Posted in hiphop | music | tour dates on February 22, 2010

"Then, Doom's crew pulls up 15 people deep. Everybody comes out of the car except for Doom" - Harry Knuckles

Is or isn't it DOOM in Chicago (by Dakota Blue Harper via Stop Being Famous)
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The three-date Mos Def/DOOM tour, coming to NYC's Nokia Theatre Times Square on Friday, February 26th, has already been rescheduled. With its new dates, the first show happened February 13th at Chicago's Congress Theater. Now it's being speculated that DOOM, as in the past, sent a stand-in to perform his super-short lip-synced headlining set. The venue and promoters have responded to the claim that it was a fake DOOM.

There are rumors floating around that this past Saturday's DOOM show was performed by a person who was not DOOM. The promoters of the show: React, Cold Grums, Silver Wrapper and the Congress Theater understand the rumors and are NOT ignoring the issue.

At the current time, React, Cold Grums, Silver Wrapper and the Congress Theater DO NOT have any proof that the person who performed was not Daniel Dumile, a.k.a. Doom. The show was legally contracted and paid for in full. The show was officially listed on Doom's website. React, Cold Grums and Silver Wrapper are all independent promoters who pour their lives into our shows.

Circumstances beyond the promoter's and venue's control prevented the artists from arriving on time, and the promoters elected to keep the venue open late so that the show could go on.

React, Cold Grums, Silver Wrapper and the Congress Theater are conducting an investigation with the Talent Agency, Management and Legal representatives for Doom. Because the show was legally contracted and paid for in full, any breach of contract could result in serious legal action. Doom's representatives are also preparing a statement.

Regardless of any of opinions, compelling proof of the matter is needed to take legal action on it. Until the investigation reaches conclusion, and proof is in hand, the promoters will not issue any refunds. At the current time, it is a rumor. This issue is being treated with the utmost respect and consideration.

React, Cold Grums, Silver Wrapper and the Congress Theater will release a statement clarifying the results in the near future. [Chicago Now]

What that means for the show this Friday is anybody's guess. Tickets are still on sale if you want to find out in person.

Promoter Harry Knuckles from Cold Grums, who was aware of DOOM's spotty record beforehand, describes the situation from his point of view, below. Mos Def (who may or may not have been drinking a Rolling Rock at Under 100) (via) did manage to put in what looks like a solid performance (including a masked cover of DOOM's "Accordian"). And on top of that, DOOM has added more European dates to his schedule for this March. The statement, videos and tour dates are below...

Harry Knuckles from Cold Grums Productions

[E]ven now we can't prove that wasn't Daniel Dumile. Here's how shit went down that night. it was an all-in deal so they booked all their own flights and hotel and ground trans. Doom sent his dj to do soundcheck, just line checks, so it's understandable and common that the prima-donna (sp?) headliners don't bother to check themselves. Like Mos, he was maaaad late to his set times and from what I hear from the agent, he is just super secretive and anti-social. So we're thinking "ok, Mos is here, and this is just part of Doom's mystique" Then, Doom's crew pulls up 15 people deep. Everybody comes out of the car except for Doom. Again, according to the agent, this is typical Doom. Then just as his set is supposed to start, dood jumps out of the car, runs in behind his huge hypeman, grabs a mic and runs on stage. At no point did we have time to fingerprint him or draw blood for inspection. And IMO, seriously, the dood looked like him, like Zev Love X. yes it was pretty obvious that the guy was lip-syncing, but we can't say that it wasn't Dumile. If Dumile lip-syncs because he is too fat, alcoholic and out of breath to spit his own verse, I guess that's what it has come to now. [Chicago Reader]
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DOOM - 2010 Tour Dates
FEB 25 KOOL HAUS TORONTO, ONTARIO #
FEB 26 NOKIA THEATER NEW YORK, NEW YORK #
MAR 03 A L'ELYSEE MONTMARTRE PARIS
MAR 04 PARADISO AMSTERDAM
MAR 05 ROUNDHOUSE LONDON
MAR 07 XTRA ZURIC
# w/ Mos Def

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Comments (39)


A little while back there was a lot of talk of how Doom couldn't leave the country. I'm pretty surprised there have been some
shows in Europe/UK announced, now all of a sudden.


Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 2:58 PM

DOOM will not show and will have another imposter in his place. It's his 'schtick' ... understood.

All the white suburban brooklyn hipsters in attendance will be very mad and throw a tantrum inside, maybe even yelling at the stage. But, once they get out of the venue, facebook and twitter about it, then they'll forget about it, and head down to the east village and party so more.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:08 PM

3:08 Yup, that might actually happen. Except, they'll all go back to BK or Queens cuz LES/east village is so 2009.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:18 PM

doom fell off hard. from one of the most energetic and impressive live performers to this lipsync bullshit.

enjoy your 20 min lipsynced set nokia

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:23 PM

i think it's kinda funny.

i mean, if you were plannin on wearin a mask n lip syncing anyways, what's the difference?

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:23 PM

who the fuck is this clown?

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:26 PM

Who cares???? His albums are still amazing! Live hip-hop sucks anyway!

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:38 PM

As long as people enjoy the show, who fucking cares?

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:40 PM

I'm mad about this!

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 3:46 PM

If DOOM wears a mask who cares if it's actually him or not??!?! It's not like he plays an instrument or anything!

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:13 PM

I think it's funny that, at this point, there won't be a DOOM show at which people won't speculate it's not him.

