Posted in music on January 13, 2009

Vigin Megastore

"We knew the iconic Virgin Megastore was on its way out, but now we've got a date for the goodbye party. The store closes this coming April; not long after, a Forever 21 will open in its space. Some fun facts: Virgin has the highest volume of music sales in the US, and that location was "profitable to the tune of $6 million," but it was only paying $54/square foot in rent (as opposed to the $700/square foot that's market rate for the neighborhood.) Worrying about the Union Square outpost, Idolator speculates about how long we have "before Other Music becomes the retail powerhouse of New York City by default."" [Racked]
In related news, AC Newman & Nicole Atkins will be performing at the Union Square location on Tuesday, January 20th at 7:00 PM.

And in other related news, Record Store Day returns this year. The date is April 18, 2009. Stay tuned for a list of festivities that will happen in non-megastore type record stores across the country that haven't gone out of business by then. Last year there were sales and in-store shows and and limited editions and free schwag and other fun stuff like that.

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Comments (90)

anyone notice that forever 21 plays pretty good music? for real.

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 8:09 PM

hell yes on virgin closing. down with the majors, one by one.

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 8:19 PM

hey does anybody remember that place XS that used to be in times square?

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 8:41 PM

fuck cd/record stores. download bootlegs.

Posted by ian | January 13, 2009 9:14 PM

virgin megastore isnt just a record store its like a times square icon! so many recording artists have performed there and held meet & greets on the day of their album release... and a clothing store in the middle of times square? wtf?!? awful idea! =(

Posted by barbie | January 13, 2009 9:41 PM

you know what, even though virgin is a major you gotta admit that the store has been a staple and a symbol of music in nyc for many years now. whether you liked it or not, it served as the one stop to find a shitload of uncommon imports, vinyl, and the common stuff (even though it was grossly overpriced). more importantly, it served as a venue for many events- autograph signings, music signings, special promotions...it also was a reflection of the media conglomerate MTV (literally across the street), to which although many of us who are deeper into music might say "YOU SUCK!!", you gotta admire its pop status during those TRL years. (see the video on TRL, go across the street and buy the CD, the single, and maybe the t shirt all at virgin).

and come the fuck on, forever 21???? give me a fucking break. that's the last place i'll go on a boring day...it will be another fucking trap for tourists to go when they need a hint of familiarity on their "dangerous and exciting" trek to the streets of new york...nyc is quickly turning into suburban sprawl, going to forever 21 and eating at the TGI Fridays across the street.

Posted by JM | January 13, 2009 9:42 PM

sales on yet?

Posted by anon | January 13, 2009 9:49 PM

J & R Music World was always my thing.........but, sad to see any 'record store' go....

Posted by mhomefront | January 13, 2009 10:27 PM

here's a little joke for you:

Q: What record store do shitty DJ's buy their records from?

A: None, because they play MP3's they download off the internet!

=)

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 10:45 PM

"a symbol of music in nyc for many years now. "

The store is not that old. Tower Records was around way longer before they closed.

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 10:58 PM

it was sad when tower records closed.

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 11:04 PM

With Branson selling Virgin retail in the UK and this being one of the last international outlets left, we're lossing virgins faster than a prom night

Posted by Anonymous | January 13, 2009 11:42 PM

Branson hasn't owned the US retail stores for years now. Via Reuters today:

"The store has been at the center of speculation since August 2007 when the Virgin Entertainment Group North America was acquired by two real estate companies -- the Related Cos. and Vornado -- in a joint venture.

Last June, a Vornado executive told Reuters that the store would shut down in the first quarter of 2009. The decision to close the store appears related to real estate and the value connected to the location. That executive was quoted as saying that Virgin pays only $54 per square-foot when the market rent in the area is about $700 a square foot.

So, while the store, which does an estimated $55 million in annual volume, is profitable to the tune of $6 million, according to sources, the space would be even more profitable for its owner with a higher rent tenant. Vornado bought the 180,000 square foot retail component of the Bertelsmann building, which houses the Times Square store, in 2006, and will lease the space to Century 21, according to reports."

