Posted in music | pictures on October 31, 2008

words and photos by Faith-Ann Young

Suicide
Suicide

A hugely hormonal, mostly teenage crowd packed into Webster hall last night (October 30, 2008) to see MGMT...... the average age around 18 to mid twenties. Rumor was the tickets for this show sold out in minutes and I would say most MGMT fans were at a loss when opener (co-headliner?) Suicide came on.

Now, if you know anything about the 1970s and 80s post-punk scene, you know about Suicide's eccentric performance history and their prominent place in rock and roll history....(Hell, even Springsteen lists them as influences.) Since MGMT are big fans of Suicide (which they've cited several times in interviews), it is perhaps not so random that the two bands share a stage (although most still living post-punk groupies may slit their wrists upon hearing legends like Suicide opened zealously for new pups MGMT.) But let's be clear: the crowd was not ready for Suicide's avant-garde performance art. Musically, Martin Rev and Alan Vega's experimental no wave rock was too heavily distorted, disorienting, and frenetic for any of the kids to appreciate. Plus, it didn't help that ski goggles on a sixty-year old man just makes him look senile- rather than 'punk' or badass. Slow moving onstage, yet trying zealously to motivate the crowd with hand punches and pointing, Suicide's duo more ressembled "oh no, grandpa got into the medecine cabinet again" retirees than fabled rock legends. And shamefully, the eccentric synth moves of Martin Rev, who at one time simply pounded the synth machine with his fists, was old news to electronically-immersed "Mac Garage-band" generation; one teenager mumbled "All they are doing is playing a backing track." The sad reality is, while it's always cool to watch real legends in action, these men are unappreciated by the new kids on the block. When Alan Vega started motioning with his hands, one kid just shouted "we don't know what that means," which was just a feeble reminder, punk as Suicide know it anyway, is dead.

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So needless to say, the highlight of the night (editor in disbelief) came when MGMT came onstage in full mariachi suits, laughing. The whole crowd cheered, giggled and toasted their beer cans, as a thick haze of pot smoke wafted down the front row. Visibly refreshed and at ease (especially compared to their lackluster performances at United Palace Theatre opening for Beck weeks ago), the band played to their fans. The crowd pleasers like "Kids" caused the most commotion; at one time the whole of Webster Hall appeared to be jumping up and down (like kids on a trampoline) hands in air, with glee. (Truth be told; when MGMT played a couple unrecognizable songs- i.e. newbies not on their current album - the songs were not so impressive). Best part of the night? When lead singer Andrew broke into a sick rendition of Cyndi Lauper's "Girls Just Want To Have Fun," apparently using something (a vocoder?) to adjust his voice to a helium-level octave. Ahhh, to be young again.

MGMT play one more NYC show tonight, Halloween 2008, at Music Hall of Williamsburg. More pictures from last night below...

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Suicide have a non-MGMT-infected show coming up at Music Hall of Williamsburg.

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Comments (60)

ew gross

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 6:57 PM

do you not mean Cyndi Lauper's "Girl's Just Want To Have Fun?" I realize neither of them are 2008 buzz bands, but, you know, if you're going to write about popular music with some authority...oh whatever...

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 7:02 PM

MGMT. Gross indeed.

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 7:02 PM

>>>do you not mean Cyndi Lauper's "Girl's Just Want To Have Fun?" I realize neither of them are 2008 buzz bands, but, you know, if you're going to write about popular music with some authority...oh whatever...

I should have caught that one. Fixed. thanks!

Posted by brooklynvegan | October 31, 2008 7:06 PM

They look like the Three Amigos...Lucky...Dusty and Little Neddie.

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 7:32 PM

WHAT THE FUCK

THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

who the fuck let FUCKING MGMT play with MOTHER FUCKING SUICIDE?!?!?!?!??!?!?

fuck this shit. fuck mgmt. fuck all things.

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 7:35 PM

MGMTerrible

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 7:36 PM

its really sad that the younger generation find horrible bands like no age as arty as they can handle...

Posted by charlie | October 31, 2008 7:48 PM

In a way, each of us has an El Guapo to face. For some, shyness might be their El Guapo. For others, a lack of education might be their El Guapo. For us, El Guapo is a big, dangerous man who wants to kill us. But as sure as my name is Lucky Day, the people of Santa Poco can conquer their own personal El Guapo, who also happens to be *the actual* El Guapo!

