it's about time they shut it down and built some condos.

that pic says it all.
lux condo looming ominously in the background.
nothing exceeds like excess.

and not one person that lives there would be even remotely interested in sitting out on their porch and catching some jams. sad.

boo! vivian girls - Tres Amatuers

Wolf Eyes in the sunlight.... we'll see.

saw lots of peeps hanging out on their rooftops or balconies last night, drinking beers and listening to the light FM of WILCO.

It's a decent lineup to go out with. Apart from Vivian Girls, obviously. But everyone will be stuck in a line outside or still work while they play.

obviously eh? seems like a lot of people disagree with you about the Vivian Girlsm, chump!

I guess the snotty avant noise dudes don't dig 'em. How heartbreaking!

noise dudes hzven't discovered girls. they're too busy masturbating furiously, thinkin about Merzbow

anyone know exactly why this is the last show?

motherfucking wolf eyes better play stabbed in the face

times new viking : shit yes.

fuckin a yes for times new viking and vivian girls!

"anyone know exactly why this is the last show?"
They're going to rehabilitate the pool and turn it into a public swimming facility again. Supposedly.

Also something about dead guys in the pool shed.

im so happy wolf eyes will be there. so happy.

hellllllllllll yes

aw TNV. ~love~

lol wolf eyes. that's gonna be noisy.

this is gonna be a sausage party, in the audience anyway

it's gonna be a lame one though, male sonic youth fans are so gross.

Wolf eyes better tear that sound system a new one.

Hey I'm a male Sonic Youth fan and I'm smoking hot. I love the anonymity of BV, it allows me to make posts like this.

anon 2:19 and 2:21, brilliant. like the BV posts of yesteryear.

Also

does anyone know for absolutely sure that they are going to redevelop the pool over the fall winter and spring? ive heard rumors that the funding is drying up with all the government budget cuts and whatnot.

please tell me this is true.

what happened to raising funds with the pool parties? i guess that was a pipe dream, and this has only served to enrich jellynyc???

you don't have to be a noise dude to know that vivian girls and times new viking suck. furthermore, you don't have to be a noise dude to know that $35 is not worth it to see wolf eyes, and sonic youth who are 100 years old and will soon be wheeled out on stage with oxygen masks so they can play pink jams crack concrete for all the kiddies who don't know any better.

3:53

DUH!

3:55...ouch!

i'm going to make out with a vivian girl during eliminator jr.

4:16, doubt it

oh no, JellyNYC never made any money of these shows!

they were free gifts to the people of New York City, remember?? you shiuld be grateful for their altruism!

JellyNYC and their good friends Helios, et al, they just wanted to rub their little grassroots paws together and do something NICE, for the COMMUNITY! It wasn't for money, how tacky of you to think of that!

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, these shows were FREE, you're just plain ungrateful if you think JellyNYC might have made A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY of their little sweetheart deal in a public park!

you don't know the half of it... how well Jelly made out from these shows.

ok ok, i was just wondering, i thought any money made selling $6 beer etc was supposed to go to some fund for renovating the pool. wasn't that the gimmick?

don't forget the $9 ice cream shakes from the mister softie truck in there!

the city made something like $250k a season from ALL the shows staged by LiveNation and JellyNYC.

In contrast, most estimates put JellyNYC's budgets at approximately 100k from sponsorships PER SHOW, whereas the city's pool renovation will cost MILLIONS.

So JellyNYC did pretty damn well for themselves, especially when you consider how incompetently they ran their operation (unnecessary lines, anyone?) and how weak this year's roster has been, even with all the goodwill and free press that the shows at the pool have received over the past two years.

Virtually anyone else would have done a better, more savvy job of it, but what can you do? Jelly had the exclusive deal with the city.

Now they want a whole new exclusive deal, to throw shows at the new park in Williamsburg. Let's hope cooler and smarter heads prevail and don't award these clowns another undeserved sweetheart deal on taxpayer property.

"you don't have to be a noise dude to know that vivian girls and times new viking suck. furthermore, you don't have to be a noise dude to know that $35 is not worth it to see wolf eyes, and sonic youth who are 100 years old and will soon be wheeled out on stage with oxygen masks so they can play pink jams crack concrete for all the kiddies who don't know any better."

You are an idiot on every count. Who do you like?

"Let's hope cooler and smarter heads prevail and don't award these clowns another undeserved sweetheart deal on taxpayer property."

You sound like JellyNYC's competition

sounds more like someone who doesn't like his tax dollars spent to enrich some incompetents' pockets

seriously doubt this "public pool" story. I mean WHO swims in a public pool? Unnecessary. tsk tsk

huh?

"You sound like JellyNYC's competition"

Is there someone else competing to do free corporate sponsored shows in public spaces? Seriously, is there? Who would be JellyNYC's competition?

yeah, last I checked JellyNYC has some special deal with the city. It's not exactly open to "competition."

6:45pm, i liked sonic youth once. i paid to see them many times. but vivian girls and times new viking and sonic youth at this (st)age, come on, if you're paying $35 for that, then you are in fact the idiot.

