WAVVES meltdown @ Primavera Sound Festival last night

Ha! Good story, and nice of Pitchfork to post it when Wavves was playing on their curated stage.

Let the backlash begin...

MORTAL KOMBAAAT!!!

guy sounds like a total douche. how he's getting all this hype is beyond me.

Yea, ecstasy is awesome.

There is not a more perfect band than Wavves for this to happen to.

Having Wavves headline a stage at a major festival is a huge error of judgment. Presumably Pitchfork's remit for this festival is to choose up-and-coming bands, but they've lost the ability to discern genuine talent from fly-by-night chancers.

Also, I have a feeling that Pitchfork is having financial difficulties. Look at the amount of recycled/old material on Pitchfork.tv, the slowdown in the amount of interviews on the site, and a lot of content aggregated from elsewhere. They're definitely going through a bad patch.

really, semi red neck cali is muuuuch better than
the most progresive, fun-lovin country in the world. just another amerinazi. send him to serve
in iraq.

can there be blog dedicated just to band meltdowns, gossip, and bicker.....but all one sided...not comments section.....miss TV...miss VH1

I gotta see this shit..Is there any video footage of this?

Indie scene needs more cowbell... and a perez hilton-like blog!

Imagine all the time one could spend amusing oneself with such things.

Because of this story, I noticed Pitchfork has a news tag called "Gossip", but this is rarely gossip. They were there and witnessed it first hand... and twittered about it. I read it last night.

mehvves

happy it didnt take longer for everyone to realize this band sucks

"Also, I have a feeling that Pitchfork is having financial difficulties."

I don't know. It's possible, but considering the money they make from ads and the fact that they don't have to actually print anything, I doubt it.

I'm glad Europe sees through this rich kid poser. Now if only American sheep hipsters would do the same.

PriMEHvera MEHstival MEHltdown

top 5 bands you'd like to see meltdown go!

psych horseshit is prolly super stoked

The Dodos >>>>>>>> Wavves

girl talk (laptop explosion?)
passion pit
crystal castles
vivian girls
band of horses

this is what happens when you take a little no talent fuck with 6 months experience and give him
a opportunity that he did not pay his dues for

total fail

Top 5 bands I'd love to see have a meltdown:

1 Vampire Weekend
2 Grizzly Bear
3 Girl Talk
4 MGMT
5 The National

Where is Hot Chip?

Pitchfork hype = fans who are pathetic robots who can't seem to figure out what is good music vs. you know, total absolute shit

fuck hype.. what do you expect? impress me with professionalism.

got a bunch of nightcrawlers in the fridge waiting to be eaten by a 5 pound largemouth this weekend

these comments are disappointing. Something actually funny happens to a band and everybody stops being funny. You loose bv readers.

excellent work, nathan waves

Gangsta!

i'm having a meltdown in my sphincter

Silly little twat - Little bitch can't handle the road. The hype machine has run out of fuel.

he's a brat, always was, always will be

@3:54 Ugh, horrible paying dues argument. I'm not a Wavves fan, but I also don't believe you have to troll through endless shitty venues to give your music validity.

this would never happen to TBA

i've seen him live/booked him and he is an absolute CHILD. whoever thought it was good idea to have him headline was out of their minds. how a show goes depends entirely on whether he had his kid's meal before the show or some other arbitrary thing. he's the least professional and just generally bratty musician out right now. and it's not even like he's an awful person,he's actually kind of shy/nice when he's not on performing, he's just not responsible or grateful enough to be touring as much as he does. this breakdown was inevitable.I feel sorry for ryan though, sweet kid.

Where are all the Animal Collective haters now?

3:38
how in the world is europe seeing through his "act" they were there to see him and even started "pogoing" along to a bad version of so bored when he tried to play it

they just witnessed a meltdown
and meltdown or no meltdown i still say that i love the wavves albums
and holy fuck i hope i can see a melt down in bowery
this is so awesome, but word hope the band is ok
hopefully just too much dope that night or something

"Impress me with professionalism"

Pathetic

i wanna see telepath meltdown

sounds like nathan has been watching "dig!" on hulu recently.

".miss TV...miss VH1"

I miss the days when really the only comments on things you had to deal with were the close knit group of friends you hung with. Maybe the occasional random being as well. Still, it is hilarious to see how you all go into a frenzy when someones comment does not jibe with what you think. "Ooh wavves suck" "No they are great" Grizzly Bear stinks" "Grizzly Bear is awesome" "Pitchfork said this and rated this like this" Lord almighty isn't it enough for you to know you are right and the ones who disagree with you are just know nothings? Must you get all worked up about what some idiot stranger thinks?

