which "reliable sources" would these be??

FOUR nights at Summerstage? No.

I believe it actually says "multiple, possibly four, nights of shows at NYC's Central Park Summerstage"

"FOUR nights at Summerstage? No."

they could pull it off

EIJFUHGYEFHJLK

What do you mean "they could pull it off?" Like without passing out from exhaustion or running out of songs?

FINALLY!!!!!!

pavemehnt

pants = pooped.

As a fan of the band, I've actually been hoping that this day would never come. Just let it be, fellas. It was wonderful when it happened and you left us with a lot of great music. Don't cheapen it now.

Last time I saw them they opened for My Bloody Valentine and Superchunk at the Ritz.

MBV/Superchunk/Pavement show sounds insane. majorly jealous. and they could pull off four nights at summerstage. i'm going as long as tickets aren't too ridiculously expensive...

8:03pm nailed it.

Wonderful news.

who doesn't wanna hear some jerk yell for Box Elder all show long?

See---ing paVement is fun. and fun should be had again at pavement shows.

bring on the banter!

i'll believe it when i see it...

7:59pm nailed it but this has nothing to do with Pavement possibly reuniting. It has more to do with lack of sphincter control.

September 15, 2009 8:12 PM : It was great. I still remember how fucking loud MBV were. I rememeber my GF at the time holding her ears during the feedback barrage at the end of their set. I only saw Pavement a couple of times but they were always really tight live.

they better play at Coachella

Hoping for an exclusive first reunion show at ATP.

But will TWENT WEZNOR be saying hello/goodbye with them?

is that the best you can do? copy from wikipedia? I'd prefer to hear it officially from the band rather than your "reliable source"

predicted this at 4:15

Why the hype? The only Pavement show that sold out in NYC was the one in support of the Matador 10th anniversary party. They never sold too many tickets. Remember the reaction when they played Lollapalooza on Randall's Island? No one was there to see them.

This sounds too good to be true - so it probably is.

But, then again, people must have been saying that about rumored Pixies reunion, Dinosaur Jr., etc.

Okay now I think its safe to assume that we're all jacking off in our cum rags to this news.

godspeed you! black emperor reunion curation of ATP > pavement

Why the hype? The only Pavement show that sold out in NYC was the one in support of the Matador 10th anniversary party. They never sold too many tickets.

>>> so very , very wrong...

they sold 3 nights at Irving Plaza on one of their tours... also I remember being at a sold out Roseland show (Guided By Voices opened) sure they didn't consistently do 3000-4000 people but they are legendary and there are a lot more new fans out there that never saw them & a ton who would love to see them again... all that being said I think this reunion stuff is extremely speculative but we live in a "it was on the internet so it must be true" world these days..

lets not forget they sold out the old westbeth theater. they were always a strong draw, especially in new york, and if it is four nights at summerstage it will sell out immediately no doubt.

this is great. and to the fans who are doubtful, i understand, but they are so perfect for a reunion. ibold, malkmus, and sstairs have all been playing music consistently (has west?) and their age isn't an issue (not really "old") and their stage show was never about the moonwalk. plus i never got the impression that they hated each other, just got exhausted and worn out. its gonna be a lot of fun. this is the awesome.

when is this NOT a rumor?

believing "reliable sources" about Pavement reunions is a bit like believing Wikipedia

I have a feeling that we won't hear one way or another about this all winter, just frustrating everyone even more...

nobody puts baby in a corner

This is definitely happening---the reunion that is. I know nothing regarding where they will play. But really---who cares? Pavement was a terrible live band. I love the records but I never walked away from a Pavement show thinking that I had seen anything close to good.

PaveMEHnt..sorry but it needed to be said.

what would be cooler, this or neutty milk hotel 'reuniting'

maybe the national song helped!!!!!

"'The National song didn't help,' Malkmus said."

Guess not.

B O R I N G - hey GV/Coachella, spend the money on a Smiths reunion. Let's at least get a real bitch up there.

I guess what this means is Malkmus is broke.

with the way things have built up in the post pitchfork era, they will probably make more money off of doing this for a few months than they made in their entire previous career

fuck the summerstage.

