Posted in music | venues on August 11, 2009

Knitting Factory Brooklyn - May 14, 2009 (Aonghais MacInnes)
Knitting Factory

Knitting Factory is opening its Brooklyn location on September 9th. More info on the venue itself, below...

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DESIGN
361 Metropolitan Ave. has gone through a complete redesign by Hecho Inc. (The Box, Marshall Stack, Delicatessen, Spitzer's Corner, Perle, Watty & Meg). Many key elements have been designed and built in an effort to be environmentally conscious. Some of these include: a beautifully restored vintage 1930's bar from West Virginia, timber flooring from a South Carolina woolen mill, and an all new store front featuring salvaged windows from The Brooklyn Navy Yard. There will be a 5'x27' soundproof window offering a continuous view between the front bar and the performance space.

THE KNIT BAR
The club will house two full bars. The Knit Bar, located in front of the venue, will be open seven days a week (Monday - Wednesday from 5pm - until close, Thursday - Sunday from Noon - 4AM) offering locally prepared food, while the Performance Space bar will be open during shows. Each bar will have 10 draft lines featuring local and organic beers, as well as a variety of bottled favorites. Happy Hour in the Knit Bar will be from 5pm - 7pm daily.

Other Knit Bar features: Wi-Fi, 2 large flat screen TVs, audio / video tie-ins to The Performance Space, comfortable built-in booths, windows that can open to the street on sunny days and a small stage for readings, DJ sets and acoustic performances.

PERFORMANCE SPACE
The Performance Space will have a flexible capacity to accommodate standing and seated shows alike. It will host an eclectic mix of national, international and local acts as well as art and cultural events. Acoustical design elements and extensive sound proofing have been added throughout the space for enhanced sound. State of the art sound and lighting will be featured along with a robotic, four-camera, high-definition video recording system. A 400-square-foot stage will be highlighted with an automated curtaining system, a large pull down video screen and unobstructed sight lines from all parts of the venue. A separate DJ booth with a full compliment of DJ equipment will accompany the stage. The backstage area will include two furnished lockable dressing rooms, two bathrooms and direct stage access.

The Knitting Factory will further the tradition of bringing people together through the arts, maintaining a gateway of discovery for both performers and patrons alike, now in the heart of Brooklyn.

"I'm ecstatic and proud to see Knitting Factory make its next impact to the music world by stepping into an artistic community such as Williamsburg. I'm further thrilled with the team of talented people that we've assembled in this move and personally honored to be part of this group." Mr.Morgan Margolis-CEO / President Knitting Factory Entertainment.

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PREVIOUSLY: Knitting Factory Brooklyn opening September 9th w/ Les Savy Fav (tix on sale) ++ other upcoming shows like Boss Hog

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Comments (57)

Why Brooklyn? After the Luna Lounge miserably failed, didn't they notice they moving from Manhattan is like the kiss of death? Look at the new Siberia bar, empty. Let's alienate those that do not live in the neighborhood. Yeah, that's a winning strategy.


Serious, Luna Lounge failed because it was inaccessible. Will the new KF outlive LL Brooklyn? Maybe, but not much longer.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:21 PM

12:21, the world does not rotate around Manhattan. Lots of venues in Williamsburg are doing great, and the reason Luna Lounge failed has at least in part to do with its crappy booking.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:28 PM

"Serious, Luna Lounge failed because it was inaccessible. Will the new KF outlive LL Brooklyn? Maybe, but not much longer."

Completely false. It was poor design. As much as I loved the place and wanted it to succeed the sound was horrible and there was only one bar and performance area. The big draw of the old Luna Lounge was the ability to go in and check out bands or just hang out with friends at the bar, couches, or playing foozball. It lost everything in the move and the neighborhood couldn't support a venue that big.

KF sounds like they're setting it up smartly and in a way that allows for a lot of what was missing from the previous Luna Lounge set up.

And moving from Manhattan is the kiss of death? You're an idiot. Greenpoint/Williamsburg area is fast becoming the musical spot that was so loved in the EV/LES in the 90's that's been killed off by NYU.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:30 PM

There are far too many venues in Brooklyn as of now anyway....Music Hall, Union Pool, Union Hall, Bell House, etc....

