Posted in music on May 21, 2010

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" Gov. Paterson is going nuclear in the political fight over New York's now-expired ticket scalping law. The state's 2007 scalping law, which removed price caps on the resale of tickets, expired Saturday.

As a result, Paterson is firing off a letter to 56 ticket brokers, including StubHub, reminding them a more restrictive law passed in the 1920s is back in effect. According to Paterson aides, that law prohibits the selling of tickets for more than $2 above face value.

And it prohibits primary sellers like Ticketmaster from tacking on service and delivery fees.

"Ticket resellers must act in accordance with the laws of New York State," the Paterson administration says in a copy of the letter, obtained by the Daily News." [Daily News]

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Comments (48)

NICE!!! I have probably given TM hundreds and hundreds of $$$ in bs fees

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:48 AM

Now they will just raise the price of tickets? Seems fair.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:50 AM

don't get too excited. I doubt this will last long

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:50 AM

woah is this real?

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:50 AM

FUCK YAHHHH!!! its been too long

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:53 AM

Woah maybe that will limit the amount of assholes that just buy up all the great shows here in NYC for the sole sake of re-sale.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:53 AM

Hey BV, is this a late April Fools joke?

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 9:59 AM

It's about time!!

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:05 AM

i hope there aren't any legal gaps in this law
sounds good as a starting point

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:06 AM

so, looks like the Mets are breaking the law, their website links to stubhub where $27 promenade reserved ticket for tonights game is being resold for $83.75. Someone call the DA.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:07 AM

YEAH MAN!

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:09 AM

Don't get too excited...Ticketbastard and Livenation are to powerful to let this happen

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:11 AM

I HOPE THIS STAYS TRUE, SO EXCITING

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:15 AM

HA! I wish this was even do-able
Agreed Anon 10:11

People, theses companies will not just let there profits go! They always come up with another route to all your money.
DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH PEOPLE.
\Lame news stories.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:18 AM

Is this because of fake lady goo goo?

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:19 AM

thought i was gonna pay my september rent scalping pavement tix

Posted by duffy | May 21, 2010 10:19 AM

when the law was in effect tickets were still scalped at the same rate. they can change the law but business will go on as usual.
sounds like someone's fishing for votes.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:22 AM

well, business can go as usual when you're dealing with some shady back alley organizations, but you're talking about goddamned New York Mets for christsakes. How do they justify breaking the law on their website?

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:26 AM

This will mean absolutely nothing in practice. Our Governor is an idiot.

Posted by Funderburgh | May 21, 2010 10:32 AM

"ive Nation Entertainment's secondary ticketing service TicketsNow, has yanked all tickets listed for New York events from its website due to New York's ticket resale law undergoing debate in the state's legislature.

Encore Magazine Online is reporting that TicketNews in the USA says that Live Nation Entertainment has apparently been contacting secondary ticket brokers to inform them that they are pulling out of New York for the time being... and New York represents a major market for ticketing. Concerts broadway shows, and Major League sports have all been affected by the decision. "

Posted by fuk da cynics | May 21, 2010 10:42 AM

Best thing the governor has done or will ever do.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:46 AM

Scalpers got around the law before, and I'm sure they'll find a way to do so again.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:47 AM

NO WHAT ARE THE SCALPERS @ T5 GOING TO DO NOW.. THE GUY WHO ALWAYS WEARS ONE COLOR I'LL MISS YOU <3 <3 <3

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 10:58 AM

First, please don't refer to ticket brokers as "scalpers". Ticket brokers perform an essential service in allowing fans to attend otherwise sold out events. They are an entity that is beneficial to the public.

Second, please be aware reselling tickets is the occupation of said ticket brokers. Ticket brokers are human beings with families to support. By making their trade illegal, Governor Patterson is only serving to increase unemployment and possible illegal activity.

Please write to Governor Patterson and your local congressman to express your outrage over this change.

Thank you.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 11:25 AM

"Ticket brokers perform an essential service in allowing fans to attend otherwise sold out events."

Parse the logic on this one.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 11:32 AM

Yes, yes...think about the brokers, people! For Christ sakes, its not like they are the ones responsible for the tickets not being available in the first place! Did stubhub get this message? The seats for Pearl Jam at MSG start at around $300 and go to over $1000. I mean, that seems fair to me. I think they started at $70 or $80 from TM originally.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 11:38 AM

Ticket scalpers have invented a time machine to go back to 1919, the stop the 1920s law from being passed! One step ahead!

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 11:55 AM

I love Paterson.

too bad he's out after this year, best governor we've had in decades.

the blind black guy thing really fucked him hard.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 12:30 PM

lol at worrying about the jobs and families of ticket brokers

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 12:55 PM

This will just make the broker business more sleazy and shady.

I can no longer rip-off nyc hipsters on the up and up? Now, it has to be back alley now, fine. Good thinking NY. You're always ahead of the game.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 1:18 PM

Ticket brokers do not add any value to society. They are simply a middle man. If they didn't buy up huge numbers of tickets for the sole purpose of reselling them at inflated prices, there would be more tickets available for people who actually wish to attend a given performance.

If this law requires some/all brokers to find another activity to support themselves, we all benefit.

