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The National - official "Mr. November" Obama T Shirts
Mr November

Tickets are now on sale (thx all) for NY Mag's National / Grizzly Bear / Stella 40th anniversary show at Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC on October 10th. All National dates below...

The National - (Obama Is) Mr. November (unofficial, Obama fan made videos)

The National - 2008 Tour Dates
19 SEP: SEATTLE, WA - CO-OPS ROCK! BENEFIT w/ MENOMENA
20 SEP: SAN DIEGO, CA - STREET SCENE
10 OCT: NEW YORK, NY - HAMMERSTEIN BALLROOM w/ GRIZZLY BEAR
24 OCT: RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL - TIM FESTIVAL
25 OCT: SAO PAULO, BRAZIL - TIM FESTIVAL
27 OCT: VITORIA, BRAZIL - UFES THEATRE
08 NOV: AUSTIN, TX - FUN FUN FUN FEST

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Comments (95)

booooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrring

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:55 AM

You can only buy one ticket, and it's 21 and over. I'm screwed both ways. Sigh

Posted by Will | August 28, 2008 10:56 AM

the national were a let down at summerstage.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:58 AM

"Official"? So fucking what. You can't copyright a title.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:03 AM

"You can only buy one ticket, and it's 21 and over. I'm screwed both ways. Sigh"

Why would a show at Hammerstein Ballroom be 21+?

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:03 AM

"Why would a show at Hammerstein Ballroom be 21+?"

They probably have an alcohol sponsor

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:06 AM

>>>>"Official"? So fucking what. You can't copyright a title.

Official means the band put it out and not a fan. Nobody claimed any copyrights. CHILL........OUT

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:10 AM

screw this one. the national are playing themselves out and i'd rather see grizzly bear in a better venue once they have a new album to support.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:11 AM

National losers!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:11 AM

That shirt is gonna be sooooo ironically funny come Nov. Gotta get me one of those!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:12 AM

that shirt is stupid and i'll punch you if i see you wearing it. but, ha, i kid. well, at least about the punching you part.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:14 AM

Hard to believe that culturally aware young-ish people reading this blog are voting McCain. Jesus, people. Have the last 8 years not been bad enough for you?

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:18 AM

^^amen

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:32 AM

"Hard to believe that culturally aware young-ish people reading this blog are voting McCain. Jesus, people. Have the last 8 years not been bad enough for you?"

FUCK YOU! McNasty in the 08' HALLA!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:33 AM

Culturally aware??? Hahahahaha Have you read the comments on this blog? Between the "I'd hit it's" and the "Terminal 5 sucks" these idiots wouldn't be able to tell you who the current prez is.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:33 AM

Michelle Obama's face looks if you smacked her just at the right moment, you'd get a star on Tyson's Punch Out.

Posted by Little Mac | August 28, 2008 11:36 AM

"Hard to believe that culturally aware young-ish people reading this blog are voting McCain. Jesus, people. Have the last 8 years not been bad enough for you?"

BUT HE'S A POW!!!!!! OMGZzzz!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:38 AM

Obama's a joke.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:40 AM


McCain is less likely to take money away from my trustfund.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:00 PM

People who vote republican are jokes.
Go read your Bibles and suck on the end of your guns you useless fucktards.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:02 PM

Go read your communist manifesto, parasite.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:03 PM

All I care about is protecting my rich parents money. They pay for my williamsburg apartment and my coke habit. Vote McCain.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:09 PM

"the national were a let down at summerstage."

what fucking show were you at?! guess you are voting mccain too.. =(

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:10 PM

I am constantly amazed by the number of comments from Republicans on BV. The only explanation can be some fucking campaing workers trying to infiltrate this demographic. No one with any common sense would vote for McCain... don't even try to tell me otherwise, i wouldn't believe you.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:12 PM

McCain = Bush. Obama = Change.

You people really don't think we need a change?

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:12 PM

I would vote for a retarded, black, jewish, woman that was 35 year old before I would vote for McCain!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:18 PM

ha. you people can't detect sarcasm? i don't think anyone here is pro mccain.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:21 PM

Obama still hasn't recognized the primacy of the free market that protects our parents' money (and ours once we graduate). Despite the fact that he has an economic adviser from the University of Chicago (which that awful Marxist-Leninist, Naomi Klein, whined about), he is still a tax and spend Democrat in the tradition of FDR and LBJ.