10:27-they are probably all broke and desperatly need money

I hope they reunite as an early period Aerosmith cover band.

big star, public image, pavement. maybe so many people have died this summer that a rule of threes has passed on to rock group reunions

Hot sex!

I refuse to pay this any (nicene) credence until I hear this from the ever disenchanted mouth of Malkmus, himself.

This is just like how they were definitely going to reunite for Matador's last big anniversary.

JUST LIKE IT.

GET READY, AMERICA - YOUR FREEDOM IS BEING PUT TO THE TEST

broke. broken. sad. pathetic. average. pavement.

i will only go if the kid from the crooked rain irving plaza show jumps back on stage, all four nights, to take a picture with malkmus. must be disposable camera. at random times. one of my fave bands. hopefully this isn't a rouse.

from what I've heard committed to tape Pavement always comes off sounding really choppy and incoherent live. They're obviously capable of creating awesome sound but I guess it doesn't shock me to learn that Malkmus was sorta bored on stage all those years with all the lackadaisical playing and improv.

The Smiths, Pink Floyd, Talking Heads, Blur, Pulp, Boards of Canada, Neutral Milk Hotel, Lush, or Slowdive reunion > a Pavement reunion

FUGAZI TO REUNITE AT THE LEGION HALL IN D.C DECEMBER 16TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > This Pavement rumor

who wants to see a fat bald Spiral Stairs these days??

old bands>newbands

i heard the beatles were gonna do a reunion tour too.

Were these guys very good live? I have a couple of shows in my compurt that are ok at best.

Joey Noodles,
Yes. Hence the $90 crooked rain reissue on vinyl.
Sincerely,
Alison

That would be a couple of shows in my computer. I do find it hard to believe they never sold out any shows even though they were never big stars. S & E was a pretty popular album with the indie kids.

11:01,

i probably like all those bands more than Pavement too (except lush and boards), but like all others before you, what's your fucking point? can nobody enjoy the possibility of a Pavement reunion because they're not Neutral Milk Hotel?

PaveMEHnt?

pavement broke up becuase they knew blogs like this were on their way. i hope they fucking blow up new york city.

no Gary Young = not a "real" Pavement reunion

JESUS CHRIST MALKMUS.

handcuffs on a mic stand is worse than steven tyler's bandana scarves. so sorry you were in a band where you had to interact with people equally. what a douche.

I really like Pavement. I would be severely disappointed if this news turned out to be false. Boy, would I like to go see my favorite band live.

I am going to wait for Matador to announce it before I truly celebrate and mentally prepare myself.

I sure do like them. And I am pretty sure a lot of other people do too.

if there was one band on BV that I thought users wouldn't "meh" it would be pavement, honestly surprised

also to that guy who said that a blur reunion would top this, didn't they just play glastonbury?

As a BV user...I refer to them as PaveMEHnt.
Actually since I was alive in their heyday I consider them the most overrated band of that entire time period. The only band with lots of hype that bummed me out more was Superchunk. Superchunk almost ruined my Helmet experience in 1990 by sucking so bad before Helmet went on that I almost left. Thank fuck I didn't since Helmet blew my 18 year old mind.

I want to poop on Kanye West.

I always thought Pavement was overrated.
Now I would love to see a Smiths reunion.

I heard Kanye West has joined the band. Doesn't that at least triple their amount of musical talent?

12:53 nailed it too

I'd go but I wouldn't be all that excited about it. They were good but not great. They were cooler than most of today's bands however. Oh yeah, count me in on pooping on Kanye. Never understood what anyone ever saw in that loser. Or his friends Jay Z and Rhianna for that matter. All hype.

The Smiths suck. Go cry in a corner.

Good for Pavement. Can't wait!

If you think the Smiths "suck" - you must be deficient in the ability to appreciate great music.

The Smiths are overrated.

If inventing a new sound is overrated - then go ahead and call them that.

So, there's all these fucking awesome bands like Scissor Shock still writing new songs but people care about this garbage?