Unless they book bands people care about, this place will be gone by next year for sure...

and hope they kept the capacity under 250 like the old Knitting

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:31 PM

"Music Hall, Union Pool, Union Hall, Bell House"

Bell House and Union Hall are as close to Music Hall and Union Pool as they are to Pianos and Bowery Ballroom. Get a clue

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:36 PM

Luna Lounge had TERRIBLE booking, and the place itself wasn't really all that inviting. I only went there a couple of times, but it never really seemed like a place I'd make a point to go to. Plus... they seemed to have only a show or two per week.

The Bell House, Union Hall and MHOW are all great venues. Well designed, book great acts and have pretty decent bars (especially Bell & Union). All of those places are a bit of a walk to the nearest train (though not really that far)...

Basically... if this new Knit is well designed (which it sounds like it will be) and books good acts (which it looks like it is doing), I don't see any reason why this would fail.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:42 PM

"Luna Lounge had TERRIBLE booking, and the place itself wasn't really all that inviting. I only went there a couple of times, but it never really seemed like a place I'd make a point to go to. Plus... they seemed to have only a show or two per week."

Not to mention they were partnered with Live Nation which might as well be another kiss of death - see Gramercy Theatre.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 12:44 PM

The Knitting Factory died long long long long time ago... Now, it is just another hypster bar with surrounding music.

How lame.

Posted by Oli | August 11, 2009 1:08 PM

Oli the hipster died long long long ago... Now, he is just another square with a corporate job and surrounding smooth jazz music.

How lame.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:15 PM

"It was poor design. As much as I loved the place and wanted it to succeed the sound was horrible and there was only one bar and performance area. The big draw of the old Luna Lounge was the ability to go in and check out bands or just hang out with friends at the bar, couches, or playing foozball. "

I agree with this statement. It was no fun to go there, nowhere to escape the noise. Also, the sound was so boomy there, don't think I heard one good-sounding show there. If Luna had done a better job it could have flourished. There was room for it.

It's a much more competitive market now. I'm anxious to see the new space, sounds like they're doing it right. Or at least better.

Posted by bill p | August 11, 2009 1:23 PM

"Why Brooklyn? After the Luna Lounge miserably failed, didn't they notice they moving from Manhattan is like the kiss of death? Look at the new Siberia bar, empty. Let's alienate those that do not live in the neighborhood. Yeah, that's a winning strategy."

Everyone point and laugh at the guy who doesn't know anything. Srsly. Lolz.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:25 PM

Union Poll and Union Hall are mostly glorified bars, not concert rooms. I wouldn't even put them in the same category as Bowery et al.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:27 PM

This Knitting Factory is the final straw! When I bought my condo I was told the hipsters were moving out and the Barnes and Nobles's and Starbucks's were moving in. What a disappointment. I went to Academy Records today and they didn't even have the new Demi Lovato CD!

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:46 PM

looks like knit is going to be booked by folks that used to book BROWNIES.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:48 PM

Manhattan=loserville

Brooklyn=funpartyland

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Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:49 PM

@1:15 PM - If the hipster died a "long long time ago", then who are these skinny jeans wearing jerkwads I see on the G and L trains? Ghosts?

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:50 PM


Ah, I'm as negative as the next music industry person who anonymously posts on this website, but fuck it, I'mma give
em a chance. U can't please all the people all the time, sounds
like it's been spruced up quite a bit. Hopefully they get some strong shows,guess thats key. Nothing happens over night, u fucking hacks. And as they've dealt with for years, going up against Bowery , Live Nation and so forth isn't an easy task.

U gotta have a big dick and big balls.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:51 PM

The Pipettes shows at the Luna Lounge were Funtastic!

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:53 PM

Remember the big oaf in the cowboy hat who worked the door at the old Luna and would yell at you if you put your beer glass on the foosball table..yeah those were good times.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 1:56 PM


Flying Lotus and Gaslamp Killer at Luna Lounge was dope ...
and the cancelled Witch show

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Posted by Balless Pete | August 11, 2009 2:51 PM

agreed 1:53. The Pipettes show that I saw there was a total blast.

Everything else... notsomuch...

Posted by wembley | August 11, 2009 3:41 PM

maybe they'll book more jam bands like brooklyn bowl. that would be suck-awesome-tastic

Posted by joe | August 11, 2009 6:29 PM

One more idiotic bar in town

All these stupid, noisy bars that appear and appear again. They are all the same old stuff that makes always difficult the expression of good art. What we need are small theaters with seats and if there is a bar there, well it should be located in a totally different room, separated by enough distance so people can listen to the music without being distracted all the time by the people talking and the noises coming from the bar. These bars not just act against the exprecion of the music but they promote trivial conversations because of the permanent background noise. There is no chance there for subtelies with the language and more demanding topics of conversation, so we all remain idiots (without even noticing it).