You either pull yourself up by your own bootstraps or GET OUT. No handouts to welfare mama's. Military spending is fine because it will save Israel from the Iranian and Palestinian Nazis.

Got my ticket, btw. Great band.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:33 PM

McNasty in the 08!

I'm just listening to Joe Biden pre his VP nod: "Obama is not ready to be President."

conservatives suck. liberals suck worse.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:34 PM

The only thing obama has ever done that's of any worth whatsoever is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWpvkLCvu4

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:39 PM

12:33 - Well said.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:47 PM

he won't fuck us over.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:52 PM

Was George Bush "ready to be president"? George Bush has proven you can be a C student, failed businessman, with very little experience and still be elected.
I think the main factor whether someone is ready or not is intelligence. Something that Obama has way more of than McCain (who graduated 5th from last from the naval academy). I really don't think someone who knows so little about world affairs is ready to be president. He doesn't even know the difference between shiite & Sunni! He voted with George Bush (the worst president in history BY FAR) 95% of the time.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:54 PM

Have you ever been a friend or business associate of a terrorist? Not someone who, to your shock and horror, turned out secretly to have bombed government buildings. No, the question is whether you’ve ever befriended an unreconstructed radical whose past was well known to you when you entered his orbit and walked through doors he opened for you. Have you been chummy with an unapologetic terrorist who, years after you’d known and worked closely with him, was still telling the New York Times he regretted only failing to carry out more attacks — and that America still “makes me want to puke”?

Barack Obama has.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:58 PM

Hey kids, Carter was THE WORST.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 12:59 PM

George Bush/McCain America makes ME want to puke!
Compared to George Bush, Carter was a fucking GOD!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:04 PM

I'm voting for Obama cause I hate Bush more than Osama Bin Laden...and that's b/c I'm a naive douche.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:19 PM

"Hey kids, Carter was THE WORST."

How much off the bad stuff back then was Carter's fault? How much was he just a victim of the times like everyone else?

Carter took responsibility for the failure of the military mission to rescue the hostages in Teheran. As far as I know, Dubya hasn't even taken responsibility for relying on intelligence on WMDs that turned out to be wrong, much less for any of the military's failures in Iraq.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:24 PM

Im still laughing about "McNasty".

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:24 PM

That first video was pretty awesome!

Anyone here who thinks McCain is any better than Bush is kidding themselves. The guy is actually WORSE than Bush! Wake up !

Posted by Rohan | August 28, 2008 1:37 PM

Carter is a islamic terrorist apologist and an anti-Semite. So, if you're into that sort of thing, he's great!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:40 PM

anti-semite? for telling the isreali govt. to do more for peace?

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 1:47 PM

Even as Islamic Hitlerites gather in Iran to deny the first Holocaust of the Jews and to plot the second, former president Jimmy Carter tours America with a new book that describes Jews as racists and oppressors, and suggests they are also a conspiratorial mafia that intimidates “critics,” controls America’s media and war policy, and are therefore also the source of Islamic terrorism and the Arabs’ genocidal campaign to eliminate them from the map of the Middle East.


In other words, Americans beware of the Jew in your midst.

Here is Carter’s description of the Middle East conflict in his own words, delivered during an interview he gave on National Public Radio during the second day of the Holocaust deniers’ conference in Teheran:

“I have spent a lot of time in Palestine in recent years. … The Palestinians have had their own land, first of all, occupied and then confiscated and then colonized. They’ve been excluded from their own gardens and fields, and pastures and churches. They have been severely restrained in their movements. They have to have different kinds of passes to go through different checkpoints inside their own lands on their own roads. The Israelis have built more than 200 settlements inside Palestine.They connect these settlements with very nice roads for the Israeli settlers, and then superhighways and so forth going into Jerusalem. Quite often the Palestinians are prevented from even riding on those roads that have been built in their own territory. So this has been in many ways worse than it was in South Africa.”

When hundreds of millions of Muslims are calling for the extermination of the Jews of Israel this is more than a lie; it is a blood libel.

It is a lie that Palestinians “had their own land, first of all, occupied.” This is like saying that Texans had their own land occupied by Hispanics, ignoring the fact that Hispanics were there first. The very word Palestine is a Roman appellation for the people called Philistines, who were not Arabs but red-haired sailors from the Aegean. The Jews were there as well.

