for you to attend.

Now you know the situation. Thanks for listening. See you tonight?

xoxo,
VICE

PS: Please do not reply to this email, no one will read it.

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Comments (155)

"Please do not reply to this email, no one will read it."

FAH Q

Posted by butternuts | June 19, 2008 3:31 PM

what assholes. i won't be wasting my time at this tonight.

/was that the point of the email? they overbooked the rsvp list and they want to scare people away?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:32 PM

oh man i can't wait for tonight now! i love being shit on!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:33 PM

sounds soooooooo cooooooooool omg!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:34 PM

I think their point is: More people want to go to this show than capacity. Don't cry tomorrow if you didn't get in.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:36 PM

it sounded cool, but then i saw a picture of the headliners

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:37 PM

They couldn't simply say "RSVP does not guarantee entry"? Lame.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:39 PM

my buddy just called from the venue and said that there are already at least 50 people in line. should be great.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:41 PM

"/was that the point of the email? they overbooked the rsvp list and they want to scare people away?"

They don't want people complaining tomorrow. Of course, now they are complaining today...

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:42 PM

3:39 said it better than VICE did.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:43 PM

Who the hell are Hong Kong Blood Opera?! "Many, many, many folks" will be turned away from seeing them?! Jesus. Either I'm getting old (at 27), or I'm spending too much time doing keg stands & managing my hedge fund accounts.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:44 PM

Doesn't anyone work anymore? Who the fuck has time to wait in line? Same goes for the people who waited days in line to get a free couch at IKEA. Fucking pathetic.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:45 PM

At first I thought "another lame show with more shitty bands and a pathetic crowd," but after reading that email I have to be there!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:45 PM

who are these clowns? their fuckin shoes don't even match! am i the only one who gives a shit anymore?

Posted by no, wait, i don't really give a shit and maybe never have | June 19, 2008 3:47 PM

50 people in line at fucking 4 in the afternoon? get a job?

Posted by des | June 19, 2008 3:47 PM

for the billionth time, trust funded hipsters don't have jobs. come to the music hall of williamsburg tonight at 1am for proof.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:50 PM

i was thinking about going to this but I now know that this will be the biggest circle jerk NYC has ever seen!

Thanks for saving me the trouble VICE.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:51 PM

I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees

Posted by otto | June 19, 2008 3:53 PM

you can still catch a 1:00am show and make it to work the next morning... stop being such a pussy

Posted by bob | June 19, 2008 3:54 PM

What the hell is the point of these rsvp lists? They clearly aren't doing it to reserve until capacity. Otherwise more people than they have room for would not have ben able to rsvp. If a venue holds 500 they'll let 7.000 people rsvp, and then say "you won't all get in.

Why have this email nonsense at all? It's basically just first come first serve. THey just want your email to sell it to another list. Same with all Jelly crap.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:55 PM

this sounds like a fader party

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:56 PM

Don't worry... you'll all get in. I personally rsvp'd like 400 times myself using the name "Loser" , so there will be plenty of room for everyone once the doors open.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:57 PM

These guys look like the hipster Menudo

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 3:58 PM

can you lay off the trustfund thing? I cant even say I have met anyone who has one. jesus.

Posted by die | June 19, 2008 4:06 PM

"They couldn't simply say "RSVP does not guarantee entry"? Lame."

They tried that last year with the email before the Boredoms show and it became a pretty lame internet bellyache.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:11 PM

"I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees"

otto RULES!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:11 PM

"die" has a trust fund. some of its money is managed in anonymous 3:44's hedge fund accounts.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:13 PM

Hong Kong Blood Opera is going to be huge! AS big as Tapes and Tapes if not bigger! They will play huge stadium tours just like Gang Gang Dance. The will be house hold names just like :insert VICE band name here.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:13 PM

the point of these RSVP lists? THEY GET YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS.

and that's the point of these RSVP lists.

Nobody cares whether you actually show up or not, so you can wait outside in line while "our friends at Nokia NSeries" are inside.

"Thanks to our friends at Nokia NSeries for making it all possible," you're welcome Vice!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:15 PM

Hey...I see HKBO's bandana necklaces...but where the hell are their keys around belts? Huh???

