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Williamsburg Walks - Bedford Ave, June 6, 2009 (aloha orangeneko)
Williamsburg Walks

"Famed for its concentration of heavily subsidized 20-something residents -- also nicknamed trust-funders or trustafarians -- Williamsburg is showing signs of trouble. Parents whose money helped fuel one of the city's most radical gentrifications in recent years have stopped buying their children new luxury condos, subsidizing rents and providing cash to spend at Bedford Avenue's boutiques and coffee houses." [NY Times] (thx Hiro)

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Comments (112)

"In some cases, applicants have stormed out of the market after hearing the job requirements.

“They say, ‘You want me to work eight hours?’ ” Mr. Illades said. “There is a bubble bursting.”"


muhahahaha

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 11:51 AM

Trustafarians! lol! that SHREDS!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 11:51 AM

haha

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 11:52 AM

stop taking unpaid internships and calling it a "career"

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:03 PM

fuck yes.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:04 PM

I think the closing of McCarren Park Pool is highly symbolic of the state of this once interesting and appetizing neighborhood.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:06 PM

this is both funny and sad at the same time. times are tough.

Posted by irony | June 8, 2009 12:11 PM

Oh the humanity!

The day when people in Williamsburg can no longer adequately fulfill their coke habits, is a sad day indeed.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:11 PM

This is really hilarious. Fucking pay your own rent or live at home until you can douche bags.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:11 PM

"Jah Trustafari"

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:13 PM

haha. too funny.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:14 PM

I hope nobody feels sorry for these people.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:16 PM

Mostly just funny. I'm too in favor of class warfare not to enjoy the schadenfreude.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:18 PM

My first "meh"

Tough times aren't that bad if you have your shit together and a healthy grip on reality and a more cost efficient definition of the word happiness... trustifarians will just go through some "growing pains" (kicking and screaming I presume)

Posted by Burg | June 8, 2009 12:19 PM

This just shows what a bunch of pathetic losers who have no idea how life really is or is about live here just to say they live here...lame...grow the fuck up and make your own way.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:19 PM

"“It takes the wind out of you if you’re not the independent, self-reliant artist you claim to be,” she said, “if you’re just daddy’s little girl.”

- You mean it sucks when people find out your are a fake and a phony? Own up to it. Say "my parents worked hard to be able to provide for me and now I'm taking advantage of that to pursue my passions rather than work some soul sucking day job", or just refuse your parents' help all together.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:20 PM

self sufficiency is the new black.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:38 PM

Back to Ohio - BEGONE!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:43 PM

Sucks that parents are being so cheap.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:45 PM

perfect article for this shitstarting anonymous whiny bitch board

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:49 PM

^ coming from hypocrite who posts under anonymous....how about when your on your way out of williamsburg on your way back to middle america, you take a leap of the brooklyn bridge.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:52 PM

i love this site

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:55 PM

"this is both funny and sad at the same time. times are tough."
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times were also tough for those families and people who lived in the williamsburg before it became famous to people who don't even live in nyc.
i could give two shits about any problem anyone is having with keeping up their rent or whatever.
deal with it. move on. move to other neighborhoods.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:04 PM

greatest article ever...

I hope the same happens in the LES.

Posted by Stinky | June 8, 2009 1:04 PM

Maybe the hipster grifter wasn't doing a bad thing after all...

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:11 PM

"stop taking unpaid internships and calling it a career"

HA!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:16 PM

maybe now some of us non-trustafari can afford apts in nyc again once after all the lemmings evacuate.

Posted by p-nut | June 8, 2009 1:16 PM

*make that "once again"

Posted by p-nut | June 8, 2009 1:17 PM

move to bushwick! it's a lot cheaper and way more hipster than williamsburg is nowadays. williamsburg is so 2003.

Posted by hipster poseur | June 8, 2009 1:19 PM

hm.... times are tough for ppl hard working wall streeters too.. or practically anyone working in the manufacturing industry... fuck who needs architects... frankly that article is dumb. its a fucking recession! you dimwit ... shit load of ppl dont have jobs anymore no shit they wont buy condos... i love it how ppl assume that just b/c they were lucky enough to hold on to their job that everyone around them is not smart or cant plan ahead... dude think about all the college grads with 0 work experience...

