Posted in music on April 15, 2009

Crystal Castles @ MHOW in Brooklyn (more by Ryan Muir)
Crystal Castles

Crystal Castles were supposed to play a show at the Granada Theater in Dallas last night (4/14). According to the band's manager:

"After witnessing the CC soundcheck, the owner of the club was afraid that CC would "blow up the soundsystem" and the show was cancelled, after three hours of arguing."
But according to the club......

A MESSAGE FROM THE GRANADA THEATER:

Let me start with a definition:
Pre-madonna: Pre-madonnas cannot help the way they are because their parents spoiled them and they are still developing their personalities. All a pre-madonna has to do is whine and their parents give them what they want.

Here's how our day went at the Granada on Tue:
Vega (Alan from Ghosthustler) opened for CC in Austin Monday night. At 5pm (3 hrs before doors) we received a call from CC that Vega could not be on the bill.

Vega had been approved by CC in advance for the bill. Early on Tue CC hired a light tech from Austin that is also a DJ to replace Vega.

CC could have communicated with Vega early in the day before they left Austin.

Vega was at the Granada waiting to soundcheck.

CC would not enter the building until Vega was gone from the premise.

Alan was super cool. No pre-madonna.

We've never seen this request. The other co-promoter out of Austin has never seen this kind of request.

CC wining...

CC soundchecked at 6pm instead of at 4pm.

CC didn't "like the sound of their kickdrum".

CC insists that "more woofers be brought in".

Rental places close at 6pm.

It is now 7pm.

Granada has 16 - 18" sub-woofers and 12 - 15" sub-woofers. Also 32 - 8" midranges. Lots of firepower.

Sound check was great.

CC says they would rather cancel the show than possibly not have enough kick drum.

Granada begs that the show goes on.

Granada even offers to dismantle sub woofer stacks and place them in different places in the room.

Granada was willing to do anything to have the show go on.

CC waits until after 10pm to give final cancellation.

The show must go on. Life is all perception. One person sees the day as beautiful, another sees the day as crap.

Why would any band crap on their fans like this?

Insecurity is a cancer. Love yourself. Love your sound guy and the system at the club you are playing.

Play the show. Then listen to your fans. If you don't like the sound at a club never go back to the club.

We've had every big band imaginable in every genre imaginable and had amazing shows.

Nobody has complained about our sound. This is totally out of left field.

The sound at Granada is amazing...and would have been if CC would have just got on stage and played.

Today, Granada is refunding ticket cost and entire service charge to each patron. No one cares for live music more than we do. We've put together an amazing room, staff and sound system.

We'll see you soon fellow music fans.
Mike Schoder and all the Staff at Granada.

This is not the first time Crystal Castles have been at the center of a controversy (and strangely last time also included a mention of 'Madonna').

Crystal Castles are playing the All Points West Festival in Jersey this summer.

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Comments (102)

ha. im on dallas's side. when all these professional people have the same opinion of this band, which is that they are brats, im just more reassured that this band actually are brats. they seem it.

oh, and their music is pretty horrible too.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:22 PM

pretty horrible? more like unlistenably bad. on the bright side, this will all be over once people stop caring in about 3 months.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:27 PM

eh
they always cancel or don't show up or something
they're like the new spank rock with that
you can count on them not playing, but really who would want to see them anymore, i got my full last year.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:28 PM

WHY OH WHY DOES THIS BAND STILL EXIST?????!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:28 PM

Prima donna or Pre-madonna.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:33 PM

shit band who seem like dicks

Posted by moop | April 15, 2009 3:34 PM

Happened to be in Dallas a few weeks ago and caught Robyn Hitchcock at the Grenada. We could use a venue this great in NYC - fantastic sightlines and sound, nice staff, cheap drinks ($18 bottles of wine!). The theater is obviously a labor of love for the people who run it and it's really fucking terrible of Crystal Castles to shit on them like this. Not cool.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:34 PM

Is it intentional to say pre-madonna instead of prima donna?

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:35 PM

I believe the club. Why would they want to shut down the cancel the show for any reason...Beer=Money

Posted by Cheap Bastard | April 15, 2009 3:36 PM

Best band ever.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:38 PM

i read about this earlier on gorilla vs. bear. they've got a better scoop.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:38 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if Vega knew CC's dark secret, and they were afraid he would expose it.