The state of commentary today is in a sad shape.

That being said:
Wavves are fun
Grizzly Bear makes beautiful music
Pitchfork is worthless
Built to Spill at Maxwells will be anything but boring
Tortoise playing for free on Sunday in the beautiful Winter Garden is so much better then paying to see them at Bell House tomorrow
That Girl Talk show last night looked like a lame hipster douchebag fest
Meh
Time for Daft Punk?
Tom Yaps is gonna be there
TBA
Todd P sucks and throws parties at places that are fire hazards
Dan Deacon blows
Terminal 5 is a shithole

I think i covered everything for today and the usual mainstays

"how in the world is europe seeing through his "act" they were there to see him and even started "pogoing" along to a bad version of so bored when he tried to play it"

i know wavves fans are illiterate, but maybe you could have a friend read you the article

Thanks, Tago Mago. You may climb down from that high horse now.

you left out: tago mago is a long winded moron with shitforbrains opinions, and ineloquent on top of it

what a douche.

i just lost my job
but fuck it
i'm buying a burrito from chipotle
and then a wavves ticket
once i get off from my last day

4:38
i read the article that's why i know that the fans stuck around even when he was doing a sucky show, and bobbed around to a bad version of so bored.
but then again i'm a wavves fan so yeah i probably just halucinated that

FTW?!

"Thanks, Tago Mago. You may climb down from that high horse now."

"you left out: tago mago is a long winded moron with shitforbrains opinions, and ineloquent on top of it"

"what a douche."

Hah, like taking candy from a baby and shooting fish in a barrel. Thanks you 3 for illustrating my point completely.

you forgot one 437

you don't have to deal with this if you dont come here, thmehkyou

"There is not a more perfect band than Wavves for this to happen to."

Maybe Crystal Stilts...but yeah, WAVVES is way up on the list.

brooklyn vegan anonymous commenting might be the worst thing to ever happen to the new york scene, and to indie music in general.

this anonymous commenting bullshit has legitimized what is essentially scrawling innuendos and slurs on the walls of bathroom stalls.

it shouldn't be given any more credence than bathroom graffiti, but unfortunately idiots like yourselves buy into what's said here.

How can we be more like you, Tago? Teach us! Teach us!

wait tago mago, you had a point?

... why is there so much wavves hate, i just don't understand it. did he steal and then kill you guys puppy? do you ppl even listen to music or do you just rack up all a bands worth buy a picture a blog shows and what they liken their sound to and how fast ppl start to like them. you kids are fucked

"brooklyn vegan anonymous commenting might be the worst thing to ever happen to the new york scene, and to indie music in general."

I'd go one step further and say that brooklyn vegan anonymous commenting is the worst thing to happen to anything, ever. Truly these are End Times.

Wavves Schmavves

ban the anonymous comments.

you should have to log in with a valid email address.

period.

Meltdown Yo:

1. Telepathe
2. Wavves...err, whoops. I mean...Vivian Girls
3. Telepathe
4. Telepathe
5. Polyphonic Spree

4:47 man you are so right
i wish i didn't have a job so i can go outside and enjoy my life and not be soooo bored as to read and comment on blogs all day. it fucking kills me.
oh shit i don't have a job now! i'm fucking free!

"... why is there so much wavves hate"

Jealousy.

We all have a bad day at work now and then. WAVVES RULES.

Phil Spector going to the old grey bar hotel for 19 years.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090529/ap_on_re_us/us_phil_spector

i feel kinda bad for calling him out at 4:30.it's true, not everyone is fit to be away from home for months at a time, and performing is really stressful rather than fun for some people. i feel like he's got a lot of people telling him what to do and what is best and what he should be grateful for (i even did it up there where i said he was ungrateful) when i guess you should be able to decide what's best for you. I like his music a lot, but maybe he should just say fuck you record label/promoter i'm taking a break.
people have meltdowns over less stressful things. poor wavves. he's talented, he should slow down and figure out what he wants before he burns out.

I am a writer from Pitchfork

OH MY GOD PEOPLE ARE SAYING THINGS ABOUT THINGS... ON THE INTERNET!

nathan's on a plane back home fyi. european tour = canceled. GOD BLESS RYAN ULSH.

btw if you really are a writer from pitchfork, your publication has done more to destroy the state of "commentary" than some hardly read, off the wall blog comments section ever will.