Posted by Marla Singer | January 14, 2009 12:12 AM

marla- by my calendar thats a year and a half...

i think it really really sucks when record stores are now going the way the book stores have been closing in the last 10 years. i think it shows that our society has become degenerate and like it or not fragmented. when i was growing up you had 3 bookstores in queens center mall and area, now there is not one bookstore in that abomination, you had 5 bookstores in 3 block stretch of 5th avenue near rockefeller center, same thing not one bookstore now left.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 12:48 AM

it's like how we lost the barnes and noble on 21st & 6th ave and then the one on astor.... (those were such good ones, too!) so anyway, first, it's book stores and then, it's record stores... there's something to be said for the tactile experience, no?

Posted by myhipsdontlie | January 14, 2009 1:00 AM

forever 21 in a massive times square space?

well there goes any ounce of credibility that place may have ever had

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 1:09 AM

times square inches its way back to porn

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 1:32 AM

I'll miss the Virgin Megastores. I worked at Worldwide Plaza when the TSq one opened (1998 or so) and I spent a lot of time there on lunchbreaks. For a big chain they had great buyers, nice staff, and deep selection. They also had those theaters in the basement floor, that went from regular, to second-run, to Bollywood. I'll miss it.

And I'll miss the Union Sq store even more when it eventually leaves. I mean, I always spent more dough at Other Music, but they had good in-stores ...and I kill a lot of time there to this day browsing around and usually end up buying something. In the end, Virgin is a record store, not a Wal-Mart with three racks of CDs. We should support all real record stores that still exist, even the Mega ones.

Posted by bill p | January 14, 2009 2:45 AM

it would be a shame if they shut down union sq for another cheap store.
So even if a band wanted to perform - where would they go in manhattan besides OM? which is the size of a closet.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 2:48 AM

this really pisses me off

Posted by slob | January 14, 2009 2:56 AM

"times square inches its way back to porn"

haha, nice.

all I gotta say is that's gonna be one big forever 21

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 3:18 AM

don't all the tourists have a forever 21 where they live?
really sad.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 4:58 AM

this is sad news.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 8:46 AM

id be curious if there were a full listing of record stores/venues that have closed in the past 5 years. i dunno, im starting to get tired of saying goodbye to used cd stores that i would once spend hours in therapeutically flipping through em all. or venues that have been a huge staple in my life when i first moved to new york. im starting to think it's a sign to move on out of here.

4:58 - good point.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 8:47 AM

Say what you will about the pricing, but the selection was great. Will the Forever 21 be built with a leering section that serves alcohol?

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 8:51 AM

I remember when Tower went out of businesss. As sad as I was, I was able to buy up the entire Felt back catalog for next to nothing. Something tells me I'm gonna have to hit Virgin on the early morning tip to take advantage of those sales.

Posted by K | January 14, 2009 8:51 AM

If i remember right NY Times listed all the record stores that closed around the time that tower went out of business, might want to search their archive.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 8:55 AM

It’s funny that these superstores are being mourned, since when both Tower and Virgin opened, they were vilified for killing off the smaller places.

BleeckerBobz4Life, yo.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 9:15 AM

As someone who regularly buys music the closing of the Virgin store means nothing to me. What does matter is the downsizing and the moving of Kim's (from St Mark's to 1st Ave between 7th and 8th).
All I can say is thank God for Other Music.

Posted by Miguel | January 14, 2009 9:16 AM

Yeah, even if you're the most indie hipster who claims loyalty to the mom & pop chains (whose death can't be far behind), you have to admit that is very bad news. If anything for the fact that in-store performances & album signings will be a thing of the past. You really can't make up for that. As another posted stated, Other Music & Soundfix can only hold so many people, & attract so many types of bands.

I was sad when Tower closed. This is probably worse.