Posted by TEoI | April 15, 2009 3:40 PM

And to do that to Vega reveals them to be true self-centered losers.

Sad cuz I actually like a few CC songs.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:41 PM

Crystal Castles are a bunch of pre-Chers and pre-Elvises. Pricks.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:43 PM

yo crystal castle fails just cuz their representative used:
"if Vegas want to try to create an internet MEME out of this that's fine, whatever."

i mean yeah we all read hipster runoff but to actually use it's lingo in a statement is just plain retarded
unless they're all just sitting back laughing at this. like hahaha fuck yeah we canceled who the fuck cares we'll even release statements that show we don't care

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:48 PM

This band could be the best I've heard.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:49 PM

Why'd he spell it pre-madonna is this letter...but prima donna in the letter posted on gorilla v bear? Did this one get sent out first, and then someone told him that he looked like an illiterate, Jerry Springer watching hick from Texas?

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:49 PM

plus who the fuck listens to techno anymore besides pubescent kids that read spin

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:50 PM

CC rules tih sis such left wing crap I cant beleeive you guys!

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:52 PM

not that that's bad...

yeah that's really messed up that they did that to vega
either them or their roadies were probably all coaked up
and like whoa what's this guitar oh man look at this drum pedal
let's put it all together
woooooo
then wake up the next mmorning like wtf wears the pedal, and blame it on vega
dumb canadian brats, go have fun buying your clothes by the pound now, you'll probably have to by necessity

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:56 PM

pre-tensious

Posted by Cheap Bastard | April 15, 2009 3:57 PM

I wouldn't fuck Alice Glass with your dick

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:58 PM


maybe venues will finally learn to stop booking this band. weren't they no-shows at studio b twice?

and their music's pretty bad.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 3:59 PM

Crystal Cancels

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:03 PM

nah that was spank rock
they played all of their studio b shows i believe
let's make sure to keep the fact straight so that they can be the only ones at fault.but they did skip out on like 2 or 3 dj sets out here, i mean dj sets aren't a big deal. but one was new years and the other was for websterhall, so that's pretty big

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:05 PM

It's prima donna.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:07 PM

I fucking hate crystal castles. They are assholes that are full of themselves and make shit music that they just Kareoke to, and they try to take music from video games without even properly licensing it


Fuckers fuck fuck fuckers. BAN THIS BAND
they don't deserve fans

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:12 PM

from the Gorilla vs. Bear comments section...

"but the place was packed with so many hipsters that no one noticed their existence (for instance, when the DJ before their set played "Waters of Nazareth" by Justice over the nice sound system, over half of the audience thought the band was starting."

that my friends sums up the ultimate pathetic douche audience who pays money for this just awful "music"

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:17 PM

3:48 - um actually, we dont all read hipster runoff, and "meme" is not a term coined by them. kthx

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:21 PM

Even the best sound system in the world couldn't make this band listenable...

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:41 PM

yeah but seriously who uses that
unless your like a psychology and philosophy and social studies major
and even you sound like an idiot
or that you read hipster runoff too much
and anyways you obviously do cuz you know what i'm talking about
4: 21

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:41 PM

plus how in the world would this be a meme
the meme of hating crystal castles
obviously this person is just using it loosely without real context suggesting that they've heard others use way too often without a real grasp on it

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:44 PM

Crystal Stilts!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:48 PM

everyone reads hipster runoff.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:50 PM

Crystal Shitles

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 4:58 PM

mmmmmm...hipster runoff...

::drools::

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:01 PM

plus they keep calling him vegas
he's not a fucking city
VEGA
retardo, what douche nozzles

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:01 PM

i dont think hipster runoff is funny or relevant...at all.

on a related note, it's great that we can unite against the hipster TRASH SCUM of crystal castles. hopefully one day we'll unite against: justice, mstkrasfhasfhaksjfm, simian mobile shit, others.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:06 PM

uhhhhhhhhh please be sensible

ya they seem too have had a bit of troubles, copyright infringement, dickhead moments
they have also made a few good songs, some newer sounds - even if they borrow heavily
why is this getting blown out of proportion?
the only peopel getting upset right now should be the bands adn the fans who waited, not brooklyn music blog.

also dont say u wouldnt fuck alice glass - that doesnt make any sense

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:12 PM

Even though the story about the sound system and the open act ( yay Vega!) is crazy by itself; the one thing I have to say is "plagiarism". The only reason that CC are even on my radar is my love of chiptunes, so I thought I'd share a little knowledge that I've gleaned about them by pointing you in this direction http://is.gd/sD0E . Another thought to go with "plagiarism" is "karma".