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:21 PM

"But parental help was obvious in the intersection of residents with low-paying jobs and $3,000-a-month apartments."

ohhhhh, that's how they do it!!! i thought they were all low profile dope dealers and call girls.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:23 PM

does this mean the end of brooklynvegan?

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:25 PM

Welcome Back Old New York.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:30 PM

i bet 65% of the comments come from kids still in school

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:41 PM

I can attest my trust fund folded in half this year. Oi.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:46 PM

yet the article couldn't FIND any

weird.

but not as weird as the "freelancers are screwed" one, where they could only find one yoga teacher and one SAT tutor.

what crap reporting. I guess the NYT isn't paying what it used to.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:52 PM

"williamsburg is so 2003."

Williamsburg was over long before 2003.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:52 PM

being in your late 20s and having never had a job is probably the most mind-boggling thing i've ever heard. it's weird to meet 21 year olds who have never had a paying job.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:54 PM

yes "trustafarian" sure is a fresh, original catchphrase. I predict it catches on, becomes a popular campus joke for "in the know" kids, and eventually gets used on Gossip Girl when Blair taunts Serena for going to Brown.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 1:54 PM

"does this mean the end of brooklynvegan?"

hilarious...

i love the fact that probably half of the comments in this thread are from peeps who have an inheritence of some sort.....

nothing wrong with parents wanting the best for their kids. def something wrong with cokehead slackers with narrow minded attitudes and a sense of entitlement...

cant judge someone by where they come from, only by where they take it....

Posted by isla | June 8, 2009 1:55 PM

old guy above me

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:01 PM


i think the wavves meltdown (wavves is a trustafarian idol) signals the ending of an era for upper middle class indie kids. time to become real adults. i know, i don't want to either.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:09 PM

i think the 'go back to middle america' comment is ignorant. That statement is rife with intolerance-what kind of country do you want to live in?

Shame on you



Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:10 PM

The Times has been writing a slew of these "sympathy" pieces for the past few months about the trials, tribulations and struggles of the wealthy in accordance with the economy. It's genius idea of how to improve your readership by publishing articles a minority can relate to. I guess the editor is too big sucking Bilderberg dicks all day long to even give a shit about circulation.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:11 PM

good!!....damn hipsters!!....get a job, stop living of ,ommy and daddy

Posted by Brian | June 8, 2009 2:17 PM

still saying "trustafarian" is even funnier than still saying "hipster"

rock on, new york tiMEHs!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:18 PM

What time does Daft Punk go on welfare?

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:28 PM

karma will take its revenge on the trust fund kids and their parents, when the $750,000 condo is worth $400,000 after the market correction.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:30 PM

1:54 I totally agree with you. I think it is wierd when people go to college not having jobs, nevermind these people who have been out of college for years and still don't work.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:36 PM

hey, now, back off on the middle america put-downs ya hipster yankees!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:47 PM

The problem the "Trustafarians" make is buying into the idea that "green" means eco-friendly.

It means CASH, sillies....now go earn you some! You'll be better off in the long run.

Posted by Todd Shaw | June 8, 2009 2:48 PM

yeah but if you're an artist than your art is your work.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:51 PM

The highest art is the art of survival on your own $.

Can't sell that that painting? Time to get used to saying, "you want fries with that?" until you can.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:57 PM

everyone knows everything... maybe someone should start getting paid for all this advice

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 2:59 PM

it's really easy to hate these rich kids when they are 21 and 22 and not doing anything with their lives but drinking at house parties and going to brunch at enid's and maybe interning at a designer's for two days a week.

but in five years' time, when those kids have their own clothing line, or their own gallery show, or their first record out, you'll all be blogging about their creativity and brilliance, and you'll forget that all that creativity and brilliance was fostered by years of parental support.

Posted by bd | June 8, 2009 3:21 PM

2:59 I like where you're going with this. How about a BV commenter advice column?

BV will post questions or dilemmas, and us, the all knowing and infinitely wise BV commenters will respond.