As yet another poster pointed out, Virgin isn't a big-chain Wal-Mart-type store with 3 racks of family-friendly CDs. If you love music, you should feel sad that a very large, ACTUAL MUSIC STORE is closing.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 9:24 AM

other music is my favorite nyc record store. that being said, other music could be a lot better. the sales people can be overly-pretentious and they recommend everything. also, i hate the fact that there are no listening stations. many of your finest record stores (amoeba records (CA), zulu records (Vancouver) etc., have multiple listening stations, where other music only has its weekly email sampler.

i'm going to miss virigin. i live near union square and have killed many an hour brousing and listening to what's new.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 9:26 AM

Given the choice, I'd rather have an overpriced but well-stocked record store than a fuckign Forever 21....

Posted by Rajah of Rehab | January 14, 2009 9:41 AM

I love Virgin Music Union Square- it's great to just wonder around and see something you totally didn't expect them to carry.
Kim's moving sucks.
Other music sucks- no listening station, small used section.
The best record stores are in Brooklyn.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:01 AM

yeah agreed on Union Square, it was a good spot to kill some time if you were going to the movies or Webster Hall or Irving Plaze.

NYC is killing itself. I have a friend who works for one of the major resturants in the city and he says business has been down 30 to 40 percent since before Christmass. Im afraid lot of businesses will fail or are about to fail, no one is getting paid on time, its like a domino or avalanche effect and there seems to be nothing you can do about it. Unemployment numbers are artificially kept low as they always were in USA, the real unemployment is probably close to 15%.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:23 AM

I thought all the good in-store were at Union Square anyway. Are people saying they actually trek up to that tourist hellhole to buy records?

Long live Other Music. At least some of those people are super nice and helpful. No listening stations, but I like reading their album descriptions. And if you really needed to hear something, I bet they'd put it on for you.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:42 AM

agreed on kims...

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:46 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/arts/music/18reco.html?_r=1&ref=business&pagewanted=print

855am, thanks. i remember that now, and searched bv archives and found.

if anyone else is interested, i reposted the link.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:48 AM

time's square is the worst place on earth.
i refuse to go near it so i can't care what the hell goes on up there.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:52 AM

agreed 10:52. let's just hope that the union square virgin doesn't share the same fate. i've killed way too much time; spent too much money; seen many too many good bands; and stalked too many cute boys there to see it go away.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 11:11 AM

11:11am - wanna stalk me there tonight?

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 11:41 AM

the music industry is run be greedy morons selling pieces of mass produced plastic with a 1500% profit margin.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 11:49 AM

It's not a surprise that this 'music store' is closing and being replaced by a clothing store. This so called 'giant record store' is a shadow of its former self as a record and CD outlet. Most of the store for the past several years has been lifestyle accessories for the MTV set rather than mostly music anyway. When you take into account all the t shirts, sweatshirts, wallets, hand bags, bracelets, books, calenders, magazines, video games, DVD's and other assorted crap, there's not really that much floor space devoted to CD's. An entire front section of the store has been devoted to cell phones and cell phone accessories for almost a year now. There's a small section of CD's in one corner on the first floor and the whole rest of the floor is filled with overpriced teenage girl t shirts and other nonsence with the typical retro 60s rock bands on them. Not really a lot of music in this store to be missing when it's gone.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 11:55 AM

Don't forget Academy on 18th - good used section.

also, Virgin at Union Sq. doesn't carry a lot of imports like the did a few years ago. That space is now occupied by video games.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 12:23 PM

is Downtown Music on bowery still open?

I found a long out-of-print live Blues Project cd there a few years back.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 12:27 PM

Bleeker St records is good in terms of rare stuff selection. It is pricy though!

