Posted in music | video on November 5, 2008

Obama

Video and full speech transcript below...

If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible; who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time; who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen; by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different; that their voice could be that difference.

It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Latino, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled ? Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America.

It's the answer that led those who have been told for so long by so many to be cynical, and fearful, and doubtful of what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.

It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this day, in this election, at this defining moment, change has come to America.

I just received a very gracious call from Senator McCain. He fought long and hard in this campaign, and he's fought even longer and harder for the country he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine, and we are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader. I congratulate him and Governor Palin for all they have achieved, and I look forward to working with them to renew this nation's promise in the months ahead.

I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on that train home to Delaware, the Vice President-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.

I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last sixteen years, the rock of our family and the love of my life, our nation's next First Lady, Michelle Obama. Sasha and Malia, I love you both so much, and you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the White House. And while she's no longer with us, I know my grandmother is watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight, and know that my debt to them is beyond measure.

To my campaign manager David Plouffe, my chief strategist David Axelrod, and the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics ? you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you've sacrificed to get it done.

But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to ? it belongs to you.

I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington ? it began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston.

It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give five dollars and ten dollars and twenty dollars to this cause. It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy; who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep; from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on the doors of perfect strangers; from the millions of Americans who volunteered, and organized, and proved that more than two centuries later, a government of the people, by the people and for the people has not perished from this Earth. This is your victory.

I know you didn't do this just to win an election and I know you didn't do it for me. You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime ? two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century. Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us. There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after their children fall asleep and wonder how they'll make the mortgage, or pay their doctor's bills, or save enough for college. There is new energy to harness and new jobs to be created; new schools to build and threats to meet and alliances to repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America ? I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you ? we as a people will get there.

There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as President, and we know that government can't solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And above all, I will ask you join in the work of remaking this nation the only way it's been done in America for two-hundred and twenty-one years ? block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.

What began twenty-one months ago in the depths of winter must not end on this autumn night. This victory alone is not the change we seek ? it is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were. It cannot happen without you.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism; of service and responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves, but each other. Let us remember that if this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers ? in this country, we rise or fall as one nation; as one people.

Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long. Let us remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House ? a party founded on the values of self-reliance, individual liberty, and national unity. Those are values we all share, and while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress. As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, "We are not enemies, but friends?though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection." And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn ? I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too.

And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of our world ? our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand. To those who would tear this world down ? we will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security ? we support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright ? tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from our the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope.

For that is the true genius of America ? that America can change. Our union can be perfected. And what we have already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that's on my mind tonight is about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She's a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing ? Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn't vote for two reasons ? because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.

And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America ? the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can't, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.

At a time when women's voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot. Yes we can.

When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs and a new sense of common purpose. Yes we can.

When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved. Yes we can.

She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that "We Shall Overcome." Yes we can.

A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination. And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change. Yes we can.

America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves ? if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?

This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time ? to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth ? that out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people:

Yes We Can. Thank you, God bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.

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Tags: Obama, politics

Comments (122)

Obama where u at?

The White House!

Posted by MIA | November 5, 2008 1:08 AM

...second?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 1:15 AM

I am so proud to be American today!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 1:24 AM

not sure this is actually relevant to a music blog...

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 1:26 AM

Greatest moment of my life. You young 19 something NYU cunts will never comprehend how incredible this outcome is because of your fantastic happy-go-lucky, dorm dwelling pieces of liberal shit lives. COngrats on your white asses having 4 more years of takign shit for granted

Posted by klaus_kinski | November 5, 2008 1:31 AM

it's kinda relevant to everyone everywhere

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 1:37 AM

wow even this post brings out snarky cynical fucks.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 1:51 AM

ain't no stopping them. oh well, joke's on you, snarky.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:00 AM

fuck you klaus you nerdy douche blogger

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:21 AM

I love paying more taxes!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:44 AM