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:15 PM

the muslims are playing my local mosque. no rsvp needed.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:16 PM

this show sounds like a fucking nightmare. the Muslims are a great band and will be playing again on Saturday night @ the castle in hell. you can see Vivian girls any day of the week. hong kong blood opera look like club kids from the Bang/82 Interpol, Faint days of Hollywood Blvd. that means cheesy. blech.
oh, it's possible to be broke with a job and still make it to the music hall at 1 am. hell, i plan on catching Boyz II men at 7 am tomorrow morning and still heading into work by 8:45.

Posted by kate bush | June 19, 2008 4:17 PM

Maybe these guys saw the Sigur Ros MoMa tickets thread and freaked the fuck out.

I think it was pretty upstanding of them to send this out. There are people who don't dig overcrowded shit.

Good on them.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:18 PM

storm the barricades! er, the velvet rope...

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:18 PM

wait. this is being run by the same people in charge of that boredoms clusterfuck?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:21 PM

Piss on this shite.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:23 PM

I'm already in line.

Posted by Neil Diamond | June 19, 2008 4:23 PM

the muslims rule. vice doesn't.

Posted by A SALAM ALAIKUM | June 19, 2008 4:26 PM

just tell them you're friends with Andrew? that should get you right in.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:26 PM

terrible. awful.

this could have been put forth with a lot less of a douchebag tone.

so yes, saying RSVP does not mean you're in should cover it.

but if they had a normal person write it & not an intern from RCRD LBL or Atlantic draft their copy
they'd be better off.

Just let Artie Phillie address everything.

The man is a genius.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:29 PM

To this post:

"Doesn't anyone work anymore? Who the fuck has time to wait in line? Same goes for the people who waited days in line to get a free couch at IKEA. Fucking pathetic."

um, well let's see, hmm...
no everyone doesn't work and that means they don't have a lot of cash.
and the reason they don't work might not be their fault.
i'm a freelancer and stuff falls though.
So yeah, i might be willing to wait in a line.

Welcome to America and Fuck your attitude.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:30 PM

they already turned me away at the door

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:31 PM

i just walked by there and you'd swear they're giving away Wii's over there. Cops where there and the had kid in hand cuffs.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:33 PM

are people actually waiting in line already?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:36 PM

If I don't get into this thing I'm going to fucking die! I already told like 17 chicks to meet me there.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:39 PM

The tone of that email is like a dude who gave a girl herpes but still wants to be friends for her drug connections.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:40 PM

I'm there right now with my 3G iPhone liveblogging this shit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:41 PM

this is some funny shit. LETS BLOW SHIT UP

YAHH YAHH TRICK!

Posted by lolllll | June 19, 2008 4:41 PM

could someone please give those guys in red an atomic wedgie? that would be AAAMMMAAZZZING

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:42 PM

these dickbags just wanted to promote their dying rag (and collect people's e-mails so they can turn it over to marketing companies).

lame ass dudes those vice greyhairs just sucking people off under the table while making everyone think they got the meter on what's actually going on.

these fucking canadians need to get tarred and feathered out of nyc. and dorks from ohio too.

Posted by god below | June 19, 2008 4:43 PM

Hi there,
Thanks for RSVPing for tonight's VICE LIVE festivities at Santos Party House (and while we're doling out gratitude, thanks to our friends at Nokia NSeries for making it all possible).

This email is to confirm that we received your RSVP, and to give you a little rundown on how things will unfold tonight.

Its free so go fuck yourself you bunch of whinney snot nose silver spoon bitches who think you deserve to get in and not wait in line like anyone else.

While your blogging about how big of douche bags we are, please remember to pull the plug out of your asses and insert it in your mouths because you know the old phrase, "you think your shit don't stink?" well just to warn you, it does and it tastes even worse.

unfurtunatly people like free stuff and hey, we don't blame them. the few people that do get in will have a good time and the rest of you can kill yourselves, die, die, die..... kill yourself.

its free, go fuck yourselves.
die
die
die

love
vice
xoxo

Posted by vice | June 19, 2008 4:43 PM

YAHHH TRICK YAHHH

Posted by ANONYMOUSMOFO | June 19, 2008 4:49 PM

Soulja Boy tell em'... mexican tight pants

Posted by bob | June 19, 2008 4:49 PM

no doubt the crowd will mostly consist of douche bags like those at the silent rave. with their beards, midwestern trustfunds and lack of employment.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:49 PM

gee, the pot calling the kettle black on who's a whiny slver spoon-fed bitch.

