Posted in music on October 13, 2009

Hope Sandoval

Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions kicked off their second NYC show in three days much like they did the first, with the song "Blanchard" and with not enough vocals in the speakers. By song three, an early highlight ("Courtin Blues"), the sound was better. Hope's vocals were coming through loud and clear. I wasn't as close to the stage as I was at Music Hall, so maybe my perspective was different, but the Manhattan crowd seemed way happier to be there than the Brooklyn crowd. The cheers seemed louder and more in line with the return of someone who we haven't seen in seven years. Song four was "Willow" and all signs pointed towards a great show. The projections, though exactly the same at Music Hall, were maybe even better because Bowery Ballroom seemed to have a bigger screen.

Then, 3.5 songs in, all of a sudden the music stopped. Hope couldn't hear herself in the monitors. Some audience members, possibly misunderstanding the problem, started screaming that it sounded great. They weren't lying and it didn't help. Hope continued to stand there. She was growing increasingly frustrated as she expected someone to make it work again. She said she was sorry for embarrassing everyone, and mentioned that they had spent three hours soundchecking earlier in the day.

"It's OK Hope, we love you," someone screamed. "I'm on the verge of throwing a tantrum," Hope replied. Killing time, someone asked if she loved NY. Unexpectedly, Hope answered, "I absolutely fucking hate NY... but I love everyone who is here. I'm a country girl". She may have lost a few people there, and then she spoke again. It was definitely the most I've ever heard her talk on stage. "There's gonna be some heads chopped off... Sorry about this you guys," she said. Someone else yelled, "We love you Hope". Then next thing you know, faster than you can say Fiona Apple, Hope made one final frustrated gesture forward, and then stormed off the stage. Her confused band followed soon after.

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Unsure if she would ever came back, we stood and waited as a sound guy tested things. Then we waited some more, and some more. After what may have been 20 minutes (and with now a few less people in the room), Kevin the bouncer came on stage to thank everyone for waiting and let us know that she was coming down, though I could have sworn he said "calming down". A minute later there she/they were, and the show began again with "Around My Smile". The song features a lot of xylophone, and a not-actually-smiling Hope banged away at it. The back of her head was to the crowd as she sang the chorus, "I've got it going, I've got it going, I've got it going..." Thankfully, she did have it going again.

Between the NY comment and the meltdown, I think she lost some fans, but I'm very forgiving, and anyway, it made it all that much more interesting. Oh, and the no-picture rule was still very much in effect, though it didn't seem to be as much of an issue as it was at Music Hall. I was told by the person at the ticket counter not to take any pictures, and the signs on the wall said the same (see above), but I didn't really see any security going nuts. Maybe that's because nobody was really breaking the rule.

After "Smile" came "Charlotte", and then "Wild Roses" which I think was when she became herself again (facing the crowd even). "Wild Roses", which first appeared on an Air France compilation in 2008, and then again on the new album, was a highlight of the night. From there they went into "Trouble". It's another great one on the new album, and the closest we got to a duet, as they really feature male back-up vocals prominently in the live version.

As I said before, I loved the visuals, and though each song's video accompaniment could get its own paragraph, for some reason the projected images during "Blue Bird" (the song after "Trouble) especially stuck with me. Hope, always channeling Velvet Underground, and looking especially waifish herself lately, sings the lyrics, "Is that the devil in your face", as a giant closeup of a Twiggy/Nico-looking model face is projected behind her. From there it was the hit "Susanne", and finally "For the Rest of Your Life", the first of two extended psychedelic jams of the evening that had me thinking of The Doors.

Encore time. It was the same exact setlist as Saturday, so I knew they would probably return for two more songs, but we kind of already got an encore, and it was almost midnight thanks to all the delays (and it was Monday night). Would they come back? On Saturday the encore break was "someone's going to the bathroom" long, and this time was no different, except this time at least half of the audience didn't wait to find out. Eventually, the band came back though, and they were with what seemed to be a suddenly happier Hope ("I like your hair do" she told someone she recognized in the crowd) (update: that may have been sarcasm. see comments).

They closed the night with "Satellite" and "Feeling of Gaze" (the second long jam of the night). The crowd was now smaller, but I think it was full of those who were most happy that Hope was back after all these years, and who knew that it might be 2016 before we hear from her (possibly with a mood swing or two) again.

Dirt Blue Gene was the opener (which I completely missed this time) and most of the backing band. The tour continues tonight (10/13) at First Unitarian Church in Philly.

Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions - Bowery Ballroom setlist
Hope Sandoval

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Comments (150)

Right before she commented on the hairdo, she said "Did someone boo me?" And them mentioned something like "whoever you are get the hell out of here" jokingly.
Saw her also at the Music Hall on saturday, and I thought the people clapping for an encore was much lackluster than this.

Posted by Darkness | October 13, 2009 3:24 AM

1. how cool is seeing a show without those dozens of annoying hands up in the air with those damn blue screens phone cameras in your face !!!

2. kudos to spencer for the brilliant visuals !!

Posted by ajaxson | October 13, 2009 3:31 AM

If you cant make it here you cant make it anywhere...unless its vegas.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 5:18 AM

So annoying. Seriously.