Enter the cynics. I find quite ironic Obama mentions the cynics in his speech. Quit bitching and participate.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:49 AM

"I love paying more taxes!"

well, guess what, dickwad - if you make more than $250,000 a year, we don't care whether you love it or hate it - you'll just fucking do it.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:54 AM

ultimately, we're all going to pay higher taxes -- whether it be directly through increased income taxes, or indirectly through inflationary monetary policies. either way, you can't expect to have your money untouched by the massive increase in social programs obama would like to oversee. let's not shit ourselves...just because a politician promises something in his campaign to get elected to the highest office in the world does not mean he has to actually follow through with said promises when he is confronted with the reality of his new office.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:04 AM

I'm very happy with the outcome. However we have the economic meltdown of the last 1.5 months to thank for this. I doubt very much that he would have gotten elected otherwise. Let's hope he's as good as he appears to be and can fix the economy. If he can't, his presidency will hardly make any difference for most people other than our spirits being lifted for now.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:07 AM

We made this happen! If you want things to improve in this country then YOU have to keep participating in all levels of government.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:21 AM

I want some DJ to do a remix of this speech along with Ghostface Killah's "All That I Got Is You"

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:39 AM

California Prop 8 looking bad, 53/47 with 68% reporting.

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/59.htm

the struggle goes on...like the man says, the road will be long and the climb will be steep.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:43 AM

i'm proud of american and fucking pissed at california for being stupid, bigoted and generally fucking retarded. no one can ever argue that LA is better than NYC.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 6:09 AM

Um Everyones gonna be paying more taxes.....

There's not going to be any tax cuts.

Why don't people get that?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 7:02 AM

We seriously NEED to pour more money into basic schooling.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 7:24 AM

i think in fact that EVERY republican administration
has increased the size of government not shrunk it.
increased spending. and given us huge debt.
go googling kids. and we all pay for those deficits
with guess what???? your tax dollars.
just don't call it a tax increase.
only the very rich always have lawyers and accountants
to find ways to get out of paying.

Posted by gregory | November 5, 2008 7:27 AM

exactly gregory

but don't expect them to admit that

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 7:31 AM

We are very glad! (Inhabitants of Russia)

Posted by kreatiffchik | November 5, 2008 7:44 AM

we are very glad here too!!!
inhabitants of America

Posted by gregory | November 5, 2008 7:47 AM

I wish Nixon could run. Now that man was a leader!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:11 AM

I am Obama. I hereby pardon King Kahn for his zany antics.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:18 AM

I hope they change laws so ARNOLD can run in 2012.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:31 AM

yay! its over. Now life can go back to same as always.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:41 AM

I'm about to head to Grant Park to talk to everyone gathered there, but I wanted to write to you first.

We just made history.

And I don't want you to forget how we did it.

You made history every single day during this campaign -- every day you knocked on doors, made a donation, or talked to your family, friends, and neighbors about why you believe it's time for change.

I want to thank all of you who gave your time, talent, and passion to this campaign.

We have a lot of work to do to get our country back on track, and I'll be in touch soon about what comes next.

But I want to be very clear about one thing...

All of this happened because of you.

Thank you,

Barack

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:42 AM

McCain won in Staten Island

Posted by more reason to hate Staten Island | November 5, 2008 8:50 AM

This speech was absolutely amazing. Especially coming from a man I'm proud to say is President!

Posted by Lori | November 5, 2008 8:54 AM

of course mccain won in SI. Another reason why SI sucks even more

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:57 AM

"well, guess what, dickwad - if you make more than $250,000 a year, we don't care whether you love it or hate it - you'll just fucking do it."

Haha. But you'll be shamefully poor with your hand out, parasite.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:01 AM

you do have to give McCain respect
for being a stand-up guy
and running a fair CLEAN campaign.