you dweebs of all people got the entitlement game on lock talking about other people's shit not stinking.

irony went out in 1938 you fucking dorks

Posted by god below | June 19, 2008 4:50 PM

What do butt plugs have to do with this whole mess?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:51 PM

These guys sound like Panic at the Disco, why are people lining up for this?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:54 PM

IRONY
RIP
1215-1938

Posted by jerry | June 19, 2008 4:56 PM

watch the place empty out when they run out of the free alcohol.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:57 PM

The most hilarious set of comments yet on this blog. I am laughing my ass off.

For what it's worth I was just passing by the place and there is no one in line but frankly if you go to this piece of shit event tonite you are a complete fucking retard

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 4:57 PM

that irony sonofabitch lived longer than me. bah!

Posted by methuselah | June 19, 2008 4:58 PM

People are actually planning on standing in line to see HKBO? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Actually, maybe publicizing the fact they're playing is an attempt to shorten the line.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:00 PM

There's at least 75 people in line now. Stupid email hype is working. Anyone know how many people fit in this place?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:02 PM

What time does Daft Punk go on?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:04 PM

i just walked by and there are over 100 people in line now... where is Santos again?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:05 PM

The members of Hong Kong Blood Opera look like kids I used to extort lunch money from back in the day. I mean, just look at those sorry sons of bitches, man.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:05 PM

I don't even read the posts on here anymore - I skip right to the comments!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:07 PM

100 Lafayette Street, and yes, there are about 100 people there now.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:07 PM

Vivian Girls are opening! Oh wait...that joke won't work...they really ARE opening.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:07 PM

"Irony, we hardly knew ye"

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:08 PM

remember the Beethoven comments thread last summer? good times--no, great times.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:10 PM

someone in the hedge fund office just made a good point. in two months, you won't remember any of the bands playing tonight. why bother?

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:10 PM

If you actually believe there are 75 people in line now or even anyone in line now ask yourself this...what would people be standing in line for 4 or 5 hours before the show starts? The Vivian Girls-havent come close to selling out a show in nyc yet....The Muslims-have not come close to selling out one single show they have played in NYC yet....the hong komg whatevers-who?..oh some free drinks...cmon now...

Fwiw I have 2 modest mouse tickets to sell for $1000 each

Posted by A Manhattan Not Brooklyn Asshole | June 19, 2008 5:19 PM

i have 2 modest mouse for 999 each

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:21 PM

Oh and those Modest Mouse tickets for $1000 dollars will also be available for trade instead for a place in line at the front of the Vice Party at 9pm when they let people in.


Posted by A Manhattan Not Brooklyn Asshole | June 19, 2008 5:22 PM

HONK KONG BLOOD HOUND tickets are going for $1000?!

What!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:25 PM

i've been camping out for this vice event for the last two days and my once-empty 7-11 big gulp container is almost filled to capacity.

so what booze will they be serving tonight? schlitz?

Posted by god below | June 19, 2008 5:27 PM

VICE has issued a statement saying anyone turned away from the party tonight will get an Ikea couch.

Thanks VICE!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:29 PM

I've taken the day of so I can sit in one of those canvas chairs with drink pouches on the sides, and wait in a one-man line in front of the Apple Store just in case any band on VICE Records announces a last-minute show there in conjunction with a new 3G iPhone accessory.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:30 PM

"so what booze will they be serving tonight?"

Water. Booze is so over.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:30 PM

wow, how sweet vice has a heart. giving ikea couches away to to jobless Tb infested hipsters.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:31 PM

The booze is fucking 42 below Vodka and Colt 45. Expect the place to be declared a FEMA disaster site by tomorrow morning as they try to manage the vomit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:31 PM

Something about bashing Vice is so much fun!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:33 PM

Just got an email from Bowery Presents that the Modest Mouse show is cancelled and refunds will be made available. It noted that those who already purchased tickets can still come on by for a free show by The Muslims. Suck it, Vice!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:33 PM

I will whine and complain harder than anyone at this party.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:36 PM

"I will whine and complain harder than anyone at this party."

Only if you're in line posting from your iPhone 3G. There's at least 125 people there now. You probably won't be getting in.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:40 PM

"Don't get us wrong, we want you there. But expect to wait in line, possibly for a long time, and there's a chance you might not get in at all."