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 7:52 PM

The jealousy just oozes out of every pore in your being. MGMT is successful and loved by thousands upon hundreds of thousands around the world. You are not. You just sit in your little cruddy rathole and pound out the envy and hatred on your precious little laptop.

Posted by Clem | October 31, 2008 7:56 PM

Is this review fucking serious? Of course the highlight for fans was MGMT...it was an MGMT show. Have you ever been to a show before?

This is pretty disgraceful. Did the idiotic BV commenters take over editorial duties when nobody was looking??

BV - take control of your product, nix the words and just toss up photos from your photogs. Its pretty clear they can't chew bubblegum and walk at the same time.

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 8:18 PM

You know what, yesterday while at the concert I was pissed that they let what I considered to be the equivalent of two old men who won a radio contest open for MGMT. But after I did some reading about Suicide I see how many artists they influenced and definitely feel privileged to have seen them. Come on, tell me, were you genuinely excited by the stage show of those two guys, one making the annoying noise that Lloyd makes in Dumb and Dumber and the other wearing ski goggles and a spiderman shirt?

And what does it matter about the 20 something crowd? We were there for one reason- to see MGMT because we enjoy their music. Who do you expect to show up? What's so bad about that? We paid money to see them and clearly their musical style and MGMT's are very different. There's no need to belittle the crowd who was clearly disappointed and excited to see the opener. Suicide may be legendary, but they definitely didn't do their job as the opening band which is to get the crowd excited for the main act. And even if they co-headlined, they still came before MGMT.

On a final note, Webster Hall is a terrible venue. The staff is rude and have no idea how to control crowds, it's impossible to exit the club, it's incredible disorganized, and you still have 30-40 year old skeezbags trying to dance with younger girls. At the Justice show one of the girls pushed the shit out of one of these guys, proclaiming "I don't even know you!". Someone in a comment on this page one time said Terminal 5 was created to make us forget how shitty Webster Hall is. I would so much rather go to the old Club Exit (Terminal 5 for those who don't know) all the way on the West side then go to Webster Hall again.

Posted by JM | October 31, 2008 8:30 PM

I like these Faith reviews!

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 8:30 PM

Get a wardrobe over here right away; take the Amigos' clothes!

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 8:58 PM

I love these message boards. BV posts a review or story on a band and everyone who posts a comment hates the featured band. Who is acceptable these days? Who is cool to like since anything talked about on this site is immediately trashed. Why do you even come here to read or post comments? Are you all trolls?

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 9:02 PM

I have to agree with 8:18.

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 9:06 PM

I swear to God if this was 1979 and a review of Joy Division live in New York 90 % of the people posting would say they suck balls. Go listen to your Kaiser Chief and Keane records.

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 9:15 PM

"The Kaiser Chiefs are just a really bad Blur." - Liam Gallagher

Posted by Anonymous | October 31, 2008 9:23 PM

Seriously, I've been to a lot of shows and saw a lot of bad opening bands. But this time it was ridiculous. Nobody seemmed even to understand what those guys were singing.

And yes, I'm a twenty something and I don't care about bands that were something 30 years ago. I do care about what's happening now. And MGMT is maybe the best band of 2008. That being said. I loved last night's concert and the crowd was very sexy. Can't wait to see MGMT again. And hopefully with a more interesting opening band...

Posted by aaa | October 31, 2008 11:25 PM

"And yes, I'm a twenty something and I don't care about bands that were something 30 years ago. I do care about what's happening now. And MGMT is maybe the best band of 2008."

This is sad. Proves that Suicide is still radical to a lot of people.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 12:25 AM

"and the crowd was very sexy." -- 11:25

ahahahahahahahahhahaha
won't be long before folks don't care about you either, you shallow dickweed.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 12:38 AM

Who is John Galt?

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 12:47 AM

The webster hall show and it was pretty much what i expected after reading all the bad reviews from the Beck show they opened up for.

The sound was terrible and MGMT were terrible. For once you couldnt blame the bad bass resonance on a dance night in other part of building. Their music live just wasnt tight enough and they didnt seem to have any development with the other band members. From what ive read this band started as a duo. I dont know how long theyve been a full band for or how many diff members have worked with them but there was no chemistry.