Posted by Jeff | February 22, 2010 4:24 PM

even fake DOOM is still better than 99% of the CrystalBearDarlingGirls flash-in-the-pan bands that everyone raves about on here and forgets who are in 6 months.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:27 PM

was the heat off in that venue? that's quite a warm looking coat.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:28 PM

Nobody complains when the masked men in Daft Punk put on a show. I can tell you almost for certain that is not Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo and Thomas Bangalter up on top of that electronic pyramid. I don't give a shit because that 2007 Lollapalooza show was one of the greatest times of my life.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:32 PM

I copied and pasted those above names straight off Wikipedia by the way.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:33 PM


I bet Subroc wouldn't be too stoked about all of this.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:36 PM

Rumor has it future Doom shows will be filled with audience members who aren't actual audience members.

Posted by soysalami | February 22, 2010 4:37 PM

So when will it be revealed that DOOM and Andrew W.K. are the same person?

Posted by Zosimus | February 22, 2010 4:53 PM

Enough already...
Stop giving these talentless hack hip-hop "artists" your money. It is the not out of the ordinary for these hacks to make you stand around and wait for HOURS beyond the time they were scheduled to go on stage. It has become the norm. I would wait hours for 1977 Led Zep, but Mos Def or this clown? Give me a break...

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 4:59 PM

give me some Necro and Ill Bill. Now that's a decent hip hop show.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 5:06 PM

@4:59

doom is faaaaaar from talentless. anyone who has heard any of his albums can recognize that immediately.

him being a lip syncing-shiesty bastard since 2005ish is the point here.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 5:08 PM

4:59 is 19 and thinks WAVVES is the greatest band ever.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 5:21 PM

4:59 is a racist close-minded fucker!

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 5:50 PM

5:06 is where it is at... I need some fucking Necro Sexorcist shit and some Ill Bill.

Black on Both Sides was great but everything else mos has put out is kinda boring. Doom wears a fucking mask.

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 6:15 PM

New Mos Def CD is really good...give it a chance bitchez!

Posted by Anonymous | February 22, 2010 9:36 PM

"4:59 is a racist close-minded fucker!"

In 2010 you are considered a "racist close-minded fucker" if you don't appreciate hip hop artists showing up whenever they please to lip sync a shit performance. No wonder the music industry is in shambles...

Live hip hop is a joke.

Posted by Anonymous | February 23, 2010 8:18 AM

yeah. dude's a genius. i've seen him live 3 times now. AND HE'S BEEN ON THE MIC ALL 3 TIMES. i was about 10 rows deep center, sound was perfect, his mic was live...listen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjj8IxW9Nk

don't know why he chooses to send imposters or lipsynch...maybe it's when he knows he can get away with it.

the metro and p4k are both high profile establishments, so maybe i have just been lucky.

Posted by Anonymous | February 23, 2010 8:41 AM

saw him @ p4k last year. he was live on the mic. you can hear him style out a bit and ad-lib. maybe it's just the high-profile gigs he lip synchs...but it seemed like that rock the bells show was phony too. sucks that he tarnishes his rep with this shit. he's a bona fide hip hop genius.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjj8IxW9Nk

Posted by Anonymous | February 23, 2010 8:44 AM

Dr Doom iz n da room!

Posted by Regular reader | February 23, 2010 8:49 AM

Tell my horse
He said broads call me Vaughny
I make sure I throws em back if they's too scrawny
Or boney, phoney MCs use a stand-in
Leave him hangin like if I ain't know where his hands been

Posted by Viktor Vaughn | February 23, 2010 11:24 AM

Doom show this Friday @Nokia theatre is CANCELED - so wack

Posted by Jeff | February 24, 2010 2:44 PM

^ what Jeff said.

There's supposed to be a lot of snow, I *guess* it's possible that was a factor, rather than Mos just saying he was too embarrassed to share the stage with a DOOMbot or whatever else might've called it off... The Toronto show is still on for tomorrow though - does DOOM think it'll be easier outside the US?

Posted by Anonymous | February 24, 2010 4:36 PM

i luv their clothes!!!!they rock.

Posted by how to get rid of a yeast infection | March 9, 2010 7:02 PM

DOOM will not show and will have another imposter in his place. It's his 'schtick' ... understood.

All the white suburban brooklyn hipsters in attendance will be very mad and throw a tantrum inside, maybe even yelling at the stage. But, once they get out of the venue, facebook and twitter about it, then they'll forget about it, and head down to the east village and party so more.

Posted by يوتيوب | December 31, 2010 3:54 PM

DOOM hasn't made an actual appearance in years so I am assuming that 'DOOM' is actually just an impostor pulling a Milli Vanilli. It's too bad, it would have been really exciting to actually see DOOM live!

Posted by Peggy Simpson | January 4, 2011 11:17 AM

Oh, and what about those question marks on Sunday's text in the concert poster below? No, that isn't saving a spot for a Smiths reunion or U2 debut on the Coachella stage, it's the way that Yorke presents himself as a solo star, the marquee at his Orpheum concert had the same punctuational flourish.

Posted by منتديات | January 12, 2011 2:38 PM

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Amazing is an enormous understatement. One of the best electronic shows I've ever been to and I've seen well over a thousand concerts. I had no idea Vladislav Delay was as good a drummer & percussionist as he is- fabulous and he kept everything swinging with a very unique style of playing. If you missed this you missed out big time...
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