Posted by twitch | April 15, 2009 5:14 PM

at least the vivian girls can play instruments...

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:18 PM

What time did Frogger go on?

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:18 PM

5:12 is hipster unoff

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:18 PM

"the only peopel getting upset right now should be the bands adn the fans who waited, not brooklyn music blog."

Sometimes it upsets decent people when other people are rude, egocentric and being overall assholes (e.g., CC). But thanks for dictating who should be, in your ignorant view, getting upset.

And I'd most definitely tea bag alice.

Posted by King Geedorah | April 15, 2009 5:20 PM

I have no idea what MEME means and I'm not afraid to admit it.

Anon

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:21 PM

OMG they totes had an ACT (angry coke tantrum) in TX BRB TTYL I HEART JOURNEY!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:26 PM

5:20, amen.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:30 PM

FIRST!

. . . don't be hatin'.

Posted by Crystal Castle (Porn Star) | April 15, 2009 5:34 PM


bubbles

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:47 PM

i think that's a legitimate concern if you have a shitty sound system. i love crystal castles.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:50 PM

Haha...I used to spell it pre madonna too...back when I was still a spoiled brat, developing my personality.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:53 PM

I'm from Dallas and it sucks balls down there...

but Crstal Castles are no talent primma donnas.

I side with the club.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:55 PM

I don't know what woofers are

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 5:57 PM

I wanna know what love is

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:00 PM

Even with most amazing system it's just a guy with a laptop playing 8 bit Nintendo loops and a girl screaming over it. They stormed off the stage a couple years ago at a show I attended. Never seen anyone do that before or since.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:04 PM

crystal castles are terrible

worse even than the glass candy bullshit that they rip so hard on

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:11 PM

we knocked em dead in dallas
and we didn't pay our dues
we knocked em dead in dallas
they didn't know we were jews

---not the Hold Steady, but almost as good

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:22 PM

"pre-madonna"!! omg I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself. thank you for posting this bv

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:29 PM

"I tried to start a riot, but everybody was too pale and too skinny."

awesome comment over there on the other blog.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:39 PM

I hate crystal castles so much for this. My friends and I get there an hour and a half after the doors opened to see that the line was about 100 yards long. After waiting for about an hour and killing a 12 pack, we find out show is canceled. Great...now I have to find a bush so I can piss. Thanks a bunch crystal castles! It was awesome having my night be completely wasted because you refuse to play unless you get your way! So childish...next time try to be professionals.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 6:57 PM

^^^

next time learn what good music is

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 7:50 PM

Wonder if the soundsystem at Boner roo will be equipped for them.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 8:06 PM

"Zakk Wylde has played it. Obituary has played it. Both System of a Down and Serj Tankian have played it.

There's nothing Crystal Castles could possibly do to hurt our system."

Damn. Game match point.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 8:13 PM

"---not the Hold Steady, but almost as good"

Are you implying that the Dictators are not as good as the Hold Steady. I hope Handsome Dick finds you and beats some sense into you!

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 8:14 PM

violence

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 8:37 PM

"meme" is used in the tech community often, trying broadening your knowledge

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 9:05 PM

""meme" is used in the tech community often, trying broadening your knowledge "

Yes, but the word is misused in the original statement. Besides, I wouldn't say the work is used "often".

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 9:33 PM

Say whatever you want, I'd still totally bang that chick!

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 9:39 PM

Yeah they're so so music, but not much cool shit comes through Dallas. We went and waited til like 1030 to find out it was cancelled. Still waiting on a refund.

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 10:49 PM

The fuck? Who the even cares about this wretched band anymore.. they are obviously a bunch of twatty little kids with a marginally interesting sound who got lucky that some assholes began fluffing them. And no, i wouldnt fuck Alice Glass because i like grown women and not pre pubescent boys with eyeliner. People, get over this band already.

Posted by redpoint | April 15, 2009 10:53 PM

More to the point, this is in Dallas, very NYC centric huh?