Fuck off, Hope Sandoval...and your sleepytime bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 5:37 AM

crazy + hot = "JACKPOT"

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 7:34 AM

tl, dr

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 7:41 AM

You lucky bastards, I would have tolerated any tantrum just to hear her say "I love you guys" and to actually hear her joke around and shit.

Both shows I went to were resplete with 1-2 thank yous and maybe a thanks for coming.

Frere jones needs to get his head out of his pompous ass. She finished the fucking show. Oh the age of Twitter and blogs.

With this review you became my new hero BV. Thanks.

Posted by Chicagoan | October 13, 2009 7:52 AM

Up, that's how it went down. The difference between your post and mine is that I have pictures of cake.

Posted by MusicSnobbery | October 13, 2009 7:56 AM

She had already started the show almost half hour later than scheduled, which isn't all that unusual these days unfortunately. Then after she stormed off the stage, she was gone for another twenty minutes at least, even though the problem seemed to have been fixed in a few minutes and there was no one on stage for quite a while. A lot of people had left and some people were booing before she came back. She had no right to make people wait that long, who paid to see her perform on a week night. I know some people have nothing to do, but a lot of us have to put in money and time we barely have to see artists we like. Actually all the "forgiving" fans, who cheered when she came back, annoy me more than she does. Why all the blind worshipping for artists who treat their audience like shit? Why do you value yourselves this poorly? She should have been booed off the stage and refunds should have been offered.

I've been a fan of other perfectionist artists, who made scenes during shows and none of them bothered me as much as she did last night. She acted extremely spoiled and was disrespectful to her fans and the crew there. I have followed her music since the beginning of Mazzy Star, but now I am done with her. She can go to hell for all I care.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 7:56 AM

It's not about "low self esteem" it's the fact that she pops up once every 10 years then disappears again. for something this rare and infrequent it's perfectly understandable that a lot of people were willing to put up with the tension. As BV said, who knows when she'll resurface again. 2016?

So yeah you may be done with her but I doubt she really gives a shit anyway. Bye.

Posted by Chicagoan | October 13, 2009 8:16 AM

I thought even with the tantrum over the sound, it was still a wonderful show. I remember the New Pornographers show there a few years (eek) back and Neko Case was having problems with the sound and instead of just stopping was pouty the rest of the night.

I wish they would have played "Fall Aside," but I agree with BV that the projections were lovely and there really is no one else out there like her.

btw...loved when people were shouting at Colm to play MBV songs when Hope had walked off.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 8:35 AM

"'Did someone boo me?'"

I was saying BOO-rns.

Posted by Hans Moleman | October 13, 2009 8:53 AM

"I was saying BOO-rns."

Awesome reference, FTW!

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 8:56 AM

She's right about one thing.
NYC sucks hard

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:00 AM

Who doesn't, "absolutely fucking hate NY" from time to time?..

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:01 AM

Dear Anon 9:00am,

Go fuck yourself.

Love,
City Boy

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:03 AM

How precious... and so very not quirky! C'mon, Hope, you're a torchbearer of Generation Quirky! This is not quirky behavior!

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:06 AM

Today, no photography allowed.
Tomorrow, no tweeting during the show.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:06 AM

Agree with 7:56. The Williamsburg show was disappointing as well. She has made some good music, but not good enough to justify that behavior. 43 years old and throwing tantrums. Her cold persona and perfunctory stage presence ruined it for me. After the last dirge, I left uninspired. Bye Hope, I mean Despair.

Say, does anyone know when the Brian Jonestown Massacre plays NYC next?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:08 AM

^^^Hopefully soon, the last show with Matt Hollywood was awesome

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:17 AM

Whow the hell is she anyway???!! Yeah, I heard that Mazzy Star song. Great little ditty to play on mixtapes, but...where the hell has she been for 20 years?!?

You guys need to start listening to the Obits or Negative Approach or something. grow some balls.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:24 AM

when most artists act like that, you get the feeling they have big egos or want attention. In this case, it seems like she has real psychological issues. so she should be given a lot of slack.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:25 AM

DivMEH....

Kendra Smith would have never pulled that bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:39 AM

would someone snap some pictures of this bitch already... jeez.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:41 AM

visuals were sick !!!!

Posted by emahn R | October 13, 2009 9:42 AM

FLASH MOB IN PHILLY TONIGHT!!!

At 10:01pm, every take out your camera and shoot away...flash preferred!

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:48 AM

See, I'm just the opposite. I absolutely fucking love New York City--it's the people I abhor.

Posted by a cool, collected misanthrope | October 13, 2009 10:04 AM

the blame and anger for the storm off and delays should go to the fucking soundcrew for fucking up
if she cant hear herself who can blame her for stopping wtf amateur hour at the bowery??? its not market hotel fucking get it together

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:12 AM

maybe she was tired from the 3-hour long soundcheck..

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:14 AM

maybe she was tired from blowing Aroid

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:24 AM

I go see her of she played "Fade Into You" 15 times in a row, and then started cutting herself while crying.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:32 AM

A real showman - Ray Davies at Town Hall on Nov. 19-20. Presale with Citi credit card now on Ticketmaster.

