Posted in music | pictures on November 2, 2009

photos by Tim Griffin

David Yow rides the crowd as beer flies
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Titus Andronicus drama aside for a second, I was worried that the "party" crowd wouldn't be a good audience for the Jesus Lizard and Bad Brains. But as security pointed out, the audience very much treated the show like the "concert" it was. It got crazy for Jesus Lizard, energetic front-man David Yow included...

"The Jesus Lizard performed a ferocious set, with singer David Yow crowd diving and singing noise rock anthems while sweaty hands held him aloft. Meanwhile, the line outside on North 10th Street snaked around the block, as hundreds of costumed revelers waited in the rain to get inside." [The Wall Street Journal???]
The crowd was ferocious too, but ironically they were 10 times more ferocious for Bad Brains whose front-man just stood there in a white hoodie. Luckily for security (who after a few songs of frustration just let the show be), Bad Brains played a lot of reggae jams. That kept it relatively calm. Bad Brains setlist below. The Jesus Lizard will be back for two more NYC shows later this month.

The bands played upstairs in the two-level warehouse on North 10th Street between Berry and Wythe. Downstairs, and between bands, there were DJs. I was especially appreciative of all the classic 90's techno hits (at the 1994-themed party). The music mixed with the warehouse location, lights, and smoke machines probably made the Vice event more Maskarave than the actual Maskarave happening across the river. That felt especially true late night, after Bad Brains which was when the majority of the crowd left (and they weren't letting anyone else in). I don't know a lot of song names, but Moby's "Thousand", Josh Wink's "Don't Laugh", and "Percolator" were at least three of the more popular ones I remember hearing during the DJ sets from Dave 1 from Chromeo, Peanut Butter Wolf, Nick Catchdubs, Rub-N-Tug, and/or Blu Jemz. Earlier in night there was also lots of classic hip hop, sometimes accompanied with the song's video.

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No pictures of Titus because Tim was downstairs during their quick set, and we're not even sure if Children ever ended up playing.

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Comments (68)

Fuck you Vice for hiring the worst security of all time. I watched them get violent with at least 20 people in an hour.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 12:17 PM

Leave it to Vice to hire the Mafia for security.

Posted by Ryan Tomorrow | November 2, 2009 12:35 PM

people are dumb. i had a great time.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 12:39 PM

Was there around 1:30 a.m. If they weren't going to let anymore people in, why didn't the security and/or cops in the vicinity make any attempt to disperse the crowd?

That would have made a lot of sense and defused a lot of the line tension.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 12:40 PM

leave it to you kids to complain on the security
but not a word on any other aspects of that failed
production. how long have you been standing in line to get in? that hold up at the door was caused by what? did anyone check if you were on the list?
not to mention the extremly wet slippery floor with broken glass all over.

Posted by ajaxson | November 2, 2009 12:42 PM

is it true that the yeah yeah yeah's are playing a free secret show on friday ??

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 12:46 PM

David Yow is THE MAN.
Duane, you are equally as awesome

Posted by TXn | November 2, 2009 12:49 PM

Duane looks eerily like John Cleese these days.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 1:13 PM

This party was fucking awesome. The Jesus Lizard killed it. Thanks Vice.

Posted by bvllets | November 2, 2009 1:17 PM

Children Did not end up playing due to security problems

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 1:17 PM

Show was great. Security did suck, even though we had wristband/invites and guest list we werent getting in. Luckily the space had a shitload of doors around it to just stroll into. Once inside it was great, free booze and great sets of music and tits haha. Videos of both sets, half pipe and the line outside. BV feel free to update if you'd like.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kngkoor1

Posted by Crook from the Bronx | November 2, 2009 1:22 PM

My girl chilled in the back and she said she saw security literally dragging people across the filthy glass ridden floor at least a dozen times in an hours time. In that hour she said she saw at least 4 fights. I mainly went for The Jesus Lizard set and it was fucking great. I also really enjoyed the freedom of smoking cigs all over that place, I hate being trapped in a show worried about getting booted for a fucking cigarette. The only people complaining are the ones who didnt get in.

Posted by Crook form the Bronx | November 2, 2009 1:29 PM

1) where's the pix of titus' girlfriend?
2) the security at this show were pussies

Posted by hells angels, altamont chapter | November 2, 2009 1:30 PM

i love the passed out pig photo at the end. ha!

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 1:32 PM

@1:29
"she saw security literally dragging people across the filthy glass ridden floor at least a dozen times"

"The only people complaining are the ones who didnt get in."

story does not check out.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 1:34 PM

@1:34

How does it not check out?