Come on, who wouldn't want advice from a bunch of annonymous, obnoxious assholes.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:23 PM

Parental support? baahahahahahahah!

parasites and parasite enablers.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:27 PM

"but in five years' time, when those kids have their own clothing line, or their own gallery show, or their first record out, you'll all be blogging about their creativity and brilliance, and you'll forget that all that creativity and brilliance was fostered by years of parental support."

---spot on, and that's the most ridiculous part of it all. imagine how much would be created if we could all do that!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:29 PM

pussies.


Posted by Janitor Cobain | June 8, 2009 3:33 PM

I think we need a government bailout program to allow parents to take out low-interest home equity loans to keep the wheels greased.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:36 PM

"but in five years' time, when those kids have their own clothing line, or their own gallery show, or their first record out, you'll all be blogging about their creativity and brilliance, and you'll forget that all that creativity and brilliance was fostered by years of parental support."

People don't forget that The Strokes are trust fund kids. The thing is, maybe 5% of them will actually make something of this time. Most of them will just fuck around until they get cut off by the folks and are forced to get a real job.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:40 PM

The Strokes exemplify why parent-funded music careers sucks the most. That band is pure, rip off shite.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:43 PM

3:21
yeah, fuck those stupid working class bastards. I mean how could anybody work 9 to 5 and only practice with their band or work on art in the evenings. What is this North Korea?!?!

REAL artists need 24 hour dedication to their craft...and doing drugs...and getting STDs, but mainly dedicated to their artistic craft.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 3:44 PM

3:21 = A trustfund kid that is in a band that is going NOWHERE.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 4:00 PM

But seriously, if Madoff hadn't stole my trust fund, I'd be the next Ol' Dirty Bastard.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 4:12 PM

well at least something good is coming out of the recession

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 4:26 PM

"^ coming from hypocrite who posts under anonymous....how about when your on your way out of williamsburg on your way back to middle america, you take a leap of the brooklyn bridge.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 12:52 PM"

Uh, the Brooklyn Bridge isn't even close to on the way if you're leaving Williamsburg and headed to middle America...If you're asking people to jump off of a bridge, you should probably at least request a more convenient bridge, douche.

Posted by Sacred Absolute Hipster Cow | June 8, 2009 4:49 PM

good time to start mugging/shooting porta rikkens

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 4:56 PM

The Brooklyn Bridge is much prettier and more historic. Feel free to tie a neon rope around your neck and hang yourself from the Williamsburg Bridge if you so desire.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 4:57 PM

im glad that i live with my parents.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 5:04 PM

4:00 - actually, i work 50 hrs a week, i'm broke as shit, my parents have less money than i do, and it's a struggle every day to live here.

i'm not defending these fuckers, i hate them more than anyone. i just recognize there are some subtleties to the discussion that are lost amidst all the moronic name-calling on message boards.

i'd love to take a look at the contents of your ipod, and the clothes in your closet, and the magazines on your shelf. all i'm saying is put your money where your mouth is you small-minded idiot.

you are ignorant, and name-calling 'trustfund kid' belittles the real argument at hand.

sincerely, 3:21

Posted by bd | June 8, 2009 5:22 PM

3:21 Thomas Edison started supporting his own ventures at the age of 12 through newspaper, candy, and fruit/vegetables sales. No trust fund, and look at all he created. Walt Disney developed his craft of cartooning while driving an ambulance for the Red Cross. Apparently, his creativity was not stimied by the need to work instead of sipping decaf double latte`s as other people worked around him. Even Michelangelo had to produce as anrtist before the Medici family made him a benefactor, and had to produce artistically to continue this benefactor relationship. If these kids are creative, and they may very well be and we have no reason to doubt that, they will be able to produce without benefit of a $750K condo, untethered time, or spounging off their parents. Using the excuse of having to live in a resonably priced condo/apartment in Jersey and having to work for money to not be creative is a red herring argument.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 5:29 PM

trust-funders MEHfeccted by recession!

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 5:32 PM

i'd love to take a look at the contents of your ipod, and the clothes in your closet, and the magazines on your shelf. all i'm saying is put your money where your mouth is you small-minded idiot.