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 10:57 PM

>>a bunch of twatty little kids

actually the hooded member in this shite band is pushing 40..for real

he has been in shitty metal bands in Toronto since the early 90's

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Killcheerleaderbandphoto.jpg

(second from the right)

Posted by Anonymous | April 15, 2009 11:26 PM

That dude is 40? Thats fucked in too many levels to type.

Posted by redpoint | April 15, 2009 11:29 PM

lol 4:03

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 12:44 AM

violence

II

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 2:04 AM

Crystal Castles make Dan Deacon seem like Igor fucking Stravinsky. My god, they're awful.

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 2:49 AM

I'm gonna buy me a microkorg, find a mediocre drummer and be the next CC! Yay.

Posted by Philip | April 16, 2009 7:09 AM

wish it wasn't illegal to throw my steaming shit at Crystal Castle's faces next time I see them


Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 7:28 AM

The fact that people are on here even talking about shitty no-talent bands who think they're "trendy" never ceases to amaze me.

Thank god they canceled, maybe they can cancel the rest of their tour and people can do something more constructive, like rally at their local tea party!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 9:02 AM

"the only peopel getting upset right now should be the bands adn the fans who waited, not brooklyn music blog."

You can't even fucking spell, let alone stitch together a coherent thought.

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 9:09 AM

Why is this surprising? Look at them. Who on earth do they think they are? More proof of why they will continue to be an afterthought to those with taste. I can't wait to see the SNL skit here.

Kudos the club owner!

I've worked in a club for the last ten years and have dealt with much larger acts who were making their bones when CC was still nursing, and never have I ever heard someone asking for more woofers to be brought in before doors? I find every bit of the club owners statement believable.

God...yet another case where we need Joe Strummer to come back from the dead and pummel these brats to a pulp.

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 9:36 AM

Vega's statement (complete with link to Gorilla Vs Bear) here:
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/04/vega_responds_t.html

Posted by brooklynvegan | April 16, 2009 10:00 AM

this band is awful! they suck

Posted by HOLYDEATH | April 16, 2009 10:19 AM

"CC can fuck off. I tried to start a riot, but everybody was too pale and too skinny."

:D

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 10:32 AM

"CC can fuck off. I tried to start a riot, but everybody was too pale and too skinny."

:D

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 10:33 AM

well, what do you expect in today's post-Madonna landscape?

Posted by Sacred Absolute Hipster Cow | April 16, 2009 10:38 AM

@WHY OH WHY DOES THIS BAND STILL EXIST?????!!!!!!!

lol, couldn't have said it better.

Posted by Gates | April 16, 2009 12:23 PM

I don't care about crappy bands but I do like laughing at illiterate fuckwads. Pre-madonna?? HAHAHA! Whoever wrote that sucks at life.

Posted by Mr. Green | April 16, 2009 1:09 PM

"CC can fuck off. I tried to start a riot, but everybody was too pale and too skinny."

could start a bitch riot

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 1:57 PM

sounds familiar! i was setting up the bar at the barfly venue in london last year when CC were sound checking and they tried to cancel the show saying the PA was blown by the support band sound checking (kap bambino). everyone got so pissed off. THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PA!! they were so fucking moany and really not nice people. kap bambino blew em away that night too hahaha

Posted by Anonymous | April 16, 2009 4:31 PM

"Ya'll" are some haters, hating on people who've made it. CC has made it, and you know what? Yeah it sounds like they totally fucked up this time. It really does sound like they are some real selfish ass people who let stardom go to their head. But you know what? They made it, have a fan base, and you're angry. You're angry because you sit at your computer all day, reading blogs about bands, aching for the day that BV posts a concert near you of a band that you drool over and other people don't like, not making a difference.

Don't try to flip it on me- I do that after I go outside and make a difference in the world.

Oh by the way fuck you @ Anon 4:21. Don't try to act all pretentious. If you read HRO (which don't lie, you probably do), you'd know about all these CC jokes.

I'm so sick of this hostility like "the music I like is better than your music" or "you're a hipster cause you like _______"...what is up with you, if don't like it then shut up, get a life...and a job.

Posted by JM | April 16, 2009 5:19 PM

I could seriously shit on a turntable, and it would sound way better (not to mention would be a far more original gesture) than anything that "band" could ever come up with. Not to be the internet-shielded craptalker because if I thought maybe she'd have a chance, I'd challenge Alice to a head-to-head lyrical throwdown. I'd even hold up her diary so she could read her own lyrics.

