Hope Sandoval & The Warm Inventions played played Music Hall of Williamsburg (setlist & no pics!), play Bowery tonight

I wish more bands had the no photo policy.

hope is (or was?) pretty notorious for her terrible stage fright and almost paralyzing shyness. the no-camera rule is probably to keep her from running off the stage. i haven't seen her since 1994, when mazzy star were touring with the jesus & mary chain, but she looked so scared at that show that i almost cried. she needs hugs and cupcakes--just avert your eyes while you're offering them to her.

people need to learn practice some common courtesy when quiet music is playing. i wish more venues would enforce this. if you're going to see the clientele or postmarks or something, don't talk loudly like you're at a motorhead show for fuck's sake.

Quiet is the new loud!

if there are no photos it didn't really happen

it happened. I was there.

what..no Fade Into You?

I wish there were no photos allowed for the Gossip show..Those pictures of Beth Ditto almost made me lose my lunch.

pretty gal.

what a fucking mess!

Ironically most shows only allow photos for the first three songs anyway.
As far as the talking goes, this should be shown before all concerts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew3AOlbJXos

2nd video added to this post (thx J).

Jeff indeed does rock.

This girl is a moron. Over sensitive turd...

'to the corn'..?!

Good one.

In general, I'm guilty myself of snapping a few photos but I would be cool with more photography ban. It creates another layer between artist and audience. And many people can't control themselves around a camera. See every Pool Party show for evidence.

Anyone besides me buy the totebag?

fantastic show.

c'mon it's NYC-- SOMEBODY must've discreetly snapped a few secret cameraphone shots.

it's safe to say a large percentage of her audience is into the way she looks.

it was so dark you probably couldn't have gotten a decent camera phone shot anyway...

She enforced her own no photo rule as she didn't want any of those upskirt shots leaking onto the net!!!

thank you, hope, for the no-photo policy !!!
pro photogs should have first 20 min only,
crowd with their hands up throughout a show is a problem need to be dealt with.

Just shut up, you fucktards. You don't have anything interesting to say anyway. If you feel the need to yap, don't go to a show.

"pro photogs should have first 20 min only,"

No. There should no photographers, period. The pros are actually the worst since the front portion of the venue is reserved for them. Less pros, more rooms. Photos aren't really that important anyways. They will never come close to the feeling of being there. Live music should be, uh, live.

I have no problem with pro photographers..except for when they are shooting at a venue such as Bowery without a photo pit and push their way up to the front 5 minutes before showtime because they think they are better then the rest of us.

Yeah! Photodocumenting cool stuff is the worst!!

Get a grip, people. Such a bunch of sniveling, entitled little fuckheads.

A couple pictures are fine, it's the assholes who feel the need to hold their cellphones up over their heads for the entire show that should be beaten to bloody pulps.

the worst are those cell phones that have embedded flashlights.

oh, and while we're at it -- hey kids, you've got a blog and a digital slr. that's cool. go you. but that doesn't automatically entitle you to a photo pass at every goddamn show (at least it shouldn't), and further give you the ability to flash click-snap nonstop throughout an entire show, while pushing through the crowd to do so.

Loved Hope's set and understand the stage fright but if you have stage fright and play in the dark with your face covered for some songs. Why then are you searching the audience for people taking pictures or talking. If you watch Hope she spends half the time looking into the audience with her eyes squinted. At first I thought she just sings that way but after watching her all show it was obvious she was looking for people breaking her rules. She stormed to the back after a few songs to get security.

By the way Hope I got a picture of you, your security aint that great. :p

OMG, I was sooooo at this show. Though thanks to this stoopid no photo policy, you'd never know it. Don't even bother going to look for a photo on my Facebook of me at the show holding my drink while striking my "Party!" pose.
But anywho, one of my bffs took me.
I was like, "Never heard of the bitch, but whateves, I'll come along." Anyway I spent most of the show trying to explain to my bff Molly that I wasn't sure if Brian really really likes me. I mean, sure we've hooked up, but is it going anywhere? Anyways, it was really important that I get Molly's perspective on the whole thing, and I though the Hope show was the perfect place to do it, and if she was annoyed by my talking, I have news for her. I was annoyed by her music. You didn't see me wishing her to the corn. That is cold! That'll be the last time I go to talk at one of her shows.

whats up with the phonecalls to friends during concerts? people are turds.