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 12:31 PM

don't forget Generation Records too. I love that place.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 1:02 PM

@11:55: pretty much the entire first basement floor is CDs!

ugh, i work a few blocks away from virgin times square. it was the only refuge during the day and soon there will be another tourist trap with carrie sadshaw wannabe's blocking the sidewalk thinking they're cooler than you.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 2:04 PM

I think it's silly that people still resort to snobbery during times like this. Bottom line, music stores, indie AND corporate, will eventually cease to exist because of our digital habits. Convenience whores rejoice...but you cannot replace a whole experience (liner notes, cover art, talking to store staff, digging thru music browsers) with a friggin' file. There is something just so painfully intangible about MP3's. Virgin is closing due to a leasing issue, but let's face it, if physical music retail was still thriving, they could afford the rent demands. The indies are closing for the same reason...So don't give me snobbery. Virgin staffs hundreds of employees, and while they may not ALL be your Soundfixx indie guru's (there are a few), they do care about music and physical product...and folks will always lose jobs for that in the digital age.

Posted by M. | January 14, 2009 4:58 PM

In response to this:

"It's not a surprise that this 'music store' is closing and being replaced by a clothing store. This so called 'giant record store' is a shadow of its former self as a record and CD outlet. Most of the store for the past several years has been lifestyle accessories for the MTV set rather than mostly music anyway. When you take into account all the t shirts, sweatshirts, wallets, hand bags, bracelets, books, calenders, magazines, video games, DVD's and other assorted crap, there's not really that much floor space devoted to CD's. An entire front section of the store has been devoted to cell phones and cell phone accessories for almost a year now. There's a small section of CD's in one corner on the first floor and the whole rest of the floor is filled with overpriced teenage girl t shirts and other nonsence with the typical retro 60s rock bands on them. Not really a lot of music in this store to be missing when it's gone."

...Dear Sir, if they could survive just selling music, they would. Too bad no one buys music anymore.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 5:03 PM

Other Music is great, but it is small and low-stock. It is great for the indie demographic but even still, does not carry everything. It's called "Other Music" for a reason and sometimes you just want EVERYTHING to be in one place...for EVERYONE. ...or you at least want to still have that option.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 5:07 PM

RE: 4:58

not true dude. music stores are not dead. the marketshare just got smaller. TV did not kill the radio star, blogs are not going to kill print media, and there will always be music stores. the internet/digitization of media just makes more competition. people are still buying tangible music, just not the quazillions that once were. last year vinyl sales actually went UP.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 5:29 PM

11:41am: are you a cute boy? ;)

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 5:32 PM

5:32: are you? :)

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 6:18 PM

6:18pm: nope sorry; was hoping you preferred a stalker of the cute girl variety. ;)

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 6:32 PM

who's in to pee?

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 9:23 PM

ewwwwwwwww...... this is a music site for chrissakes. keep it somewhat NC-17.

Posted by Anonymous | January 14, 2009 10:08 PM

"i'm going to miss virigin. i live near union square and have killed many an hour brousing and listening to what's new."

Good, now you can spend more hours working, you lazy shit.

Posted by Anonymous | January 15, 2009 8:01 AM

who cares. times sq. is so fucking lame anyway. generation records!

Posted by Anonymous | January 15, 2009 10:55 AM

"I worked at Worldwide Plaza when the TSq one opened (1998 or so)"

Didn't it open around 1996?

Posted by Anonymous | January 15, 2009 11:03 AM

Times square is goddamn annoying.

Posted by Uptown Sound | January 15, 2009 12:40 PM

etherea is cool.

Posted by Anonymous | January 15, 2009 2:25 PM

6:18 -

I like stalkers of the cute girl variety! and I am a cute boy of the cute boy variety.

Posted by anony-mouse | January 15, 2009 3:15 PM

"who's in to pee?"

Itz soooo on!

Posted by Big Perm | January 15, 2009 3:32 PM

3:15 -

sweet! it's so hard to find a cute boy who can a appreciate cute stalker girl. (and just for the record, i'm not crazy; at least not in a scary way.)

Posted by Anonymous | January 15, 2009 3:59 PM

let's remember the hundreds of employees who will get laid off in a market where people with bachelor's and master's degrees still have to supplement their income with a minimum wage retail job. the big box experience might not seem as personal as an indie record store, but the staff (being one of them) at virgin records are knowledgeable and passionate about music and movies (by the way, the dvd selection is the best in the city) and i for one am always overjoyed to share some of that passion with a customer who doesn't necessarily know about those smaller places. plus, if we don't carry something that someone is looking for, i always direct them to other music, kim's, sounds, etc.

from the girl with purple hair at union square.

