Posted in To Do | music on July 23, 2008

Hüsker Dü
Husker Du

According to this totally random list I found, the 25 'Greatest Punk Rock Artists' are:

1. The Clash
2. MC5
3. The Ramones
4. The Sex Pistols
5. The Stooges
6. Dead Kennedys
7. Fugazi
8. Black Flag
9. The Misfits
10. Bad Brains
11. Minor Threat
12. Joy Division
13. The Buzzcocks
14. Husker Du
15. Bad Religion
16. Minutemen
17. The Damned
18. The Circle Jerks
19. X
20. Television
21. Stiff Little Fingers
22. Patti Smith
23. Green Day
24. Crass
25. Gang Of Four
Luckily you don't have to choose. You can go see Television's Richard Lloyd at Southpaw tonight (July 23) and Hüsker Dü's Bob Mould at Maxwell's tomorrow (or you can see Bob Mould tonight too)

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Comments (85)

Ahh, finally - photographical evidence that silly "Rollie Fingers" moustaches never really went out of style!

Posted by Buzz Toast | July 23, 2008 2:15 PM

this list is automatically thrown out on credentials for having green day on a punk list

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:17 PM

hahaha MC5 at #2

Posted by butternuts | July 23, 2008 2:18 PM

What Would Blink-182 Do?

Posted by Buzz Toast | July 23, 2008 2:21 PM

i saw richard lloyd at otto's for those free shows in january...he is insanely good. horrible vocals but his guitar playing is unreal.

bob solo is ok but i aint going to hoboken for it.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:21 PM

And I thought Joy Division was post-punk, not punk?

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:22 PM

^ That's because you are an idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:23 PM

misfits

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:23 PM

i mean, i know we're not taking this seriously but...the sex pistols are number 4.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:23 PM

bob mould will not be playing anything resembling husker du, i reckon.
where's matt and kim on that list, anyway??

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:24 PM

How many of these bands have guitars?

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:25 PM

>>Ahh, finally - photographical evidence that silly "Rollie Fingers" moustaches never really went out of style!


well this was the early 80s....
but to think the thin neat guy with the big moustache was the "straight" one in Husker Du

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:27 PM


>>bob mould will not be playing anything resembling husker du, i reckon.


reckon' again my friend..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOkL4eLC6k

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:30 PM

Needs the Dead Boys

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:30 PM

Germs? wtf?

Posted by Moy | July 23, 2008 2:31 PM

"And I thought Joy Division was post-punk, not punk?

^ That's because you are an idiot."

Actually JD can be classified as both punk and post-punk, unless you think the original Blue Monday is punk, douche.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:31 PM

I don't even know who Hüsker Dü is!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:31 PM

This is not a Fugazi blog post.

Posted by greg | July 23, 2008 2:32 PM

anon 223:
whats wrong with sex pistols number 4?

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:34 PM

Husker Du - one of the finest bands to come out of Minneapolis.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:35 PM

Rudimentary Peni, Jawbreaker, Wipers, Nirvana, Dead Boys, Pere Ubu, Big Black, Leatherface, Dillinger Four, The Child Molesters

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:36 PM

making lists is so not punk rock.

arguing about lists is, though.

go figure.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:37 PM

nirvana was not punk. they were pixies wannabes. and where are the gits? bitches.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:38 PM

Being a pixies wannabe IS punk. Duh.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:40 PM

if you click the link youll see that joy is also rated the number 1 post punk band, and the germs are on there, but at like 34 i think. the list only really gets worse after, with bands like afi

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:45 PM

god the fucking Clash suck.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 2:52 PM

joy division is not punk

green day is so f'n lame..let the english have them

the sex pistols at #4....Lol

Posted by Black Jesus | July 23, 2008 2:57 PM

Matt & Kim

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:02 PM

"And I thought Joy Division was post-punk, not punk?

^ That's because you are an idiot."

Actually JD can be classified as both punk and post-punk, unless you think the original Blue Monday is punk, douche.


Actually, SINCE Joy Division can be classified as BOTH punk and post-punk, if one is to be confused as to which of the two labels to attribute to Joy Division, that person is an idiot.

That's okay though. I am one too as evidenced by my responding to you.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:02 PM

Cockney Rejects, Splodgenessabounds.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:09 PM

Rezillos

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:10 PM

2:34

the sex pistols are and were always a horrible horrible gimmick.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:16 PM

X-RAY SPEX!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:16 PM

Hmm, not a bad list. Must have the Dictators and Dead Boys on it. I would have put Iggy at #1 and certainly the MC5 were a major influence.

Posted by Adam | July 23, 2008 3:18 PM

2:34

the sex pistols are and were always a horrible horrible gimmick.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:16 PM

Yeah, a gimmick called punk rock. Excellent band. Certainly the most influential punk band. Excellent songs, intelligent lyrics. Fun to hate on. What more could you want?