Posted by gregory | November 5, 2008 9:07 AM

He's no Viv Girls

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:10 AM

Anyone know who his speech writer is?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:19 AM

How was the celebration? See any titties?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:19 AM

Barack, thanks for waking me up at 12:45 last night with your text message!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:21 AM

Ah, "Jon Favreau is the chief speechwriter for Barack Obama's 2008 campaign."

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:21 AM

"well, guess what, dickwad - if you make more than $250,000 a year, we don't care whether you love it or hate it - you'll just fucking do it."

Actually, its 150K...and dropping.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:35 AM

150K. That's not even a lot in NYC. Fuck.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:38 AM

As one of the co called Right Wing music fans that frequents this site, I'd like to comment that I respect Obama's achievement and wish him well, even if I disagree with income redistribution and negotaiting with Islamic Fundamentalists.

We're all comrades now!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:41 AM

Is Obama a blipster? Would anyone hit it?

Posted by Regular reader | November 5, 2008 9:47 AM

man im so happy!!!!!!!!!! woooooohooo. Party on Bedford last night was amazing..I'm actually proud of our country for the first time in so long, and so happy hope is finally on it's way.

Posted by YES WE DID!!! | November 5, 2008 9:53 AM

say it with me now...

NO...WE...CAN'T....NO...WE....CAN'T!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 9:58 AM

Any bands play at the party?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:01 AM

Obama is a long legged mac daddy!

Posted by ROCK STARchitect | November 5, 2008 10:02 AM

This is the greatest country on earth! after eight years of a slight speed bump we're back!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:22 AM

people talking about taxes increasing need to do some research.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:23 AM

anon 9:41 - "As one of the co called Right Wing music fans that frequents this site, I'd like to comment that I respect Obama's achievement and wish him well, even if I disagree with income redistribution and negotaiting with Islamic Fundamentalists."

Those were scare tactics made up by the republican machine AND IT DIDN'T WORK. we won.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:23 AM

"Those were scare tactics made up by the republican machine AND IT DIDN'T WORK. we won."

HAHAHA

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:29 AM

Why oh why does it all boil down to taxes? We HAVE to pay more in taxes (it is almost 2010 and things are s'pensive dontcha know!), unless of course there are magical roads that pave themselves, schools that build themselves, bridges that repair themselves...get the point....yeah low taxes will solve the infrastructure issues here in America. The USA is already turning into a shithole country. Morons.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:49 AM

Cheers to the person who noted that regardless of inevitable tax increases, you are also going to be paying loads more than that via monetary debasement which Obama (and McCain, btw) loves.

Congrats to Tweedledum, he's at least *slightly less* of a warmonger than McCain, and he could never have done it without the kool-aid pounding indie vote!

At least we've all rid ourselves of that white guilt! right? right??

Posted by anon | November 5, 2008 10:55 AM

pivotal moment in this nations history.
we've proven that we can change and there is hope for a better future.
much respect to John McCain.
he's a national hero and a dedicated servant of the US, but this is not his time to run our country.
things won't be perfect under Barack, but the fact that we are willing to choose a different direction in our leadership says it all.
proud to be an american on this great day.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:57 AM

10:55. Ouch. YAY SOCiALISM!

Posted by sloweducation | November 5, 2008 11:06 AM

Listen, guys, Obama is not "raising taxes". He is making people who earn over $250,000 a year pay the correct and balanced amount of taxes, which they currently don't. It's rebalancing taxes, not raising them.

And well, you know what, I'd be fine with higher taxes if they were going to positive social programs. We need those. It's better than paying for these two wars forever.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 11:08 AM

WOW Klaus Kinski is such a huge DOUCEHBAG.
What an unbelievable spiteful tool.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 11:09 AM

Oops, meant DOUCHEBAG. I'm so amazed at Klaus' douchebaggery, I can't even spell.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 11:11 AM

$250,000 per family! Not per person! Maybe all you liberals should start watching fox news to round out your facts to reality.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 11:23 AM

I agree, well said 10:57

"pivotal moment in this nations history.
we've proven that we can change and there is hope for a better future.
much respect to John McCain.
he's a national hero and a dedicated servant of the US, but this is not his time to run our country.
things won't be perfect under Barack, but the fact that we are willing to choose a different direction in our leadership says it all.
proud to be an american on this great day."