Posted by drewo | October 13, 2009 10:35 AM

shes fucking old

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:35 AM

she might be old... but she is still fucking hot!

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:37 AM

i listened to hope all though jr. high, highschool and into college & always loved her music. huge fan.

with all that said, i felt the show at bowery was on the bummer side of things.

first of all, the implications made by the "no picture taking" signs hung up all over the venue were pretty clear from the start. i felt guilty, already making assumptions about hope's personality before she even hit the stage.

then she finally came onto the stage 30 minutes late, just to storm off after 3.5 songs because of a sound issue. awesome! this only worked to confirm some of the notoriety surrounding her stage attitude.

considering it's hope sandoval -- yes she's shy and nervous and precious -- i guess all of this is acceptable, but then throw in an "i absolutely fucking hate new york" comment & and suddenly i'm completely alienated from her music -- go back to LA bitch!

granted, there were transcendent moments in which hope sounded incredible & completely owned the performance. however, when she returned back to the stage, i had lost my connection to the sense of mystery and awe that is so painstakingly cultivated with all the low lighting/no photos twaddle. i left after 2 more songs.

re-emerging 90s rockstars need to come to terms with the idea that self-seriousness is no longer very convincing. especially in new york city, my beautiful home that i love much, much more than any dusty old mazzy star records.

Posted by Clay | October 13, 2009 10:39 AM

Colm Ó Cíosóig was essential in getting Hope through the gig. When she did eventually come back out, she turned her back to the audience and just locked eyes with Colm. It was fascinating to watch his eyes during the song. He was like the Horse Whisperer. It also seemed to help when he sat next to her for acoustic guitar. At the end of the night he acknowledged the remaining crowd with a wave. You never got the sense that she pulled it together, but only that she was holding on and couldn't wait for it all to end.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:45 AM

how do we know if shes still hot no one can take any pictures of her?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:45 AM

Dinosaur Sr.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:49 AM

she was waiting to cash the check from the gig. i agree with the earlier poster, why reward shitty artist behavior. shes not that good. why watch and put up with this shit? theres a reason she hasnt played in forever. if you cant take the heat, get off the stage

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:52 AM

go back to the country, ya CUNT

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:53 AM

ease on the sound dudes brah, they borrowed the PA from Todd P

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:56 AM

It takes a numbnut Chicagoan to defend this woman, who is so ugly inside. Artists who don't give a shit about anybody listening to their music don't release albums and go on tour. Get a clue.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 11:01 AM

Hope and Chan = same shit. Whispering in rock clubs backed by rock bands wondering why they can't be heard. Lets throw a fit and blame the sound guys for not being able to shine hammered dogshit.

Posted by knowsmorethanyou | October 13, 2009 11:28 AM

i don't see how anyone can defend this sort of behavior. while waiting for the band to come back on, I was talking to a guy who came all the way from connecticut and another from westchester. on a monday night! as a performer it's your responsibility to entertain the audience and to handle any shit that comes your way. not every performance is going to be perfect, but at least respect your fans that made an effort to support you. i'm sorry but she's an ungrateful bitch.

Posted by Jessica | October 13, 2009 11:38 AM

10:45 -- because some of us saw her in the flesh... and she was VERY hot.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 11:39 AM

OH THE OUTRAGE! It seems like every 10 years a new generation of Mazzy/Hope fans forgets that this is just what she does. If you can live with it, great. If not, don't go, but realize it's not going to make a difference because she's been doing these sorts of things at shows for YEARS and people STILL GO again and again.

The angry tantrums have been a staple of her performances since her early days with mazzy star. Don't believe me? Go to DIME, there's a show up there right now from 1990 where the sound is bad, the crowd yells at her to let her know it's bad, she stops the show, responds "you guys are full of shit," and walks off stage. Roback tries to get her to come back out by starting the riff for "Blue Flower," but she is done for the night. This is before she's famous too, pre fade into you.

She did the same thing in '94 at show in toronto i think.

And then the infamous 2002 boston show where she got into the fight/cussing match with the crowd.

It's just how she is, and how she likely will always be. You guys are sitting here saying "I'm done with her" but the funny thing is that if this kind of behavior has been the staple with her for over 20 years, and people still go, I don't think the people who go to see her shows care if she throws tantrums or not.

Posted by Chicagoan | October 13, 2009 11:49 AM

Agreed Anon.756am.

People have a tendency to excuse putting up with such nonsense- because? Just excuses. I admit, as a long time fan, that they're definitely good, she's good. She hasn't had much competition in her realm of creations through the years. But to come to NYC, and bash it right in your fans faces is pitiful character, not to say that she then excused it with being a "country girl" ... really? What the hell does that have to do with anything? Then don't tour, don't come to NY- no one feels bad for your situation amiga.

And as a side note, can I ask what musicians did when there weren't monitors they could hear themselves through? More excuses for silly stage behavior.