"FUGAZI TO REUNITE AT THE LEGION HALL IN D.C DECEMBER 16TH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > This Pavement rumor"

Is there any truth to FUGAZI reuniting? That would trump everything!

Its true...many people have known that their agent was just waiting for the right price. The word was already out there. They've been 'seeding' the newer generation by re-releasing all of their old material in preparation for the reunion. Like the Pixies, they'll make more money on this tour than they did during their entire career. Good for them...they deserve it! BTW, first BIG show will be Coachella...

I fucking hate all of you
noone cares whether or not any of you think it's ok that pavement might play a show.
you will all die alone

2:38 - I tried to listen to your band - but it was impossible.

everything officially sucks. time to shut down BV.

Coachella Coachmella, they deserve the honorable atp ny curator honors, plz.

Coachella 2010 will look like this:
Pavement, Blur, Air, Massive Attack, Arctic Monkeys, LCD Soundsystem, Tiesto, Justice, Vampire Weekend, MGMT, Echo & the Bunnymen, Devo, Madness, Sunny Day Real Estate, Phoenix, Royksopp, Wolfmother, Florence & the Machine, Gossip, La Roux, Little Boots, Bat for Lashes, Dirty Projectors, The Pains of Being Pure at Heart, Little Joy, Amanda Blank, The Raveonettes, Birdy Nam Nam, some Marley, with Jay-Z, Muse, and whatever the biggest name is that they can get (Radiohead or Bowie or Daft or Neil or Pearl Jam or The Who or a big reunion) for headliners.

why would they play both atp nyc and multiple nights in Central Park in the same month. That doesn't seem very likely to me. I've seen them say that they were waiting for the right amount of money to reunite so some festival has to be involved and my money is on it being coachella.

Steve West is certainly still in the music game with Marble Valley: www.marblevalley.co.uk

3:02 just may be spot on. and poopaloop, scissor shock is some of the worst shit i've ever heard

I became a Pavement fan after they broke up and would absolutely LOVE to see them live. As for them sounding shitty at shows, how can you not understand that when you play the same songs with the same guys for 10 years, you tend to get a little worn out and the passion fizzles. Dude, they were Nirvana's favorite opening act. I listen to Pavement regularly and they were a fantastic band. Out of tune guitars and off key singing and they not only pull it off, but it sounds good!!! Gary Young(original drummer for 1 album) was a fuckin' mess!!! He was hammered drunk 24/7. They had to replace him. I appreciate classic bands and inventive new sound, but FUCK MORRISEY!! I'd like to poop on him AND kanye at the same time!!!

Well... what can I say. This is ridiculous.

E C O N O M Y

Fugazi reuniting for one show? That's a big deal?

Who hasn't seen fugazi dozens of times already?

Neutral Milk Hotel just reunited 5 minutes ago and vowed never to play live again EVER....sucks for YOU!

Apprently NME.com reads this site..

http://www.nme.com/news/pavement/47338

rent party-many of them do it when their options reach dead ends. you can go or not go. i remember them as an active band, growing and creating. this ain't that.

macg422"them sounding shitty at shows"

whoever told you that is a moron - every time I saw them (4x) they were crystalline perfection.

I hate Summerstage, its an outdoor prison.

I hate everyone and everything especially Stevie Wevie Malkmus,the Jerry Seinfeld of rock and roll.

But I wuv TWENT WEZNOR!

oh my good - so overrated. could someone seriously explain the significance of this band to me? did they do something musically innovative or communicate with their fans in some special creative way i missed...seriously

All I need now in life is an At The Drive-In reunion...please I beg you god

"could someone seriously explain the significance of this band to me? did they do something musically innovative"

They were the first -- or anyway, the best -- to pull off a perfect blend of elements from Sonic Youth, The Fall, etc. on the one hand, Sticky Fingers-era Stones on the other -- which around 1992 was quite a feat. The guitar playing was equal parts Thurston/Ranaldo and Mick Taylor/Keith -- a combination that at the time was very, very surprising. It was neither straight indie/punk, nor classic rock, but a successful blend of some of the best elements of each.