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 11:34 AM

since i earn 220k less that than, i don't care...

but what i really want is free national healthcare so i can quite my shitty fucking job and bring my AGI down to 0.

can't someone else do it?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 11:36 AM

@Anon11:23 - Relax...or it's gonna be a very long four+ years for you. Kinda like what it's fealt like for many of us suffering through the last eight.

Posted by blackhat | November 5, 2008 11:45 AM

on the flip side, what are indie musicians going to write about now?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:05 PM

I can't believe I never have to hear John McCain give a speech again. What a clown.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:13 PM

great point 12:05pm.

who is Kanye West going to blame natural disasters on?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:19 PM

Prop 8 is very bad news. So is Arizona prop 102 and Florida Prop 2 and the Arkansas adoption ban. That's 4 states (2 of them blue) voting for aggressive legislation against the gays.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:25 PM

You haters won't get me down. GObama!!!!!!! The celebrations ACROSS the world were full of joy. What an amazing feeling. FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT EVER. I feel like a cloud has been lifted from our country. January 09 can't come soon enough. Word of advice for everyone on here that is wasting their time reacting with comments to the idiots that are trying to ruin our day, please IGNORE them. Don't feed it, keep it focused on the happiness of the moment! This is history people. WE made this happen. Let's continue the celebration, and take a moment to acknowledge what an amazing milestone we have just reached together as Americans. I am truly proud. :) I don't remember the last time I felt this kind of happiness! Let's hear it for our future president people! YES WE DID!

Posted by :) | November 5, 2008 12:27 PM

Obama essentially writes his own speeches:

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837368,00.html

Yes, our new president actually has a brain!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:31 PM

This election= a good look.

"Maybe all you liberals should start watching fox news to round out your facts to reality."

Hahahahahaha! Enjoy the next four years, guy!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:35 PM

unfortunately, one of the biggest voting blocks that consistently votes against equal rights for gay couples is... black people.


Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:35 PM

good news that the three anti-abortion ballot measures failed (Colorado, California, South Dakota), while all four of the anti-gay ballot measures succeeded.

but strange, especially since the new President gave a shout out to the gays in the THIRD sentence of his acceptance speech.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:40 PM

barack obama may support equal rights for gay couples, but black people statistically do not, and they voted in record numbers this year.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:43 PM

Fuck Obama and all you assholes who vote for him b/c Bruce Springsteen and Madonna and all the other musicans on a high horse tell you to.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 1:48 PM

I am most excited that Obama wants to give at least a billion dollars to the president of Georgia (you know the guy that ordered an attack on his own civilians in South Ossetia?). I also LOVE that Obama supported the $700 billion Wall Street / Central Bank bailout. I also love that Obama has been all over TV for months saying he can't wait to invade Pakistan. Huge government and more spending and wars are all really great and if you disagree you are a bigot.

What I love most of all is the opportunity to feel santimonious about "OUR" vote.

Meet the new boss, clowns.

Posted by anon and on | November 5, 2008 1:51 PM

^^^ Are you really that retarded?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:00 PM

It's nice to read these comments and see that at least not all of you are blind sheep following this orwellian herd.

That being said, I'm still frightened by what we have turned into.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:03 PM

blah blah taxes blah blah inexperienced blah blah terrorism blah blah liberal hippies blah blah marxism

suck it republicans. go crawl under a fucking rock. guess who doesn't give a shit about the rich paying higher taxes.

four years from now there will be even MORE young voters who aren't scared of TEH GAY and TEH BABBY KILLERZ and there will be four more years worth of old racist fucks in the ground.