I like how everyone ignored the post that mentions how there was a dead guy found in the pool shed..

it should be noted that this is not a JellyNYC show, it's a Live Nation show.

Live Nation, if you remember, is the multinational corporation supposedly "spun off" from Clear Channel.

How is it even possible to enjoy Times New Viking? It's all just distorted and loud. You can barely decipher what's going on.

Pretty clearly on the ticketmaster link above, The show is not by Live Nation and not by Jelly either.

I bought my tickets during the presale & haven't received them yet. Anyone else have the same problem? I just emailed customer support...

I would go to this only for Vivian Girls and Times New Viking.

if doors are at 4pm, any idea when sonic youth would actually be going on? mccarren pool shows tend to be punctualm but i dont want to suffer through the first 3.

times new viking distorted and loud? sure. maybe on record. but check out their live stuff if you can't wrap your head around the studio stuff - it's just as good because they're great song-writers....the lo-fi stuff is a choice.

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2008/07/times-new-vikin.html

What time should this show finish?

shit. i just read all of those posts... and now i'm posting one anonymously too... i've been blowing it for ten minutes straight!

go sonic bloomberg!

"What time should this show finish?"

SY are slated to hit the stage at 7:45 according to their website ...

sucks that James Chance is on at 6 instead of 11 or later

STABBED IN THE FACEEEEEE

WOLF EYESSSS

BEST SONIC YOUTH SHOWN EVER!!!

this was super fun

someone post the set-list...

"Mote" was incredible...

from the sonicyouth.com board --

New Song (sung by Thurston)
New Song (sung by Kim)
Burning Spear
The Sprawl
Cross the Breeze
Hey Joni
Silver Rocket
The Wonder
Hyperstation
Mote
Jams Run Free
Pink Steam
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Making the Nature Scene
Brother Fuckin' James!
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Expressway to Yr. Mutherfuckin Skull

Vivian Girls were good. Times New Viking was ok. Wolf Eyes did not fit on that bill - crappy noise.

Louis CK!

Wolf Eyes...

Noise is good, but it's a tool.

They just sucked ass.

Graduate school.

Or maybe undergraduate.

No control or message.

Failure.

sonic youth proved themselves to be one of the best bands alive. seriously they owned and steve shelley is a fukking badasss.

and yeah louis ck was walking around w. a camera around his neck as if no one would notice him - we love the louis ck show, motherfucker.

expressway and brother james were good surprises, but seriously, sonic youth is a fraction of what they used to be.
the best part of the show is that wolf eyes destroyed and the moronic hipsters were hoping for dan deacon.

if by destroyed you mean sucked ass, then yes. i agree.

BROTHER JAMES RULED!!!

if by brother james you mean starpower, then yes, i agree.

wolf eyes has a rotating cast of characters, doesn't it? anyone know who played in it last night?

the rich kids with the fine arts degrees who make really shitty music because they can't actually play any instruments

Kim Gordon looked hot.

Nate Young is the guy in the middle, John Olson is the guy who played the sax, and Mike Connolly is the guy who played guitar and also plays in Hair Police. This is the same lineup they had for a while. I thought they had a great set.

sonic youth sounded amazing as always, loved hearing the new songs and the handful of rarer songs(Mote!!) but i gotta say it seemed a little odd to play 7 songs from Daydream in a row, since they played the whole thign in the same venue last year.. they did sound great though, better than battery park i'd say. great day to close out the pool

Am I the only one that thought it was a bit weak? I left a little bit disappointed. The past few shows i've seen them do outdid this one by a mile or three.

While they put on a very good show, I was very disappointed since this is very similar to the setlist they played for free at the July 4th show.

I was disappointed they ended 40 minutes before curfew. What do they have against long sets?

been to a lot of SY shows... recall lasy year at the pool for daydream, they almost seemed bored. last nite they attacked. you could see it all over their faces... kim and thurston had a cool moment towards the end of the set, rubbing guit necks and huddling and Lee was monstrous. it crapped on battery park and battery park was solid. express way to send of the pool? - proper. ... too bad the pool will clearly be open for shows still... just like coney was gonna close last year....(>?)... some red tape will save our free shows. or they should just fill the thing with water and still have the shows... you would just have to be willing to soak in gallons of dirt indie rock+hipster piss on yr legs for the afternoon.

You are the only one, Anon 1:13, Sonic RULED.

You're a bit weak 1:13! They were at top form!

"I was disappointed they ended 40 minutes before curfew. What do they have against long sets?"

Yup! That & a lackluster crowd would be my main criticisms . . . but it was still a great show. I know I'm gonna get grief for saying this, but I wish they'd done a couple of their "hits" like Kool Thing, Teenage Riot, Sunday or Bull in the Heather (which they DID do on July 4 & it was great). Still the song selection was pretty good and I loved the encores . . . maybe they would've done another if the lazy and lame crowd had shown a little more enthusiasm. Is it just a generational thing . . . or is it that Brooklyn/NYC hipsters are too "cool" to show enthusiasm? I just don't know. AND I'm REALLY getting sick & tired of people saying Sonic Youth are not as good as they used to be. TOTAL BS - I saw them in the (late) 80s and in the 90s and yeah, they've evolved a bit but they are as good a ever now! And, to be honest, Rather Ripped is one of their BEST albums to date!