In these kind of contexts the best that the architect/designer can do is to treat people like catle, i.e. arranging the space in such a way that it will prevent them from showing their idiotic side (we all have one, me included). The same idiots that during concerts talk and talk, and also block the view of the people who happen to be smaller than them, well these same people will behave very quietly if they are siting in a small theater with seats, where everyone is dead quiet. (idiosts are shy too). And because they will be sitting, they will not block the view of other people so this problem will be solved without asking anybody. And people will have the chance to learn that listening music is not just entertainment. They will probably start soon to appreciate the experience of attending to the music and just that.

Brooklyn concentrates many of the best music in the world. However most of the venues are inadequate( with few exceptions). This is a shame and a waste of opportunity. Playing in churches or houses is still much better for the art than all these funzy new idiotic venues.

Posted by Carlos Molina | August 11, 2009 8:03 PM

there are too many douches who go to clubs. basically there should be a door policy that strictly prohibits douches from entering. if you look like a douche, talk like a douche, or walk like a douche you should be forbidden from entering the club. but of course that will never happen as clubs make money off of douchebags. DB's, skanky hipsters, annoying drunks who talk during the show, and eurotrash posers all give clubland a bad name. the world should be run by trust fund kids. be a much better place. art is too precious to be shared with proletariat simpletons.

Posted by elitist | August 11, 2009 8:30 PM

Anon 8:30 - the new Knitting Factory is apparently 18+ with ID, so maybe that will act as a makeshift douchebag filter. I'm young myself, but the tribeca Knitting Factory had been packed with teenage hipster posers for far too long now.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 9:04 PM

I'm personally thrilled to see KF moving into the neighborhood, here's to hoping they provide a bike rack!

Posted by Williamsburger | August 11, 2009 9:36 PM

I like Brooklyn, but I see the problem with Brooklyn venues all the time. My non-Brooklyn friends will not go in Williamsburg for a show, especially if it ends late.

It's why many bigger names will do a night at the Bowery Ballroom and another at MHoW. The Bowery show always sells out first. It's more geographically central. I know when the L goes down for service, getting into WB sucks. Not everyone lives in WB.

Posted by Anonymous | August 11, 2009 10:52 PM

I don't get all the negativity. This is good news to me. Another well built, somewhat intimate concert venue in a relatively accessible location = What's to complain about? Other than Mercury/Bowery/MHOWB and occasionally Bell House there aren't many other venues that fall into this category these days. I just hope they book good/interesting bands.

Posted by BTW | August 12, 2009 9:43 AM

"Another well built, somewhat intimate concert venue in a relatively accessible location"

How is the location accessible? Maybe if you live in Williamsburg, but if you live in Jersey, Queens, South Brooklyn, Upper Manhattan, then the location is not accessible. The old Knitting Factory was accessible, one subway to Penn Station, Port Authority, the PATH was a long walk nearby. Williamsburg is nowhere near as accessible.

Seriously, why are you saying "relatively accessible location"? It doesn't make sense.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 10:57 AM

"why are you saying "relatively accessible location"? It doesn't make sense."

You do realize that this is a mere 2 stops out on the L...the L, which runs across Manhattan, connecting to almost every other train line...thereby making it just as accessible as Nokia or T5 or Radio City are to people who live in Jersey, Queens, Staten Island, Brooklyn, the Bronx, Upper Manhattan, Lower Manhattan, etc.

I'm sorry they chose somewhere other than in your living room to build this venue. Could you possibly act any more entitled or lazy?

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 11:08 AM

"My non-Brooklyn friends will not go in Williamsburg for a show, especially if it ends late"

Then tell your friends to move back to Iowa, since that's probably more their speed.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 11:09 AM

manhattan rents are too high for many music venues without corporate backing, brooklyn is the new LES

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 1:22 PM

I am not the OP but:

"thereby making it just as accessible as Nokia or T5 or Radio City"

Actually, you are pretty wrong. Nokia, T5 and RCMH are close to Penn Station and Grand Central. No need to even take the subway. With the new KF and your "mere 2 stops out on the L" now requires two additional subways to get to. Think about it. Get it now?

Another example: Queens. Let's say Astoria. Nokia, T5 and RCMH? One subway. KF? Two subways.

Jersey? Two river commute instead of one.

"mere 2 stops out on the L" only applies if you living on 1st and 14th. Get it now?