There are way too many amazing artists out there that don't pull this type of nonsense- keeping it somewhat real. If anything, it made for entertaining drama and yeah, that feeling or "connection" that Anon. 1039 refers to is, in fact, lost bc she exposed her self. Even more of a surprise is feeling this way about her day after the show.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 11:52 AM

hey mazzy star- blow me

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:03 PM

Years from now, when they demolish Fenway Park, perhaps Hope can perform at the final show at this venue. Kind of like the final shows at Shea and Giants. It would be the perfect way to cap-off and commemorate underachieving New York-hating whiners everywhere.

Posted by inside baseball | October 13, 2009 12:07 PM

No, Chicagoan, a lot of people don't go to see her anymore. Barely selling out one of the smallest and best venues in NYC is not an accomplishment for a singer/songwriter, who had the career that she had. Yesterday afternoon, tickets were still available on Ticketmaster and the show was not that crowded. And don't give me the "she does not care" crap. If she did not care, she would have disappeared off the face of the earth like Connie Converse did, instead of still releasing albums and touring. At least Connie left some great music behind and did not burden people with her mental problems.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:22 PM

Chicagoan, please stop before you disgrace your city any further. It doesn't take a historian to poke holes in your "people do it so it must be good" argument.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:22 PM

Someone needs to throw something at her. Then, hopefully...she'll start to cry.

That would be entertainment.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:34 PM

If Perry Farrell can continue and finish a set having just torn a ligament in his leg, Hope Sandoval could have certainly waited onstage 2 more minutes while someone put fresh batteries in the battery pack of her ear monitor without stomping off like a two year old. And yes, in the end, that's basically what it boiled down to needing new batteries!

While I understand that she is nearly agoraphobic, her behavior was extremely unprofessional. If someone is that uncomfortable performing in public, then they should discontinue touring.

Posted by Angel of the Waters | October 13, 2009 12:38 PM

Part of the problem is that the Warm Inventions songs are not very compelling. Three great Mazzy Star records had me going in with high expectations, even though I am unable to connect to the new albums. The Williamsburg performance was good, but the letdown was inevitable.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:40 PM

how does someone with THAT much stage fright become a performer? yeah...it's all an excuse to act like a child, "i have horrible stage fright, so the slightest thing sends me into a frenzy. i can't be held responsible for my behavior when i'm in that state." poor hope. and the no camera policy? simply to prevent videos of such tirades from hitting youtube after every concert. catching glimpses of her band off stage, the looks on their faces weren't, "what's going on?" they were, "*sigh* not again." disappointing evening.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:41 PM

Did anyone witness the guy they had to kick out for taking photos with his camera phone?

Security came over once and asked him to stop and when they walked away he just continued as if no one asked him to stop. When they came back he refused to leave and proceeded to sit on his knees and then crawl around the floor. Eventually they got another security guy to escort him out. Guy looked like he was on another planet...

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:45 PM

i hope she doesn't try to pull that "i hate this town" madness in philly tonight. dudes out there ain't havin' that sort of behavior.

new yorkers are way too nice. maybe someone should have yelled back at her to go fuck herself the instant she started in with her insults. i imagine there would have been a bit of giggling, a long awkward silence and then the rest of the crowd would have joined in booing her bitch-ass off one of our city's most beloved stages.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:47 PM

dude at 12:47 I agree with you 100%. If I was there there would have been some serious booing andheckling. what kind of thing is that to say? good riddance, and I hope she NEVER EVER come back to the greatest city in the world, NEW YORK CITY. And in conclusion - fuck you!!! I hope you read this Hope, the cat is out of the bag!

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 12:57 PM

1247 - exactly... a solid "go fuck yourself" to shake a bit of reality into that silly facade of hers... bc now it is a facade more than anything mysteriously genuine.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:09 PM

what ? new york does fucking suck?

Posted by james | October 13, 2009 1:31 PM

new york doesn't suck just the fucking people.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:41 PM

the art of human nature, isn't it lovely.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:42 PM

who gives a fuck about yet another primadonna singer songwriter who thinks she's the shit

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:43 PM

she maybe 43 but i would toss her salad any fucking day.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:43 PM

the nature of human art, lovely it isn't.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:44 PM

When someone hates New York, the terrorists win.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 1:54 PM

can i get more bitch in the monitor?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 2:00 PM

Now we know why Hope can't keep a man..

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 2:01 PM

Mope Rantoval

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 2:02 PM

she hasnt a stable career, whooptee doo she can do 3 shows in NYC and piss off half the audience. she'll go away for 10 years again, hope people forget and then do the same all over again, thanks to one song. if she actually could hack doing live gigs she would be performing more and make a lot more money and music. there's a reason shes no longer relevant, look in the mirror hope

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 2:07 PM

shes huge in Denmark

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 2:10 PM

My dick is huge in Denmark.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 2:50 PM

I love Hope Sandoval. She's dreamy.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 3:04 PM

I just yawned 74 times.

Posted by Rocky Napoli | October 13, 2009 3:12 PM

she should go on SNL

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 3:12 PM

She's not hot, her music is boring, her biggest hit was a song on ANGUS, just give it a rest already.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 3:53 PM

you are boring 3:53

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:00 PM

I was at the Bowery show last night and was standing right up front at the beginning of the set when Hope had her "tantrum" and stormed off. Her in ear monitors were too low and she couldn't hear herself sing even though the audience could. She seemed pretty tense the first three songs and kept messing with her in ear monitors and turning to the soundguy to tell him to raise the level of her vocals. She wound up stopping the fourth song because she simply couldn't hear herself singing.