She wasn't complaining, we had a hell of a time. Drinking and partying for free. If we didnt get in, yep, I'd be here bitching haha. But instead or crying in the rain we found a door that led to a stairwell that led to the party.

Posted by Crook from the Bronx | November 2, 2009 1:47 PM

can't wait to see the lizard at irving.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 1:52 PM

GREENMAN!

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 1:54 PM

@1:47 i was referring to the people dragged across the floor filled with broken glass...they obviously did get in, but were likely to also be complaining.

unless they were some sort of weird japanese fetishists.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 2:14 PM

Skateboarders. Woo.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 2:18 PM

How about the fact that there wasn't a single chair to sit on in the entire 30,000 sq ft space party. It would have been nice to not have to sit on the wet floor to take a quick break from the chaos.

Actually aside from the Jesus Lizard and Bad Brains which were great, it was pretty much the shittiest party i've ever been to. Pretentious and generally stupid crowd, and corporate advertising along with douchey security made things almost impossible to enjoy.

Nice one Vice. You've succeeded once again in alienating your constituency. Might as well sell yourself off to Viacom if you haven't already sucked Clear Channel's dick.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 2:40 PM

they already sold themselves off to viacom, duh

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 2:49 PM

the things people will do for free alcohol... and thats what this was about, without the free alcohol, a lot less people would have cared

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 2:58 PM

"How about the fact that there wasn't a single chair to sit on in the entire 30,000 sq ft space party."


hahahaha, what a douche. do yourself favor, if you like to sit, sit the fucking next one out if you dont like their parties.

Posted by whineroner | November 2, 2009 3:04 PM

can anyone tell me what in the world they spent $250,000 on? I'm sure the booze was donated by sponsors, obviously they had to pay the bands and rent sound and lights, but what else could have cost that much? Did they give out prizes or some shit like that?

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 3:06 PM

its funny and a bit sad that not only did "crook from the bronx" not notice the contradiction between "only people complaining didnt get in" and "at least 4 fights and dozens of people being dragged out by security", he also needed someone to provide a detailed explanation after it was mentioned.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 3:06 PM

this comment was left on gawker about the 250k and seems relatively cogent. Who knows if it was really 250k though, vice has a history of lying to the media


"Bucky Turco is not too good at seeing what goes into an event that big. You could spend 250k pretty easy on that party. Bad Brains and Jesus Lizard 25k each, maybe as much as 40k each for a private event like this. 10k in DJ fees. 10k or maybe more for venue rental. 20k-30k for security (who were douches), 15k for bar staffing, 5k for insurance, 2k for architectural renderings for the city, 2k for permits, 2k for cleanup, 10k for portapotties, sound and staging could have been 40k or more, stage managing and sound guys 5k, the smaller bands maybe 1k or 2k each, renting out several studios in Fast Ashleys for the green rooms 5k, etc. That's around 200k right there and I'm probably thinking these are cheaper than they really are and I'm sure I'm leaving a lot of stuff out. It was a big, big event. A lot of fun for those who got in. NewGonzo promoted this comment"

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 3:14 PM

great photos man. nice recap.

Posted by matth | November 2, 2009 3:22 PM

was I there?
god what happened

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 3:59 PM

Went for Bad Brains only. Got in right before they played, left right after they played. Drank some, went to the bathroom. Had fun. Great stuff. Thanks Vice.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:13 PM

hands down party of the year. give me an example of a better one.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:22 PM

Vice man. jesus, they always fuck everything up!

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:23 PM

no one goes to vice parties anymore, obviously

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:33 PM

4:33, note these 2 draws that this party had (though both turned out to be bogus on many levels):

free entry
open bar

still, even with those giveaways to draw in the crowd, there were hardly any savvy hipster showgoer types there.

It's true SOME people go to Vice parties, but they're yahoos and bridge-and-tunnel amateur hour types, and even those losers have to be lured there by (misleading) claims of free entry and booze.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:41 PM

no one goes to vice parties anymore, they're too crowded.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:52 PM

dumbasses go to Vice parties in droves.

congrats on the dumbass appeal, Vice!

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 4:55 PM

Vice and American Apparel will be remembered only as cringe inducing relics of mid-2000's kitsch.

It's almost 2010, expect their final sunset any second. They're both way past their half-life moments already.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 5:07 PM

ree entry
open bar

2 draws?