4:47: "brooklyn vegan anonymous commenting might be the worst thing to ever happen to the new york scene, and to indie music in general."

Says the anonymous commenter! lolzz

this is not the first meltdown, just the first meltdown at a huge festival. this was waiting to happen. dude's an ingrateful prick plain and simple. there are some people who can handle succes and some who can't. some who deserve and some who don't. it doesnt always show this quick but I guarantee there are more of these stories to come. this could be the end of wavves. maybe he uses it change his attitude and be a little more grateful for what he's got. how you deal with adversity (sound problems headlining sold out festival, playing to less people than you hoped for, crowd reaction not as anticipated) goes a long way towards showing what kind of person you are. sure everyone has bad days but this is starting to add up and when everyone has bad days, their bandmates dont pour beer on them. will wavves eat humble pie, issue a funny apology and move on with the tour or will he take his ball and go home to the people sucking his dick telling him fuck those european douches.

i'd say it's definitely the best thing to happen .. in no other forum would bands, label execs, competing bloggers, promoters, bookers, booking agents, journalists, fans, and general A-holes all be able to talk shit about each other in harmony. it's actually quite amazing and why i and so many of my peers / friends / coworkers keep coming back.

dont ever stop doing this dave! peace to brooklyn vegan forever!
wavves sucks forever. so does telepathe, but i'd do the cute one.

i definitely agree with 6:22. keep it going, BV. the people like tago mago who bitch about comments here are as much a trope as any of the other things he listed. people turn into fascists when bands they like (their friends?) get their just desserts and aren't given the blowjob they get from the traditional music press--pitchfork included.

never heard of this band

I thought this was a food blog.

between this clown and Alice Glass I truly hate this generation of "musicians"

asshole brats..thanks MySpace generation

you know there was a time in "indie" music where you really had to perfect your craft, and if you were lucky to build a small fan base it would take 5-10 years. People appreciated true talents like Robert Pollard who worked at his craft for 20 years before he ever got a chance to take a stage at a Euro festival. These days the "here today gone later today" hype is giving a platform for just total fucking no talents.

leonard cohen concert was really good

i promise i am not his FRIEND. just like good music.

7:00 was that the no wave movement? perfecting the craft?

people hate this guy because he came out of nowhere and was successful. they wish it them them.

also, the internet and immediate hype and downloading means that blowing up is an out of control beast that can eat your soul.

hahahahahahaha! wavves of meltdowns to come!

between this clown and Alice Glass I truly hate this generation of "musicians"

asshole brats..thanks MySpace generation

Wake up from your absurd fantasy land self important world there bands such as Wavves.
In the past bands in independent music if you wanna call it that were much more humble.
People playing in Jazz and blues bands from 30 40 years ago still playing dont get the b.s. attitude of these little kids. All this crap talking would most likely never occur face to face obviously at local shows.

*These days the "here today gone later today" hype is giving a platform for just total fucking no talents.
Very true.

Anyone got any video of this meltdown?

well you gotta give it up to his US and Euro booking agents - they are the ones that ACTUALLY made it happen for him.

Sad. prolly just a cool guy that couldnt handle it. He made good noise pop, fun music. But was actually a talented musician, I thought. Im by no means a wavves lover, but am not one of the wavves bashers. I just think that before people pass judgement on this guys talent and character that they should
A) Go to this link and listen to these acoustic songs.
http://www.wvkr.org/2009/02/wavves-wvkr-set/
This shows what Nathan could(ve) be(en).
B) remember that everyone has meltdowns and its unfortunate. Sure Nathan was overhyped, im sure he'll even say that. But that wasnt his fault. unless you want to blame it on his association with the blogworthy Woodsist records, or his catchy/pop tunes. But obviously this guy couldnt handle what he was being put through, and i kinda think the songs from the link show that. To The Dregs acoustic is so eery.. and painful. at least thats what i make of it.
Seriously, listen to the linked songs before you pass judgement. they are completely different from his recorded and live stuff. if you don't, then you are ignorant to his abilities.
and remember, bashing on Wavves makes you no better then the 20 hour news cycle that followed Britney around. And Britney couldnt even make her own fucking songs, let alone sing. If you dont dig it, whatevs. If you dig it, thats cool. But if you're just gonna spew shit from your mouth about how much they "suxx" and talk like Carles to be 'relevant' and 'ironic', then you're an idiot.
and dont get me wrong, i enjoy HRO.

off the soapbox..