The soundguys could have fixed the problem faster. There were multipe wedge monitors in front of her. Turn the fucking vocals up in the wedges, throw out the in ear monitors, and continue with the show. It's not rocket science. In ear monitors are for Kelly Clarkson at the Super Bowl halftime show, not Bowery Ballroom.

Posted by Albert Dente | October 13, 2009 4:07 PM

hey, joe sound engineer. wanna cookie?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:15 PM

where does hope live now? in the country? what country?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:18 PM

Hey 4:18..Stalk much?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:39 PM

bowery sound guys suck, ask neko

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:50 PM

What did you say.....How much were these sandals dont ask?????? Ohhhhhhh Hope Sandoval sucks ass .......thats more like it

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:52 PM

do people at least get a refund?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:53 PM

Am I supposed to feel bad that I've never heard of this band, nor do i give an asscrack? No? good.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 4:59 PM

the sound guy will sell you some ditch weed next time you are there while he is busy not putting more vocals in the monitors, theres your fucking refund

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 5:01 PM

5:01, just watch Angus, apparently

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 5:17 PM

She had to run offstage to go shoot up. Bad smack habit acquired when she was hooked up with William Reid of the JAMC.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 5:32 PM

"where the hell has she been for 20 years?!?"

Time flies by when you're on the nod....

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 5:33 PM

Hope lives in Los Angeles where the sun shines every day, the sound guys don't suck ass, and everyone is good looking.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 6:03 PM

truth is, she didn't even do the one song she's best known for.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 6:12 PM

"truth is, she didn't even do the one song she's best known for."

What song is that? If you mean something by Mazzy Star then you are clueless.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 6:32 PM

"What song is that? If you mean something by Mazzy Star then you are clueless."

you mean she's better known by something other than fade into you?

seriously doubt that, ye clueless one.

and last.fm agrees: http://www.last.fm/music/Mazzy+Star

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 7:01 PM

LA is not the country and didn't she say she is a country girl?

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 8:10 PM

And that is the reason I asked where she lives now

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 8:12 PM

she does heroin?!? (5.32)

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 8:24 PM

8:24 - yeah, of course she does heroin, which is why she looks so freaking hot even at the age of 43 and her voice is as stellar as ever.

Surely you've seen what H does to the looks of musician junkies and their voices? Exhibit A - Kurt D Cobain, circa 6/92, then circa 2/94. Exhibit B - Elliott Smith, circa 8/2001 - 5/2002

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 8:46 PM

some of you are way too defensive of new york. She said she hated new york but specifically said afterwards "but i love all of you". People are allowed to dislike new york. ny is obviously not for everyone. some people dont want to live on top of each other. Treating her comment like she made a personal attack against you and everything you stand for is pretty retarded.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:35 PM

it has nothing to do with liking nyc -it was an obnoxious comment for her to make

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:44 PM

I want to live on top of Hope.

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 9:48 PM

I found some comments on a audio professional board

http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/index.php?t=rview&goto=480829&th=50065

Posted by Anonymous | October 13, 2009 10:21 PM

Do you stupid Hipsters have any idea what you are talking about? The first song after Hope's tantrum was Lose Me on The Way. This was not the same set as Brooklyn. She did not play Around My Smile at this show. The words "I've got it going on" do not appear in Around My Smile. Listen or look it up. I don't think your in any position to write reviews, considering you don't even know Sandoval's music very well.

Posted by fuckhipsters | October 13, 2009 11:50 PM

Hope is a big-time smackhead. Mazzy Star is heroin music if I've ever heard it. Perfect music for being on the nod.

Posted by Anonymous | October 14, 2009 12:07 AM

"The first song after Hope's tantrum was Lose Me on The Way. This was not the same set as Brooklyn. She did not play Around My Smile at this show. The words "I've got it going on" do not appear in Around My Smile."

Oh really?
http://www.hopesandoval.com/music/lyrics.shtml

and see the setlist above. Do you know what you're talking about?

Posted by brooklynvegan | October 14, 2009 12:16 AM

i cant believe that prick reid dumped her, thats pretty telling if that sullen fuck couldnt put up with her.

Posted by Anonymous | October 14, 2009 12:28 AM

"some of you are way too defensive of new york. She said she hated new york but specifically said afterwards "but i love all of you". People are allowed to dislike new york. ny is obviously not for everyone. some people dont want to live on top of each other. Treating her comment like she made a personal attack against you and everything you stand for is pretty retarded."

finally someone who isn't blowing this WAY out of proportion. what's with people acting like she just randomly told everyone she hates ny. someone ASKED HER if she loves it. she gave an honest response. if the only acceptable response to "do you love ny?" is yes, then why even ask? it's "cool" to hate los angeles, but god forbid anyone dislike new york city. it's just a city, losers. why are you taking it as a personal insult?

i also find it appalling that people say things like, "if she's borderline agoraphobic, then she shouldn't tour." oh, so you should just let fear take over your life and stay home? i'm sure most people who leave these comments don't have experience with performing live & don't understand the frustrations of sound problems. the fact that she even came back out after that despite how obviously hard it is for her to perform live, proves that she DOES care about her fans.

