Posted in music on December 3, 2009

Chillwave

Trend You Wish Would Go Away

  1. 90s revivalism (No Age, Japandroids, Cymbals Eat Guitars)
  2. Afropop indie (Dirty Projectors, Fool's Gold, Abe Vigoda)
  3. Animal Collective acolytes (Blind Man's Colour, Our Brother the Native, USF)
  4. Balearic (jj, John Talabot, Windsurf/Hatchback)
  5. Chillwave/glo-fi (Washed Out, Neon Indian, Nite Jewel)
  6. Dubstep and its offshoots (wonky, funky, bassline)
  7. Post-Lily Allen UK pop (La Roux, Little Boots, Florence and the Machine)
  8. Prim, buttoned-up indie (Grizzly Bear, Andrew Bird, St. Vincent)
  9. Shitgaze/lo-fi aesthetics (Times New Viking, Wavves, Vivian Girls)
Vote for that & more in Pitchfork's 2009 Reader's Poll. Image via Hipster Runoff.

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Comments (92)

Trend You Wish Would Go Away
1.MEH

Posted by TXn | December 3, 2009 12:30 PM


I'm sick of all these Skiffle bands

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:31 PM

glad u represented carles

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:34 PM

dubstep is supremely overrated

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:37 PM

i was hoping they were going to throw in:
1) shitty pitchfork reviews
2) shitty pitchfork top 10s.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:40 PM

wtf is baelric? and what about 80s revivalism?

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:41 PM

All of that shit sucks.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:43 PM

80s revivalism is ok.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:45 PM

10. Trends manufactured by Pitchfork

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:47 PM

yeah, how bout "Brown-nosing Pitchfork bands and their soulless army of copy-cat websites"

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:47 PM

i wish all of that would go away with the exception of 90's revivalism. more bands that sound like they grew up on punk rock plz.

Posted by rkb | December 3, 2009 12:47 PM

baelric is the shit. expand your horizons, people.

Posted by ballsinyourface | December 3, 2009 12:48 PM

I wish anonymous Internet comment sections full of people who don't know what they are talking about would go away.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:54 PM

I would just like good songs by intelligent bands to come back, please. We miss you

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:58 PM

also:


gypsy world music - beirut
lofi girl bands - viv girls/dum dum girls
beach house

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 12:58 PM

i wish people who write about bad comments or posts they don't like, as in "who cares" or "the meh guy should die" or "I wish anonymous Internet comment sections full of people who don't know what they are talking about would go away", would go away.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:01 PM

GREENMAN!

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:04 PM

There's actually a question like that? Whoa. Nice one.

I'm waiting a couple of days, hoping for other people to input some of my picks into the Auto-Complete. I'm lazy like that.

I'd definitely vote for Chillwave/glo-fi. I can't stand neither of those, but at the same time I don't want a 90s revival as a trend, though I like No Age and Japandroids.

Posted by dee | December 3, 2009 1:05 PM

why isnt deerhunter an option for their best live act? bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:05 PM

I recognize maybe 3 or 4 bands on here. I feel good about myself.

Posted by JT | December 3, 2009 1:06 PM

I would prefer if Animal Collective themselves would stop making music .. but i would gladly accept a few of these trends to eat it as well.

If these disappear, what will emerge?

Posted by Mangtooth | December 3, 2009 1:14 PM

the internet is trendy

Posted by Harvey Bilk | December 3, 2009 1:20 PM

"Chillwave/glo-fi "

...they had to have made that up! That doesn't mean anything!

I picked Shitgaze/lo-fi aesthetics. It's dumb as it is, but the unbelievable amounts of pretension and self-importance make it the worst genre around. Unlike all the other self-important, hording genres - garage punk, rockabilly, metal - this sound has no leg to stand on. They can't even back up their arrogance with actual music.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:25 PM

what is up with you people? you all sound like you have some pretty miserable stuck in the grunge 90's taste, please stick your heads in mud, clog your ears and never comment on music again. that would help with these boards. have a great day.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:29 PM

"I would prefer if Animal Collective themselves would stop making music .. but i would gladly accept a few of these trends to eat it as well."

you have a choice weather to listen to them or not.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:29 PM

pitchfork can blow me

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:30 PM

So what are people 'for' exactly? What's left aside for Susan Boyle?

Posted by naj | December 3, 2009 1:33 PM

Hyping up mediocrity...

Posted by "Heroes" | December 3, 2009 1:40 PM

bring back "Wolf" bands!

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 1:42 PM

Crystal everything should go away

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:02 PM

both deerhunter and grizzly bear as not options for best live act is just plain stupid.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:03 PM

I wish the trend known as Pitchfork would go away

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:03 PM

Why can't we just have indie rock bands be back in the mainstay? Fuck the fashion focused bands that are out there - just focus on the music

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:04 PM

SHOE WAVE

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:05 PM

What time does Daft Punk go on?

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:12 PM

Anybody else sick of all this new polka music that keeps coming out yet no one seems to talk about?

