Posted in music | venues on September 10, 2008

McCarren pool

The $50 million makeover of McCarren Pool that would turn it from a concert venue back into a swimming pool was approved by the Landmarks Preservation Commission yesterday by a unanimous 7-0 vote. The vote clears the way for work on the Rogers Marvel redesign to start. The new pool will cover about 70 percent of the area of the old one. There will be a new diving pool and a "resorty" look with umbrellas and tables. There will be cafes, possibly including something up in the arch. Also ice skating in winter and indoor community space, which might allow for some concert programming. [Curbed]
More futuristic pictures below...

McCarren pool

McCarren pool

McCarren pool

McCarren pool

(thx Ashleigh!)

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Comments (105)

They took too much out of the middle of the pool there, I'm afraid. That looks like way more than 30%, unless the proportions of the fancy computer image are wrong.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:30 PM

$50,000,000 sounds like a lot of money...

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM

So much harder to put a dead body around :(

Posted by GOPster | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:32 PM

when they gonna have 2009's schedule up?

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:35 PM

sim city williamsburg

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:36 PM

Get your workout's on homies and ho's. Meat Market 2012!!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:43 PM

weak

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:49 PM

it's gonna be super fun and wet

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:50 PM

public poo
gross

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM

i'm gonna go piss in it like everyday

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:55 PM

You know this place will be overrun with homesexuals.
Just saying. Sausage fest.

Posted by Dorian | September 10, 2008 4:57 PM

ice skating! I'll never have to leave williamsburg again.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 4:58 PM

you will have to leave to see vampire weekend in the city.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM

I'm gonna buy me a water balloon launcher and some baby ruths.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:02 PM

So that's what the future hipsters of Williamsburg will look like.
Interesting...

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:03 PM

cant wait to show off my buns.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:05 PM

public piss and poo and spit and body odor and sweat and period blood. no thank you.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:07 PM

haha germaphobes. your life sucks!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM

So ... we can't get a movie theatre, decent grocery store, or better/additional public transportation in and out of the city ... but they can approve $50,000,000 for a fucking pool?!!!!?

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:09 PM

^wow, never thought of it that way. this sucks more than just missing next year's MGMT play for free nearby.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:13 PM

Better public transportation in and out of the city? What are you crazy AND lazy? One stop on the F train is too much for you?

Jeez.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:13 PM

i am going to float around in there with my period oozing out of me
i can't wait
and either can you

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:15 PM

join your local Community Supported Agriculture program, ride a bike, get netflix

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:15 PM

^^^Wha? Explain yourself.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:16 PM

"homesexuals"

Fucking priceless!!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM

you stupid Williamsburg lame lazy hipsters HAD a movie theater... the Commodore. But none of you ever went there because it wasn't on Bedford Avenue and wasn't in the six block radius of hip that you refuse to leave and cling to so they tore it down last year.

Losers.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:17 PM

I've lived in Williasmburg for 15 years and never heard of the Commodore

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:18 PM

...And don't forget about the public sex.. Mmm Hmmm

It's gonna be like a gorilla landscape up in there. I CAN'T WAIT!!

Knockin boots in the water, knockin boots on the sly while tannin,
circle jerkin in the menz b room if that's yo thang... Welcome back NYC!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:19 PM

"join your local Community Supported Agriculture program, ride a bike, get netflix"

it means, solve your own problems where you can. you're going to wait around for the city government to make things easier/better for you.

CSA = better than a grocery store
Bike = Transportation
Movie theater = netflix

Was it that compicated top figure out??

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:20 PM

anon- 5:17

You dumbass. The Commodore was shut down for years. It just sat there. My god you must be dim.... And from Ohio.

It was on the market for millions. Shame whomever scooped it up tore it down and never realized the potential.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:23 PM

nice pool. That is ok though. no music next summer but please head to the L train on friday and you can sing along with oasis. Finally some good music in billyburg.

thank you

LYLA

Posted by little james | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM

hippy

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:24 PM

When's Daft Punk playing the new Pool? 2013?

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:27 PM

any guesses for the next hipster 900 dollar a month, bed-bug palace? I'd invest in real estate there.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:28 PM

dont look back in anger

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:31 PM

I can't wait to avoid this place for the rest of my life.

Posted by TWB | September 10, 2008 5:31 PM

can't wait for bedford to be filled with screaming 5 year olds in bathing suits and floaties. yay!

Posted by poo buster | September 10, 2008 5:34 PM

...hope it's deeper then it is now...

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:38 PM

what is a "homesexual"?