What does that have to do with anything? You can take a look at the clothes in my closet if you'd like. You'll just be upset that you can't afford them.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 5:41 PM

@5:41

My point exactly

Posted by bd | June 8, 2009 6:14 PM

Moral of the story- Nothing worthwhile ever came easy

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 6:30 PM

Welcome to our world, hipsters. Being pretentious won't get you out of this one.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 7:20 PM

People here sure do love hating on the hipsters. Isn't self loathing a trait of being a hipster (along with being in denial of actually being a hipster)?

Also, it's public knowledge that most of the people reading BV are in fact hipsters. Granted, some of you are more bitter than others, some more distinguished, etc etc... but I mean c'mon. Who are we really fooling here?

But, you know- you can't polish a turd, as the saying goes. So let's all just smile and enjoy the fact that we all stink of bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 7:23 PM

@5:29

I agree with you 100%, but you have to agree that the dice are loaded. When there are kids living here who CAN dedicate all of their time to their art, and who can then also go out five nights a week and hang out at parties and clubs and network with gallery owners and industry people, it's an uphill battle for the struggling artist who lives in Crown Heights and works 40 hrs a week at a crappy, uncool job to pay his rent.

Posted by bd | June 8, 2009 7:51 PM

everybody hates the midwest...?

Posted by Patrick | June 8, 2009 8:13 PM

"^ coming from hypocrite who posts under anonymous....how about when your on your way out of williamsburg on your way back to middle america, you take a leap of the brooklyn bridge."

The person who posted this posted anonymously. You can't make this up.

Posted by adam | June 8, 2009 8:16 PM

June 8, 2009 3:40 PM : Yes, a good example. The Strokes show exactly what happens when you ape a lifestyle and scene, and know absolutely nothing about it or where it came from. They are embarassing.

Posted by adam | June 8, 2009 8:22 PM

Posted by Patrick | June 8, 2009 8:13 PM : No, everyone doesn't hate the Midwest. My wife is from there. I could care less where people are from. But, it is repellent to move to an area and suddenly act as though you are hipper or more in the know than people who have lived there their whole lives. See: the subjects of this article.

Posted by adam | June 8, 2009 8:27 PM

where?

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 9:32 PM

"It is an adjustment that many have to deal with. Eric Gross, 26, a construction worker, was going to buy, with help from his father, a $600,000 one-bedroom condo with city views at Northside Piers, a luxury building, he said.

But his father, who works in the auto industry, said he had to reduce his contribution. “He’s pulling back the lifeline,” Mr. Gross said."

yeah, this makes sense. eric gross, if you are a construction worker you don't get to live in a 600K home. certain things in life happen this way. get used to it.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 10:35 PM

Anonymous wrote: "'But parental help was obvious in the intersection of residents with low-paying jobs and $3,000-a-month apartments.'

ohhhhh, that's how they do it!!! i thought they were all low profile dope dealers and call girls"

--Actually, as famously recorded in the book Freakonomics, most drug dealers live with their mothers.

As a 58yo native Brooklynite and current Williamsburg resident who thought the neighborhood was interesting back in 1972, I'm not sure what to think. My first reaction is a satisfied Schadenfreude as well as chuckling over the article's pointing out pure silliness on the part of these kids, but I also know it's easy to judge others, especially when you're anonymnously commenting on a blog.

I teach mostly poor students who live in central Brooklyn and admire many of them for their strong work ethic which I can easily contrast with the trustafarians' attitude of entitlement, but not all Williamsburg hipsters are like that. The tenants in my house have artistic ambitions but full-time adult jobs. And I do worry about the negative impact on those regular folks who at least partly depend on the disposable income of 20somethings. I also think the ones forced out on their own, or back home with the family, may be at the start of a great adventure that will prove to be a blessing for them.

And even some of us born in the Truman administration like TV on the Radio. Only a very ignorant person would put them forth as an example of a bad Brooklyn band.