And that's just one way they were innovative.

obviously anyone who doesn't get pavement didn't go to grad school.

awful band that wrote plain fucking music
shit is hardly listenable. certainly not enjoyable.
hype for no reason.

handcuffed to the mic stand! tosser.

I would take an ATDI reunion, 9:51. At Mercury lounge... oh man...

2:08am

if that 'invented sound' is the awful messy bullshit that is Pavement, that i'll go right ahead and call it overrated.

and whoever compared these guys to Mick Taylor/Keith Richards.. are you fucking kidding me? please point me in the direction of a song that is highly enjoyable and musically interesting and inviting as opposed to esoteric as fuck AND sounds like the genius that is Taylor/Richards. i'm sorry but i don't ever recall like I was listening to 'Bitch' while listening to this shit band.

pavement sucks my fucking fat 'sausage in the morning with eggs and orange juice' dick

I don't think pavement ever opened for Nirvana

10:17 didn't go to grad school

We always knew this fucking day would come. It's been a fun ride. Thanks to Goner and everyone who helped us along the way. The cover band/name origin questions are dealable at this point, but it seems like 2010 will be a lot harder to get through.

Look for an announcement from us soon. Obviously this isn't the last word.

Pavement is terrible. Have fun paying a shitload of $$$ to see these guys, old people.

@10:05 - Thanks for addressing my comment, and I don't mean to sound like a jerk. I had their first album, used to listen to it...But today I just don't feel like a reunion tour is something to go gaga over.

pavement is such a weezer rip-off band

10:21

why the fuck doe grad school have to do with not liking this band?
keep being a dick.

what*
does*

aw shit.
two typos = you automatically win the internet argument
go jerk yourself off now.

10:21 did get his ged

some day in the future when a grad student is writing a dissertation on inanity in early 21st century america, brooklyn vegan will be a goldmine

minor threat to reunite at irving plaza 12/18/09

Does anyone like the Swell Maps?

Archers Of Loaf should open for them!

Swell maps rule. Whats that got to do with Pavement?

no fucking way minor threat are reuniting.

16 hours later still waiting for "reliable sources" as opposed to "the same people who talk about this every year six months before Coachella"

if they haven't spoken up by now, they're not reliable sources.

ITS REAL

http://pitchfork.com/news/36505-holy-shit-pavement-reunion-is-real/

I am tipping they will play at the ATP 10 year party at Minehead in December. Would be a nice low key show for a reunion. Malk and the Jicks are already playing.

Pavemhent

BV, well done folks! This rumor has been popping up for years but looks like you actually got it right unlike every other blog who has posted this every 6 months for the past however many years.

to everyone talking about ticket prices: i'm pretty sure the central park summerstage shows are always free. at least dinosaur jr. was.
which may explain the multiple performances.

Hey, my Nan told me that Phil Lynot will be joining Sonic Youth to replace Mark Ibold when he goes back to Pavement. Also, Lou Barlow's brother Ken mentioned that the new Sebadoh album sounds like The Killers and that they're going to be headlining the Mars landing at the Blahblahblahblah Festival in 2092. If anyone knows what's going on with WCKR SPGT, keep schtum, no one cares. Sadly.

^ The Central Park shows are NOT always free.

I guess Stephen Malkmus wanted to keep his claim to being the coolest Pavement member, and was worried that Mark Ibold stole that by joining Sonic Youth.

(119 comments and not one reference to the Ibold? For shame...)

^ Yes they are if you're not dumb enough to buy a ticket.

the second drummer drowned
his telephone was found

The late 80's/Early 90's are making a comeback tour!

I am surprised by the negativity among BV commenters about Pavement. I'm beginning to think these commenters don't have anything nice to say about any band. I mean, I've said some bad things about a few bands that really piss me off, having to sit through Fuck Buttons or Titus Andronicus opening at the pool for instance, but isn't Pavement really popular among indie folk? I'm confused.. I think they'd be perfect for ATP, and I would also think that half the people on here making poop and dick jokes will in reality be waiting in line for Summer Stage wearing tight pants and bad flannel...

