Posted in music on July 30, 2008

Vineland

Texas-based C3 Presents is enjoying a run of success in Chicago. But it found the going tougher when it tried to expand its festival empire to the East Coast.

Late last year, C3 announced they were going to stage a three-day music festival on a 550-acre farm in Vineland, N.J., on Aug. 8-10. A few months later, the festival was postponed till 2009. Now, C3 co-owner Charlie Jones says, Vineland is "dead."

"That particular part of the country got too popular too fast; there are too many festivals in close proximity," he says, citing the emergence of the All Points West festival in northern New Jersey, which will be headlined Aug. 8-10 by Radiohead and Jack Johnson. All Points West is being staged by Goldenvoice, which also promotes the Coachella festival in California. [Chicago Tribune] (via)

Comments (46)

i hope it rains and thunderstorms on all three days of all points west.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 12:28 PM

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 12:38 PM

Too bad APW sucks.

Can't this area get a GOOD festival?

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 12:59 PM

Why the FUCK is Jack Johnson headlining every North American festival this summer?

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:15 PM

Its a festival, don't go see Jack Johnson and check out the other stage.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:20 PM

Yeah, two nights of Radiohead really sucks. Oh, and Animal Collective, Kings of Leon, Grizzly Bear, New Pornographers, The Felice Brothers, Chromeo, Metric, The Roots, that all sucks too.
If you don't like the lineup, stay home - nobody's got a gun to your heads.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:23 PM

Give APW a chance. If the long set format that they have decided to go with for the first year doesn't work out, maybe they will go to the typical festival format next year, with more acts and more stages. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't most of the established US fests start off small and then grow into what they are now?

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:24 PM

this site if full of "PFC Fucknuts" types..

Posted by lance corporal ray person | July 30, 2008 1:27 PM

I know it's overrr
And it never really began
But in my heart it was so real

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:28 PM

Radiohead is the only band that legitimizes this entire festival. That being said, it's legit.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:31 PM

"i hope it rains and thunderstorms on all three days of all points west."

i hope it's sunny and hot...i wanna rock my daisy duke man shorts.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:34 PM

Looking forward to Altamont 2009.


Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:41 PM

Ok, APW is not the festival we were all hoping it to be. So instead of focusing on the negatives....just enjoy what it actually is, or stay away and do somethign else fun with your weekend.
My birthday is on 8/8 and Radiohead is my favorite band. Perfect! I'll only be able to attend on Saturday but that's good enough for me.

Stop the HATE!

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:42 PM

i don't care it's your birthday. does anyone care? no.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 1:51 PM

I care anon 1:42. If I see you there, I will buy you a beer.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:05 PM

I think 1:42 wants a cookie, not a beer.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:09 PM

Inside info : WILL BERMAN will appear on the 2009 APW lineup

Posted by sean | July 30, 2008 2:09 PM

"That particular part of the country got too popular too fast"

when has jersey ever been "popular"??

Posted by jersey girl | July 30, 2008 2:15 PM

(ANON 1:42)
who gives a flying fuck about your birthday falling on the day of the festival?

So you are 15 - who gives a shit?

(ANON 1:24)
All Points Weak is a joke of a festival - with apparently NO competition to change it IF it returns in 2009. People know (most have been) there are MUCH better festivals out there. Coachella and Lolla have already taken a huge dump on APW and it hasn't even happened yet. That should tell you something about how this "festival" has come about. If it weren't for Radiohead - this festival would be a MAJOR BUST - that is a fact.

(ANON 1:20)
As far as seeing something else other than Jack Johnson - the headliners don't play against anyone - so that theory is fucked. This has been one of the critisms of APW - as it's not really a festival in the big picture of what festivals offer - choice. Whether it's the incredibly thin line-up, or the genre-themed days (hippie jam band Sunday anyone), the festival is getting flak for many a good reason.

Posted by King | July 30, 2008 2:21 PM

ANON 1"24

Yes, most fests start small, but that is yet another reason why APW is a joke - it's starting out huge and expensive - 50,000 + people a day means you better have your shit together, and put out a decent line up - which they failed to do.

Then again the first Coachella was small (and lost money) but it was so great people came back after a year off.

APW is NOTHING like that.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:24 PM

Coachella - great Festival

Lolla - great festival

Pemberton - ok festival

Roo - used to be good - not now.

