Posted in music | tour dates | video on July 7, 2008

by Black Bubblegum

VODNYC hardcore (update: metalcore) legends Vision Of Disorder have reunited (again), and will play a show at Club Loaded in Farmingdale, NY. Tickets are on sale.

The band is readying a DVD for release which was shot at their 2006 reunion shows in Levittown, NY. Video trailer and reunion flyer below....




Comments (39)

they aren't legends. and they aren't hardcore.

worthless metalcore band

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:01 PM

This is depressing.

Posted by Yeah | July 7, 2008 2:10 PM

Hardcore Band?

Didn't they spend 90% of their career trying to be Pantera and talking shit about hardcore?

This band is a case study in delusional nonsense.

Posted by Fuck That | July 7, 2008 2:14 PM

dropping the opressor is the only solution. or, not dropping the opressor. either way is fine with me.

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:15 PM

hilarious..what a garbage band! what year is this..1997?

Posted by hipster poseur | July 7, 2008 2:20 PM



Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:21 PM

strong isle REPRAZENT!

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 2:30 PM

screw the haters...everyone and their grandmother was jocking this band in the mid 90's

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 3:04 PM

if you dont know their history then shut the fuck up...this band grew up in the LONG ISLAND HARDCORE scene, they are a hardcore band the had metal tinge.....bullshit anyone calling them metal core a term used for atreyu and all those garbage bands....
aside from that people should go to see one of the best hardcore bands play MIND OVER MATTER.

Posted by dead | July 7, 2008 3:18 PM

yeah everyone, shut up. this band grew up in the LONG ISLAND HARDCORE scene.

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 3:23 PM

Their first single fuckin blew everyone's doors off. I remember going to the P.W.A.C. for one of their shows. There was a line around the whole building and down the block. Looking into the parking lot and seeing license plates from far away.

So knock them when you can. These boys did real good. go listen to that awful Death Cab Record.

Wrong Island is more like it.

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 3:29 PM

they were always dorks from long island.

i recently rented the NYHC documentary and couldnt believe how horrible the music was...except for no redeeming social value...biddibo!

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 3:40 PM


Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 3:46 PM

VOD on how their band relates to the hardcore scene:

"I would say it's got balls. I think we will fit into the nu metal scene- I think we will define our own area of the nu metal scene- but I think we can hang with bands like the Deftones and Godsmack. As far as it appealing, we have a couple of singles on the record that are going to attract that crowd and at the same time I think there are a couple of songs that can attract people that listen to Slipknot or even Stone Temple Pilots. I think we've always had VOD fans and we will always have them and we will continue to find new fans on the road."

Yeah - dudes were definitely a hardcore band. Hardcore like Godsmack.

Posted by Hilarious | July 7, 2008 4:04 PM

"people should go to see one of the best hardcore bands play MIND OVER MATTER."

Your out of your fucking mind if you think Mind Over Matter is one of the best hardcore bands.

Posted by What? | July 7, 2008 4:13 PM

The green dot album is kinda sick you've got to admit it. All musical classifications aside.

Posted by Matt | July 7, 2008 4:31 PM

I'm sorry but I don't really think the "hardcore" label fits with this band, they sound alot like Pantera to me. I believe "mosh metal" is the word for this genre.

DYS, SSD, YOT, Gorilla Biscuits were hardcore, not this.

Posted by ray kapo | July 7, 2008 5:24 PM

not out of my mind and very serious.... they are one of the best hardcore bands that not many have every heard of.... and i dont care if nobody agrees... ive seen so many great hardcore bands play especially being a native new yorker and i will still say they are one of the best!

VOD still a hardcore band pull whatever interview you want all that shit is record label bullshit...i never said i like the people in the band, just the band.

and for someone to say that the only good band on the NYHC doc is NRSV is fucking crazy...that band was and will always be a joke...not to say they arent a good time but they are probably the worst band on in that doc next to 25ta life....but hey thats all a matter of opinion.

Posted by rotting corpse | July 7, 2008 5:30 PM

Record Label Bullshit?

That quote was from the guitar player. There are dozens of interviews online where the band would tell people they didn't want anything to do with hardcore and then would talk about how psyched they were to be on Ozzfest.

Face it dudes, your psyched that a band from the Ozzfest second stage in 1998 is getting back together. You and the meat head waiting for the Mudvayne or Powerman 5000 show are exactly the same except, chances are your older and have worse tattoos.