LATER!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:07 PM

Hey 2:03, while i agree with you on the herd bit, i think this is a good first baby step to the actual cultural & spiritual revolution this WORLD so badly needs. he inspires people to do good, that in my book cannot be bad.

Posted by sloweducation | November 5, 2008 2:18 PM

Giving the Govt the power to take money from one person, and then give it to another person (who doesn't pay anything to the nation in taxes) should give everyone pause, unless, that is, you agree with income redistribution. That being said, today is a great day for the idea of racial equality in the USA.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:19 PM

Obama could step into Washington in January 2009, take a shit and walk right back out again and the World would still respect him more than they do George W. Bush.

Posted by blackhat | November 5, 2008 2:22 PM

Hey fellow republicans, are you going to miss Sarah Palin? What about Palin for president in 2012???

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:26 PM

That "world", that racist, jealous of America no matter who's in the White House world, can fuck off.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:27 PM

2:03pm...

accusing people of being "blind sheep following an orwellian herd" because they voted for obama is stunted thinking.
you have no idea about the motivation behind anyone's vote but your own.
someone was going to be elected to the office of president, and barack was the better man (of the two options) for the job in most people's opinion.
his victory does not make the legions of first-time voters sheep.
it makes them active participants in our government.
empowered citizens.
perhaps try offering up solutions to our problems rather than misguided insults to enthusiastic voters.
your cynicism does nothing to better anyone's situation.
all it does is make you sound like an anonymous dick.

Posted by 10:57am | November 5, 2008 2:48 PM

Sheep are happy today.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:54 PM

I see there are a lot of christians around here. that's cool. go christians!

please keep talking about socialism and gays, because that really worked for you yesterday.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:56 PM

Exit Poll: 70% of the people who voted FOR Obama think raises taxes in the current environment is a mistake.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 2:59 PM

2:18...He doesnt ask people to do good...he forces them to and there is a profound difference.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:07 PM

Prop 8 won't stand up in court, not California supreme court and definitely not federal. There are ALWAYS anti-gay measures on state ballots, fewer of them this time than in 2006 or 2004.

but still bizarre it passed when Obama took the state by 24 points.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:13 PM

"Exit Poll: 70% of the people who voted FOR Obama think raises taxes in the current environment is a mistake."

Exit Poll: 99,9% of the people who voted yesterday (and since the very first election) don't like to pay more taxes in any current past or whatever environment.

.... no wonder Bush was here for 8 years ...

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:14 PM

"2:18...He doesnt ask people to do good...he forces them to and there is a profound difference."

What has he forced you to do?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:17 PM

A great first step to recovery, but just a first step. The Republicans didn’t lose as many seats in the House than they expected and the Democrats won’t get their 60 seats even if they nab Minnesota.

like Obama says, “This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change.”

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:21 PM

soon, the economic depression will teach all of the cocky young privileged libertarian republican hipsters a lesson in suffering and struggle.

you're just like the fools in the 1920s. They also thought prosperity would never end and that free markets and rugged individualism were the only policies that mattered. The 30s dealt them a dose of reality.

Soon enough you'll be standing in the handout line yourselves, and you'll deny up and down that you ever said the government can't do anything for people.

We've all already seen it with the 700 billion dollar credit bailout. Remember when the House voted down the first draft of the bill? The stock brokers and investment bankers and all the usual free market cheerleaders were on the news that night, complaining about how the government was being selfish and derelict in its duty as "the lender of last resort."

It's always funny how attitudes change when it's your own ass up against the wall.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:29 PM

I like Republicans, they fucked up for 8 years and they still feel they should get the ball.

PS Say hello to Dan Quayle for me.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 3:49 PM

THIS JUST IN: TV on the Radio is performing at the Inaugural Ball!!!

Posted by Regular reader | November 5, 2008 3:52 PM

Looks like the market (down 486 today) has lots of faith in Pres Obama's economic policies.

And Anon 3:29, you're funny, in a cooky, liberal kind of way.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:07 PM

"2:18...He doesnt ask people to do good...he forces them to and there is a profound difference."