Posted by liz | January 15, 2009 6:16 PM

arrright let me know when we're on, and I'm ready to be stalked. do i have to do anything? or just hang out? scary is ok.

Posted by anony-moose | January 15, 2009 11:33 PM

3:59 -arrright, we're on, and I'm ready to be stalked. do i have to do anything? or just hang out? you can be scary, it's ok.

Posted by anony-moose | January 15, 2009 11:34 PM

11:34-
cool! i'm not sure what is protocol for planning and execution of stalking between a cute boy and a cute girl, as it's usually a spontaneous occurence. i'm open to suggestions? :)

Posted by Anonymous | January 15, 2009 11:54 PM

THIS CANT BE HAPPENING! . THIS IS THE BEST STORE EVER!!! ITS NOT JUST A STORE ITS A TIMES SQUARE ICON!

Posted by pau | January 16, 2009 12:27 AM

11:54
this is so Pump Up The Volume, huh? let's stalk each other at Virgin Megastore next week. 14th street.

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 1:49 PM

1:49
an appreciation of cute stalker girls AND teen angst-ridden / music movies... im cruhing on you already! it's a date. preferable time and day?

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 1:55 PM

1:55
monday at 2pm near the DVD of that very film

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 1:56 PM

1:56
i'll be there.

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 2:06 PM

2:06
wow really? so hot

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 2:23 PM

haha do it, just like in Ghost World! What a fucking loser, but has good record collection!

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 2:39 PM

All you single stalkers are taking the fun out of the 'missed connection' page on Craigslist. So cut it out.

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 2:49 PM

2:49
want to stalk me on the Missed Connections page sometime? ;)

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 2:51 PM

hey 1:56

its me

what do you think the chances are we will meet like 30 Brooklyn Vegan readers in that spot monday? do we need a better (more private) plan?

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 2:53 PM

2:53
yeah, im thinking that BV readers might be onto us, too. we need a new and improved (private) stalking plan indeed. and i happened to stop by virgin unions square today just to make sure they had Pump Up The Volume, unless i'm mistaken, they didn't seem to have it...

shall we stalk eachother elsewhere?

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 11:08 PM

11:08

Your mom's house???? In Canarsie!

Posted by Anonymous | January 16, 2009 11:23 PM

hey 2:53

its me.

i wasn't sure what else to do, so i took a chance and actually wrote a missed connections post on wonderful craigslist under w4m. please find it and respond to me there. i hope the real you actually finds it first and the 30 BV readers we were worried might show up on monday don't respond to the post instead.

Posted by Anonymous | January 17, 2009 10:58 AM

This just goes to show what the world is coming to - the youth of the United States no longer has any real respect for music anymore. If you download bootlegs or illegal copies or what have you, you're not even HALF the music fan you think you are. Those artists whom you "love" so much don't make any money off free illegal downloads, and before you know it, they'll be gone.
So what's more important to you? The music, or a couple of bucks?

Posted by hachi | January 17, 2009 12:28 PM

This is fuckin sweet!!!:)

Posted by Anonymous | January 17, 2009 3:27 PM

Virgin is NOT a major chain. Virgin and Tower are/were indie chains, my friends. They are/were not appliance stores selling music as loss leaders. These stores did not/do not hurt other indie shops. Quite the opposite, actually.

MUSIC IS ART. Somehow everyone is forgetting this.

Whether you shopped at Virgin Times Square or not, raise your hand if you would rather a Forever 21 be in it's place?????

Posted by music lover | January 20, 2009 5:43 PM

MUSIC IS ART. ART IS AVAILABLE AT:

Virgin Times Square (it's not over till its over)
Virgin Union Square
Bleecker Street
Etherea
Generation Records
Insound.com
J&R
Kims (now at 124 1st Ave.)
Other Music
Rebel Rebel
Sound Fix
Halcyon
Permanent Records

Posted by Gina | January 20, 2009 5:47 PM

did those people meet?