I realize this is an obvious statement, I'm not functioning on all cylinders today.

Posted by why'd I stay up so late? | May 21, 2010 1:28 PM

11:25-

fuck off you pile of shit. get a real job and find some morals while you're looking. "an essential service", my ass...if you weren't around people might actually get to see the shows.

death to all ticket brokers, scalpers and leeches.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 1:34 PM

Nice of Diamond Dave to take some time off from destroying the state budget to think of us concertgoers.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 1:34 PM

"Ticket brokers perform an essential service in allowing fans to attend otherwise sold out events. They are an entity that is beneficial to the public."

Yeeeeeeeeah, but actually no. Let's call a spade a spade. These guys make money by speculating on the value of tickets that they have reserved specifically for the purpose of speculating on. They buy up or reserve tickets, selling out concerts prematurely, creating a larger demand on events, and then put the tickets back out in the market without the constraint of posted price.

Is that not what is happening here? Please correct me if that is not an accurate description of what ticket brokers (previously and now again known as 'scalpers') do.

Posted by Aaron | May 21, 2010 1:38 PM

Ticket brokers are not people.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 2:05 PM

Capitalists are not people. Fair is fair.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 2:14 PM

Ticket brokers are probably great for broadway shows however because they buy up all the tickets and as a result the shows sell out quicker. same for concerts. as much as bands talk a big game, none of them (besides a select few) actually take steps to stop scalpers because in the end, them selling out shows instantly to scalpers, benefits them financially. bands could easily do willcall only and combat the problem but they dont.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 3:02 PM

Good for Patterson for not turning a blind eye to ticket scalpers.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 3:18 PM

"Ticket brokers are probably great for broadway shows however because they buy up all the tickets and as a result the shows sell out quicker. same for concerts. as much as bands talk a big game, none of them (besides a select few) actually take steps to stop scalpers because in the end, them selling out shows instantly to scalpers, benefits them financially. bands could easily do willcall only and combat the problem but they dont."

First off, bands are beginning to try this method out. But I don't know what your definition of "easily" is. Can you imagine a MSG show where every single person had to line up at a will call window? The wait would be hours!

Posted by Ray | May 21, 2010 4:22 PM

Anon 3:18...........I see what you did there.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 4:28 PM

Why does everyone only look at the shows selling for way over face value like Pearl Jam MSG & ignore the Pearl Jam Newark show that was selling for way under face value? Picked up a pair for the show for under $100 total (under what TM charged).

There are so many shows I've seen for under face value because of brokers (scalpers) who could not make money on the tickets. In turn, there are also shows I've paid over face value to see.

I have a job & do not have time to bs with ticketmaster presales and do not mind paying what the market commands.

Through this new law Patterson now forces people such as myself to deal with sketchy websites & people. The deals will still be made. Tickets will continue to be sold for more then what they cost, it just ends up hurting the consumers in the end who are forced to go through less regulated channels outside of ebay/stubhub in order to obtain tickets to a show.

By the way, does this law stop artists from having VIP packages where they take seats up front & charge 2-4x the face value such as Tom Petty & Bob Dylan? I guess we'll have to wait & see.

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 5:11 PM

Gov Patterson is a fairly good governor by NYC extremely corrupt standards and he means well most of the time, but because hes blind the Bermuda closing hospitals, firehouses, schools lying mayor bloomberg gets away with more than ever on the budget and everything else cause someone else cant see the fine print at all.

Live nation will find a around it as will ticketmaster. How many scalpers posted on here defending their b.s.??

Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 6:21 PM

^Live Nation is Ticketmaster, they merged last year.

On the one hand Scalpers/Ticket Brokers do serve a purpose for busy and/or wealthy people/companies who don't have the time available to buy tickets the second they go onsale or who only want the best seats.

On the other hand of course, this makes it harder for those with the time...i.e. most of us on bv...to get good tickets at face.


Posted by Anonymous | May 21, 2010 7:56 PM

it'd be nice if politicians would spend their time working for real beneficial change to ordinary working folks rather than just picking at the low lying fruit that yields responses like the ones in this thread. deal with scalping AFTER you've done something important to tackle homelessness, child poverty, inequalities, violent crime, etc etc

Posted by Anonymous | May 22, 2010 1:20 AM

Stubhub and other brokers are actually useful b/c
1. it provides a wide selection of seats. you can't select the exact seat where you want to sit at the when you buy from ticketmaster/box office.

2. it saves people the ordeal of dealing with shady re-sellers who might otherwise sell them fake tickets.


Posted by anonymous | May 22, 2010 10:08 AM

^I agree w/ 10:08. I also think it'll be nice to pick my seats from Stubhub for an extra $2 per ticket....

Posted by Anonymous | May 22, 2010 1:06 PM

You guys should pay more attention to when concerts you want to see go on sale.

Posted by LOL | June 17, 2010 11:58 AM

Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie were really good albums. Got them when they came out, still throw them on at times and think they're great. It saddens me when I hear bands from that era when I was a teenager and hear their new stuff and it's so clear how they've lost it, they sound desperate to recapture a sound/magic that they haven't had in 15 years (holy shit).... And then I realize that is not unlike a lot of us.

Posted by منتديات | January 22, 2011 7:56 AM

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