Posted by Anonymous | October 14, 2009 9:26 AM

we still love you

Posted by Anonymous | October 14, 2009 10:58 AM

I think I'll echo the voices of reason at the end of this thread of hipster outrage by also adding that regardless of her anger and rage, I too still love Hope and will continue to attend her shows wherever she can have them.

I don't go to concerts to get my ego stroked, I go to hear someone perform, and that's exactly what she did. If her insulting your "beloved city" offends you that much then you have bigger problems, because she said "she loved you guys."

So no problems from me. Sounds like the Philly show was amazing last night, from the tweets I am seeing.

Posted by Chicagoan | October 14, 2009 1:28 PM

Hope is a sound person's nightmare. Even for the best sound crews in the world.

Basic physics - loudest thing into the microphone WINS.

She is whispering into the mic, in the midst of a bunch of loud instruments on stage.

The best soundperson and sound equipment in the world cannot fix that problem. That a problem her and her band need to fix.

Quite blaming the sound company for something that is not their fault.

Posted by Anonymous | October 14, 2009 5:17 PM

i love and hate nyc at the same time, but one thing is different from hope and me though, i actually really truly hate all of you :) i cant stand the site of you and hope you all be quiet if you love me.....lol

Posted by brooklynshow | October 14, 2009 6:30 PM

We will gladly accept her back in LA since New Yorkers don't want her!

Did anyone of you whiny critics (probably native New Yorkers)think that she was frustrated because the sound crew fucked up the show she wanted to give to her FANS? Someone who gets near stage fright was still able to pull it together and continue YOUR show, you should be so lucky.

Not every show can be perfect, but what is near perfect is the return of HOPE. For the rest of us who have witnessed amazing shows over the past month or so from The Inventions, don't care about hiccups in NYC. We are willing to sit through a long awaited encore, because we've been waiting 8 years to see her rush up on stage again! Anyone who finds themselves impatient at her shows, should have stayed home and watched American Idol...

Posted by Chris | October 15, 2009 11:48 AM

it amazes me what people will tolerate. this woman would be eating paste in the corner of some special bus if she didn't have that beautiful voice. either that or her snobby attitude would have gotten her popped in the mouth long ago. sure, everybody has a problem with NY... but you don't crack on NY when you're in NY and people from NY are paying money to keep you out of the crazy house. hope was and is pathetic. i'd say her actions broke my heart as i once held her in such esteem... but at this point i don't know if i should slap or or point and laugh at her. i walk past animals in cages in the zoo and feel bad for them- hope and her little girl voice and actions arouse zero pity in me after her "performance.' she's in her own silly cage, and i made up my mind, she's one big joke. i'm pointing and laughing.

Posted by Anonymous | October 15, 2009 10:25 PM

11:48 - how could I watch american idol when its not on!

Posted by Anonymous | October 16, 2009 12:36 AM

Hope Sandoval we love you and your music new york mazzy star will be touring again

Posted by gerard kent | October 16, 2009 10:43 AM

This is hilarious.

10:25 - if she "was and is pathetic," then you're even more pathetic for wasting your time ranting about it here, or even wasting your hard earned cash to go see her. You may be pointing and laughing at her, but she's pointing and laughing right back at you since you are lining her pockets with some good earned cash.

Seriously, don't go next time so others who heard her properly ("I love you guys") can get a better spot.

Posted by Chicagoan | October 16, 2009 1:55 PM

she is definitely NOT on smack and is against hard drugs.

Posted by Anonymous | October 16, 2009 4:15 PM

yeah, you'd be nothing... if it weren't for you possessing a great talent.

thanks, idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | October 16, 2009 4:26 PM

speaking of making a city look bad.. all of this from the new yorkers has left a serious bad taste in my mouth... luckily she is heading south where people are courteous and appreciate great talent when it graces their stages.. new york is the spoiled one here, not hope...

she is a genuinely wonderful person and she does tuck herself away in the country, i would too with the likes of people like most of you here spewing your wrath.... i feel sorry for people like you and consider myself most intelligent for choosing to live on the opposite side of this continent, where the sun is shining outside and we reflect that.

take your bashing elsewhere more constructive and possibly learn something from someone, anyone.

Posted by Anonymous | October 16, 2009 7:45 PM

Everyone is "against hard drugs" when they talk to the media, especially those who are on them at the time. Hopeless and William Reid were total smackheads.

Posted by Anonymous | October 16, 2009 8:00 PM

7:45 - "consider myself most intelligent for choosing to live on the opposite side of this continent"

I don't really want to defend anyone who is blowing this all out of proportion, but please buddy just shut the fuck up. California may be a nice place to live, but don't tell me living in LA makes you smarter.

Yes, as someone who genuinely likes NY most of the time, hearing someone whose music I love and I paid money to see say she fucking hates it here, to hear that hurts.