4:09 is funny because it's true.

ummm, you wouldnt really have much of a blog if you didnt have photos. how many people are going to go to a blog site without photos? we're in an age where the more stimuli, the better. otherwise, you wont be able to hold an audience.

im a photographer, and i tend to agree - first 3 songs, first 20 minutes, whatever. that can generally be enough to capture what you want. as a photog, i kind of like the idea of limiting yourself to only shoot some...while still giving yourself an opportunity to enjoy the rest of the set without having to worry about taking the money shot. after all, that's why we're all there - the music

but - id have to say, after those 3songs/20mins...if you have your cam, and if you have a careful opportunity to rip a good shot with minimal/no disruption...then so be it. sometimes it takes a band 2 songs to warm up...or the lighting doesnt get insane until mid-set...whatever. but regardless - if you take that shot, show some respect.

ohh...that's the point...consideration.

im not sure it has to do so much with people with cameras - i think it's just that a lot of people are inconsiderate to those around them. some photogs do blow through crowds mid-song, and that is annoying...and it aint right. but the same is true with a drunk kid barreling through a crowd or the yelping frat boy next to you.

a thought not limited to this post, but - i think we'd all get along much better if we treated others with the same level of respect that we command in return.

Hummus Sandoval

You mean Hum-mehs Sandoval

This is fantastic, and I hope this policy spreads. Sitting behind some asshole with a camera is fucking terrible, and anything that'll piss off the people that google themselves after a show is fine by me.

Fuck cameras. Nobody cares that you were there. Really, they don't. Just go, listen to the music, and enjoy yourself. Is that really so hard? Nobody wants the stupid documentary evidence of your shitty cell phone pictures/videos.

>> how many people are going to go to a blog site without photos?

I would. I don't read BV for the photos. In fact, most of the time, I read the BV from the RSS feed, which has very few pictures. I just want to read about tour dates, set lists, and new albums. I don't care about the photos. I great with the people above, live music is about the moment. All the pictures in the world are not going to make a concert come back to life.

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SHITTY SOUNDING YOU TUBE VIDEOS? WE NEED DOCUMENTATION OF SHITTY SOUND, ITS WHAT I LIVE FOR

Does anyone else remember when they used to ban cameras at shows totally? back in the film days?

I kinda miss those days. The photograph everything thing is getting a bit obnoxious.

CLICK!

I just took a photo of this comment section.

All right, gotta go post it on my Facebook now.

Google ya' later.

Oh good lord people, calm down! Hope has an official photographer, Luz Gallardo (who also did the album promo pics) who takes some great pictures of the shows. She uploads pictures within a day or two after the concerts, and they turn out ten times better than anything any audience photog could hope to get because Hope lets her basically hop on the stage during the performances and take shots from wherever she wants, as close as she wants, whenever she wants.

You want to see the pics from the show?

http://www.hopesandoval.com/picfiles/2009tour.shtml
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=110627&id=91571366233

They'll be up there at either of those 2 places in a few days. Relax! Deep breaths!

Incidentally, at the Chicago show I attended I busted out my iphone to check a missed call inbetween the main set and the encore and got lectured by one of the flashlight wielding enforcers who thought it was a video camera. "Is that an LCD? No photography or recording, do you understand???" Thick british accent. Long hair. Running around a lot. Anyone run into this guy? I didn't bother to plead my case, just sighed and said OK.

her tour photographer sucks

Hope, as attractive as she is, has a bad case of pretentious-lead-singer-syndrome. Heaven forbid she actually acknowledges, or thanks the audience, and then runs offstage like an 8 year old when something "unexpected" happens like she used to do back in Mazzy Star. If you're not going to be professional, then go back to simplistic California and learn what a professional musician is before calling yourself one and "touring the country". Give her a few empty venues on this tour, and maybe she'll learn how to appreciate her dwindling audience.

hope sandoval and the warMEHnventions

Oh everyone is just getting militant about cameras because Hope is. If it causes a problem then let security address it. Otherwise why is it so important to nab anyone remotely suspected of having a camera? I remember when I happened to see the Raconteurs playing at a multi-show venue and one guy in the sea of people had a camera off to the side. So what does Brendon Benson do but stop mid song and call security on him while pointing him out like a despicable thief in the night. Get over yourselves musicians!