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:45 PM

that number of 125 people is actually a typo.

i counted 1,250 using my chinese abacus app on my jailbroken iphone while camping on line for the last two days.

Posted by god below | June 19, 2008 5:45 PM

IKEA is giving away Vampire Weekend fuck tickets this weekend.
People are in line now.
They are going to have to fuck the first 50 people. Poor kids.
hmm...

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:46 PM

this is just the same as the boredoms show last summer. so friggin' lame.

don't overbook shows. and this won't happen. they are trying to make themselves look popular. and it's pathetic.

Posted by bb | June 19, 2008 5:52 PM

Anon 5:52pm, that was the boredoms though and a really unique event. Would that many people show up to a muslims/vivian girls show???

And hey i just looked and i did not get the email but i did rsvp and got the confirmation screen. I would hate to stand on a fucking long line get to the front and have them tell me im not on the rsvp list


Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:58 PM

secret beirut show at the canal room at midnight tonight.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 5:59 PM

the poster above lies

Posted by skeptic | June 19, 2008 6:27 PM

I just walked by and saw Lou Reed standing in line. Man this party is fucking hot!

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 6:48 PM

HELLA PARTY TIME, broooooooooooo. I'm at home watching vh1 top rock concert moments about to eat my weight in twinkies because I'm so bummed out about not getting in.

Posted by Melissa Meyer | June 19, 2008 7:29 PM

AHA! We've conclusively solved the case of the Boredrums RSVP confusion in just under a years time.

Good news, there will now be plenty of room inside Santo's once all the Nancy Drews and hpister Columbos get to take a night off.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 8:04 PM

Duh. It's 2008....who still goes out anymore? The RSVP is the new PARTY. There's no actual show.

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 8:07 PM

SANTOS PARTY HOUSE
"Don't Bother Coming"

Posted by Anonymous | June 19, 2008 11:04 PM

^ yeah really

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 12:15 AM

lol i love vice. so sassy.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 12:32 AM

it was weird. i was on the list and waited for a good hour before finally getting let in but they didn't even look at the list. the guy at the door was just like "you're hot, you can come in" which I thought was fucked up and explained why it took so long.

the weirdest part was i went to the bathroom downstairs and then they wouldn't let me back upstairs (where the bands were) for about 40 minutes, so i ended up missing Vivian Girls.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 2:58 AM

Thanks for informing us that you're hot, and get into parties based on your hotness. Really useful.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 3:04 AM

worst sounding shithole in town. The $100,000 sound system does nothing to improve the acoustics of this ugly cinderblock concrete box.

sounded like absolute shit, especially during Vivian Girls. The drum mikes were feeding back relentlessly.

security and staff were ASSHOLES to boot.

terrible design, what fool dreamed up that entryway to the live show space? it's the definition of a bottleneck.

On top of that, the space is crawling with hapless and mean spirited security guards, barking nonsensical and contradictory orders at the crowd. what a nightmare!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 4:58 AM

glad i missed this for the free beirut show at canal room. show of the year!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 5:25 AM

santos party house
plastic coffee mug
fuck you
red fire engine
ryan schreiber's scrotum
rock and roll twinkie
anon 2:58
leprosy hermit

Posted by wesley willis' ghost | June 20, 2008 7:37 AM

PSA: after seeing that band at the party last night, i can safely say that i would rather continuously donate my blood while watching a chinese-language opera than watch those fools again. FOR REAL

Posted by coolio iglesias | June 20, 2008 8:02 AM

why weren't they letting people back upstairs? 50 people would go downstairs then they'd very selectively let 2 or 3 go back up 10 minutes later... wtf?

some guy behind me (and his 15 shitty nyu bro buddies) was talking about not even knowing about a guestlist and only hearing about the event 20 minutes beforehand and they let him right in. if you're not going to use it, why even bother having it?

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 9:18 AM

Satan himself could not have orchestrated a more terrible party!

Where did Santos find these security fuckers?! They were so fucking pushy it killed my buzz.

Hong Kong Blood Gang sucked so many kinds of balls.

This place needs to be shut down, it's no fucking fun at all!!!!!!!