Posted by Anonymous | January 21, 2009 2:05 AM

you mean the stalker girl and stalker boy?
hi. this is stalker girl.
nope, sadly, we did not.
but a good stalker is persistent... ;)

Posted by Anonymous | January 21, 2009 9:00 AM

HI
I got very very very shocked to know that Virgin Megastore in Times square will be soon closed. This is really upsetting to me, I am telling you. this is the place I like the most in Times square and I always take my friends and relatives there to buy CD's and Movies and I feel like crying right now, I can't believe this.Even though they might be out of business, they could close it and open it up again as soon as the economy of the country gets better or they could divide it into 2 departmemts, one part for forever 21 and the other for cd's and movies because people need to buy CD's and movies even though some of the people download stuff through the internet .We already have too many clothing stores in the city and Virgin megastore is actually the main place where you can find the songs and movies that you are looking for, Times square will be monotonous, it's just gonna be full of hotels, restaurants and clothing stores, sex stores.Brooklyn doesn't have no record stores like Virgin megastore.WHY? WHY? and WHY? if I have enough money, I will just buy Virgin Megastore and keep it open.I go there at least once a week, for almost a decade, I fall asleep there and I spent thousands of dollars.All the employees at Virgin Megastore know me very well, they see me often and some of them are my friends. Are you in your right mind?, I can't understand this, come on, I am one of the biggest music lovers on earth and I am about to release my albums also because I wished that my fans could go there and listen to my music also, Come on, Are you crazy? i am telling you, you are gonna miss Virgin because people won't be really interested into buying clothes at your so-called forever 21 because they are too many and thousand of clothing stores in NEW YORK already and Macy's on 34thstreet and so on but we got only one Virgin Megastore in NY just remember that, think harder before you do something crazy like this. I tell you in advance I might visit forever 21 only once to see how it's like but I won't go there as often as I used to go to Virgin through the years and I am serious about what I say.If I need clothes i can just buy it in Brooklyn why do I have to drive or taking the train to go to your so-called forever 21 to buy clothes and I got enough clothes anyway and you know lots of people won't go there for this.There is always a clothing store at the corner. Oh my God I can't believe this, am I dreaming? I hope God don't allow you to close it, it's really really insane to me and I am very and extremely honest to you, believe me. You are truly crazy! this is so sad sad,sad.

Posted by ANDERS PETER | February 18, 2009 11:40 PM

VIRGIN IS NOT A MAJOR CHAIN OR EVEN A CORPORATE MUSIC STORE. AFTER BRANSON SOLD THE COMPANY, QUITE AWHILE AGO, THE STORES BECAME COMPLETELY SELF-CONTAINED ENTITIES, MAKING THEM INDEPENDENT MUSIC STORES. THERE ARE ONLY 5 STORES TOTAL IN THE COUNTRY. THAT'S LESS THAN SOME OF YOUR OTHER INDIE CHAINS LIKE AMOEBA. YOU PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DEATH OF THE AMERICAN RECORD STORE AND ARE ONLY CONTRIBUTING TO THE END OF PHYSICAL PRODUCT IF YOU PRAISE THE CLOSING OF THIS LANDMARK STORE. SCREW YOU ALL. YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO FIND AS MUCH MUSIC IN ONE PLACE. SHOP AT YOUR SNOB STORE SO YOU CAN TELL YOUR FRIENDS ALL ABOUT HOW YOU GOT YOUR ASS TORN OPEN VERBALLY BY A DWEEB IN RAYBANS WHO SPENDS ALL OF HIS TIME ON ALLMUSIC AND WIKIPEDIA JUST TO TELL YOU ONE OBSCURE THING ABOUT THAT FUCKING CD IN YOUR HAND...WHICH HE'S NEVER HEARD IN HIS LIFE.

Posted by UGH! | February 26, 2009 11:33 AM

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