In short, first of all the Jews were in the land before the Arabs.

Second of all, the Arabs who inhabited the Palestine Mandate in 1948, at the time of the creation the state of Israel, considered themselves Syrians.

Third, the Palestine Mandate was not created on land taken from the Syrians or the Arabs. It was taken from the Turks.

It was not taken from the Turks by the Jews, but by the British and the French. They took it because Turkey sided with Germany in the First World War and, of course, lost. The Turkish empire had ruled the entire region including Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Jordan for four hundred years before Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Jordan were artificially created by the English and the French. Jordan – a state whose majority is Palestinian – occupies 80% of the Palestine Mandate.

So it is a preposterous lie to say that the Palestinians had their own land and that it was occupied by the Jews.

Fourth, the individual plots of land that Jews now own were in the first instance bought from the Arabs who regarded themselves as Syrians and who lived in the area of Israel. The only property that was confiscated was confiscated as a spoil of the aggressive war that five Arab states waged against Israel from the day of its birth. Five Arab armies invaded Israel, a sovereign state, with the declared intent of “pushing the Jews into the sea.” The cry today of the Muslim majority in the Middle East is to “liberate Palestine from the river to the sea.” In other words push the Jews into the sea.

By the standards of occupation and legitimacy Jimmy Carter invokes, Israel has more legitimacy as a Jewish state than Texas does as an American state, rather than a Mexican province.

The fifth Jimmy Carter lie in this lone Jimmy Carter sentence is the claim that the Jews have colonized anything. “The Israelis have built more than 200 settlements inside Palestine.”

Why is it wrong of the Jews to live in the West Bank? (The 7000 Jews of Gaza, of course, have already been expunged as result of the Arabs’ genocidal hate.) Why can’t Jews have settlements in the West Bank?

The answer is because the Palestinians Arabs are filled with a racist and theocratic hate towards the Jews. They can’t tolerate a non-Muslim, non-Arab people --however small a minority -- living in their midst. (The 7000 Jews of Gaza – out of a population of 1.2 million – were law-abiding and peaceful and created a horticultural industry that produced ten percent of Gaza’s gross national product. But they were Jews. And that was intolerable to Palestine’s Nazis. So they had to be removed.)

Contrast Carter’s attack on Jews living in the West bank as “colonizers” who must be expelled with the fact that more than a million Arabs live in Israel, where Israel provides them with more rights – including the right to vote and elect Arab members of Israel’s government – than any Arab who lives in any Arab state in the Middle East.

There is indeed a wall now between Israel and the Palestinian Arabs. But it is not a wall to keep Arabs out of Israel because they are Arab, as Carter maliciously maintains. There are more than a million Arabs living in Israel. There are indeed checkpoints in the West Bank and into Israel and obstacles to Palestinians crossing them. But this is not because the Israelis discriminate against Palestinians because they are Muslims or Arabs.

It is because too many Palestinians have shown themselves to be bloodthirsty, murderers who have been indoctrinated by their religious leaders and their government to believe in a sick Islamic fantasy that it is their Muslim duty to kill Jews by blowing themselves up; and that, if they do so, they will go to heaven along with 70 members of their family; and, that, if they are lucky enough to be male they will be rewarded by 72 virgins on the other side.

On this side they will be regarded as martyrs and saints and honored by their government. Sixty-percent of Palestinians support suicide bombing and this sick, genocidal agenda – which is shared by all members of the Palestinians’ democratically elected government – to kill the Jews.

To ignore these facts and to invert them, as Jimmy Carter does, is to mark yourself as a moral defective.

To take on as a mission the spreading of lies that enable Islamic Nazis to carry out their final solution is the epitome of the evil that America’s fifth column left and its reprehensible ex-President represent in our time.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:01 PM

BOO (we hate Obama promotion.)

Posted by The JIDF | August 28, 2008 2:04 PM

1:47 - Get a fucking clue.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:04 PM

OBAMA AND MCCAIN MAKE ME WANNA RALPH!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:27 PM

most every topic on this site is filled with bullshit, but this one really takes the cake.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:36 PM

ANYONE, like carter, who tells israel to negotiate for peace with those arabs is obviously an appeaser and an anti-semite.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:43 PM

So BV comments now not only infiltrated by McCain campaign staff, but by AIPAC as well? This is a weird day.