Fuck Santos Play Ground

Fuck Vice and their mothers and their forefathers

Fuck Colt 45

Fuck Nokia N Series

Fuck Santos security, bartender, bar backs, janitors, DJ, lighting/sound techs etc

I guess that covers it

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 9:31 AM

I blame the Nokia N series

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 9:55 AM

So RSVP does not guarantee entry, nor does lack of RSVP preclude entry. Actually RSVP has absolutely nothing to do with entry, it's a technique that they use to make people think they might get in, even if they won't.

So wait on line for a really long time and if you dare to complain about the bullshit they put through for a free show, just remember to be grateful that all you had to pay for it with was your time. Lots and LOTS of your time. Now go die, because Vice is better than you.

Did I miss anything?

Posted by Sha-na-na-nonymous | June 20, 2008 10:07 AM

ok, all you whiney babies please continue to bitch about santos and stop going so the rest of us can enjoy one of the few good party places in manhattan.

you obviously knew the band would suck and it would be crowded (see comments 1-80). why go and then complain about being right?

Posted by thanks | June 20, 2008 10:09 AM

RSVP is a technique for collecting email addresses, which are valuable, hence promotions like this one.

The actual show is nothing but a loss leader for the RSVP scam. Vice/Nokia have nothing to gain by letting people into the show; they already have what they want from you.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 10:13 AM

I didn't know the sound in that place would be so such absolute terrible shit or that the security would be like angry exasperated keystone cops style.

you surprised me with them moves.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 10:17 AM

Sweet! I love the long lines and asshole security of Studio B, but I live in Manhattan. Finally a nearby alternative!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 10:20 AM

actually i had a good time last night. I got 3 free vodka drinks there was no line at the bar. The Muslims were really good, but yes the sound was terrible i didnt stick around for the last band bc it took them too long to go on. It sucks for the people who got stuck downstairs, i have no idea why they did that but I guess i got up there before they started that.

Posted by die | June 20, 2008 10:20 AM

HAHA!! My fave comment!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 9:31 AM

"Satan himself could not have orchestrated a more terrible party!

Where did Santos find these security fuckers?! They were so fucking pushy it killed my buzz.

Hong Kong Blood Gang sucked so many kinds of balls.

This place needs to be shut down, it's no fucking fun at all!!!!!!!

Fuck Santos Play Ground

Fuck Vice and their mothers and their forefathers

Fuck Colt 45

Fuck Nokia N Series

Fuck Santos security, bartender, bar backs, janitors, DJ, lighting/sound techs etc

I guess that covers it"

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 10:34 AM

Seriously, I'm getting this tattooed on my back:

"Fuck Santos Play Ground
Fuck Vice and their mothers and their forefathers
Fuck Colt 45
Fuck Nokia N Series
Fuck Santos security, bartender, bar backs, janitors, DJ, lighting/sound techs etc
I guess that covers it"

Posted by Yup | June 20, 2008 10:46 AM

wooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 10:57 AM

Sha-na-na-nonymous is responsible for last nights fiasco.

Add to the list:

Fuck Sha-na-na-nonymous

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 11:03 AM

People are hilarious. There's a huge ass line outside of the building when the place is already near capacity. You go in the downstairs lounge and people are waiting in another line to get into the packed live room. Then inside there, there's another few people waiting eagerly to get into the reserved table area. After that, people are asking if there's a secret VIP room upstairs.

Posted by chinolam | June 20, 2008 11:14 AM

I just walked by and people are already getting line for the next Vice party.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 11:18 AM

standing in line is the daft punk of 3047

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 11:36 AM

Doesn't anyone remember this quote from Bloc Party's Kele Okerke?

"VICE the brand just fills me with dread, really. It's a real kind of nasty vortex, where any decency and general compassion to other people has just been completely obliterated."

I tend to agree.

The VICE brand's core marketing strategy has always been really simple, and embarrassingly effective; they are the abusive boyfriend and you are the insecure battered girlfriend convinced of your own worthlessness and stupidity. They treat you like shit, and you come back for more.

It's disgusting, but hey, that's the whole point. This is why VICE's events are always packed with hot, young, easy, bitchy, dumb girls who are dressed in exactly what American Apparel says they should be wearing at the moment. These are psychologically battered and empty girls who are convinced that if they go to the VICE party they are, for the moment, safe in their coolness. The dudes are no different. Enticed by the promise of aforementioned weak and slutty girls, the fear of missing out on a raging party, and the need to stay connected with "what's happening," we have no choice but to show up in droves and act like hipster fratboys.

