Posted in music | tour dates on November 12, 2009

Bad Lieutenant

Hello, this is Ticketmaster Customer Service with an important alert for your upcoming event. Bad Lieutenant, scheduled at Webster Hall on Saturday, November 21, 2009, at doors 7:00 pm, has been cancelled.
Your credit card will automatically be credited the ticket price and convenience charges, and should post to your account within 7 to 10 business days. Please note, the $2.55 per order processing fee, any ticketFast, or UPS delivery charges and in-store pick up charges are non-refundable.
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Though nothing official has been announced by the band yet, I'm told it was due to visa issues which means their whole tour (aka 4 shows) must be cancelled. They were supposed to be opening for the Pixies at Hammerstein Ballroom and in Chicago.

This news comes exactly a week after we found out that fellow UK band Echo & The Bunnymen were cancelling their upcoming trip to the United States, though visas weren't blamed like they were for Speech Debelle and First Aid Kit in October. The Rakes cancelled their tour because they broke up. Charlatans blamed an injury.

All dates BL were supposed to play, below...

Bad Lieutenant - 2009 Tour Dates
Wednesday, November 18: Park West, Chicago, IL [18+ show]
Thursday, November 19: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL [opening for PIXIES]
Saturday, November 21: Webster Hall, New York, NY [18+ show]
Monday, November 23: Hammerstein Ballroom, New York, NY [opening for PIXIES]

Thursday, December 17: SECC, Glasgow, UK [opening for PET SHOP BOYS]
Friday, December 18: NIA, Birmingham, UK [opening for PET SHOP BOYS]
Sunday, December 20: Evening News Arena, Manchester, UK [opening for PET SHOP BOYS]
Monday, December 21: O2 Arena, London, UK [opening for PET SHOP BOYS]

(thanks Renee, Maria and and S!)

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Comments (37)

This sucks balls

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:10 PM

UN HAPPY

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:10 PM

I am also upset about this.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:16 PM

That sucks Ticketmaster won't give you your $2.55 back.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:18 PM

UGGH ECHO, CHARLATANS AND NOW THIS! 3 IN ROW FOR ME!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:18 PM

me too!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:21 PM

Gotta love Ticketmaster. F'ing scumbags.

Step 1: Sell tickets to Concert
Step 2: Cancel Concert
Step 3: Profit!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:27 PM

Fuck!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:34 PM

so who's opening on 11/23 now????

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:44 PM

not to defend ticketmaster but in a way they did their job. processed order & printed tickets , etc so I don't think they are profiting.. not did they cancel the concert
They are not the ones to blame here. It's the insane new visas laws for foreign artists..I'm not sure who these laws favor..

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:46 PM

ahhh, they favor freedom?

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:54 PM

"Gotta love Ticketmaster. F'ing scumbags.

Step 1: Sell tickets to Concert
Step 2: Cancel Concert
Step 3: Profit!"

im pretty sure the band cancelled the show, not ticketmaster

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 12:54 PM

This isn't Ticketmaster's fault. They processed the ticket which is what they are hired to do. This is the fault of the fucking asshole artists who allow their managers to use that fucking company to handle tickets. In this day and age of the internet, why do bands need Ticketmaster at all? Can't clubs sell direct online or bands sell tickets from their websites? I guess not. I guess not. I guess not. Alternatively, lining up at the club to buy tickets is another possibility. If you want the ticket, you'll line up. Oh no, oh no, I guess limousine liberals and hipsters would rather pay the service charges than stand in line and then bitch about it when the concert is cancelled and they don't get their service charge refunded? Well, guess what, Ticketmaster essentially waited in line for you so why should they give you your service fee back?

Posted by Rocky Napoli | November 12, 2009 12:59 PM

Doesn't matter who cancelled the show and weather tm did there job. The consumer is not getting the paid for service anymore. If it is the bands fault then they should reimburse ticketmaster for everyones processing fee and the consumer should get a full refund and not bear any expense!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:00 PM

TM handles tickets for nearly all the major venues... artists don't have much of a choice except to play some vastly inferior venue... something that most established bands (especially someone like The Pixies) would never do... if there was really a viable alternative I think the bands would choose one... beyond a certain level there really isn't one.. It's the venues and the promoters that are to blame because if they weren't getting some kick backs or huge incentive to use TM why else would they sign on..

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:08 PM

As I much as I generally dislike TM, they are doing nothing wrong in this situation. You need to grow up and learn how businesses operate.

I just realized that the me of 10 years ago would want to kick the me of now right in the stones.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:20 PM

NO AGE REPLACE THE PIXIES HAMMERSTEIN DATE!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:26 PM

these bands need to get their shit together, there is a fast track visa process but most of them fuck around and dont request these soon enough, get new management dumbasses

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:28 PM

The USA really sux. The USA is not in a position these days to turn down revenue. Visa issues causing the USA to go against the economy. Whatever.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:47 PM

Yeah this visa thing has cost me 2 different shows in a 2 weeks! Bands are feeling the pinch from the fees and will stop coming over...uggh!