Don't forget that the L is unreliable. The owners of North 6 always complained about the L train not working and disrupting their business.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 1:55 PM

"Then tell your friends to move back to Iowa, since that's probably more their speed"

I love it when Midwesterners make fun of other Midwesterners. Sorry, you can squat all you want in Bushwick, but you will never be a real New Yorker. Anyone that came during the Giuliani/Bloomberg administration is just another transient hipster. It took courage to move during the Koch/Dinkins years or before. Please don't think you are not cool just because you moved to Brooklyn in 2005.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 1:59 PM

"Don't forget that the L is unreliable. The owners of North 6 always complained about the L train not working and disrupting their business."

when Northsix was open... the L train was unreliable. Now, this is not the case. They were making all of the improvements on the L line at that time. There were weekends where there was no L service at all. The improvements made are what made it so it is now a reliable train. I would say maybe even the best train in the city.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 2:13 PM

i live in jersey city and take the PATH/ L all the time. quick trip. it's no biggie.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 9:21 PM

^
likewise. i get the feeling that the people complaining about the location have never actually been to the neighborhood, or only did so once back a few years ago when they were doing all of that work on the L.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 9:43 PM

Man, the bitching on here is extreme and perhaps a bit foolish. The more venues the better as it provides more choices. I live in Queens and have been to the Luna Lounge (which I actually liked) and found it to be accessible from the G train which connects to the V or E train. My only caveat so far is that I don't see myself going to any of the shows so far booked as there are no bands I want to see. Sure that will change.

Posted by Anonymous | August 12, 2009 9:45 PM

DEATH TO HIPSTERS. Face it Williamsburg is the fakest place you can go in NY, it will never be the new LES like all you douches claim it is, it doesn't even feel like NY. Fucking thing sucks.

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2009 2:52 AM

^---- YES! I also want young fashionable people who listen to popular music to DIE!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | August 14, 2009 1:37 PM

i live in jersey city and take the PATH/ L all the time. quick trip. it's no biggie.

Posted by boya | August 15, 2009 7:06 AM

The home decoration is too good and this will give you the good designs for the newly constructed houses and will also help in refining the old ones.

Posted by interior design ideas | December 30, 2009 5:18 AM

No need to even take the subway. With the new KF and your "mere 2 stops out on the L" now requires two additional subways to get to. Think about it. Get it now?

Posted by Health Insurance | January 8, 2010 12:32 AM

the cowboy hat who worked the door at the old Luna and would yell at you if you put your beer glass on the foosball table..yeah those were good times.

Posted by home hemorrhoid treatment | January 16, 2010 9:57 PM

Lots of venues in Williamsburg are doing great, and the reason Luna Lounge failed has at least in part to do with its crappy booking.

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Hall are as close to Music Hall and Union Pool as they are to Pianos and Bowery Ballroom. Get a clue

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Posted by Schoenhut Concert Grand Piano | January 31, 2010 10:33 PM

It is Idiotic bar...it should be located in a totally different room....

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Posted by KimberleyVM | February 22, 2010 12:00 AM

I really agree with you man... the bar is not good compared to other... Its waste of money....

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Posted by paper writing | March 12, 2010 12:14 AM

The new Knitting Factory was a HUGE disappointment!! There was nothing new and different about the place. It looked just like every other grunge dive bar/venue. Cool creative artsy types want nice looking venues too. Although it was clean and I'm really appreciative for the recycled design but they left out style. I've seen companies take an old bunch of soda cans or cardboard boxes and turn them into something elegant and cool.

Only local jam bands will perform there. Their name is the only thing keeping them alive. If it were a new unknown club, it wouldn't be a big deal. But people have a certain level of expectation when going to "The Knitting Factory."

Posted by Pissed | March 18, 2010 7:04 PM

Nice information, but actually I do not interested in bar or club, I prefer to stay at home with my family all night...

Posted by Intelligentsia | March 31, 2010 1:54 PM

This Knitting Factory is the final straw! When I bought my condo I was told the hipsters were moving out and the Barnes and Nobles's and Starbucks's were moving in. What a disappointment. I went to Academy Records today and they didn't even have the new Demi Lovato CD!

Posted by jessica | April 28, 2011 2:24 PM

I am not very interested, but I know it is a good article, I believe many people will like it,It was poor design. As much as I loved the place and wanted it to succeed the sound was horrible and there was only one bar and performance area. The big draw of the old Luna Lounge was the ability to go in and check out bands or just hang out with friends at the bar

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