@11:04, there are obvious (at least to me) similarities between the Maps and Pavement's early singles and the 10".

i never thought i'd see the day when WCKR SPGT was referenced on BV.

that day has come.

the one time i saw Wingtip Sloat, they opened w/ a cover of "Trigger Cut" which was a brilliant move.

good news, hold on tite

I am 2:08 - with that invented sound comment I was referring to the Smiths - not pavment.

pavement is the most boring bland dull uninspiring poster child for the worst part of the 90s wave of indie rock that almost drowned american music for ever....since yo la tengo.

music for old people//pitchfork.

pretty much like everything from drag city.

The Smiths = overrated

Pavement = underrated

You got it backwards 2:17...

Someone compared this shitty little ironic 90s band to the combo of Mick Taylor and Keith Richards? Pavement versus peak-era Rolling Stones? HA HA HA! Pavement should more likely be compared to the combo of Pee Wee Herman and Tiny Tim.

^
says someone named "sway". are you friends with that guy who likes helmet? [not a metaphor]

@2:02, you didn't just shit on drag city, did you?

tell me what these bands have in common with 'indie rock'?

Sir Richard Bishop
Om
Six Organs of Admittance
Singer
Ghost
Bill Callahan

http://www.dragcity.com/artists

it's one thing to not like something, but ignorance is no excuse.

LETS HOPE THEY ALSO PLAY ACL FOR US FOLKS IN THE SOUTH

MEHvement

3:02, are you fucking serious? Somebody already did it correctly ("Pavemehnt," 7:58), another asshole failed at doing the same thing a day later, astonishingly ("Pavemhent," 11:04) and now you, you apathetic, lobotomized dipshit, stumble in with this?

MEHvement?

MEHvement?

That's it, I quit Earth.

Bill Callahan isn't/wasn't 'indie rock'?

You need to go back to rock school, teen.

"That's it, I quit Earth."

meh.

3:19, I'm totally serious. "Terror Twilight" was shite.

The MEH will inherit the Earth

Please don't acknowledge any meh comments, it just keeps the fucktard going. Ooops, but I mean from Now on...

@3:32, 2:47 here. No, Callahan/Smog isn't indie rock. Your definition is no good. He's a highly literate musician who has done an amazing transformation from no-fi bedroom scribblings (you can come over to listen to my LP copy of _Sewn To The Sky_ if you wish) to a non-lush Leonard Cohen output. I see you also conveniently avoided mentioning any other DC artist.

Teen? That's funny.

summerstage is too small. they will need to play madison square garden.

"summerstage is too small. they will need to play madison square garden"....

with TWENT WEZNOR!

4:01 Meh Guy made me laugh that time. Bravo!

Darlin don't you go and cut your MEHair

You think it's easy
but you're wrong

I'll come from australia to see this one. Malkumus and spiral playing days apart in melbourn next week........mini reunion?

you guys make me laugh

i know folks that work for summerstage and now the rumor is, since the news leaked, shows not happening.. just what i heard.. honest.. good sources..

No Gary. No Pavement

209

hopefully its not as shitty as the terror twilight tour

Hey, the BV review sucks - why focus on minor and breakup dramas and barely talk about the music? Reads like a soap opera.

And seriously, if you're hating on Pavement, you're either some kid who hasn't heard anything beyond "Cut Yr Hair" or a hate-defining hipster who only likes bands that haven't formed yet. And yes, we are laughing at you behind your back.

go back to those gold soundz

BIG SOURCE: More info? This is like the vaguest "news" story ever. 3 slightly credible websites posting stories citing "reliable" sources, yet no word from anyone official, and now some other man/woman is debunking the "reliable" info? Is this all just an elaborate prank?

gary can barely shit on his own. i doubt he can perform. last time I spoke to him, he thought i was Gandhi.

no way. the only decent artist on drag city is death. and their album was made 30 years beforehand.

matador. man, sales on the terror t re-issue are gonna be G. G for Genius.

tour starts in Australia in march

Pavement sucks . I like Billy Squier and other dudes who rock at the festivals. I'm sick of all you indie liberals who listen to KEXP and save animals and stuff...

Long live anyone who isn't lame and will play for chips at the Washington State Casinos!