MEthinks the 2 draws were

Bad Brains
Jesus Lizard


There would have been just as many hipster idiots waiting on line to get in for the free drinks and the 'say I was there' attitude, but seriously, this party would have been completely meaningless had those two bands not been on the bill.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 5:44 PM

anyone discerning who would typically have psyched for that bill immediately saw it was a Vice party and decided to skip it

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 5:53 PM

id bet most people on line barely heard of those two bands. they were there because the event, and most importantly the alcohol, was free.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 7:03 PM

vice is so 90's

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 7:17 PM

Let's just keep in mind that Vice invited their friends and clients and VIP type douchebags to this event, and thanks to all this press, more people than they anticipated showed up, and those of us who were invited couldn't get in.

Thanks Paper, Black Book, Gawker, Brooklyn Vegan, New York Post, New York Observer!

I guess this is just how it goes in the era of easy mass communication.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 7:33 PM

Vice is so proud of their ability to draw in crowds with free entry and free booze.

you guys are really marketing geniuses! really next level there!

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 7:45 PM

We showed up around 11:30 and there was a huuuge line outside at the main entrance, so we went to another entrance, showed our wristbands and got right in. All three guards smiled and greeted us. Got lots of free drinks by very friendly bartenders...

The djs were playing really fun songs and everyone was dancing. Then the Jesus Lizard came on and they were amazing, and everyone was having a good time. To be fair, security didn't really even come near the stage until some tard started climbing on the sprinkler system (think about it--sprinklers go off = party's over).

The only bummer was the security at the main entrance. We wondered why they weren't letting people in when it wasn't crowded inside at all. And when we left to use the bathrooms down the street (we didn't want to wait in line), they wouldn't let us back in. They wouldn't let anyone in, even though people were leaving in droves. Oh well, so we left. I'm sure those security people had to deal with a lot of assholes all night long so we gave them a break.

We had a good time and it was all free, so why complain. True, some didn't enjoy it (some of my friends didn't, so they just left without bitching about it), but a lot of people worked hard to put on a fun party. It's all what you make of it, I guess.

ps: HR did suck, but what else is new. Dude's old and wasted, leave him alone!

pps: I stopped reading Vice many years ago but I still appreciate their parties (Les Savvy Fab at cakeshop? amazing!)

Posted by live and let live. | November 2, 2009 7:47 PM

Uh, $250,000? I've seen Live Fast Die shows that cost about $7 that were just as sweaty. Someone wanna tell me why DJs get paid that much? I mean, I realize cab fair just went up 50 cents, but...Guess the fact I saw Jesus Lizard when they were only kinda old made this whole "crazy idea" seem dull in the first place. And everyone knows the Bad Brains should never have started these reunion gigs. But whatever, it was Halloween, probably fun for half the people...Now a Devil Dogs reunion, that would be news!

Posted by Eric | November 2, 2009 9:00 PM

Great pics....

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 9:24 PM

you were not supposed to smoke, there were "no smoking signs" posted. could you not see the signs in the dark? now my clothes smell like 1994.

Posted by my cloths smell | November 2, 2009 9:32 PM

i could not find a bathroom so i just urinated in an unlit area on the floor.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 9:39 PM

Man people are like battered wives with these vice events...they just keep going back and complaining.

But what is there to complain about...Vice isn't trying to sell us anything.

So if it cost them $250k, how much do you think they made in Sponsorship? Big profit methinks

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 9:52 PM

Good point, battered wives DO complain too much.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 10:07 PM

everyone there was from jersey

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 10:19 PM


"Let's just keep in mind that Vice invited their friends and clients and VIP type douchebags to this event, and thanks to all this press, more people than they anticipated showed up, and those of us who were invited couldn't get in.

Thanks Paper, Black Book, Gawker, Brooklyn Vegan, New York Post, New York Observer!

I guess this is just how it goes in the era of easy mass communication."

Oh come on now. Vice held a contest which was open to everyone and anyone in the world without mentioning in the contest just how many people would be winning. Then they went and sent invites to more people than could easily get in. They made sure that all those publications and websites you mentioned were aware of the event and wrote about it. Vice promoted the crap out of this 'private party' in the public world.

If Vice wanted a cozy invite only party they could have easily done it without anybody knowing or caring. They did not want that. They wanted a spectacle.

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 10:46 PM

Let's face it, if you didn't get in, you weren't important enough to get in. It was their party, they can do what they want.

Let's have a fundraiser and throw our own party!

Posted by Anonymous | November 2, 2009 11:46 PM

im down to throw our own party, i can contribute $5

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2009 12:15 AM

i got two blowjobs at that shithole.

