Posted in music | venues on December 17, 2009

Under 100 (more by Erez Avissar)
Under 100

"Well, it's not that complicated, really. A phone call from Under 100 promoter Ariel Panero broke the news yesterday: two letters from the community board, a soon-to-be irate landlord, and a beyond irate Damon Dash, whose reaction upon reading our [the Village Voice] article about his venue yesterday was apparently to shut the whole place down. Other people we talk to say the place will be back, quietly, after a month or two time-out. Our guess is the truth of that prediction is very much in the air right now. Real sorry about this." [Village Voice]
Check out pictures from the third and final show, which was exactly a week before this closing announcement.

PREVIOUSLY: The Cool Kids, London Souls, Curren$y & friends (but not Blakroc) played Under 100 (pics) ++ a show there tonight

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Comments (35)

Pitchfork intern fail!

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 6:56 PM

out of touch pitchfork fuck greg ruined it all

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 6:56 PM

Before we go forward--Do you have any idea what Dame is doing writing Ariel in the first place?

I think Dame just knew about the shows that were happening at Less Artists and he reached out because he wanted to film some of the later shows that were happening there. Less Artists stopped as a venue in mid- 2008;

Weird - for someone that's supposedly connected - this is a strange inaccuracy to state in the story. Less Artists More Condos was most certainly active well into 2009 - I saw A Place to Bury Strangers there in May and Psychdelic Horseshit in January - and that's just off the top of my head...

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 6:58 PM

this was inevitable, it's pretty ridiculous to blame Greg Finch. One could as easily blame the Village Voice or Damon Dash.

Tribeca is the highest rent district in the USA. It's like putting on shows in Beverly Hills, except that everyone lives on top of each other. The real culprit here is that rich people and their lawyers have a monopoly on power in this world.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:01 PM

this is really the story of two young guys souring on working together, and their wealthy patron getting cold feet out the whole ordeal

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:03 PM

finch = total snitch?
dash = idealist punk?
ariel = todd p?


Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:07 PM

[nelson]HAW HAW![/nelson]

Posted by Crosseyed Sniper | December 17, 2009 7:11 PM

why dis these guys for trying?

would you have turned down the opportunity to put on parties in this amazing location, or the opportunity to explain your goals in an interview?

To defend their misjudgment a little bit, it was just an online story... who could have predicted it would blow up in their faces so seriously? the venue had already been covered online previously here and other places with no problems.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:14 PM

kudos to Ariel Panero and Greg Finch and Damon Dash for trying to improve the cultural life of the city. Whether it lasted long or not is not important.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:22 PM

In ten years, everyone will tell the story about how they were there and it was the best place that ever existed.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:32 PM

I realize that the key to spreading internet innacuracy is to gauge truth from the comments section, but if there's even a sliver of truth to the comment about cigarrette smoke, could we all finally agree that indoor smoking at these venues is a dumb fucking idea?

I get it; you don't want people congretating out on the streets. So, just make a policy of no re-entry. It's not like some fey BK hipster will refuse to go because of the 90 minutes suddenly put in between his clove cigs.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:34 PM

yes cigarette smoking is the problem to keeping diy spaces open! 7:34 is not just some nutcase teetotaler, he's a visionary genius! all those... ahem... CENTURIES preceding the past decade that indoor smoking has been illegal, they were all reckless fools! they'd have burned us all up. we're all gonna die! aaaaaahhhhhhh!

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:51 PM

props for their hard work. woulda been hard to keep this spot open for very long, article or no

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 7:58 PM

wish i could have seen sleigh bells there

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 10:01 PM

That's what you get for being PRESS WHORES!

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 10:06 PM

eh, at some point just through word of mouth, the people living in that area would have known about it and shut it down. it's not because of the article.

Still, the 20 year old kid is guilty of poor judgment. maybe he got too excited to have his name in the village voice, maybe he didnt realize that what they were doing was technically not allowed... either way, he was naive and didnt think.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 10:32 PM

BV posted about Under 100 at least twice before. Like most things in the "DIY" scene, the Voice was two steps behind.

BV gets about 100,000 hits a day. How many people read the Village Voice? Its really not fair to blame Greg. The word was out on this place, and its time was going to be up pretty soon anyway.

Greg is the one of the guys who set up and ran that whole ToddP/Pitchfork/Showpaper thing at the Market Hotel on the last night of CMJ with Cymbals Eat Guitars, Real Estate, Cold Cave, etc. It was an awesome show and the kid deserves a ton of credit.


Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 10:51 PM

brooklynvegan articles about Under 100:
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/11/javelin_played_1.html
"Under 100 is located at 172 Duane St (Duane & Hudson) in Tribeca.
By subway, 1/2/3 or A/C/E to Chambers St.
Doors open at 8pm, the venue is all-ages, and the cost is $10.
This event was curated and organized by Under 100 Booking."