Posted by Rick Ta Life | July 7, 2008 5:40 PM

Everybody who is saying they aren't a hardcore band wasn't in the hardcore scene in the mid 90's. That music was all very metal sounding (25 ta life, skarhead), but it was hardcore.

They were a scene band, definitely were hardcore. They turned into a shitty metal core band, but that first 7" on Moocow records was amazing hardcore.

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 5:42 PM

"DYS, SSD, YOT, Gorilla Biscuits were hardcore, not this. "

Seriously? Those are all eighties bands. Hardcore kept going, you just got SOFT!

Posted by Anonymous | July 7, 2008 5:45 PM

This commentary is pretty funny...but as a former or always hardcore kid, and avid brooklyn vegan reader, it's hard not to weigh in...

The first hc show I ever went to was the first show ever (I'm pretty sure) at the PWAC... VOD headlined, the day Kurt Cobain killed they were always kinda special to me in a weird way.

Growing up in the LIHC scene, there was no doubt (at least at one point) VOD were a hardcore band.

While those guys, I'm sure, were total metalheads growing up (like so many other kids that went to shows back then), they sprouted out of the LIHC scene and were an integral part of creating the LIHC scene in the early-mid 90's.

Their best music were their demos, live tapes (on Crucial Chaos and that station in LI), split with Loyal to None, and 7"..everything from there just went straight down hill.

Of course they tried to fit in and be part of the metal core scene, "sell out" or whatever you may say... but their hey day were their days playing hc shows at the PWAC, Right Track In, Roxy, etc.

They were pretty sick back then, but with drugs and metal core dreams, unfortunately they faded away...

Posted by the rhythm of the ak | July 7, 2008 5:47 PM

actually im psyched because they were a band I saw in the early 90's LIHC hardcore of my first shows was that insane NORTHPORT PIPELINE show, if you are an LIHC you know about the insane show i mention....

AGREE with ya for the most part "Posted by the rhythm of the ak | July 7, 2008 5:47 PM"

Posted by rotting corpse | July 7, 2008 8:23 PM

right track inn! there's a blast from the past.

science diet is reuniting!

Posted by god below | July 7, 2008 9:41 PM

Yes I remember the 90s quite well. It was when people started playing music that sounded like Pantera in basements and called it hardcore. Bands took the slow parts from Breakdown and Raw Deal then cut out all the fast parts for a two- to four-minute mosh part. People might see it differently and that is fine of course.

I think Fucked Up and Career Suicide are great current hardcore bands. Good luck to them, though I don't see how they can ever be that popular. Too weird for the kids, too abrasive for the lighter, more popular side of indie, hipster, whatever.

(PS-I don't totally hate the 90s. I think VOD are quite bad though. There were some good records from then like Born Against, Citizens Arrest - and the Ringworm demo is quite great and quite metal, like the Breakdown '87 demo meets "And Justice for All" or something?)

Posted by ray kapo | July 7, 2008 9:49 PM

To the guy who claims that whoever thinks VOD wasn't hardcore wasn't in the scene in the 90's - don't be so self absorbed.

I saw them at PWAC, I bled all over the floor at CBGB's & Deja One and it was pretty clear that as soon as they released that 7 inch and the tapes of the crucial chaos recordings got around, they had already peaked and were very quickly distancing themselves from hardcore in hopes of being Korn.

Everyone who was around then remembered reading interview after interview where they talked shit about hardcore and for those of us more closely connectected to the "scene", we remember them refusing to tour with actual hardcore bands that came from the same scene as them because they wanted to be considered metal and not hardcore. They were not about any scene or anything like that, once they got big enough to be a leader in it. Quite frankly, they started to savagely suck after that too with Imprint and the albums to follow. For all it's worth, that Roadrunner record is only good in spite of itself as the band sound retarded on it.

The point is, these guys wanted nothing to do with hardcore other than to take advantage of the kids in it and to use them as a springboard to MTV. When that didn't happen for them they came back around revising history and claiming they were members of Minor Threat or something.

They're as hardcore as Mudvayne.

More importantly than whether or not they were hardcore is the fact that they've already reunited over and over and it's so tired and lame.

Hey VOD - Fuck off, seriously.

Posted by Whatever | July 7, 2008 10:40 PM

They definitely turned into a douchemetal band but their roots were in the hardcore scene which they abandoned. I think we all agree. Now lets never talk about VOD or horrible blonde dreadlocks again.