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:41 PM

Ok, it's been over for us and this just proved it.

My friend pointed out that this is just a conspiracy to lure people out to buy those stupid fucking condos that no one is buying. They'll make it a private pool for rich NYU students and homos. You know when homos start moving into the hood the trust fund kids come shortly after....

All the kids that moved here 3 months ago and participated in that Hipster King and Queen shit should go hang themselves. I sick of neon colors and not being able to tell if a guy is a fag or not.

Let's go to Philadelphia.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:51 PM

they closed greenpoint's fire station, but $50 mill to build this project.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:55 PM

i can tell if i guy is a fag or not
but sometimes i get confused by foreigners who *look* gay

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:56 PM

I am a have trust fund and I am gay.
what is so bad with that?

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:57 PM

5:23:

The Commodore closed in July of 2003. LONG after Williamsburg was well established as a hipster mecca. It was showing movies right up until that summer. And no one ever went there from the central hipster area because it was outside of the hip zone.

5:18: proved my point exactly. This person has lived in Williamsburg for fifteen years (since 1998) and had never heard of the theater. That's six years they could have been going there and didn't.

It didn't just sit there. It took five years to sell and begin demolition.


I am not dim and not from Ohio, and clearly have my facts down more than you. Hostile much?

I am actually from NYC. Where are YOU from?

How long have you lived in the neighborhood? Had YOU ever been to the theater when it was open?

Oh, and one more thig 5:23... you are a freaking moron.

But thanks for sharing.


Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 5:59 PM

They also renovated East River Park, which means they put in a couple of park benches and planted 3 trees. It took March until August. Multiply that times 1000 and you have an idea of how over-budget, and over-deadline this development/construction project will be, and what a sweetheart deal it is at the expense of the neighborhood and all NYC taxpayers.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:00 PM

5:23:...... 5:59 schooled yer ass! Ha!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:01 PM

This will never start on time.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:02 PM

chlorine causes global warming...wont someone think about the carbon footprint?

Posted by Jake | September 10, 2008 6:03 PM

finally, change i can believe in

Posted by Jake | September 10, 2008 6:04 PM

It’s not quite accurate to say it’s turning “back” into a pool. It hasn’t been a pool since the 80s, when it got shut down as a crime magnet.

Anybody who thinks this pool will open by 2015 also probably thinks it’ll only cost us $50 million. Liquid crabs bath!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:05 PM

"anon- 5:17

You dumbass. The Commodore was shut down for years. It just sat there. My god you must be dim.... And from Ohio.

It was on the market for millions. Shame whomever scooped it up tore it down and never realized the potential."

I'm not from Ohio... Queens actually.
Seems like the people running the theater might have been dim, since no one even knew their business existed.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:18 PM

The Commodores were finished when Lionel Richie left. "Nightshift" was cool but the magic was gone.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 6:27 PM

Kickball? Thats soooo 2007. The new hot shit? Hipster Marco Polo. Leagues forming soon!!!

Posted by Owen | September 10, 2008 6:33 PM

@ 5:13 ... I said better, not closer. And there is no F train near Williamsburg/Greenpoint. The L is overcrowded, the G doesn't go into Manhattan. And there's only one bus that goes into the city?

@ 5:15 ... riding a bike isn't a reasonable option to and from work for me, and for a lot of other people, I'm sure. I'm looking at the 30,000 or more people they want to move out here to buy up these abominations they call apt buildings and there's no infrastructure to support it and no plans I'm aware of. Hell, it's taken how many decades to get the 2nd ave line underway ... And netflix just isn't the same as seeing a movie on the big screen.

I've lived in and around NY for 15 years and only moved out here last year, so yeah, never heard of a movie theater that had already closed down.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:14 PM

the commodore was a sex theatre which I spent many a Friday nights using my own body as an amusement park. Many pleasurable memories there.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:17 PM

Bring back Cokies

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:25 PM

Great round of comments - thx for the laughs, per usual

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 7:41 PM

I love a hot chlorinated cup of herpes tea!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 8:22 PM

not gonna miss the free pool shows, but i'm sure the local businesspeople will. one lingering thought: FIFTY MILLION FOR A FUCKING POOL??? look, i live across the street, i'd love a pool, but please spend that money on people/places that need it MUCH more.

and by the way, why is the blog comment section the lowest form of communication known to man? take out your aggression in the ballot box.

Posted by remember-team-b | September 10, 2008 9:51 PM

Those pool entrance comps hurt my soul.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 11:07 PM

I'm from wisconsin.