Aside from that the place was full of frat boys dancing with themselve like Night at the Roxbury, but i expected that.

Posted by The Fatman | November 1, 2008 10:33 AM

aaa, you are a twat. a twat that knows nothing of musical history.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 11:25 AM

Suicide's "job as an opening act" is not to "get the crowd excited for the main act". No no no. Never has been. Their job as an opening act, or as an act in general, is to piss everyone off with their impenatrable weirdness. i e, to make you think. When they opened for bands like the Cars in the 70s the audiences would get hostile, nowadays the kids are just apathetic i guess.

And is there anything funnier than MGMT fans complaining how someone in a spiderman t shirt and goggles is dressed funny. Get a mirror quick!

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 11:59 AM

Word to @ 11:59.

The same thing happened Nick Cave's Grinderman opened up for The White Stripes. About 50% of the audience was into it, but the other 50% (featuring soccer moms covering the ears of their young children!) were horrified. I loved it. You could see that Nick really fed off of that tension.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 1:55 PM

You can't compare Nick Cave to Suicide. It's apples & oranges and quite frankly, an insult to Mr. Cave.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 2:21 PM

@ Anon 2:21PM

I assure you that Nick Cave would not consider a comparison to Suicide as an insult.

Posted by noyokono | November 1, 2008 3:06 PM

Agreed noyokono...agreed. Anon2:21 should know better.

Posted by blackhat | November 1, 2008 3:32 PM

I assure you that Grinderman opening for WS was an insult to my senses. It was fucking terrible. "Oh, Nick Cave is so edgy! His music really challenges the listener, pushes boundaries musically, and is just so delightfully esoteric. He's such a bad ass!" Please. It's garbage.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 3:36 PM

3:36 -- boo hoo, your fragile, ordinary sensibilities were challenged by something you didn't expect. Go whine somewhere else, sissy.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 3:43 PM

"Seriously, I've been to a lot of shows and saw a lot of bad opening bands. But this time it was ridiculous. Nobody seemed even to understand what those guys were singing."

Who wrote this - a 65-year-old?

Suicide has been around for over 30 years. I wonder where MGMT is going to be in 30 years.

Posted by Crosseyed Sniper | November 1, 2008 4:06 PM

Suicide is a perfect name for this band, cuz I fucking wanted to kill myself during their set... or at least rip my ears off so I wouldn't have to hear their god-awful shit music. Its not even music! Its two old farts pounding on electronics and screaming shit like 'your mother's a crack whore' and 'i don't want to look at your face.' WTF??

I don't give a shit about how 'relevant' they were in the punk scene... they were absolutely terrible. Without any kind of exaggeration or hyperbole, i can honestly say they were the worst band I've ever witnessed. And don't give me that 'oh you can't handle anything different argument... I love strange, abrasive, and avant-garde music. Suicide was just talentless, and artless noise.

As for MGMT, It was interesting to see them with a full band, and the 'spectacle' aspect of the show gets a B for effort. But they didn't really do anything to change my perception of the band, which is that they have a pretty OK album with 2 great songs on it.

Posted by Jeff | November 1, 2008 4:19 PM

man, suicide looks old as shit

Posted by nick | November 1, 2008 4:19 PM

3:43-Sissy? That's witty. You know nothing of my sensibilities or otherwise, but I'll grant you this; Grinderman did exceed my expectations. It was even worse than I had envisioned. But hey, keep fighting the fight for fans of terrible music, rugged & extraordinary sensibilities everywhere, tough guy!

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 4:33 PM

mgmt was great at mhow last night, best ive seen them. francis and the lights was realllly good as well.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 5:05 PM

3:43-Sissy? That's witty. You know nothing of my sensibilities or otherwise, but I'll grant you this; Grinderman did exceed my expectations. It was even worse than I had envisioned. But hey, keep fighting the fight for fans of terrible music, rugged & extraordinary sensibilities everywhere, tough guy!