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2009/11/mos_def_played_3.html
"first show at new tribeca venue "under 100," which is co-owned by greg finch of p4k tv, and is in damon dash's office basement"

Village Voice actually used Lori's photo from the second of those two articles.

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 10:59 PM

do shows at 92y

Posted by Anonymous | December 17, 2009 11:16 PM

According the the AAN, the Village Voice has a weekly circulation of 197,000. That's less than two days of web hits for brooklynvegan. And that includes all Voice readers, a smaller number of which actually read the music section where this article was placed.

http://aan.org/gyrobase/Aan/viewCompany?oid=oid%3A94

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 12:05 AM

FUCK FINCH.

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 12:43 AM

Stop Snitchin'

Posted by Carmelo Anthony | December 18, 2009 1:56 AM

Ariel and Greg are fucking trust-fund rich kids trying to act like they're making a scene.
Everyone knows that in Brooklyn. Someone want to give them "props" for their hard work!?
What's hard about making a phone call and setting up a couple microphones.
Get a real job you fuckin hippies.

Posted by T.Williams | December 18, 2009 9:41 AM

Under Wear

Posted by Burg | December 18, 2009 10:06 AM

agree with 9:41-these trustfund douches really need to get a real job and stop trying to get known for doing very little. anything to make a name for yourself and be known. fucking ridiculous.

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 10:22 AM

what the hell is everyone talking about?

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 10:43 AM

Rule #1 of running an illegal venue: Don't put the address all over websites.

Rule #2 of running an illegal venue: Don't give interviews about how you're running an illegal venue.

Idiots.

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 11:08 AM

i did find it conspicuous that only greg was interviewed and not ariel. i don't think ariel would have been as naive about this... i wonder if he even knew about the interview until it was too late?

Posted by K | December 18, 2009 12:03 PM

Its because Greg called Village Voice. He's an intern and he wants to look important. Way to go you stupid fuck. Not like Rap Rock needs a home anyway but just seeing some dumbshit intern trying to come up is so fucking lame.

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 12:28 PM

trust-fund? more like crust-fund, as in at least one of those fellows' wells is drying up fast and unlike you, they're out there trying to make some cash doing something that doesn't just serve themselves but rather a vast community of music lovers.

seriously, "Everyone knows that in Brooklyn." ignant indignant fuc

Posted by calcula | December 18, 2009 1:15 PM

Let's play a game and see if you can solve the hypstery:

-2 narcissistic guys working together, both with some semblance of "ideals," one guy who's been around a while who thinks he has a "claim" and has made some very dubious choices in the scene; one young kid trying to "make it" in NYC who is eager to please and not content to share the limelight
-1 benefactor who used the space as a means of documenting their "love" of the independent music scene to an extent that felt fake and manipulative
-a venue was going to get closed down soon anyways, but it would have been with a whimper, not this bang.

Some of you are privy to this. The rest of you are taking these actions so literally. Human nature is far trickier than that, there is the matter of intentions, be they good or bad.

Is all publicity good publicity? Why is our DIY scene so inbred? Why don't more of you go to shows with undiscovered talent?

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 2:13 PM

Ariel Panero is not making himself look better by "anonymously" posting here

Posted by Anonymous | December 18, 2009 2:35 PM

I really think that this is a situation where everyone is more or less to blame. Sure, it was stupid to post the address online, and sure, the interview / article was a stupid idea as well, but picking fights and blaming Greg or Damon Dash or Ariel or the Village Voice or anybody else won't bring Under 100 back, so you may as well give it up. Especially with this whole "gtfo rich kids" thing; you know oughta know whatever it is that you're talking about before you shit on it. The point is, they made a big mistake, and they did cut out some fun for a lot of people, but there are many other, bigger, more professional venues out there, and whining over a hyper-short-lived location shouldn't be such a priority.

Posted by Anonymous | December 19, 2009 4:47 PM

It is very inconceivable that Under 100 is going to say bye-bye. After all they are a really nice set of artists. It is said that Under 100 promoter Ariel Panero broke the news. He is saying they might be back in one or two months but not quite sure. The letters were from two boards, the soon to be irate landlord and a beyond erate Demon Dash. Upon hearing this they reacted in such a way that they shut down the whole place. What I don't understand is that why would anyone turn down such a very good place. It was amazing to put parties in that location. No one thought it could worry others even if it was an online story. If this is true they are going to miss out a huge portion of people which I think is definitely not a good idea. Be it online fact or online fiction.

Posted by Custom Fortune Cookies | February 9, 2010 5:12 AM

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