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 11:09 PM

SHUT UP WISCONSIN!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 11:30 PM

Cokies = Best. Comment. Here.

(for those of us that knew of it).

Posted by greg | September 10, 2008 11:32 PM

@ anon 7:41

you can say that again

I loved the Commodores/Lionel Ritchie one, fantastic

so when I leave NYC for school in Chicago am I still allowed to read brooklynvegan or is that not legit?

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 11:44 PM

massive waste of taxpayer dollars. sad demise of a unique cultural institution. BAD idea that will inevitably be under-utilized and expensive to maintain - lets face it this is a pool and only a pool. it is NOT some mixed-use community space.

also proves that hipsters are completely and absolutely politically/civicly apathetic. 7-0 vote?! not one dissenting opinion - i smell rot.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:50 AM

I'm a homesexual trustafarian just moved here from the bay area in france to open a new exciting attraction in historic williamstown! It's a hot turkish bath pool with a giorgio moroder soundtrack and disco balls under water! there's will be a walk up bar in the pool while the bands play. The new houses in the computer drawrings above are special theater section where you can can have a personal fun time in booth and watch movies from Amsterdam!

Here's another computer simulation, this time animated:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2gnho_vintage-mccarren-park-pool_fun

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 4:15 AM

that pool will be filled with more cum than a sperm bank. white water rafting for all!

Posted by C. Mehn | September 11, 2008 8:36 AM

pearl diving

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 9:06 AM

the cokies closet ruled
best draino in the hood

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 9:14 AM

Great for the community. That is the real community before the invasion of the trust funds. Whaaa i have nothing to do on sunday. Whaaa my fav concert venue is gone.

Get to work!!!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 9:41 AM

all this is going to do is bring the last thing anyone needs to the neighborhood... more children.

Posted by billy mackerel | September 11, 2008 9:51 AM

what will be the capacity for the pool? I think this is a legitimate question.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 10:05 AM

Why does Brooklyn even need a pool when we have a beach?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 10:33 AM

what time does MGMT go on?

Posted by Henry McCool | September 11, 2008 10:43 AM

"So ... we can't get a movie theatre, decent grocery store, or better/additional public transportation in and out of the city ... but they can approve $50,000,000 for a fucking pool?!!!!?"

you said it, 509.

NYC takes a $50 million wiz on the Greenpoint community.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 11:16 AM

Brooklyn's Broadway was once lined with theatres. Most are gone--a few survive as churches and one as a mattress factory (the last time I was in the neighborhood).
However I gather that the theatre you are asking about is the old Commodore at Broadway & Rodney. It was built in 1921 and opened in 1922. The architects were Gronenberg & Leuchtag. It had a kimball organ. At various times the theatre was owned/operated by the following circuits: Fox, Randforce, & UA.
The marquee was remodeled in 1973. The Commodore closed shortly after that only to reopen as a multi-plex. The theatre became increasingly run-down. Towards the end the Williamsburg Film Festival was held there. Someone from the festival contacted me when it was first announced that the theatre might be closing. They were interested in landmarking the space. I expressed my doubts since there were theatres along Broadway with greater historical and architectual significance that have since been demolished or are awaiting an uncertain future should anything happen to the churches using them (Empire, Gates are two) I fought for years to save the Bushwick Theatre but without success.
Anyway back to the Commodore. When it closed in *July 2002*, the space was suppose to become an Yeshiva. Apparently this fell through. A local Hispanic group wanted to make it into a cultural center. Nothing came of that. All sorts of rumors crop up every once and awhile.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 11:37 AM

Yeah just what the neighborhood needs, another construction site. Welcome to the pool to nowhere.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 11:46 AM

what time is daft punk hitting the diving board at ?

Posted by Sean | September 11, 2008 11:53 AM

Fuck Yes! i love community pool concession stands. Nachos and Otter pops on me. Who the hell needs a grocery store?!?

And to end the debate
MGMT - 5:00pm
Daft Punk - 6:00pm
Dan Deacon - 7:00pm

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 11:55 AM

I think that space should be set aside for water polo where the dodgeball used to be. however to be fair how will they have concerts there now, they would have to limit number of people they let in severely, I mean I cant imagine they would allow people into the pool beyond some safe number x.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 12:02 PM

ashleigh likes buttsex.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 12:29 PM

des likes to use the word buttsex as often as possible. other des-isms: "you're mom's a ______." "holla!"