BrooklynVegan anonymous commenting is the best thing ever and has phenomenal sound.

I don't even come to this site to read the content anymore, I come solely for the comments. This place is way more entertaining than Stereogum or Pitchfork. I hope the Anonymous comments continue. They make the work day go by faster.

It says more about the lame booking agents who jump on anything that is hyped by sad 30-something uneducated music "writers" online because they see $$$$. Thinking an act that played a basement show in San Diego in March can and should be worthy of a two month European tour in May is pathetic...really that's the climate of music these days people. I thought it couldn't get any worse than Bright Eyes and Arcade Fire five years ago...it's only getting worse.

is it just me or does the article make it sound like nathan and ryan are dating? which would be cool with me but its totally written like the Big Fight in a romance novel.

Hmm...seems like he WAS on ecstasy and probably wasted. I really doubt he suddenly had a random meltdown on his own, being as this leg of the tour just started. Some of you people are completely clueless retards. Just keep shooting your bullshit opinions here and pretend your opinions are funny/witty/accurate. If you didn't give a shit about Wavves you wouldn't be here.

http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/episode/1924-wavves/1

*I thought it couldn't get any worse than Bright Eyes and Arcade Fire five years ago...it's only getting worse.
Yes I wonder how artificial it can get. Maybe it will be that the Crystal Antler Wavvves Bagoda are just made out of the same fake bakery of sound as Dolly Madison snack cakes that rot your insides, but last forever on the shelf like the Bay City Rollers in the hearts of the kids. Nah, the Bay City Rollers were better.
I get the feeling said band and others like them have never worked a day in their life, not even the artificial flower factory, factory.

8:58 & 9:14

i triple that!

>>http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/episode/1924-wavves/1

uughhh...that really sums up everything doesn't it?

within the first minute we get to witness:

- smug little shits eating pizza
- performing a horrible song to an audience of 8
- a drummer playing a kit with a "Guitar Center" logo on the bass drum
- getting sized up for a pair of free Levi's by a tranny

Welcome to the future of music

this is also amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nphKRIfEt0

the hell?

that dood has no clue who Bun B much less UGK are
love it!
LOVE IT!!!!

why didnt anyone say that they wish Animal collective to have a meltdown

that would be the greatest

huh. when i talked to him at market hotel, he was a really nice dude. ah well.

and it seems like brooklynvegan commenting system is having a meltdown itself these days... *sigh*.

To all the people who think that a lot of commentors are people in the music industry - booking agents, managers, label employees, etc - I seriously doubt this is true. The level of understanding as to how the industry works and which jobs are responsible for what is very shallow here, generally speaking. I'm sure that there are industry people who do post (like me), but for the most part, people chiming in about the music industry seem like armchair quarterbacks or alarmists and shit-stirrers.

Ruining music: no. Entertaining: yes. Annoying: usually. Wavves: this is a hilarious and sorta sad episode that I'm glad was shared. I've never hung out with the guy, probably never will, am in no position to call him an 'asshole.' This just seems like a frustrating night.

thanks for the informative post, douchebag.

pitchfork's live tweets from the audience as this all went down were pretty fucking priceless, not gonna lie.

Record companies and blogs alike are so desperate to be the ones responsible for discovering The Next Big Thing(tm) that pretty much any group of hafwits can get hyped up these days, regardless of talent, ability, record sales, gigs played, etc. It's the "throwing crap at a wall and seeing what sticks" method of music creation.

Fuck...I wouldn't be surprised if whomever is running that TBA mock Myspace page starts getting offered gigs based solely on the two songs they have on their site and the amount of people talking about them in the comments here on BrooklynVegan. And frankly, their mock band probably has more talent and wherewithal then bands like WAVVES, because at least TBA seems to know how the system works.

link please 1:32

YAY, ANOTHER ARTICLE ON A SHITTY TALENTLESS BUNCH OF FUCKTARD DEMOCRAT "MUSICIANS" ON BROOKLYN VEGAN!!!!

"brooklyn vegan anonymous commenting might be the worst thing to ever happen to the new york scene, and to indie music in general.

this anonymous commenting bullshit has legitimized what is essentially scrawling innuendos and slurs on the walls of bathroom stalls.

it shouldn't be given any more credence than bathroom graffiti, but unfortunately idiots like yourselves buy into what's said here."