Obama's not perfect, but he's the best we've got at the moment. He's smart as hell and contra the asinine comments above is quite centrist (personally I wish he was the lefty Conservatives claim him to be - he's most certainly not). Hope he wins.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:44 PM

He's gotta a smile so bright... you know he could've been a candle!

Posted by greg | August 28, 2008 2:52 PM

"Obama's not perfect, but he's the best we've got at the moment. He's smart as hell..."

BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 2:56 PM

Have you ever been a friend or business associate of a terrorist? Not someone who, to your shock and horror, turned out secretly to have bombed government buildings. No, the question is whether you’ve ever befriended an unreconstructed radical whose past was well known to you when you entered his orbit and walked through doors he opened for you. Have you been chummy with an unapologetic terrorist who, years after you’d known and worked closely with him, was still telling the New York Times he regretted only failing to carry out more attacks — and that America still “makes me want to puke”?

Barack Obama has.

HAHAHA WHAT A FUCKING JOKE THIS POST IS!!!!! LOL!

Who invited Rush Limballs in here.

Seriously though, This is a bunch of GOP garbage - read up on it if you need to, but we all republicans won't do that, they like their politics spoon fed and false... and stupid.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 3:03 PM

dear bv

i know it drives your pageviews up, but for the love of god can you turn off comments for a day once a month or something? i'd be happy to give up free speech in exchange for not wanting to stab myself in the eye once a month.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 3:08 PM

Um - just would like to point out that the GOP got us in this truly awful place we are in now.

Why can't anyone remember this is beyond me - we are in a no win ar that costs 10 billion kazillion dollars a month, our economy is in the shitter and we as American can't even travel anywhere because everyone hates us so much. Jesus McCain supports - what kool aid are you drinking? That's some powerful shit.

Obama is not perfect, but he offers a CHANCE a new dircetion and that is 10 times better than where McSame plans on taking us... i.e. worse off.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 3:09 PM

Don't be a fucking douchbag - vote Obama.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 3:10 PM

I though John McCain was dead?

He looks dead. His policies are dead. Our futures are dead with him as a "leader".


08ama

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 3:11 PM

"Obama's not perfect, but he's the best we've got at the moment. He's smart as hell..."

BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

OK, so now the Republican meme is that Obama's not even smart? Keep thinking that, guys. I'm getting more confident about an Obama victory with every Republican talking point I read.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 3:15 PM

this show was better when it was columbia's spring concert and was free.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 5:04 PM

"Hard to believe that culturally aware young-ish people reading this blog are voting McCain. Jesus, people. Have the last 8 years not been bad enough for you?"

Some of us have more than an 8 year perspective. And some of us understand economics. And some of us are not blinded by liberal rhetoric.

I'd love to hear how the past 8 years have been so terrible for you, by the way.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 8:35 PM

"McCain = Bush. Obama = Change.

You people really don't think we need a change?"

You, my friend are ignorant. McCain is very different than Bush and you can look at his voting record for proof of that. Not all Republicans are created equal just as not all Democrats are created equal. Obama just wants to spend your money in more wasteful ways that only the gov't is capable of. You may be a non-taxpaying student, but one of these days you will have a broader perspective and realize why half this country is Republican.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 8:39 PM

Can the liberals on this site at least quit using the word "fucktard" and maybe also accept the fact that not everyone that is young is also liberal? We are not McCain campaign staffers. We are not trustfund babies. We are people just like you that have a different perspective (and I'd be willing to bet many of you pay no taxes). If you want to talk politics, I would hope you can do better than the following ignorant and stupid comments:

"I would vote for a retarded, black, jewish, woman that was 35 year old before I would vote for McCain!"

"McCain is less likely to take money away from my trustfund."

"People who vote republican are jokes.
Go read your Bibles and suck on the end of your guns you useless fucktards."

"All I care about is protecting my rich parents money. They pay for my williamsburg apartment and my coke habit. Vote McCain."

Grow up and try to state your point intelligently next time.