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 11:36 PM

stakes is high

I'm just glad I worked my ass off to support myself

Posted by Anonymous | June 8, 2009 11:45 PM

This is devastating news considering FIT just graduated it's largest class ever. I just hope, for all our sakes, they finish construction on The EDGE sooner than later.

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 12:02 AM

"i think the wavves meltdown (wavves is a trustafarian idol) signals the ending of an era for upper middle class indie kids. time to become real adults. i know, i don't want to either."

or maybe those of us who weren't bullshitting it to be cool and loved will continue to do it anyway, because it doesn't take a fucking trust fund to make art.

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 5:52 AM

"And I do worry about the negative impact on those regular folks who at least partly depend on the disposable income of 20somethings." - anonymous Brooklyn teacher above

That's the spirit...exactly why one can not take too much joy in the demise of others. I'm not an economist (but I play one on BV), though I believe this is called "the multiplier effect".

expansion, contraction, expansion contraction...either we are in the middle of an econonic cycle or I'm going into labor!

Posted by allgreek2me | June 9, 2009 8:13 AM

Eh, it kind of does take a trust fund to make art. Who do you think buys the art? And funds artists? Rich people...

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 8:15 AM

8:15, I enjoy this naive suggestion that you have to have a trust fund to have money. I know plenty of people (unfortunately I'm not one) that are loaded because of hard work and wise investments. If you start with the attitude that only those that come from money can succeed, then you deserve whatever failure befalls you.

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 8:52 AM

On "whatever failure befalls you"

As Bob Dylan sang,

"She knows there's no success like failure,
and a failure is no success at all..."

harmonica solo

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 9:27 AM

"Eh, it kind of does take a trust fund to make art. Who do you think buys the art? And funds artists? Rich people..."


it takes Talent to make art. how many people buy paintings by a super rich person like paul mccartney (the beatle) or iggy pop or david bowie, all exceedingly mediocre visual artists? money will help if you are a truly creative person, but it's no guarantee of success. of course you have to be in the right place at the right time as well. a little bit of Luck never hurt either.


Posted by old punk | June 9, 2009 9:41 AM

there aren't so many actual trust fund kids.

most people in New York and Williamsburg struggle and work, contrary to cliche.

it's a phenomenon you hear about solely because New York does have some trust fund kids. In other towns, there are none at all.

Still, there aren't nearly as many as anecdotal bullshit stories like this one would have you believe.

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 9:58 AM

"Eh, it kind of does take a trust fund to make art. Who do you think buys the art? And funds artists? Rich people..."

For centuries, (visual) art was made by the upper class. You know all those paintings you see at the Met? Rich people. Privileged. Only in the last century (past several decades really) did the non-rich "contribute" to the arts. It seems like time is finally correcting this "anomaly".

Does anybody else find it funny that it seems like it's only trust fund babies pushing their art at galleries? Non-upper class artists tend to be more shy about selling their art. The baby boomer babies entitlement.

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 10:20 AM

^^^

yes, quite true, 9:58. has anyone ever done a study of how many "trust fund brats" (an expression unique to envious BV commentators) actually live in nyc? i'd venture a guess that the percentage is extremely low.

Posted by old punk | June 9, 2009 10:27 AM

hold on folks, there is quite a range of economic classes that can fit under the term "trustfundarian" or whatever....

someone can inherit 20gs of hard earned, well invested money from their family, where as someone else could inherit a mil from generations of being rich, and yet they're being clumped into the same catagory.

there is NOTHING wrong with families giving money to their kids.

and im not an "old guy" 2:01....im a 30 year old woman who has lived in NY for 10 years, worked many careers, from waitressing to massage therapy, then inherited stock, lived off it for 3 years, made a career out of my art, and lost it all in the crash....and now im making money writing pop songs for trustfund kids who want to b the next lady gaga (trust fund kid)

there are bad eggs in every batch. shitty ass rich people and shitty ass hoodies. art careers can be made off of inheritence or off of a successful drug business.....does it really fucking matter?

if a trust fund kid is able to turn inheritence into art that makes people happy, who fucking cares. its the bad eggs that move to mixed neighborhoods, act like they own the world, do coke all night, and complain of having no money when they do have it that gives trust fund kids a bad name.

but dont ever forget that this city's art world has ALWAYS depended on the rich. ALWAYS.