Oh cry me a fucking river! God forbid people have an opinion on something they don't like. In an industry like music if you don't have the talent and the popularity to back it up you're gonna get called out for it. In fact, I wish the indie scene was more like the hip hop scene, where if your shit's weak then the people at the top of the food chain will call you out for it and singlehandedly end your career. People like 50 Cent and Eminem don't call it unfair, they call it Natural Selection. If you can't take the heat get the fuck out the kitchen!!

God forbid some of you morons actually go out and have a life. Besides spending all night proving that tago mago person right, you also amped it up a notch. Clearly, another problem with the internet/blog/commentary world has been the unfortunate exposure of the rampant stupidity of much of this society.

http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/episode/1924-wavves/1

uughhh...that really sums up everything doesn't it?

Posted by Anonymous | May 29, 2009 9:35 PM

Wow...I don't even WANT to dislike these two but after seeing this...yikes!

9:42

i lol'd

i like the guy claiming that spain is the most progressive nation in the world. they are so progressive that they make monkey noises at soccer games whenever a black player touches the ball. and they progressively sell chocolate covered peanuts with this little guy.

http://www.elperiodicomediterraneo.com/noticias/noticia.asp?pkid=40236

an improvement from what it once was, as that left hand used to have a spear in it. they sure do love fun though.

Bands I want to see have a meltdown?

Hmmm, I don't know, let's just say it already happened lol.

I don't understand how Wavves is so huge? Ok, the debate is in reality not many people know them, but in the online music community blog type thingy they definitely are. I don't know why Pitchfork nominated them in the best of list. I was hoping on liking it because of what Pitchfork says and what the band sounds like. To me the sound is either you love them or you hate them. Personally Wavves sounds like shit meld together. The music is too distorted and his voice is fucking annoying. I'm glad he had a meltdown, it shows he's a spoiled brat and an asshole too. Good, goodbye for your career kid.

"Yea, let's have a kid who puts shit together on a computer a headliner for our festival" - Pitchfork.

^^^

that was me earlier... not to sound harsh or anything, the kid just does what he does. His music may not be my cup of tea and a lot others and I understand his music was meant to be made as a bedroom project.

But still I remain, he acted like a spoiled brat and I don't understand what's so great about this band.

garage experiment- why live?

Really more of a MEHltdown, right you guys?

http://ghostramp.blogspot.com/2009/05/primaveraeurope.html

"Really more of a MEHltdown, right you guys?

http://ghostramp.blogspot.com/2009/05/primaveraeurope.html"

he deleted his post

^^^ Bahleeted, but Google Cache to the rescue:

"I think in the back of my head I knew I wasn't exactly mentally healthy enough to continue to tour the way I have been since February. Honest truth is this has all happened so fast and I feel like the weight of it has been building for months now with what seems like a never ending touring and press schedule which includes absolutely zero time to myself. I'm sorry to everyone who has put effort into this and to everyone who supported me. Mixing ecstasy valium and xanax before having to play in front of thousands of people was one of the more poor decisions I've made(duh) and I realize my drinking has been a problem now for a good period of time. Nothing else I can do but apologize to everyone that has been affected by my poor decision making. I made a mistake. Not the first mistake I've made and it for sure wont be the last. I'm human. Don't know why I chose the biggest platform I could imagine to lose my shit, but that's life. You live and you learn."

total lameass loser...your songs suck dude, get over yourself

Way to moderate comments there, BV. :)

Viral marketing 4 new album WAVVVVES?!

(Someday, we will live in a post-WAVVVVES internet)

i saw wavves at vassar and nathan shit his pants. i'm not kidding.

the poor baby's apology:

http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/35735289.html

who cares!?
Get stoned make shitty records see how far it takes you
punk rock

I like this kids music, i met him once and he was nice, obviously not a power duo as far as a live act but other than that does it matter? if everything fell in your lap at once you'd probably do a lot of drugs, have a drinking problem and meltdown as well.

pitchfork is not the devil also
jesus christ it's there for people like you who are obsessed with music

you people might as well be just as ungrateful as you say this nathan kid is

shut up already

@ 9:58
um dude does know who busy B is
he has a blog where all he talks about is rap albums, kid knows his stuff pretty well too

i feel like 7:27 is part of the wavves party

did you listen on fmu, this fest was a piss fest (as in overwhelming odor of urine wafting through the air), and people were passing out left and right. this shit was fucken hilarious.

can't believe the bowery show isn't sold out

is it cuz of the ridiculous price?
so tired of the 15 dollar fares

When all is said and done, good for him for throwing that shoe back in the crowd.