Posted by CN | August 28, 2008 8:53 PM

i'm convinced theres only one or two people posting these ridiculous pro mccain comments.

for one thing obama is not that liberal. there is really no way to debate this, and mccain's policies are very similar to bush. these are facts.

second, this is primarily an indy music website. if you really looking for a reasonable political/social dialogue take your milton friedman anti-gov't arguments over to the huffington post. you're certainly not gonna find one on the bv comment section.

and jimmy carter is not an anti-semite.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 9:28 PM

I think both Obama and McCain will be terrible presidents, but both will be better than Bush.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 9:54 PM

It's apparent that the pro-McCain comments are courtesy of Joe Lieberman. And I can't think of any term that better describes Republicans than "fucktards." For all the conservative blather about protecting rights and freedoms, they're the ones who are most active in attempting to quash any rights that don't fit their narrow, white-centric, selfish perspective.
And fuck off with the comments about how liberals are just looking to tax and spend, tax and spend. The facts speak for themselves - Ronald Reagan, the patron saint of the looney right ran up the biggest deficit in history before the current set of jackasses set out to beat that record. Someone has to pay for this adventure at some point, so I guess if you're willing to pass the bill to your kids and their kids, then I guess you really are a selfish fucktard.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 9:54 PM

None of this really matters. The sun is setting on America's empire. EU and China's where it's gonna be at, baby!

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 9:59 PM

"second, this is primarily an indy music website."

Uh, no. This is Brooklyn Vegan, not Indianapolis Vegan.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:32 PM

"for one thing obama is not that liberal. there is really no way to debate this"

Dumbest comment in this entire chain of idiocy. No way to debate this? Maybe you should read more:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/03/mirror_mirror_on_the_wall_whos.html

http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/

Posted by CN | August 28, 2008 10:34 PM

^^
no thanks. just saw his speech. mccain might as well concede.

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 10:45 PM

Just watched the speech. It's too bad that Obama is a good speaker, but his platform is lacking. Funny had Obama contradicted himself in his own speech. First he said that the Republican notion of "picking yourself up with no government help" was wrong, then he said he was a better person because he made it with without help. It was literally 5 minutes later! Didn't his speech writer catch it?

Posted by Anonymous | August 28, 2008 11:23 PM

what's lacking? tax cuts for middle class families? 150 billion into new energy sources? a sane withdrawal plan from Iraq? improving education? cutting unnecessary and faulty programs from the federal budget? what was it about those and the number of other initiatives he spoke about didn't hit you as substantive issues?

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:09 AM

"for one thing obama is not that liberal. there is really no way to debate this"

Dumbest comment in this entire chain of idiocy. No way to debate this? Maybe you should read more:

hmm...wasnt john kerry the most liberal senator in 2004 too based on these rankings? yeah he's super-liberal. if these arbitrary rankings are how you form your opinions i'd say you need to read more.

Posted by derspringer | August 29, 2008 1:08 AM

"hmm...wasnt john kerry the most liberal senator in 2004 too based on these rankings? yeah he's super-liberal. if these arbitrary rankings are how you form your opinions i'd say you need to read more."

Are you kidding? Look at Obama's ties to socialism in the past and his voting record. Don't tell me I need to read more while you argue with NOTHING to back up otherwise. Look at voting record and past ties to socialism. The guy is scary liberal. I would also note that NPR is a pretty liberal source that also declared him one of the most liberal senators. Once again, I'm arguing with a liberal that has nothing to back their statements up with...

http://nalert.blogspot.com/2008/02/obamas-socialist-relationships.html

Posted by CN | August 29, 2008 8:13 AM

what's your point? Obama is a liberal... SO let's elect a guy who will continue the same dismal failed policies that have fucked this country for the last 8 years.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 8:50 AM

^^
you can find links on the internet. congratulations. doesn't make you right.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 9:22 AM

"Socialist" is not a dirty word.... some socialist policies are necessary. Unfettered capitalism is a problem...

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 9:41 AM

either way Obama will win New York. Mccain voters won't matter in this state..

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:01 AM

After the speech last night - anyone who votes McCain needs their head examined.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:01 AM

"you can find links on the internet. congratulations. doesn't make you right."

I'd just like some of you to back up something one of these days.