Posted by isla | June 9, 2009 10:57 AM

tl;dr

Posted by ghey | June 9, 2009 10:59 AM

"there aren't so many actual trust fund kids.... Still, there aren't nearly as many as anecdotal bullshit stories like this one would have you believe."

I don't know. That's quite a few 20-somethings with BAs who are able to afford $2000+ apartments. I'm sorry, but the Friends model of a couple people rooming together and bartending and waitressing or whatever is not reality. Maybe there are a few kids at McKibbin or whatever who are broke as shit and just living the artist's dream/hell. But in central Williamsburg, these kids are at least getting a helping hand. You can't tell me the poor people they pushed out were just too dumb to find roommates.

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 11:38 AM

"For centuries, (visual) art was made by the upper class"
That's a bag of shit. You obviously slept off your hangovers during art history class. No, wait, you were a business major!

Posted by Unanymous | June 9, 2009 11:44 AM

'trust fund' is just another way of saying you dont pay your own way...doubt there are many true trust funds...

its shameful and embarrasing not to be self sufficent in your 20s and its selfish and self centered to leach of your parents...wheres the guilt!!!

pay your own way or leave and come back when you can!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 11:58 AM

Tough times ahead for Whiteysburg it seems. This is a good thing for all of Brooklyn. Back to life, back to reality. Brooklyn we've missed you! We're almost back to normal!

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 11:59 AM

@10:57:
"art careers can be made off of inheritence or off of a successful drug business.....does it really fucking matter?"

If you are poor it matters.

"but dont ever forget that this city's art world has ALWAYS depended on the rich. ALWAYS."

That's why people need to wise up and recognize that art made by spoiled rich kids is more often than not meaningless. Not to call you out personally, but what value or use did your art have besides being something nice and expensive to hang on another rich person's wall?

Posted by bd | June 9, 2009 12:22 PM

So I guess to population of the McKibbon lofts is about to explode.

Posted by This Music Sucks | June 9, 2009 12:49 PM

are you kidding 11:38?

nearly everyone has roommates and isn't loaded.

maybe your group of friends is different, but that would make you the one who's outside of "reality."

Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 12:59 PM

Less time reading BV, more time making art.

Posted by Anonymal | June 9, 2009 1:28 PM

"it takes Talent to make art. how many people buy paintings by a super rich person like paul mccartney (the beatle) or iggy pop or david bowie, all exceedingly mediocre visual artists?"

None of whom were trustafarians, to my knowledge. Iggy's father taught English in Detroit and they lived in a double-wide. At least he earned the right to make "mediocre visual art."


Posted by Anonymous | June 9, 2009 3:14 PM

"yes "trustafarian" sure is a fresh"

I just love when dweebs onthe internet discover something that has been in use for decades. in the 80's they said the same thing about certain greatful dead fans. There were 2 kinds of dead fans on tour. The trustafarians who stayed in hotels and did coke, and the hippie kids who might sell tacos or just try and bum a miracle as the hitched from show to show.

Maybe the original poster was being sarcastic and it didn't come through.

See, people can't put down people on the basis of race or gender preference anymore but there is no restraint on consumer cultural slurring.

Posted by nygrump | June 9, 2009 3:52 PM

3:14,

I was responding to the poster who said it "takes a trust fund to make art". i disagree with that notion. even famous people with tons of money don't necessarily make good visual art. my point was it's not money per se, but rather TALENT that most often (but not always) rises to the surface.

btw, one doesn't need to "earn a right" to make art. anyone can do it. some are just better at it than others. there are only 2 kinds of art in my opinion: Great Art or mediocrity. i love Iggy, but his paintings blow.

Posted by old punk | June 9, 2009 7:44 PM

thanks a lot.

Posted by Okey | June 17, 2009 1:09 AM

I am financially independent, but I made sure to forward this to my parents. They don't like my job, but hey, it could be much worse!

And WTF most people I know have had an 8 hour a day job by the time they were 18...!

Posted by Dreamr | August 24, 2009 1:47 PM

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