"What has he forced you to do?"

If he goes through with it, he'll be forcing some people, by law (i.e. by threat of force) to give the money they work hard for to the govt, so the govt can then "redistribute" it to someone who pays nothing.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:22 PM

@Anon4:22 - Assuming your position for the sake of argument, George Bush, John McCain and the rest of the Republicans are different how? It's called taxes buddy.

Posted by blackhat | November 5, 2008 4:32 PM

4:07, your response lacks any points or facts, in an underinformed, limpdicked, privileged white boy sort of way

the market wasn't exactly rallying before the election either.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:43 PM

"Anon4:22 - Assuming your position for the sake of argument, George Bush, John McCain and the rest of the Republicans are different how? It's called taxes buddy."


Buddy - Its different for the fact that taxes taken and then given to someone WHO DOESN'T PAY TAXES is straight up income redistribution aka WELFARE. Collecting taxes and using the $ for valid purposes is one thing. Just giving someone elses earned money to a non-taxpayer is BS. But you probably make jack shit anyway so dont worry about it.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:49 PM

"4:07, your response lacks any points or facts, in an underinformed, limpdicked, privileged white boy sort of way"

Good thing I'm a somewhat informed, well endowed, underpriveledged asian, sherlock!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:50 PM

just like a libertarian zombie to try to use the market's apparent approval or disapproval as "proof" of anything.

Here's a newsflash for ya, 4:07, nobody believes in the "wisdom of markets" any more. That fairytale died with credit bubble.

anyway, the stockmarket's opinion of Barack Obama is hardly monolithic or self-evident, and also is totally irrelevant. The financial industry gets shit dead wrong all the time, case in point the current financial disaster we find ourselves in.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:50 PM

upper middle class asian in america is pretty much the same thing as being a white boy

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:53 PM

how did a blog about veganism and obscure rock music become a hang out for young republican ayn rand devotees?

dude, there's a whole financial industry out there in this city that's just begging for your input.

please save it for them, because we here in the music world don't buy into your free market group think bullshit, and find you really really tiresome.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 4:56 PM

@Anon4:49 - Lets start with the obvious...you have no idea how much money I make and, of course, it's none of your business. To argue that Obama will take all your hard earned wealth and give it to those "lazy folks on welfare" makes you sound like Archie Bunker. Regardless, Obama won...live with it pal.

Posted by blackhat | November 5, 2008 4:57 PM

wow 4:50. what a zinger.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 5:00 PM

STILL MORE HATE IN '08

Posted by MORH8 | November 5, 2008 5:03 PM

I don't think Barack Obama invented mandatory taxation, so what are you bitching about? You think we'd be better off if taxes were voluntary? Good luck with that system, I wouldn't want to live in that country!

Politics is a running argument over what segments of the population should pay what percentages of the cost of government. What's the difference between Obama raising taxes on the top brackets and Bush effectively raising them on the working middle class by way of endless deficits (caused by huge tax cuts for the wealthy) that will be payed back both in taxes and in a lower standard of living years down the road?

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 5:14 PM

@Anon4:49 - Lets start with the obvious...you have no idea how much money I make and, of course, it's none of your business. To argue that Obama will take all your hard earned wealth and give it to those "lazy folks on welfare" makes you sound like Archie Bunker. Regardless, Obama won...live with it pal."

HAHAHA - Yes, lets start with the obvious, which is that I never wrote "lazy folks on welfare," so it looks like you be the Archie Bunker in here. You really shouldnt talk down about people like that.

And about dealing with Obama's win, uh, yeah, I voted for him, genius, but, apparently unlike you, I don't advocate redistribution of wealth. And yea, you make shit so dont worry about it.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 5:18 PM

5:18, you really just shouldn't try.

it's not workin out for you, seriously

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 5:24 PM

Paying taxes to the Govt, for the benefit of Govt, so that it may function, as is written in the Constitution, is obviously valid. Paying taxes to the govt, so the govt can straight up send a check to someone who does not pay any taxes is govt mandated theft. The fact that so many people dont see the difference is absolutely ridiculous.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 5:25 PM

^^^Life is a redistribution of wealth braintrust.