You've seen the magazine's Do's and Don't page. It's funny, but doesn't it make you feel sort of like you did in junior high when you were never safe from ridicule and always desperately afraid of being called out for some superficial flaw or fashion faux paux? Remember that kid that did all the taunting? Why did everyone love that kid? Is there some primal fear that keeps us smitten with bullies? Or does it satisfy some sadomasochistic need? Make sure you're wearing the right shoes in third period, or you're gonna get teased SO bad. Make sure you come out to the Asphyxiated Mexican Monkeys of Death show that VICE is throwing tonight, or you might as well kill yourself. Sure, you never heard of the Asphyxiated Mexican Monkeys of Death (you loser), but that's why they are SO amazing.

Now, as much as I despise their methods and their culture, it would be unfair to act like VICE doesn't often recognize and nurture real talent. They do. But, just like any other label/promoter/magazine/etc their choices are hit or miss. BUT: they've got something that the others don't - they've got you convinced that they are cooler, smarter, and better than you and that without their approval you're nothing.

So yeah, fuck VICE.

See you at the next Black Lips show.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 12:23 PM

^I kinda gotta agree with what he/she is saying

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 12:30 PM

i have to say that the fader parties havent been that bad recently. vice though has been a joke for years now. it's sad when the kids these days get excited over free cold 45's.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 12:37 PM

it's a rock show. It's new york. there will be lots more rock shows. do something else for fun once in awhile, and you might even turn out to be interesting to someone at some point. I doubt it though.

Posted by getoverit | June 20, 2008 12:43 PM

Wasn't not worth not standing in line for.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 12:53 PM

^^^Huh???

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 1:07 PM

sounds like shit in there

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 1:11 PM

worst

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 1:32 PM

Vice has agreed to adopt an orphan for every person turned away last night.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 1:33 PM

most expensive shitty sounding sound set up ever

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 1:46 PM

I hope more good touring band shows don't end up condemned to this place. it sucked ass as a live venue.

terrible bottleneck design, bad bad bad sound, angry cop-wannabe security guards in cheap suits. all the trappings of SUCK.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 2:02 PM

Vice Music doesn't really have much to do with Vice the magazine. Pretty sure they got rid of the homophobe racist who used to do the do's and don'ts section.

That said, they're still a bunch of outright assholes who could prevent this kind of shit if they even cared to. Next time someone at Vice has to write another mass RSVP clarification email they might want to reflect a bit on how soulless and retarded they are.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 3:13 PM

I don't even go to shows anymore; I just read BV comments. Far more entertaining.

Irony is dead, long live irony.

Witness the complications of someone apparently ridiculing VICE by masquerading as "vice" and amateurishly ridiculing all the ridicule-ers on BV while using poor grammar and spelling, and then being mocked in return by apparently *earnest* "anonymous" posters (which itself strikes me as ironic) who in turn allude to the death of "irony".

The postmodern condition don't fuck around.

Posted by cicero | June 20, 2008 3:52 PM

vice is way over. fader is over. mass appeal is folding. all three throw the lamest pre packaged hipster parties.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 3:58 PM

^Well said, 3:13. And yes, I've been told the same thing re: the mag and the label being seperate. But come on. The two entities have a completely symbiotic relationship (along with the marketing company that's replaced Billy Dee Williams as the new spokesman for Colt 45). They can claim to be seperate when it suits them - and on paper, in some way, that may be true - but all the while they're making the most of their affiliation, even if it's just a perceived affiliation. If you don't want to share brand identity with a "seperate" company, change your fucking name. By it's own design "VICE" is now an institution built on to-cool-for-school perversity and arrogance. It was funny and clever once, years ago, but once you've built an empire on being a scumbag, it cheapens whatever element of cool was ever there.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 4:11 PM

I'm actually pretty sure Vice Music and the magazine are pretty much the same. It's all the same office in Brooklyn. Im pretty sure they have a small staff. The label, magazine, and VBS pretty much all operate out of the same entity.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 4:12 PM

hey I had a good time

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 4:53 PM

hey,

i was at the party -- which was GREAT -- as for the door situation, no different than any other packed event -- of course there's a wait when you're at max capacity (which the place really was, unlike some other douchebag places around town that claim they are, only for you to discover there's no one inside) -- grow up, people!

stop hating on Santa's just coz this one event happened to be immensely popular

fuck this shit, I'm going to Santa's -- oh wait, I was at Santa's, bitches!