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:15 PM

whatever "glo - fi" is, I dig it. Washed Out and Neon Indian are getting a lot of play on my ipod.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:17 PM

hating pitchfork is trendy. give it up people it is a terrific website and i bet all the haters visited pfork before coming over here first.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:28 PM

"I would just like good songs by intelligent bands to come back, please. We miss you"

This person must not listen to music.. or isn't digging deeply enough. there are SO many good bands making great music right now.

I'm sorry nobody is into whatever shit you're showcasing at trash bar.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:37 PM

2:37- Sorry to touch a nerve, I was being brash. But I have dug pretty deep and think there's a serious lack of great albums being made these days. I mean, Fleet Foxes took album of the year in '08. If you have any recommendations I would legitimately like to hear them, as Pitchfork has left me dry lately.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:49 PM

"pitchfork can blow me"

no, no it can't. its a website. it doesn't have a mouth, which is required in any sort of "blowing". so, sorry. guess you're not going to be getting head. just like always.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:49 PM

In the most overrated album category, Animal Collective has GOT to win.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:50 PM

bands made up entirely of boring, bearded, privileged dudes from connecticut or vermont.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 2:52 PM

Vampire Weekend is the WORST offender for Afropop indie, they should be number one on that list.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 3:05 PM

Vampire Weekend is the WORST offender for Afropop indie, they should be number one on that list.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 3:05 PM

@2:49, 2009 is the year of Kurt Vile. At least for me.

Posted by tim | December 3, 2009 3:17 PM

Wow... when even Pitchfork is this fucking gay, you know music's about done for.

Posted by Sinking South | December 3, 2009 3:28 PM

@anon 2:50... Amen.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 3:30 PM

Pavement

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 3:46 PM

number 9 all the way

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 3:55 PM

They can pry Andrew Bird from my cold dead hands.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 4:05 PM

Its funny how all that music sounds like my 2yo with his $20 casio keyboard from radio shack. Actually no, hes better.

Posted by tengo | December 3, 2009 4:29 PM

@ anon 2:50 and 3:30 what is your album of the year? just curious. i am sure it has to be amazing

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 4:30 PM

DANIEL JOHNSTON BE GONE. YOU SUCK AND THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE LIKE YOU IS TO BE TRENDY.

Posted by wingwalker77 | December 3, 2009 4:33 PM

I like Pitchfork...not sure about people's motivations for hating something so much...I would say don't read it if you hate it, unless you just like to hate things.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 4:41 PM

Pitchfork is a piece of shit that pays its writers diddley squat. It can die anytime. And all the musical trends it mentions can die too. It's all music biz trendy labelling and therefore self-serving bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 5:40 PM

that's why people read this website.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 5:41 PM

Trend that can return: long-term artists with something to say and who are capable of artistic development through the years, artists who are more than the product of some dumb hipster trend of the minute.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 5:44 PM

So just to be clear and sum up everyone's views:

All these genres suck

All these genres are good

Anonymous commenters should go away

People commenting on anonymous commenters should go away

Pitchfork is a terrible website

Pitchfork is a good website

All current music is terrible

Ok thanks everyone!

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 5:46 PM

Is it bad i like all of those?

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 5:46 PM

Does Pitchfork really pay its writers "diddley squat"? They don't get paid at all?

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 5:59 PM

I'm with ya 5:46.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 6:03 PM

Pitchfork writers make $100 per review. They are also all established critics who write for Village Voice, The Wire, Billboard, Paste, Decibel, Spin, alternative weeklies, etc. They used to be inexperienced and get paid diddley squat but that was a decade ago.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 6:31 PM

I think the problem with these so called trends is that you can describe them... To quote bob Dylan, if you can explain it, its not that funky.
I say death to all trends... But that dubstep shit is really a poor interpretation of drum and bass. Where is shy-fx and skibadee? That is a trend that needs to come back. BO!!!

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 6:38 PM

I am starting a new trend... Its called "hummus gaze" and its when you hum a little melody while staring at a delicious platter of hummus. There is a new band out called "Johny Chickpea and the fabulous Tahinis" and they ROCK!.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 6:47 PM

I just took the poll is the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever seen. Only let's you write your OWN picks for Albums and songs, the rest is whatever their writers think you like. At least in the past they added an input field to the end of their "suggestions".

Posted by dee | December 3, 2009 9:45 PM

"Pitchfork writers make $100 per review. They are also all established critics who write for Village Voice, The Wire, Billboard, Paste, Decibel, Spin, alternative weeklies, etc. They used to be inexperienced and get paid diddley squat but that was a decade ago." Bullshit. As for the $100 a review, you consider that big money? These "established critics" you mention include a lot of people axed from places like the Village Voice who would have considered that money chicken feed a few years ago. And I seriously doubt that they pay $100 a review across the board, but even if they do, they are a joke. Rock journalism is dead -- it's all about manufacturing fake hipster trends and writing thinly disguised PR now. Lester Bangs saw the future very clearly.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 10:10 PM

thoughtless negativity, yay! when's that gonna go out of vougue?