Posted by blackhat | November 5, 2008 5:25 PM

"^^^Life is a redistribution of wealth braintrust." was directed @ Anon5:18 by the way.

Posted by blackhat | November 5, 2008 5:28 PM

yea right you were making 250k a year then you fucking woke up bitch. hahaha!

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 5:47 PM

all property is theft.

you have no more natural right to the figure in your bank account than you have to own the ocean or the sun

"property" is an absurdity, a construct that we have to adhere to because no one's come up with a better plan yet

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 6:24 PM

Why hasn't Proudhon, erm i mean anonymous at 6:24, donated his computer to the state since his owning such property is obviously theft? Maybe they can take all of our computers from us so they can drop them on them en masse on the Iranian population?

I'm also LOLing at 3:29. I love that your argument AGAINST free markets is to rail against the bailout which is a prime example of gov't intervention and crony capitalism (ie. Keynesianism, ie. the Democratic position). That bailout was manifest bullshit because it redistributed wealth from taxpayers (actually holders of US currencies) to the politically well-connected. This is always how redistribution of wealth works.

Immoral? Yes. Doomed to failure? Yes. Perfectly in line with FDR and the New Deal? Of course, why do you think the Depression lasted fifteen years? Emblematic of free markets. Nope.

Posted by anon | November 5, 2008 7:00 PM

no, 3:29 used the bailout to highlight that free market types are generally hypocrites who can only see opportunities for government intervention when it's their own asses that are on the line.


Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 7:40 PM

6:24 is right, and by the way, if you were to read the post rather than simply skimming it for material, as 7:00 did, you'd notice that the guy notes that nobody has a better plan than property rights.

the point is, contrary to your hero Ayn Rand, property is not a natural right. It's a system that men have come up with to sort out disputes.

It's rather flawed, needs frequent tweaks and corrections and protections, and benefits historic despots, oppressors, and thieves, but it's the best system out there.

The point is, property "rights" alone are no argument against progressive taxes. There's no valid natural "right" that keeps the government from using your taxes to pay for anything that a democracy chooses to spend its treasury on, redistribution included.

Whether or not progressive tax codes work to improve the standard of living of the people? That's a far more valid argument.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 7:52 PM

good news that the three anti-abortion ballot measures failed (Colorado, California, South Dakota), while all four of the anti-gay ballot measures succeeded.

but strange, especially since the new President gave a shout out to the gays in the THIRD sentence of his acceptance speech.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:40 PM

barack obama may support equal rights for gay couples, but black people statistically do not, and they voted in record numbers this year.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 12:43 PM

Obama "does not support [same-sex marriage] and is not inclined to fight for it, his advisers say":

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/01/us/politics/01marriage.html

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 8:20 PM

obama supports same sex marriage more than anybody else you will possible get into the white house in the next 20 years, so be pleased you have an ally.

Posted by Anonymous | November 5, 2008 10:38 PM

Nonetheless, on this issue, he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. That disqualifies him from sainthood.

Posted by Anonymous | November 6, 2008 3:55 PM

sure, but the gay rights movement's failures at the polls on Tuesday show that it's not an issue where you can be in the right and agree with the majority of Americans at the same time.

so Obama has to conceal that he supports gay marriage, he can't do much without public support... and first off he had to get elected.

do you know what's really sad? most federal level politicians secretly agree that gay marriage should be allowed. it's the American people who are blocking this.

Posted by Anonymous | November 6, 2008 4:03 PM

american people are blocking gay marriage cause they are all homophobes which means they really harbor a desire to have sex with a donkey...duh!

Posted by Anonymous | November 7, 2008 12:50 PM

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