Posted by trouble | June 20, 2008 8:34 PM

I call bullshit on 8:34

the door situation was whatever, everybody knows how overpacked events work. that's not what people are complaining about.

people are ragging on your crappy spot because the live show room sounded like complete ass, I mean really really fucking concrete bomb shelter bad... and because the traffic flow into and out of that show space was totally fucked because of a poor layout that maybe made sense in terms of creating a VIP lounge, but made no sense for getting in or out of a live venue.

worse still, the security behaved like belligerent imbeciles, yelling contradicting shit at people constantly, then inexplicably refusing to let anyone enter or leave either floor for a big portion of Vivian Girls' set (which happened to be the act that the majority of people were there to see).

all and all dumb fucking event, only really worked on the level of getting captive eyeballs to look at Nokia advertising.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 9:01 PM


R.I.P

SANTOS PLAY GROUND

5-13-08 /6-19-08

We hardly knew you but the little we did know sucked balls.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2008 11:12 PM

VICE: Yay, I'm planning a party! Everyone is invited!
Fire Marshall: Uhh, there is a maximum number of people who can be in here at once.
VICE: Well, I certainly haven't learned my lesson from overbooking events in the past, let's just send out a vague email to cover our asses and keep letting people on our "exclusive list"! They will feel special if they can sign up and they will love us!

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2008 10:26 AM

The party was perfect. Santos is an amazing new venue, and any of these complaints people have had are understandable, but no different than any event where there's a huge line to get in. I thought the sound system sounded really good, so I guess it's just a matter of opinion.

Posted by Grace | June 22, 2008 11:49 PM

To all the haters out there, SANTOS PARTY HOUSE IS AWESOME! Period.

Posted by Anonymous | June 23, 2008 12:31 AM

hahahahaha....

man are you kids are fucking whiners.

Posted by roedood | June 23, 2008 10:09 AM

Wow, I never want to go to this place.

Posted by Anonymous | June 23, 2008 10:28 AM

santos is fucking lame. stick a fork in it

Posted by Anonymous | June 23, 2008 11:30 AM

¡NOW YOU KNOW WHO THESE FUCKING CLOWNS ARE!!!
HKBO KICKS ASS!
Why does everyone bitch and whine? Maybe if you had paid $100.00 a ticket you could demand satisfaction, but you got a top , albeit not so famous a show yet, for free.
What do you want... Led Zeppelin for free, so that you can say that they also suck? that they're too old?
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK, and may I never see you... WHAT A BORING BUNCH OF LOSERS!
HKBO raved!

Love,
Franco

Posted by Franco Liceé | June 26, 2008 3:23 PM

Best....Thread.....Ever....

laughed my ass off thru most of it.

this my friends, is why people think NYC is no longer "fun". We'd rather anonymously bitch, moan and blog about shit than take a chance and actually show up.

way to keep the faith...


Posted by Frank Crispo | June 28, 2008 11:33 AM

Santos Party spot has gotta be an embarrassment for Andrew WK.

I kind of feel sorry for the dude for letting his name get attached to this run of the mill, jaw droopingly poorly run show space. then I start guessing how much money they paid him to be "associated" with the space and my sympathy just floats away...

what clowns! how this ever became the "it" spot for the month, I will never understand. fastest hot / not-hot cycle ever!

Posted by Anonymous | July 6, 2008 5:28 AM

note to Vice / Santos attempt-to-save-face commenters...

didn't you learn from the 77 Drummers thread last year? It's way obvious when you pile on the phony "I disagree, it was awesome" and "you guys are whiny whiners all-you-people-need-to-grow-up-and-stop-whining" posts at the end of the threads.

nobody gives a fuck about the subject anymore this late in the game except for the people who got reamed for it. It's too late to try to make it look like there are as many people on your side as on the "you fucked up and this shut sucked" side.

by the way, you fucked up, and that shit sucked.

Posted by Anonymous | July 6, 2008 5:35 AM

Islam is a religion of peace

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