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 1:57 PM

Ticketmaster charges you a convenience fee for using the Internet. Well it's more convenient for them too!
Running a website is far cheaper for Ticketmaster than it is for them to have live phone operators taking your call, and manually entering in your order.

Yes, I know Ticketmaster needs to make money to survive, but their fees are absurd.

I bought 2 tickets for the Pixies at Hammerstein. Face Value for the pair was 96.00. Then there was a 4 dollar facility charge? Wait, that wasn't figured in to the price of the ticket? The fac that the concert was being held somewhere, at that somewhere was going to get a piece of the ticket prices? No one thought about that?

Then we have a convenience charge of $15.90
And then an order processing fee of $4.05.

Grand total for two $48.00 tickets?
$119.95

They made $4.05 just to process my order on a website. A computer program which required no live human interaction.
Then, because it was supposedly more convenient for ME. They charged me $15.90.

I want to charge them a Captcha inconvenience fee. Every time I can't read the stupid word they want me to type in, I am sending Ticketmaster a bill for 15 dollars. Makes sense right?

Posted by Kurt C. | November 12, 2009 1:58 PM

Kurt C --
That does not make sense. What does make sense is to contact your elected officials to pass some legislation to regulate the fees these companies can charge. Until then, your only options are to not go to shows, pay the fees, or try to buy tickets at the venues. If enough people choose not to attend shows as a protest, then maybe that would work; but good luck organizing that.

Posted by Rocky Napoli | November 12, 2009 2:15 PM

Rocky Napoli: Did you have to practice to become such a trolling douche or does it just come naturally. Defend the more than 20% additional fees they tack on in other areas for shows that aren't cancelled. Or their practice of holding all of the best tickets to a show and then using a secondary seller (which they own) to make a huge profit. Spare us all.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 2:27 PM

@2:27

I am in no way defending Ticketmaster or their fees. I think that the entire system is ridiculous and I hate that it is essentially mandatory to use Ticketmaster to buy tickets to shows, sporting events, etc. However, what they do is legal. If a concert is cancelled, they still have a right to the exorbitant fee that you were charged to process the transaction. They do not have a right to the ticket price. It is not their fault that the show was cancelled. Let's put the blame where it belongs: on the consumers, venues, promoters, managers, and artists, who have allowed this situation to exist in the first place. I hate myself every time I but tickets from Ticketmaster instead of (if possible) going to the venue to buy the tickets. But, you know what? I pay that stupid processing and convenience fee because, well, it is convenient not to have to take extra time out of my day to go to the venue to get the tickets. I feel the same way when I use an atm at a deli and accept the fee instead of walking to my bank where the transaction would be free. Companies have figured out that people will pay these fees. Ticketmaster's fees are too high though. Agreed. The bums in Albany should definitely pass a law limiting the fees they can charge. Until then, you are kind of stuck.

Posted by Rocky Napoli | November 12, 2009 3:00 PM

it's official:

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Los Angeles, CA - November 12, 2009 -- It is with frustration and regret that Bad Lieutenant reluctantly announces the cancellation of the band's four U.S. dates set to commence next week. The more stringent immigration laws and changing visa parameters resulted in an inability to process the necessary paperwork.

"We were all so very excited about coming to the States to play our new music for our American fans," said Bad Lieutenant's Bernard Sumner, "and are extremely disappointed that on this occasion, we won't have the opportunity to do so. We plan to reschedule the Chicago and New York shows along with some additional U.S. dates in Spring 2010."
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Posted by brooklynvegan | November 12, 2009 3:26 PM

its not always the governments fault, sometimes its the bands for requesting this way, way too late and expecting a miracle

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 4:18 PM

Yes Ticketmaster is an evil company, but they would not exist if it wasn't for the greed of the promoters and to some extent the artists. There are a handful of other ticketing companies out there, but promoters decide to sign long-term contracts in exchange for kickbacks on the charges/fees added to the ticket cost.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 5:55 PM

they canceled their tour because they knew we would steal their van and trailer in brooklyn.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 10:07 PM

November 12, 2009 3:00 P: Fair enough.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 11:08 PM

exactly 10:07.

Posted by Anonymous | November 12, 2009 11:18 PM

So whos opening on 11/23 now????...

Posted by dekorasyon | February 6, 2010 2:40 AM

so true!

Posted by driver indir | February 6, 2010 2:44 AM

If it is the bands fault then they should reimburse ticketmaster for everyones processing fee and the consumer should get a full refund and not bear any expense!

Posted by Juice Fountain | February 9, 2010 11:56 PM

Shouldn't the band, or their organiserzs, sort out visas before going public on a tour and collecting monies. They took payment for something they could not deliver.

Posted by Blocked Drains | March 23, 2010 8:27 AM

Shouldn't the band, or their organiserzs, sort out visas before going public on a tour and collecting monies. They took payment for something they could not deliver...

Posted by interior designs | May 23, 2010 9:55 AM

Shouldn't the band, or their organiserzs, sort out visas before going public on a tour and collecting monies. They took payment for something they could not deliver...

Posted by interior designs | May 23, 2010 9:56 AM

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