These hacks stole the name, stole artwork, shit on their fans, slapped the faces of other artists actually making their art by stealing samples without credit, and really have only made decent music by riding the coattails of bands that do actually make great music (oh, the remix, how I love to hate thee).

I know there's some dummy out there who buys ever Crystal Castles 7", but I hope their music is ass-raped by the MP3 generation. It's what they deserve.

And on a sidenote: I was propelled to write this because I just returned home from a US tour, and in Dallas, we played Granada. I'd never met anyone there before, but that staff was amazing, the hospitality spot-on, the sound fantastic. Mike is doing a great job there, and it's pretty unfortunate that this band's undeserving stature could tarnish that rep.

And JM: got a life...and a job. A real one that works with more bands than you YouTube in a week. Still read blogs. Still sit at my desk. What? Not angry because of that. I am angry, because I'm just a piece of the minority who still believe in artist integrity and that "making it" doesn't need to be done in such a bullshit self-serving manner. Fucking over 'til you reach the top. Whatever the top is.


Posted by katewbush | April 16, 2009 7:59 PM

And Mr. Green: I don't think that dude is illiterate; I think it's just a shot at the, uh, Crystal Castles/Trevor Brown/Madonna shitstorm that BV mentioned a while back and, um, posted a link to above.

Posted by katewbush | April 16, 2009 8:02 PM

You guys are right, I am a horrible musician! I put soooooo much more time and effort into what color eyeliner I wear and the type of lip gloss I apply before my shows every day because looking trendy make me wayyyy more money than learning how to play a silly instrument nowadays anyhow! Btw Obama rocks!! Liberals are the best! I love touching other boys penises too! And ps- thanks for all the hate mail, you're making me famous! <3

Posted by Ethan Kath | April 16, 2009 9:47 PM

Hey 5:19,

Do you intern at HipsterRunoff? Is that why you're so set on trying to prove that I read it..to uh...validate the "difference that you make in the world"? Right.

Sorry, I don't have time to read all the flotsam in the blog world. Nice try.

Posted by Anonymous | April 17, 2009 11:29 AM

We're not making you famous, Mr. Ethan Kath -- the loads of reports every other month that you guys are complete dickwads are. And really, "famous" & "musician"? Two words I wouldn't really use when describing anything related to Crystal Castles. I'd try to imagine anyone -- except you and your puppet -- listening to your music in 20 years -- or, uh, 3, even, but that's really not possible.

Nice try, dumbass.

Posted by katewbush | April 17, 2009 1:12 PM

I don't think that was really Ethan Kath. 'sayin

Posted by Anonymous | April 17, 2009 1:21 PM

JM needs to get a life.

Posted by Anonymous | April 17, 2009 1:43 PM

"We're not making you famous, Mr. Ethan Kath -- the loads of reports every other month that you guys are complete dickwads are. And really, "famous" & "musician"? Two words I wouldn't really use when describing anything related to Crystal Castles. I'd try to imagine anyone -- except you and your puppet -- listening to your music in 20 years -- or, uh, 3, even, but that's really not possible.

Nice try, dumbass."


Simmer down there twinkletoes. You really seem to have a lot of pent-up anger and frustration inside you. Could it be that your jealous of me and my success as an artist? =) I mean, if I was a failed musician like you and had to work a shitty office job every day I would probably hate myself too. I'd probably spend a lot of time on the internet posting rants like yours above, ones clearly directed towards the people I would be jealous of. Anyways have a nice day hater =) appreciate you bumping this thread about meeeee. woooo!

<3

Posted by Ethan Kath | April 17, 2009 9:16 PM

SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Posted by Anonymous | April 17, 2009 9:29 PM

Hehe, whether you are you or not, you should know my "shitty office job" is one where I've actually worked with your music. It's like an episode of Law & Order, oh shit! And I'm hardly a "failed musician". I'm on the other side.

Posted by katewbush | April 21, 2009 1:34 PM

sound guys suck ass. its the truth. usually incompetent like most people and their jobs. i do agree that no one should drop out on their fans like that. very lame. play with what you got.

Posted by lou | September 9, 2009 10:45 AM

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