On the other hand, she came back out and finished the show. She gave a great show two days before that in Brooklyn. She gave a great show at Bowery seven years ago, which I went to as well. And her solo albums are both good.

Maybe she doesn't tour often enough to get that saying she hates the city she's playing in is not exactly polite to her fans. Maybe she genuinely does hate NY. That's fine. Sometimes I do to. But she shouldn't make me feel bad for liking both her and my city.

I'll be at the next show if there is one.

Posted by Aaron | October 16, 2009 8:42 PM

throw hope off the bridge.

Posted by Anonymous | October 17, 2009 11:28 PM

"i feel sorry for people like you and consider myself most intelligent for choosing to live on the opposite side of this continent, where the sun is shining outside and we reflect that."

Yeah, LA's earthquakes must reflect California's need to get rid of stuck-up Hollywood losers like you. Go back to your horrible smog and overcrowded interstates.

Posted by Anonymous | October 17, 2009 11:41 PM

Having put up with her in 90, 94 and 01, I am glad I didn't waste my money to see the exact same tantrum AGAIN. At least her 97 appearance with the Chain went down well (she did "Sometimes Always" and "Just Like Honey" in LA). The best fights were the 94 ones, where her and the Reid brothers would get in fights practically every night. But the quotes from the 2001 Boston show were the best: "I don't need you to love me, I need you to shut the fuck up," and "If this glockenspiel isn't mic'd in five minutes, we're out of here."

And @Anonymous 9:39AM, Kendra Smith walked out of a whole freakin' TOUR (the last Opal tour). At least Hope never took it that far.

Posted by Rick | October 18, 2009 5:11 AM

"i feel sorry for people like you and consider myself most intelligent for choosing to live on the opposite side of this continent, where the sun is shining outside and we reflect that."

i live in sanfrancisco... and it does make me smarter. xoxo

Posted by Anonymous | October 18, 2009 7:44 PM

October 13, 2009 11:49 AM

What is DIME?

Posted by anony | October 18, 2009 11:17 PM

she can be annoying but the ny comment is a riot!

Posted by Shawn | October 19, 2009 12:55 PM

she went backstage to either do more coke/crack or shoot dope..it seemed obvious.

Posted by manny | October 20, 2009 8:22 PM

None of you whiners understand that Hope Sandoval is more rock'n'roll and more punk than 99% of the wannabe boring copycat pussies that try to pass as bands nowadays.

Posted by chrr | October 20, 2009 11:11 PM

This is too funny. Seems like these few new yorkers would rather spend money on some pop performer who will lie and be fake and say "yay, we love ny (or whatever city we're in)! woo-hoo" yet will probably be counting the money afterwards, laughing at the expense of their fans, mocking how silly they are for funding their lifestyle through the bullshit they churn out.
If all Hope wanted was money from the tour, she could lie too and say all the idiocies people expect. Many a megastar has cheat sheets telling her what city she should be saying "hello" to on any given night, because even if she cared she couldnt possible keep track. Hope, on the other hand, is the one with self-respect, who would sooner lose the retards in the audience as fans then conform to fake marketing procedures to advance her career.
And you only have yourselves to blame for having spent your money on it if this is not what you expected... There's enough info out there nowadays to know what you're getting into when you go see someone live. Who goes to a chinese restaurant and then goes rant on forums that they should get a refund because they paid for spaghetti - accusing the hunan king of being racists who should go fuck themselves because they don't have italian food on the menu ??? and that's, mind you, after being served the best chinese food in the world and being told you are loved as a customer....
And finally, take Marilyn Manson, he's out burning mormon bibles on stage in utah, is he any less popular? no, he's the opposite, but he actually exploits that market. At least what's refreshing about Hope is that she does not seem to put her efforts into business calculations. She focuses on what matters, the music, take it or leave it. And some of us love her for it.

Posted by fade | October 21, 2009 1:31 PM

amen sista!

xo sf

Posted by Anonymous | October 21, 2009 7:23 PM

who gives a fuck what city she loves? does it really matter? Are you an adult who can't handle the fact that someone might not have the same likes and dislikes as yourself? Seriously.

I have to be honest, though, I have been a lifelong fan and was disappointed, more in her attitude than anything else. She seemed mostly like a sullen child, but again, at age 43, though she may not look it (although with the strategic lights low, hair in the face NO PHOTO policy many wouldn't know she actually has aged- I was very near the stage. She looks really good, but she's not 25 anymore.)
she should at least be a consummate musician and deal with issues instead of storming off like a 5 year old. Obviously it left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths.

Posted by Anonymous | October 26, 2009 2:03 AM

she sounded perfect at the mayan last week and she didn't "whisper into the mic."

Posted by Anonymous | October 26, 2009 2:30 AM

hope. you suck and you need meds. and the fans that still love you suck too. amen.

Posted by Anonymous | November 1, 2009 8:13 PM

Hope, stop coming here and leaving comments about how great California is...LOL.

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 3:09 PM

Thank you to the few intelligent posts about the show and the artist. Especially helpful were
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/10/hope_sandoval_s.html#comment-461206
and
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/10/hope_sandoval_s.html#comment-461369

And kudos to the disappointed who, none-the-less, can express appreciation for the link between the human and the voice, admit they knew what they were getting into, and cut a little slack despite wishing they'd gotten a better show.