She totally stopped the show with three songs in and walked off stage saying she couldn't herself and that heads will roll. She eventually came back, but seriously, lose the attitude.

pre-madonna! i'd have booed her if I was there. lucky for u i wasn't.

She was getting booed at. I would say a good quarter of the crowd left before she came back on. By the time she came out for the encore I was more interested in seeing my pillow than her.

I think dislikes her fans. Maybe because she dislikes herself.

"pre-madonna!"

it's "prima donna", as in "first lady" as in the lead singer in an opera.
not "pre-madonna" as in "before ciccone" or "before jesus' mom".

i didn't see anyone near the front of the room leave during the technical difficulty/tantrum break, but people seemed a lot less interested in clapping and cheering for an encore than they were on saturday night. she didn't make us wait for as long for the encore though, but the tantrum break was more than long enough.

even i was disappointed and i fucking love the shit out of hope sandoval. i'm glad I saw saturday's show too, or i would have been pissed.

Photographers = talentless idiots who themselves are failed "musicians" who feel the uncanny need to desperately ensure that the spotlight stays on them in any way possible. They can fuck right off!!

1018 - you make no sense.

No, photographers are artists in the medium of the photograph as musicians are artists in the medium of sound. See the difference?

send them to the corner. corn just as good, i suppose.

I was also at the Chicago show and planned on taking photos but was told by the paranoid tour manager right before she went on that they wouldn't have been allowed and you know what...i wouldn't have gotten anything. If I were her hired photographer, I'd probably quit after the first night..no point, really. Cameras need some light for God's sake. And also, I mean what kind of sense does that make? You have stage fright and camera paranoia yet a hired photographer? That's like being deathly afraid of spiders and keeping a pet tarantula on tour. In other words it's bat@$&! crazy.

Oh I wanted to say a little bit about some of the anti camera comments. I think there's a time when it's a little obnoxious but at the same time most of the people doing the flashing and holding up of photographing objects that selfishly block everyone else aren't the people who have made an investment and are taking it seriously. They are the people who think iphones and point and shoots are the best and they'll keep flashing away until the last song is over. So please, when you talk about "photographers" please realize there's a huge range and difference between the respectful photog who loves music and is respectful and the guy who just thinks pizza and beer is cool on his blog and if there's a hawt chick on stage, that too.

what does "send them to the corn" mean

respect kirstiecat

hired photographer actually makes a lot of sense because then she can control what pictures get out.

there are more iphone photographers because there are more "regular" fans than "photogs". From the audience standpoint, if someone is holding up a camera and partially blocking your view, it makes no difference if its a "photog" who loves music or a guy that likes pizza and beer.

except a photog doesn't usually hail mary his/her camera to get a shot. unless said photog is just plain retarded.

I clearly heard Hope say "send them to the corner" not "corn". The Children of the Corn and Twilight Zone stuff here is silly, since it's based on a misunderstood remark.

"I clearly heard Hope say "send them to the corner" not "corn"."

I can believe that. Everyone near me and who i talked to after the show seemed to hear "corn", but "corner" definitely makes more sense.

I hope/wish it was "corn" though. That is so much better.

"pre-madonna"

wow. that is priceless.

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I don't see how you're going to be a performer and have stage fright and a crippling fear of cameras. If you can't get over that, find another way to make a living. There's a lot of publicity that comes with being a performer and you have to accept it.
Besides that, it sounds more like she has diva syndrome than stage fright. Throwing tantrums and storming off stage is a sure way to lose fanbase.
Fans taking pictures during a show is a problem. It ruins the experience if some idiot in front of you is holding up a camera the entire time. I like the "first three sets" rule. People like to take photographs. They've been doing it for a while. It's good memorabilia.
Also, the private photographer is a good idea. However, there is the issue of the lighting. A good percentage of those photos you can't even see Hope's face.
That's just my two cents. She's a great singer, and I like some of her songs. But I don't think I'm that big of a fan of her personality and I wouldn't pay to see her in concert.

No photo is this day and age. Almost sounds pre historic. I'm pretty sure soon all of us will have cameras for eyes. I think we already do.

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