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 12:31 PM

I'm gonna jack off in the pool everyday and then my cum is gonna go in everyones mouths and up inside their bathing suits.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 12:36 PM

Are they preserving that "Dan is Gay" graffiti?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 1:37 PM

what time does daft punk go on?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 1:57 PM

That dead dude's ghost is going nowhere!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:12 PM

yeah, but was he really dead? you seen friday the 13th?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:17 PM

Good point. Somebody get a lightening proof casket on that corpse QUICK!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:33 PM

We dont they take that $500000000, distribute it to the post grads student in the form of student loan payments, and we can keep it as a big venue in the ground.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:36 PM

they are changing the name to cum pool

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 2:52 PM

I can't believe they went to the future and took photos. Amazing.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:11 PM

"So ... we can't get a movie theatre, decent grocery store, or better/additional public transportation in and out of the city ... but they can approve $50,000,000 for a fucking pool?!!!!?"

because the government doesn't build movie theaters or grocery stores. and you have plenty of transportation. waah.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:15 PM

thanks Marty!
I love this--"you have plenty of transportation." Welcome to the B43!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:22 PM

sadly enough i sat here and read every single comment...sept10-5:09 left the most important message. using 50million else where throughout brooklyn would have been a huge plus. We all know that pool is going to become target of molestation, sexual harassment, public masturbation and urination...not to mention the amout of fecal matter that will be floating around in the pool. They should have left the pool empty for free shows- The only way to monitor a pool that size from urine is overloading it with chlorine- making it unbearable to swim in.
goodday!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:28 PM

how much affodable housing could that 50 million had built? think about it, they could have built 6 family houses, easily for about 1 mil per, that could have meant 60 houses, for 360 families so they could have an affordable place to live, this is whats so screwed about the local govt,

bullshit projects that no one wants or needs(like Washington Square park renovation or this debacle) while real needs, like affordable housing get pissed on.

link this post in three or four years, so you can say i told you so.

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:29 PM

This is crap. Was so much more culturally unique and valuable to the neighborhood when it was a music/art venue. This is sad.

Posted by Derek | September 11, 2008 3:41 PM

I don't fuck in your pool so please don't piss on my girlfriend. No, I mean: I don't fuck your girlfriend so please don't piss in my pool. Wait, that isn't it either. Isn't there some sort of saying like this?

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 3:43 PM

^ hahaha

idk about you guys but i am seriously sad about the pool ending its venue status. i mean who didn't like free music, slip n slide and dodgeball/ foursquare. check yr ego at the door, that shit was mad fun and i thoroughly enjoyed it for the past 3 years. will solely be missed. everyone who complained about the venue can stick it up their nose!

Posted by Anonymous | September 11, 2008 5:19 PM

i'm really into putting things up my nose.

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2008 10:35 AM

First, go look up the definition of "Sweetheart Deal."

Second, has anyone actually ever visited a NYC public pool? If you had you'd know that they are run by Fascists with a list of rules longer than a BV flame-fest. Every single time we've tried to go to a pool in NYC, one of our group was denied for something. My favorite was one guy who wasn't allowed in because his swimsuit didn't have the proper mesh liner (yes, they actually checked). All you kids from the suburbs are getting your pools confused here. It will be more for the kids and families who live across the street (and don't mind following a gajillion rules) than for you and your friends. Kiss that pool-space goodbye.

Oh and third, think the L train is crowded now? They haven't even finished most of the condos yet! Hahahahahaha! (Don't be lazy, ride a bike)

Posted by Anonymous | September 12, 2008 12:28 PM

WELCOME TO MCCARREN OOL
YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S NO 'P' IN IT
KEEP IT THAT WAY!

Posted by Marty Markowitz | September 12, 2008 5:25 PM

don't tell hipster haters to stick anything up their noses, or they might become cokeheads -> sickly thin -> tight clothes wearers -> indy rock fans -> from ohio -> hipsters.

nobody wants that.

Posted by Anonymous | September 19, 2008 3:10 PM

Why spend $50 million on a pool that was awesome to begin with? I heard the condo developers were harassing the LPC to get the pool approved to sell condos.

Wake up Brooklyn! don't let W-burg be the next LES bought and sold piece by piece block by block!

(any more than it is!)

Posted by Monzie | June 26, 2009 12:46 PM

50 million?
it's never going to get built. i'm sure they were making budgets based on property taxes on condos that are now never going to be built.
instead what we're going to get is no pool parties and never opened, never finished construction to take it's place.

great job mayor bloomberg, take away one of the nice things about the neighborhood and replace it with the permanent eyesore that it used to be.

Posted by metropolitan | June 26, 2009 1:28 PM

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