Posted by Anonymous | July 8, 2008 9:30 AM

I'll weigh in here since I'm also a former hardcore kid who was in the scene back in the early to mid '90s. First off, my views on this topic are quite similar to ray kapo, esp. the 9:49 comment. With that said, I don't have anything against VOD or any other bands here, but they're just not my cup of tea. I saw them once in '97 and just didn't care for them at all, but I sense that by that point it was past their prime from the other comments on here. I never really followed them so I'm not sure.

Current hardcore bands like Fucked Up, Career Suicide, et al., however, are much more to my liking. I'm just psyched that Mind over Matter (who I saw a few times in New Brunswick, NJ in '93 or so and had their 1st couple 7"s) is getting mentioned on here. I didn't even notice they were playing. I liked them back in the day and am amazed that they reunited. It's also nice to see Born Against, Citzens Arrest and Ringworm (!) get mentioned on here. Now I won't be surprised if tomorrow someone starts a comments thread about Hell No or Assfactor 4 or Heroin or other bands like that.

Posted by Matt Berlyant | July 8, 2008 2:02 PM

Heroin, 1.6 band, born against, rorshach, and angel hair are some of my other favorite 90s hc more psyched about Mind Over Matter reunion than VOD. but this will be a fun show regardless....VOD def slipped after their first LP, I agree it was downhill but to hear choke and some of the old gems will be cool.
Im not a fan of FUCKED UP or Career Suicide, i dont really dig any of the new "hardcore" bands....although I am pumped about the most recent CURSED album....does anyone remember IRE or the BLACK HAND....both awesome bands related to CURSED.

Posted by rotting corpse | July 8, 2008 2:50 PM

Rotting corpse wrote above:"Heroin, 1.6 band, born against, rorshach, and angel hair are some of my other favorite 90s hc more psyched about Mind Over Matter reunion than VOD."

Now you're speaking my language. I like all of the above bands you mentioned and remember collecting their records back in the day. Of those bands, I only got to see Rorschach and only once at that. It was at Middlesex County College back in January '93. They played with Sheer Terror and one other band that I can't remember right now. It was awesome. I did have the chance to see Born Against a few times in '91, but I was 16, didn't have my license yet and had just moved, so I didn't have anyone to go with to drive me.

Posted by Matt Berlyant | July 9, 2008 10:00 AM

please do us all a favor and take your stupid labels and shove it up your asses. who cares what you want to call it....hardcore, metal...blah blah blah. it was good music that was way ahead of its time. if you can't admit that then you're ignorant.

Posted by fed up | July 29, 2008 1:02 AM

VOD rules! but the weebles were better!

Posted by warpedweeblewobble | August 16, 2008 1:47 PM

Posted by Anonymous | August 17, 2008 9:44 PM

I want to express that growing up on the island and discovering LIVE music (going to shows)...
I discovered about NYHC and ska...from the PWAC (hardcore) DEJA ONE (ska).

The early 90's of Long Island...both scenes
made an impact.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion...RESPECT.

VOD will be NYHC..and even MADBALL!!! those were the good 'ole times.

Peace out.

Posted by cindy | August 18, 2008 8:17 AM

i was snowboarding at mt. creek and tim williams just happened to get on the lift next to me. i've been going to shows, playing in bands my whole life and seen his band many times, met him a couple times, but didn't recognize him at first. my buddy and i were chatting about a show we went to in montreal with sick of it all (best show ever!) and tim said "i used to play in a HARDCORE band. we opened for sick of it all. don't know if you ever heard of us or not. we were called vision of disorder."

it was pretty cool, to say the least, to be snowboarding with this guy - who was actually pretty decent at it. then he started telling us he now plays with a METAL band now, because that is the direction VOD was heading. At the time, his new band had not released a cd. pretty sure it was bloodsimple.

I've never heard tim "talking shit" about NYHC. I'm not saying he didn't but whenever i talked to him, he wasn't like that at all. the band just started moving in different directions.

just thought i'd post a story that may clear some shit up here.

Posted by 888 | August 18, 2008 11:46 PM

Sunday, 11/16/08 - Vision of Disorder with Indecision, Overcast, Nassau Chainsaw
Irving Plaza

Posted by Brian | August 28, 2008 2:03 PM

23 minutes too late :)

Posted by Brian | August 28, 2008 2:34 PM

Holy crap - I haven't thought of the PWAC in maybe 15 years. Thanks for the flashback ~

Posted by mel | August 7, 2009 11:50 PM

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