As for Wolf Eye - I will admit that they were interesting . . . and I'd hate to totally write them off, because I've (mistakenly) done that before with bands I've ended up appreciating. But, you know, after 15 mins or so it really started to grow tiresome. Pere Ubu they are not.

Finally, I thought Times New Viking were pretty good; I missed the Vivian Girls but they sounded pretty good too from the outside. Not bad for opening bands . . . wish I could say the same for Wolf Eye.

^^^FYI, the band is called Wolf Eyes JasonNYC.

I'm anon 1:13. I was just at work thinking about it. Sonic Youth is my favorite band of all time....The last few times I saw them, I was either up front or very close. Last night I was in the back sitting down. I think this may be why I was disappointed, the energy is pretty much non existent back there. Why I didn't realize is this, like, last night? I dunno...we all have our "special" moments. First and last concert I spend sitting down in the way back.

LAST NIGHT WAS MAGICAL!

My apologies to Wolf EyeS for mis-stating their name! [Lord knows I wouldn't want to make them feel any more anguished than they already do.]

As for the comment about being in the back sitting down for SY . . . I do think that was a factor, and I can imagine what you mean. I was about 25' from the stage and even up front there was a bit less crowd energy than usual! But I thought SY were fabulous - esp the 2nd half of the show when Kim really seemed to get a 2nd wind and started to cut loose! I thought it was every bit as good as the July 4 Battery Park show.

Did anyone else see that green laser beam that someone was aiming at the pool from one of those condos near McCarren park?

It was driving me nuts all night, I was afraid that idiot was going to blind someone. The laser was powerful enough to shoot a beam a mile away. I almost called in a complaint in to the police, just to be a dick, as it would have served that guy right (I can just pciture him showing all his neighbors, 'Hey lookee at this laser I got from Sharper Image!').

i saw it, and it was bothersome. but honestly, i doubt the police would've really cared to do anything about it.

I was at the show and I definitely enjoyed it, but I agree with anon 12:34 there was a little too much Daydream Nation. Between McCarren last year, Battery Park, and this, their last three NYC shows have been pretty heavy on the same material. I love Daydream as much as anyone else, but for me the highlights were the songs I haven't heard so much lately. (I'm late with this, but to repeat from above - MOTE!) They still sounded great, but I'd like to see them mixing it up a bit more again. I'm looking forward to hearing them touring on new material. (The two new ones sound pretty good so far.)

Wolf Eyes are a band people pretend to like to seem interesting. Because there is no way some one can pop that on they're ipod and enjoy it. NO WAY! I hate this term but that shit ain't music. They can't play or write. I'm sure that's the point but it's pretty fucking pretentious if you ask me. SONIC FUCKIN' YOUTH FOREVER!!! Why don't you guy's cry some more that such a good band plays so often!

Wolf Eyes were laughable. in fact, all 3 opening bands were pretty lackluster, but Wolf Eyes was the corniest thing ever.

Sonic Youth were great. I could've used more Lee songs but that's just me. The new songs are excellent in that uptempo "Stereo Sanctity" mode, nice they're making the most out of their new bassist, who gives them more takeoff than they've ever had.

i posted some videos of sonic youth here:

www.youtube.com/maestro416

Sonic Youth - simply beautiful.

ummm we had a lot of people in our building in this pic on the roof and we were alll sooo excited to hear this you wouldnt believe it.
so much for making assumptions.
we're in the chocolate factory building, not sooo hideous as the big tower eyesore...but i freakin LOVE sonic youth and grew up with them so try not to make stereotype comments.

"Hey Joni" was a real highlight, so was the shiver that went through the whole crowd at the intro to "The Sprawl," and all the old Forced Exposure songs... what a night.

Wolf Eyes < Wolfie

you guys don't get wolf eyes, which does not surprise me. stupid kids. i love to put on a wolf eyes record when by myself at night with the lights out. they don't so much write songs as make blissfully evil noise. of course, i wouldn't expect a bunch of dumb hipsters to undserstand something so abstract. poseurs.
ok, enjoy rather ripped. haha.

wolf eyes is not creative in any way. they a fail as they evoke nothing. it is so amazing to me that folks can somehow think that this is artistically successful.

boring drone sludge with no dynamics, no arc, not one single interesting moment and a whole set of the exact same formulaic nonmusic.

perhaps the single worst band i've ever seen or heard.

wolf eyes, if you're out there, you guys eat shit. i'll buy your first guitar lesson if that's the problem, but i'm not sure it would help.

sonic youth was wonderful as usual, but still leaning too heavily on daydream. it sorta seems like they're catering to the casual fans and newcomers to SY.

psyched for mote. hell yeah. still waiting for titanium expose, though.

what was up with the filming? is someone going to release this as a live concert dvd?

^ They were shooting for a documentary.

I am very surprised that bv has not posted a separate "Sonic Youth played the last show at the Pool, w/pix" article. I mean, wtf?

sorry for the delay!!
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/09/sonic_youth_viv.html