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 4:33 PM

mgmt was great at mhow last night, best ive seen them. francis and the lights was realllly good as well.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 5:05 PM

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Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 5:21 PM

ey fucktards, Grinderman COVERED a Suicide song and Nick has performed with Suicide live. they were an inspiration. OOH PWNED

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 5:36 PM

go listen to Suicide's albums and look at some of their early live performances before you judge. Alan Vega's album with Pan Sonic was also fucking great.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 5:39 PM

"I love strange, abrasive, and avant-garde music."

I doubt that this is true.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 5:40 PM

"Suicide is a perfect name for this band, cuz I fucking wanted to kill myself during their set... or at least rip my ears off..."

@ Jeff4:19 - Cool...then the band did its job. It's been pissing people like you off for decades and, if we're lucky, will continue to do so well into the future!

Posted by blackhat | November 1, 2008 6:10 PM

>"The Kaiser Chiefs are just a really bad Blur." - Liam Gallagher

Yeah, and Oasis are just a really bad band.


C'mon - you KNOW dat.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 7:40 PM

Actually....Oasis fucking rules pal. Get a life and a job.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2008 11:10 PM

"get a life and a job."

Conservative BV commenters LOVE Oasis.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2008 2:30 PM

Aside from all the MGMT/Suicide bitching/praise, did anyone notice at Webster Hall that the bass way WAY high in the mix? At first I thought it was just my attempt at wearing earplugs but then, even taking them out, the bass was soaking the sound. The "ironic" Cyndi Lauper cover (which wasn't funny and sounded terrible) was ruined by the bass.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2008 3:17 PM

If nothing else, this show offered iron-clad, multi-generational proof that "Rock" is largely inhabited by people in bad clothes.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2008 3:23 PM

The only songs MGMT played that were not from 'Oracular Spectacular' were the recently-released, non-album single "Metanoia", which they've been playing for a while (played it at McCarren Park Pool this summer), and two covers: "Girls Just Want To Have Fun" and Jesus & Mary Chain's "Teenage Lust".

Setlist:

4th Dimensional Transistion
Pieces of What
Of Moons, Birds & Monsters
Weekend Wars
Time to Pretend
Teenage Lust
Metanoia
Electric Feel
The Handshake
Kids
Girls Just Want To Have Fun
(encore break)
The Youth

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2008 8:00 PM

what's so horrible about webster hall? it's set up pretty much the same way as bowery... sometimes it gets hot, sometimes you can hear techno blasting from downstairs... otherwise, other than the place is fairly large... what sucks about it?

Posted by wembley | November 2, 2008 8:36 PM

check out this video of MGMT's cover of Girls Just Wanna Have Fun... http://vimeo.com/2119174

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2008 9:43 PM

Am I the only one that thinks MGMT might evolve into a really great band. People forget the band has only put out one album. They've only toured once. There young guys...what in the mid 20s. I could see them being a pretty decent band a few more album down the road. This is coming from a fan too.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2008 10:05 PM

does anyone else think it kinda hurts to listen to that video footage?

Posted by themasses | November 2, 2008 11:18 PM

the influnce of Suicide on MGMT's version of "Girls..." is self-evident. I wasnt there but Im sure Suicide killed it. Anyone have a setlist, did they do Frankie Teardrop?

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2008 1:20 AM

video footage was good. the cover...not so much.

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Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2008 3:43 PM

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Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2008 3:48 PM

this thread is soo funy in many ways, because its not about being old, young hip, pretty or a fan of MGMT over suicide, itÈs about being close minded and it is certainly about people who think Budweiser is actual beer, anyone raisong a can of budwesier in the air need to have their arms severed by a hack saw and their tonges ripped out of their mouth. Fucking american piss beer that tastes like shit aqnd makes fat americans fart their doritos.

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2008 4:57 PM

Emmmmmmm MGMT est SUicide?? oah oah oah... lisssssten CUZ i gotta say, person up dey who commented earliah, was dead on. The "art" bands today (mentioned were the dick massagers No Age) paint got a bit on the shits like Suuuuuuuuu

Posted by HANK | May 8, 2009 11:17 AM

Wow, when MGMT opened for Paul McCartney it was almost like murder. They really were kind of painful to listen to, but after a while you can space them out. I think I saw someone's ear bleed at one point. Sadly, Hannah Montannah is way better.

Posted by Sarah | August 6, 2009 3:36 PM

i like mgmt! theres alot of rude ass people on here!

Posted by june | November 20, 2009 4:55 AM

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