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 10:46 PM

"Trend that can return: long-term artists with something to say and who are capable of artistic development through the years"

there are as many bands today that fit that bill as there were fifteen years ago and as many trendy one-offs then as there are now. it's not like 1976, 1984, 1991, were only filled with career artists like the clash, sonic youth, and right said fred. there were lame, hip for a second bands back then too.

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 11:03 PM

it's just pop

Posted by Anonymous | December 3, 2009 11:23 PM

i don't know anything about the genre named "shitgaze" but i love that name.

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 1:29 AM

Crunkcore. Crunkcore needs to fucking die.

Posted by Ian Purdy | December 4, 2009 2:32 AM

"Rock journalism is dead -- it's all about manufacturing fake hipster trends and writing thinly disguised PR now."

I've been reading BV comments for a long time and i get it that everybody hates everything, but if you don't read pitchfork (or nme or something), how the hell do you find new music to listen to? Do you listen to every single album that is released? At least pitchfork is a guide to some pretty good stuff even if they are not perfect. If it didn't exist, I would never have listened to more than half the bands that I am now a big fan of.

Also -- Pitchfork pisses me off constantly and i really hate their pretentiousness and condescension. But without them (or similar), where are you supposed to find out about new music? It's impossible to listen to everything.

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 9:44 AM

dude that wrote the survey needs to reevaluate his priorities

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 10:32 AM

I like Brooklyn Vegan. He's extremely Vegan.

Actually listen to Lush Life. Pitchfork has not covered him yet. It's hip hop.

http://www.rapsterrecords.com/content/cassette-city-amazon-best-2009

Posted by R | December 4, 2009 12:31 PM

"but if you don't read pitchfork (or nme or something), how the hell do you find new music to listen to?"

Well, I seem to do alright without Shitfork. If you want to find good music, you will -- it's like a law of attraction. I wandered into a Brooklyn bar one night this summer not even knowing who the headliners were, stuck around, and was blown away by The Entrance Band, with Paz Lenchantin on bass. The show was fantastic. They just put out a very good album and I'm now a fan. Just go out, check out some bands, listen to friends who have similar tastes -- you don't need Shitfork, my friend, trust me.

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 5:24 PM

You know Paz?

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 5:32 PM

Go listen to some bands or listen to friends that have similar tastes? That's such a tiny percentage of the music that is out there. It's great to do that and you do pick up on music that you might otherwise miss, but the sample is so tiny that you are missing out on the vast majority of stuff that you would be into if only you were exposed to it.

That's just supplemental to something bigger that has far more people and resources to cover 100 times as much (pitchfork?).

I've gotten more music from Cool Music Central than Pitchfork, but still... it's the same idea.

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 6:25 PM

I am 6:25. I'd just like to add that i really am open to depending less on Pitchfork (and i am only posting this because i am desperate for alternatives), but there doesn't seem to be any other practical way.

I have gotten into a lot of bands because they were opening for bands that i was already a fan of, but that is the same idea as checking out random bands and listening to friends... you are missing out on 99% of what is out there.

Posted by Anonymous | December 4, 2009 6:29 PM

JJ ALL DAY!

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 9:35 AM

Pitchfork will always have my support as long as they continue to not have expanding pop up advertising; and so long as they don't don't allow anonymous comments, which are a corrosive drag on the scene.

They also do a very good job of presenting new, good music and finding new bands.

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 10:08 AM

^tool

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 10:09 AM

10:09 < meh guy

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 10:14 AM

Pitchfork is seriously a problem for you guys? get some perspective.

I'm an old dog, and this reminds me of when people used to bitch about Magnet and Puncture magazines back in the day. truth be told, both of those publications exposed a lot of good bands to a wider audience in the 90s. Pitchfork is doing the same, and they certainly do the best job of the pack of websites that are out there.

Accusing them of undue "influence" is pretty silly. they are only as influential as their picks resonate with you and all the rest of the indie rockers out there. if they seriously fell off their game then one of the other websites could easily usurp whatever clout they supposedly have. They'd be done for the moment they lose critical mass in terms of picking bands that people end up liking.

Kudos to Pitchfork for staying relevant so long. That's not an easy task, particularly in the face of so many know-nothing fickle shit talking hipsters.

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 10:24 AM

If it wasn't for BV, I would never have heard of my new new favorite act....Jeremy Jay.

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 11:07 AM

fuck pitchfork -- for the last time

Posted by Anonymous | December 7, 2009 11:10 AM

Thansk.touer ereo ueroe

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Posted by Penisvergrößerung | February 27, 2010 4:07 PM

That's such a tiny percentage of the music that is out there. It's great to do that and you do pick up on music that you might otherwise miss, but the sample is so tiny that you are missing out on the vast majority of stuff that you would be into if only you were exposed to it.

Posted by Acompanhantes | May 30, 2011 9:03 PM

Accusing them of undue "influence" is pretty silly. they are only as influential as their picks resonate with you and all the rest of the indie rockers out there. if they seriously fell off their game then one of the other websites could easily usurp whatever clout they supposedly have. They'd be done for the moment they lose critical mass in terms of picking bands that people end up liking.

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