It's the shriveled dicks who feel spurned by a hottie and the bruised pride of insecure Nyorkers who are playing the selfish cry baby. So she doesn't like your city. Big deal. She came to sing, not to prop your geo-identity.

Leave commercial services entertainment to the mainstage performers. Too many of you failed to know your artist, wrongly seeking an escapist entertainment event.

Posted by Jonathan (not anonymous) | January 2, 2010 5:28 PM

Well said Jonathon however she's 43 not 23. At this point in her career one would think that she would have picked up a little profesionalism by now. Being a fan I'm disappointed when I hear about this kind of behavior. I would like to think that it's all show but I don't think that's the case. Lighten up, Hope. Enjoy the ride!

Posted by Lee | February 19, 2010 12:01 PM

I love this garbage by Chicagoan. With the economy as is, you think that a small time act like Hope coming to your city and putting up a mediocre act WHILE disrespecting your city is tolerable just because you enjoy her voice? Whipped much? Btw, she's out of your league.

Posted by Danny | June 1, 2010 1:23 AM

@Posted by Anonymous | October 26, 2009 2:03 AM

This is called the "COEXIST" mentality. Those stupid bumper stickers you see on cars are placed there by people who DO NOT co-exist well with ANYONE, unless of course you are in agreement with THEM.

Typical hpyocritcal BS.

Posted by Mike | July 13, 2010 9:36 AM

At this point in her career one would think that she would have picked up a little profesionalism by now. Being a fan I'm disappointed when I hear about this kind of behavior.

Posted by Giochi Gratis | October 10, 2010 11:17 AM

What a contrast this thread is to comments on You Tube videos of Hope's bands Mazzy Star & H.S.&T.W.I., including ones of her supposedly "boring" live shows! I've never seen such gushing admiration,affection, enthusiasm,& respect for a singer as Hope receives from You Tube viewers. Most comment-ers at YT are thoroughly beguiled & smitten by Hope
Sandoval,her voice,songs, & sweet,understated charisma. The venom spat by so many (thankfully not all)NY-ers here is unique & something less than flattering of people's attitudes in the Big Apple ("don't mind the maggots", Hope!). "A New York state of mind", eh? UGLY!

Posted by Hermesthecat | November 17, 2010 6:33 PM

Nothing but a true cunt with a very lovely voice. I've seen track marks on her arm so her attitude problem is obvious.

Posted by Anonymous | March 1, 2011 12:27 AM

did she show any tit?

Posted by Jerry Tindal | April 15, 2011 1:33 PM

she's like43 now right? maybe she's going through menopause.

Posted by itsmemike | January 12, 2012 4:25 PM

I don't understand why Hope Sandoval is being criticized so much for 'throwing a tantrum' when she was merely frustrated by the situation of the sound mixing being fucked up. Who wouldn't be frustrated? Yet, because she didn't just sit there and allow her music to be messed, she's talked about as if she is a child throwing a fit, or even worse, a 'cunt.' A man would never be talked about in the same way as 'throwing a tantrum' if he walked out on his show because his sound was off. Treat her with respect- she's a grown woman.

Posted by Anonymous | March 19, 2012 1:47 PM

Most of you may or may not have heard of the band, but she reminds me of the lead singer of Faith & Disease; same genre, same era, I saw them on tour in 2001 and she sulked through the set looking annoyed at the chatty crowd. Great music though. Has Mazzy Star played live yet? I wonder how those shows are.

Posted by Michelle | April 8, 2012 12:15 AM

She definitely used to do heroin. I don't know if she still does. She's set for life financially. Fade Into You made her millions. She doesn't absolutely have to tour. I think the record companies make her tour to support her recordings. She hates every minute of it.

She'll be a bitch when she's 85 years old too. That's just the way she is. It's not just sound guys and crowds she cusses out. It's everyone. Radio djs, tv people, interviewers, fans, bands she tours with. Everyone who comes into contact with her seems to have a horror story. I just read a story where the singer from Coldplay described Hope as "wicked". She's a self-centered bitch who can sing and write decent songs. You can either accept her as she is or not. Getting upset at Hope for throwing a tantrum is like getting mad at a cat for meowing. That's just what it does.

Posted by Mike | August 19, 2012 8:11 PM

Im so sad ive ive waited so long to see hope live.
Im a musician whos been a fan a long time. I moved
to the midwest and mazzy played in minneapolis last night...
Basically stand in a dark room in your house & play the cd.
Dont waste your money.sad but true.

Posted by Sammie | November 13, 2013 4:05 PM

I hate nyc, i hate cities
i AM a country man

go see beyonce retards

& FUCK YOU ALL

Posted by Rogerio Correia | January 12, 2014 8:53 AM

Native New Yorker here. From Howard Beach of all places. And, yeah, it does suck. Which is why we need Mazzy Star to carry us away in mind and spirit. Oh, is that your sandwich wrapper, Tony? Don't worry about that. Just toss it in the street.

Posted by Jon | April 6, 2014 12:36 AM

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