Posted by jazz from crooklyn | November 3, 2009 3:05 AM

Vice loves contributing little bullshit pellets to anonymous forums like this one.

the "let's face it, if you didn't get in you weren't important enough to get in" line is classic Vice. manages to express their "douchebags are awesome" and "velvet elitism is super cool" contrarian ethos, and forcingly attemps to paint over the fact that there is no way any intelligent process was in play managing that line - as it was obvious to anyone that it was a complete chaotic disaster.

They couldn't have been employing any kind of elitist agenda, as they barely had their shit together enough to even card people effectively.

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2009 8:15 AM

Agreed on the fact that there is no intelligent way to manage a line of 3000 shitfaced folks on Halloween trying to get into a killer party. Chaos.

I dunno though. Even if HR phones it in, shit still looks fun:
http://vimeo.com/7398507

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2009 10:52 AM

3000 people is not that many people. It's not as Vice is the only organisation to ever attempt to put on a big show/party/rave!

Btw, can I mention that Bad Brains and TJL can easily outdraw 3000 people together even when there is no free booze and tickets cost $25 or more?

Looks like Vice has a negative affect on turnout, even with the freebies.

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2009 12:23 PM

So for those just tuning in, here are the takeaway points to consider:

*The party was expected to be the biggest clusterfuck of all time
*It was the biggest clusterfuck of all time, maybe 2nd biggest
*People were pissed they didn't get in
*Seems like most of the people who got in came early
*Most people inside seemed to have a blast, there are a few who didn't
*One guy was mad he couldn't get in to see Jesus Lizard because he walked around 12pm up and there was a line
*Security supposedly went rogue on Vice and were out of control
*Security didn't appear to let the party get to capacity, upstairs full, downstairs not so much
*The Jesus Lizard were great, people went nuts
*Bad Brains (or just HR) phoned it in, people went nuts
*Titus beardo got roughed up by security and blogged it into some generational rallying cry, played a set of Weezer covers, got paid.
*Children didn't get to play, didn't blog about it, got paid.
*Lots of people complaining about everything
*Lots of people laughing at the complainers and calling them entitled hipsters
*Lots of people wondering why others are so shocked that a party like this on Halloween was chaos on all levels
*Lots of media attention from the blogs and Vice competitors
*Feasible that they spent $250k, should have hired a better security firm
*Probably time to do away with anonymous comments on Brooklyn Vegan

And that's that.

Posted by hector | November 3, 2009 12:30 PM

"3000 people is not that many people."

"Bad Brains and TJL can easily outdraw 3000 people together even when there is no free booze and tickets cost $25 or more?"

You really think that those two bands could sell out Roseland or another roughly 3000 person venue? Come on now. Together the ticket would be $40-50...

Lizard has two shows at Irving coming up, one of which is not sold out, Bad Brains would play something similar.

You're just plain wrong if you think that a free event with those bands would attract less people....

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 8:43 AM

Irving Plaza has capacity of 1100. If Jesus Lizard is playing two shows there (after they just played in the same town for free, mind you) and has already sold out one of them, then their draw - with a pricey ticket and an expensive bar - is around 2200 in New York City.

You also say that Bad Brains would do about the same venuewise... and you're right. Last time Bad Brains came through NYC they sold out Irving Plaza.

So you're talking about two bands who's combined draw is more than 3000, plus it was a free show, plus free booze, plus on Halloween, plus Vice promoting the fuck out of the party and getting it hyped on every blog in town.

Even so, Vice could only pull out less than the regular combined draw of both bands. Not very impressive at all!

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 12:15 PM

good or bad, the amount of press this got will dwarf the reach of any Irving Plaza show.

also I hear they are doing an LA one later this week http://www.viceland.com/15yearla
hope they dont hire tight security for that one

also this is funny, a vice employee who planned the ny event got kicked out & manhandled by security then threatened to quit
http://twitter.com/buckyturco/status/5330770178

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 12:34 PM

Taji got some mean airfeet

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 12:40 PM

@12:15PM
Err...except that you're not considering what would happen to ticket prices if TJL and BB played together. $50? $60? What happens then? Other than pure conjecture... and you're also talking about Manhattan, at a venue, not Brooklyn at a warehouse.

Were you really even there on Sat? The draw wasn't the problem at all. There was over 1000 inside, and another what, 1000-2000 outside? Seems like a success as far as draw goes, anything else is just apples and oranges.

Sorry.

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 2:58 PM

Fuck, who cares how many people were there. This looks fun as fuck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKvr0jBR8IY

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 3:10 PM

Fuck Vice! I hate them so much but I just can't stop talking about them! No homo. Just can't stop! Fuck!

Posted by Anonymous | November 4, 2009 3:25 PM

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