Virgin - ok at best in Baltimore (better in Toronto)

APW - starting off as a joke

Vineland - never had a chance

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:28 PM

ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK
ALL POINTS WEAK

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:29 PM

APW tickets are only $15 more than Radiohead tickets at the Hollywood Bowl, and if it weren't for APW, Radiohead would just do two shows at Madison Square Garden with tickets at a similar price. With APW you get an infinitely nicer setting with several opening acts.

More big names per day would be nice, but the capacity is only 30k, so there's not enough money for them.

The lineup for day 3 is fucking shite, yes.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:31 PM

THE CAPACITY IS NOT 30,000 k!!!!!!!!!

It's more like 50k you retard

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:41 PM

I thought this website was about food

Posted by 2B | July 30, 2008 2:41 PM

I'm pretty sure the capacity is near 50k per day, from what I read in the NYDN a few weeks ago.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 2:42 PM

I am excited for going to a concert on my birthday.....sooooo uncoool!

Better that I should stand in the shadows at MHOW like a cathartic recluse?

Music can be fun and exciting....DEAL WITH IT!

I hope all of you snarky faux-Brooklyn hipster d-bags choke on your overpriced Urban Outfitter irony!

Posted by ANON 1:42 | July 30, 2008 2:42 PM

Yeah I heard 50,000 as well.

It has to be at least that, with a band ase xpensive as Radiohead. You know that Goldenvoice is going to make all the money they can - which means more tickets per day.


Posted by JoshuaT3000 | July 30, 2008 2:43 PM

jersey is fabuloussss.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 3:04 PM

50,000 a day - all trying to see Radiohead for two nights - hmmmm? I'm going to have to pass.

A Radiohead tour stop roadtrip seems a bit more fun, and rewarding at this point.

Cleveland, here I come.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 4:24 PM

yeah a HUGE benfit to seeing RH on their tour is 15-20k beats the shit out of 50k any day of the week, esp if you have seats!

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 4:25 PM

ALL POINTS WORST

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 4:26 PM

humiliation APW.

Posted by grace6697 | July 30, 2008 4:30 PM

F this so-called festival.

Radiohead show with a few more really good openers - nothing more.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 4:54 PM

"Coachella - great Festival

Lolla - great festival

Pemberton - ok festival

Roo - used to be good - not now.

Virgin - ok at best in Baltimore (better in Toronto)

APW - starting off as a joke

Vineland - never had a chance"

You forgot Sasquatch, which had a killer lineup this year.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 5:56 PM

For stage layout, drivability from NYC, & smallish crowd size, you can't beat Osheaga. If the headliners weren't so damn awful this year I'd be there.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 6:07 PM

^^^Oh what a surprise, Jack Johnson is headlining that festival too.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 8:15 PM

""Coachella - great Festival

Lolla - great festival

Pemberton - ok festival

Roo - used to be good - not now.

Virgin - ok at best in Baltimore (better in Toronto)

APW - starting off as a joke

Vineland - never had a chance"

You forgot Sasquatch, which had a killer lineup this year."

rothbury? acl? youre missing some good ones

and have you even been to all these shows?

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 8:21 PM

Roo was ridiculously good this year. minus the Kanye fiasco.

Posted by grace6697 | July 30, 2008 9:33 PM

ATP NY anyone?

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 10:20 PM

radiohead in camden on 8/12 - hello...

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 10:21 PM

People who are excited about Lollapalooza and hating on APW: Have you been to Lolla? It's the most corporate, crowded, hot (not their fault I realize) festival in the US, and while they normally land ace headliners, 75% of the bands are usually crappy. And it takes about 25 minutes to walk from one stage to another.

The All Points West lineup isn't really that bad. I'm looking forward to a much greater % of acts there than I am at Lollapalooza. There are a lot of great bands playing it. Apparently you need 5 headliners (like Lollapalooza) and to sell 75,000 tickets to impress people in NYC. And that's WAY too many for you guys to be comfortable.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. At least you have the Internet to keep you company.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 10:27 PM

"At least you have the Internet to keep you company."

And yr mom

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 10:31 PM

Wow, that stings!

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 10:33 PM

"Oh, and Animal Collective, Kings of Leon, Grizzly Bear, New Pornographers, The Felice Brothers, Chromeo, Metric, The Roots, that all sucks too."

All those bands routinely play NY and rarely sell out a show. Chromeo? Are you serious? I'm not saying they are bad, just saying that they do not make a festival.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 11:15 PM

No more often than bands playing Lollapalooza play Chicago, etc.

Posted by Anonymous | July 30, 2008 11:40 PM

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