Posted by CN | August 29, 2008 10:34 AM

Conservative mantra for '08: Forget the last 8 years, the idiotic adventure in Iraq, the massive deficit, lost jobs, any number of breaches of laws that should be obvious grounds for impeachment. Instead, concentrate on how scary it might be to have a liberal in office.
Why is liberal such a dirty word in America? It's conservatives who so consistently fuck things up. What America needs is a solid dose of liberal policies to correct things as they have in the past.
Reagan/Bush 1: Enormous deficits, government actually expanded.
Clinton: budget surpluses, job increases.
Bush 2: Fucking disaster... where to start?

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:57 AM

"After the speech last night - anyone who votes McCain needs their head examined."

Jesus Fucking Christ. I'd rather see Obama as President than McCain, but are you seriously justifying your choice by citing a candidate's speech, a speech that was no doubt written as a marketing tool rather than a call to reason? It's people like you who make me wary of Obama.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:11 AM

"either way Obama will win New York. Mccain voters won't matter in this state.."

he'll get the entire northeast

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:18 AM

"Jesus Fucking Christ. I'd rather see Obama as President than McCain, but are you seriously justifying your choice by citing a candidate's speech, a speech that was no doubt written as a marketing tool rather than a call to reason? It's people like you who make me wary of Obama."

dont be an asshole

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:19 AM

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! According to the AP, "McCain taps Alaska governor..."!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 11:43 AM

that alaska shill willl play big in the sticks... fuck.
She just said that she fights the "good ole' boy network". I assume she is referring to the one that her running mate is part of...

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:22 PM

I'd tap that governor... she has kind of a sexy Tina Fey thing going.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:22 PM

I'd hit it!

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 12:25 PM

I'd tap that governor, too...

There, fixed.

Posted by Mr. Fixit | August 29, 2008 1:39 PM

There goes the MILF Vote MOFOs!

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 2:12 PM

"Jesus Fucking Christ. I'd rather see Obama as President than McCain, but are you seriously justifying your choice by citing a candidate's speech, a speech that was no doubt written as a marketing tool rather than a call to reason? It's people like you who make me wary of Obama."

Thank you! It's good to know someone else gets it. The speech was all sizzle, but no bacon. Yeah, let's spend $150B on alternative fuel. Who is paying for that? Obama is better than McCain, but that's not saying much.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:34 PM

Jesus Fucking Christ. I'd rather see Obama as President than McCain, but are you seriously justifying your choice by citing a candidate's speech, a speech that was no doubt written as a marketing tool rather than a call to reason? It's people like you who make me wary of Obama.

you don't know me assfuck

I'm not voting for him on that alone.

Dickless idiot you are, go vote for the old fuck - i don't give a shit.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:52 PM

Thank you! It's good to know someone else gets it. The speech was all sizzle, but no bacon. Yeah, let's spend $150B on alternative fuel. Who is paying for that? Obama is better than McCain, but that's not saying much.


Go look up how retard. It's already outlined and guess what it makes sense, much more so that a band aid of a drilling Alaska plan.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 4:53 PM

what's lacking?
tax cuts for middle class families?

McCain's tax plan does more for the middle class.

150 billion into new energy sources?

Both sides have energy plans. Both incorporate renewable energy.

a sane withdrawal plan from Iraq?

Even the Bush administration has a plan on withdrawal. Nothing new on the part of Obama.

improving education?

Once again, both parties are saying the same thing. Republicans are even for school vouchers with Democrats oppose.

cutting unnecessary and faulty programs from the federal budget?

Hey, that's a Republican trait! The problem is that Bush is worse than any tax-n-spend Democrat. The Republican party needs to go back to a real fiscal conservative. Still, it's quite amusing to hear a Democrat talking about cutting the federal budget!

what was it about those and the number of other initiatives he spoke about didn't hit you as substantive issues?

They are substantive issues, but it's all rhetoric. Will it be accomplished? Probably not.

I am not a Republican, but an Independent. Didn't vote for either Bush. And I agree that Obama is better than McCain, but the Obama platform (or lack of) is highly flawed.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 7:08 PM

you should all shut the FUCK up and vote for obama you winy assholes. get some black friends you douchebags and stop living off your parents money.

Posted by Anonymous | August 29, 2008 10:59 PM

palinisstalin.com

Posted by Anonymous | August 30, 2008 12:13 AM

this thread hurts my eyes

Posted by Anonymous | August 30, 2008 1:53 PM

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