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:24 PM

>>god the fucking Clash suck.


elaborate please.....

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:36 PM

If only the person making that list had put half as much time into it, as we did arguing about it.

MC5 is #2?! Come the f*ck on!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:39 PM

Discharge motherfuckers.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 3:44 PM

Why isn't Vivian Girls on this list?

Posted by wembley | July 23, 2008 3:58 PM

nirvana was a punk band, and better than the pixies.
to carry on the argument about what is punk and what isn't, and let me preface this by restating my loathing for matt and kim:
it doesn't matter what the instruments are
it doesn't matter when it was made
it doesn't matter how fast it's played
it doesn't matter if it's any good
punk is reactionary, a gigantic middle finger to conventional rock music, whatever that happens to be. punk rock is energy. the music itself need not be fast or simple to qualify.
therefore:
nirvana, joy division, pere ubu, and the sex pistols, even low, can be classified as punk. i don't buy post-punk as a genre, it really is just punk music that is reactionary to the first wave(s) of punk. it speaks more to the time period than to any rational classification based on music.
however, green day and the offspring and bands like that, who were merely replicating what people expect punk music should sound like for popular consumption, that stuff misses the point and should not be considered punk.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:06 PM

Why isn't Jerry Garcia on this list? Patti Smith thinks he's about as punk as they come...

Posted by Count Raffulon | July 23, 2008 4:08 PM

if i read the word punk one more time i'm going to break my macbook air.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:09 PM

Without The MC5, there would be no Stooges (or, at least not on record), thus, there would be no Ramones.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:15 PM

punk

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:15 PM

spunk

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:29 PM

The number of reasons this list should be disqualified are almost to numerous to count. Bad Religion better than both Minutemen and The Damned, throw the list out right there! But, if you replace the Misfits with Crass, I would say the top ten in pretty accurate in "most influencial", not necessarily "greatest".

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:31 PM

Rocky Napoli thinks Public Enemy and NWA should be on the list. Does anybody out there think Rocky Napoli has a point?

Posted by Rocky Napoli | July 23, 2008 4:33 PM

ahh its not that bad of a list

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 4:37 PM

that list is a joke.

Posted by ken | July 23, 2008 5:08 PM

I second Rocky Napoli's motion to ammend the list. Vote taken on motion to amend; amendment approved without objection. Vote taken on motion as amended; motion as amended approved without objection.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:20 PM

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Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:22 PM

rudimentary peni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RP! RP! RP!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:27 PM

Green Day higher on the list than Gang of Four? HA HA HA HA.......

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:40 PM

I've always had a big problem with The Ramones being considered punk.

They sound like fucking 1950's kitsch half the time for chrissakes. Sang about fricking Beach Boys shit like lil' deuce coups and 409's. Were forced (by Johnny) to wear their "uniforms" and keep certain haircuts because he thought it was a FORMULA that SOLD. Ditto for their sound. They stuck to what they thought would SELL.

Is the ANYTHING less punk than that?

Posted by fixilator | July 23, 2008 5:41 PM

wow, I couldn't agree less with the guy who said the clash sucks. but i'm sure someone will burn me for saying the same about the sex pistols. because god i hate the sex pistols!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:44 PM

green day - GREEN DAY! God is that a load of shite.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:47 PM

Ramones were bubble-gum pop with distorted guitars... at the time, the definition of punk. We're not talking about "hardcore punk".

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 5:48 PM

"At the time" punk.

Wow, that really opens things up.

So you are saying the main requirement was distorted guitars?

I think there's more to punk than that. By your definition, KISS were punk. Pop songs with distorted guitars. Or The Kinks. Or The Who Or... it goes on and on.

I guess there are probably as many definitions of punk as their are fans of punk, I definitely think the vast majority of punk fans would find simply distorted guitars as lacking.

NEXT!

Posted by fixilator | July 23, 2008 6:09 PM

Paramore

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 6:30 PM

QUOTE: "nirvana was a punk band, and better than the pixies.
to carry on the argument about what is punk and what isn't, and let me preface this by restating my loathing for matt and kim:
it doesn't matter what the instruments are
it doesn't matter when it was made
it doesn't matter how fast it's played
it doesn't matter if it's any good
punk is reactionary, a gigantic middle finger to conventional rock music, whatever that happens to be. punk rock is energy. the music itself need not be fast or simple to qualify.
therefore:
nirvana, joy division, pere ubu, and the sex pistols, even low, can be classified as punk. i don't buy post-punk as a genre, it really is just punk music that is reactionary to the first wave(s) of punk. it speaks more to the time period than to any rational classification based on music.
however, green day and the offspring and bands like that, who were merely replicating what people expect punk music should sound like for popular consumption, that stuff misses the point and should not be considered punk."