Screw the animals and the planet and the trees and stuff...long live the rock of the ages!

F YEAH!

Nigel Tufnel

6:07 is troll

tix on sale tomorrow:

http://www.crookedrain.com/

"i know folks that work for summerstage and now the rumor is, since the news leaked, shows not happening.. just what i heard.. honest.. good sources.."

not true

"tix on sale tomorrow:"

true!

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/09/pavement_reunio_1.html

@ 1:27 AM

Death are great, but get a grip. Drag City has tons of great stuff you f**ck

Just some blatant promotions of an old, yet always relevant, interview with Malkmus.

http://blog.indiepit.com/2009/09/17/from-the-vault-stephen-malkmus-on-pavement-breakup-reunion-and-mc-hammer/

Superchunk has to open one of these nights.

"FOUR nights at Summerstage? No."

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/09/fourth_pavement.html

built to spill does five nights in a row at terminal 5, this is entirely possible

Believe it when Ticketmaster has the tickets for sale, but they are sold out already! but it is still freaking true! hell yeah!

HOLY SHIT THIS IS REALLY EXCITING

I like what Stephen Malkmus did on the tour bus- put his coat over his head.
I would have done that too.
I think that when the pressure of being around eachother and forcing yourself to be close friends for ten years in that whole atmosphere
I would do that too. Or, I would travel seperately.
Here is what I would do to keep the dream alive:
1)EVerybody is allowed side projects with NO breaking up, just hiatuses however long.
Like friends.
2)Tour seperate from the others if you are NATURALLY severely depressed. In a seperate bus, on a motorcycle, on a ten speed, on a train whatever. Plan it out. The whole band is allowed this luxury of seperation.
3)Show up for ALL rehearsels. Stay in a seperate hotel, motel, tent, whatever.
4)Hang out with them for jamming , talking, whatever for a long time at least once a week. COnnect on a regular basis even if it hurts.

After people have discovered magic together and it comes naturally to them- they are magic.
They should always allow themselves to be magic again.

Well that would just own, id love to see them play. I bet they are still very much in the game and i would just love to see a reunion!

This seems to be very exciting.

Aw, I wish I could go. Too bad I didn't hear about it sooner.

Are there going to be any more reunions in the future?

The only Pavement show that sold out in NYC was the one in support of the Matador 10th anniversary party. They never sold too many tickets.

Yay! I love Pavement!

If I had a man crush, it would be on Stevie Malkumus because he is awesome!!!

We always knew this fucking day would come. It's been a fun ride. Thanks to Goner and everyone who helped us along the way. The cover band/name origin questions are dealable at this point, but it seems like 2010 will be a lot harder to get through.

Look for an announcement from us soon. Obviously this isn't the last word.

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Reunion is always something special that brings in lots of old memories and nostalgia.
But very few could attain the height after re-union as the flow that they were in once, no longer seems to come-back.
Anyway, est of luck to the "Pavement".

16 hours later still waiting for "reliable sources" as opposed to "the same people who talk about this every year six months before Coachella"

if they haven't spoken up by now, they're not reliable sources.

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pavement's a good band. Slanted and Enchanted is their best. Crooked Rain is pretty good. Malkmus is talented. Check out his solo stuff with The Jicks.

Personally, I think SummerStage is a dump but what are you gonna do?

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Summerstage is where its at. Bring on the reunion.

Very well written article indeed, thank you so much for sharing such information with us.

The only Pavement show that sold out in NYC was the one in support of the Matador 10th anniversary party. They never sold too many tickets.

I like what Stephen Malkmus did on the tour bus- put his coat over his head.
I would have done that too.

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I really like the reunion that is. I know nothing regarding where they will play. I love the Pavement records but I never walked away from a Pavement show thinking that I had seen anything close to good.

Many of us don't know about this event. Your post is helpful in this case. it will help people know about such nobel events and will create awareness.

I have a reliable source who has informed me that Pavement will be playing Bonnaroo!

Stereo "Pavement" is my favorite song by them by far, I know it's not as popular as some of the other songs by them, but its amazing.