I've got video of this. Should be up soon.

^ thanks for yet another useless post

^ yet you'll still watch it

wavvvvvvves

the old stand-by reason fanboys give to explain why people hate the bands they like is, jealousy. this does not hold any water. i have no jealousy toward wavvvvvvves. they just suck.

first nathan williams, then susan boyle

Thought this was a food blog.

"I've got video of this. Should be up soon."

HEY GUESS WHAT, NOBODY FUCKING CARES BUDDY!!!!

Hey decoloresfilm, go spam your fucking amateur movies that you probably make with a lame Apple product and edit in iMovie on some community who actually gives a shit. It would be pretty lame of you to bring attention to yourself by riding off the coattails of musicians with actual talent, but nowhere near as lame as trying to ride off the coattails of a band as shitty as Wavves. Beat it!

Anonymous posting is the best thing about this site. Thank fucking god that at least one aspect of the "indie" music industry RESEMBLES a democracy. If the listening public has to continue to get bludgeoned with the nihilistic crap rap of the ruling class, at the very least, they should be allowed to publicly complain about it. The saddest thing about the seemingly non-stop flurry of overhyped rich kids from the suburbs in music these days is the fact that there are so fucking many brilliant artists out there who get pushed aside in favor of these douchebags.

You know, it's just not fair, and not right, and I'm elated that the internet provides a place for the rest of us to point this out.

P.S., about "kids knowing their shit". Any 20 year old can grow and encyclopedic knowledge of any subgenre of music now, thanks to the internet. Knowing a lot about music and pop culture in general is no longer any sort of accomplishment in and of itself, in this age.

2:27

when wasn't american indie rock about rich kids from the suburbs?

2:27- there is SOME truth in that. But actually, I think it used to be a little more middle-class.

2:41 - you can count the exceptions on your two hands.

bullshit.

most indie rockers grew up middle class, not rich. Nathan Williams didn't grow up rich.

get off of your fucking high horse 6/5 2:27.

talent is in the eye of the beholder, you self-victimizing whiner.

Wavves has got talent *and* was overexposed. Yes, you can have both, and too much of the second can destroy the 1st.

But don't come crying me a fucking river about how this kid isn't good and your own music is unappreciated. He is fucking good. There are several excellent songs on both of Wavves' records, and your own music is most likely not "appreciated" enough because you suck and have a shitty, finger-pointing attitude.

"You know, it's just not fair, and not right, and I'm elated that the internet provides a place for the rest of us to point this out."

Need a Kleenex to wipe those crocodile tears away? You big baby you.

I didn't say I was a musician. I'm content with my lot in life. This is not coming from a place of personal bitterness. I'm bitter for everyone else.

Does he have talent? Maybe. So he's written some excellent songs. So what? Look, I think the Wavves album is, production-wise, very nice. It's not terrible. But it's merely a triumph of aesthetics, not songwriting, which is always what separates "now" music from music people will still be listening to in 20 years.

I just wish people would try harder instead of just having things handed to them and acting like lazy, entitled ingrates. But more and more, it seems that's what this generation (of middle to upper class white people) is all about. I don't know why people keep on defending the utter lack of meritocracy in the world. It's pathological behavior. There is no defending the situation.

Also, do you guys know what "crocodile tears" means?

Also, I just remembered how very subjective all of this is.

"production-wise, very nice"? it's intentionally lowfi. that's the first thing anyone would notice if they listened to it.

wheich leads me to believe that...

you've never even heard this guy's music.

why write long outraged paragraphs about bullshit if you're never heard the music you're talking about?

"I didn't say I was a musician. I'm content with my lot in life. This is not coming from a place of personal bitterness. I'm bitter for everyone else."

You big baby you.

I prefer lofi production. You're assuming too much about me. I like the way the record sounds. Although it sounds like it was recorded on garageband or logic using a lot of tracks put through the guitar amp plugin. Which is a cool sound.

Still, I don't think the songs are that great.

Please try harder.

go to bed. you're not making any sense and you sound cranky

Cool graphics design here. Real nice.

----Mesa Boogie Shop is just simply the best. No question about it.