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Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 6:55 PM

Punk rock means never having to say you're sorry.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 7:19 PM

i like rocket from the tombs.

i think joy division had a lot of metal to them.

posting is lame, but i can't help it. i fail.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 8:00 PM

MISFITS!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 8:43 PM

punk is a state of mind, not a style of music BOOOYAH!!

But seriously...
If you insist on arguing that the Ramones are not punk you sound like an idiot. No they don't sound like Bad Religion, you are correct. They took rock from the rock stars and brought it down to the level of ordinary people, that is punk.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 8:48 PM

where's matt and kim on that list, anyway??

That would be lame rock!

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 9:42 PM

23. Green Day
24. Crass

Enough said.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 11:13 PM

Punk rock was over by the early 80's. It has nothing to do with loud guitars. The Talking Heads and Blondie were considered punk. How do I know? Because I used to hang out at Max's KC, CB's, Hurrah etc.. back in the day. Green Day! What a laugh. I love Joy Division & Gang of Four but they were NEVER considered punk.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 11:14 PM

The Stooges & MC5 were around before the term Punk Rock had even been used. Punk started around 75-76.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 11:40 PM

"the sex pistols are and were always a horrible horrible gimmick."

A gimmick that put out one of the most important albums in RnR history. That lp changed my life in 1977.

Posted by Anonymous | July 23, 2008 11:43 PM

Punk's not dead.

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 8:29 AM

punk is the bands from NYC in the mid-70s who were influenced by iggy and the velvets. then it happened in britian when malcom mclaren went back there to make a buck off of it.

bands like green day are influenced by punk and are sold as punk to people who don't know better. i don't even think green day would tell you that they're 'original' punk. they call themselves punk because they came out of a punk scene (gilman st) which is not bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 9:22 AM

Television built the fucking stage at CBGBs. how they are so low on this list blows my mind.

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 9:24 AM

The Sex Pistols, Ramones, Clash, Talking Heads, Television, Blondie, Damned, X Ray Spex, Crass etc. were not punk rock. There is no such thing. Malcolm Mclaren invented the term "punk" to sell more meat pies at the football pitch in the late 1940's. It was around this time that the British public were re-discovering the importance of Dada and Situationist art, which McLaren also co-opted as a cheap marketing ploy to sell the naive British working class more pasties. It was merely coincidence that 3/4 of the fans on the terraces were clad in Teddy Boy attire, what we now think of as mid 20th century "punk" fashion. It is important to remember that the music and fashion of the Teddy Boys (and later the mods, fops and dandies) is in fact a re-interpretation of the zoot suited pachucos - Asian American gangs from California most numerous during the gold rush years of the 1850's. It was the pachucos intense love of swing music, cutting edge art deco design and square dancing that laid the ground work for what is now incorrectly termed "punk rock."

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 10:33 AM

10:33, just. Kill yourself.

thx

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 11:37 AM

to the poster who asked what about The Gits, THANK YOU <3 They're amazing.

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 12:10 PM

I love it when people write things like "Nirvana were Pixies wannabees" because they once read Kurt Cobain talk about ripping them off in SPIN once. I'd love to hear the actual argument from said poster that didn't have anything to do with "Hey!" part of "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Oh and great call on Dillinger Four. That's not sarcastic.

Posted by pat | July 24, 2008 12:14 PM

From the pictures, I've always thought it's funny that the only straight Husker Du is Greg.

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 12:20 PM

is the show tonight solo acoustic or with a band. i wanna rock out

Posted by huskerfan | July 24, 2008 3:02 PM

11:37

omg! lol! No way, José!

xoxox

Posted by 10:33 | July 24, 2008 3:57 PM

3:02 PM -

think it's solo electric

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2008 4:13 PM

STOP dancing, air guitaring and clapping, you drunken asshole. Be grateful you left Maxwell's without a physical altercation (at least as far as I saw; please do tell if someone decked the fuck), because judging by your clapping alone, you weren't coordinated enough to fend off a few punches, shoves, or even a strong wind. A special thanks goes out to security for finally doing something about this idiot during the, ahem, third-to-last song. As for the fat fuck friend who stood by and did nothing, please stop going to shows. Stay home and bang your similarly fat, bald and goatee-sporting wife in mediocre fashion.

Oh, and Bob rocked.

Posted by dave | July 25, 2008 7:00 AM

I hate it when people enjoy themselves at shows too.

Posted by Anonymous | July 25, 2008 7:17 PM

^ i was there. the guy in question was actually very obnoxious, getting in Bob's space & howling during the songs. Bob himself had to say something more than once. laying down across the stage monitors because you're too drunk to stand isn't acceptable. good attempt at snark, though.

Posted by Anonymous | July 26, 2008 8:51 AM

thats just too hilarious for words. hopefully someone took pics/vids of this drunk asshole.

Posted by Anonymous | July 26, 2008 9:35 AM

Was that the fat dude's celebrated summer?

Posted by Anonymous | August 6, 2008 4:19 PM

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