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Marty Markowitz @ the 2010 Mermaid Parade (more by Chris La Putt)
Marty Markowitz

Local synagogues and worshipers filed a lawsuit filed today that threatens to pull the plug on Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz's longtime Coney Island summer concert series - along with his $64 million plan to expand them with a new amphitheater.

The suit, filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court, contends that the existing series violate a city law prohibiting amplified sound within 500 feet of religious institutions when they are in session. It seeks a court order to block future concerts.

Two synagogues -- Sea Breeze Jewish Center and Temple Beth Abraham - are across the street and about 300 feet away from the existing band shell used for concerts at Asser Levy Park. Both say they host services daily.

The seaside concert series is set to kick off its 32nd year of free shows - the 20th at Asser Levy - on July 15 with performances by Neil Sedaka and Brenda Lee.

For decades, no one challenged the concerts, but now the synagogues and many Brighton Beach residents who reside in the high-rises next to Asser Levy Park are furious over the Beep's plan to expand the shows with a new 8,000-seat amphitheater. [NY Post] (thx CJ)

The Neil Sedaka/Brenda Lee kick off show on July 15th is just one of seven Thursday night concerts scheduled for Asser-Levy Park this year, and, as the article says, the synagogue members are just pissed at Marty's plan to replace the current bandshell with the new amphitheater. In response to that Marty told the Post, "I never would have thought that in my lifetime a Jewish synagogue would try to take away joy and happiness from tens of thousands of Brooklynites out of spite."

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Comments (81)

Oy Vey!

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:21 AM

I'll trade you 1 basketball stadium in front of your house for 82 Neil Sedaka concerts.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:27 AM

Coney Island {acoustic) summer concert series

There, problem solved

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:29 AM

Grump old people.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:38 AM

irony is that most of the shows here cater to old people anyway.

Only in recent years has there been a slight shift towards acts that bring in a younger crowd.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:43 AM

Are you allowed to tolerate something for decades and then suddenly complain about it and want it stopped? Seems that there should be a statute of limitations on a noise complaint.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:46 AM

So then the CIty itself has been breaking the law all this time? And no one ever called them on it? Let the shows continue. If it hasn't interfered with services for 20 plus years, it ain;t gonna disrupt them now. This is just a bullshit lawsuit by old cranky bitter people who don't like Rock n Roll.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:50 AM

You young people and your rock n roll eight track tapes.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:50 AM

damn old people, always trying to fuck over the younger generations....i saw mountain last year and majority of the people there were senior citizens.. if these shows started last year i understand the need to complain but 30+ years and to start bitching now is unreal...

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:55 AM

Mountain are senior citizens

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:56 AM

you people obviously can't read. The problem is not the concerts. The problem is markowitz wants to build a gigantic amphiteatre in park and take away most of the park for it and now have even more concerts throught the year in the park.
That area is a residential area - and and does not have a lot of green space for the community. So they are objecting because markowitz wants to ruin their park to attrack for more concerts when current one is just fine.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:01 PM

markowitz is a Borough President, but wants to be a bit time concert promoter. Let him build an amphitheatre across the street from his house.
I bet he would'nt want to ruin a park if it was the only park in his community and his precious child could not visit it.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:10 PM

The proposed amphitheater looks like the shit, though. They're going to protest it forever even though it's eventually going to get made anyway, but by that time the architects will have abandoned the project and the building won't be nearly as cool.

Just like the original Frank Gehry Brooklyn Nets stadium. It was all ready to go and then the hippies protested it and Gehry stopped giving a shit, so we get an inferior design. Yay.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:12 PM

Anon @ 12:01

That's fine if that's the actual beef. Say so. But saying it's because of the proximity to the two synagogues is just a disingenuous way to bring religion into the debate. It's dishonest and diminishes validity of the actual complaints about the new ampitheater, which may raise valid concerns. Using religios concerns as a guise to get what you actually want - is just sad.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:14 PM

BTW, Asser Levy park is across the street from the fucking boardwalk and the beach/ocean. I don't think the worry of parks and open space in the community is an issue.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:15 PM

12:15. you don't live in the community so how would you know what their concerns on.

and I am 12:12. The sysnagouge has every right to protest if this new development goes angains the written law. As of now the concerets are only once a week for no more thatn 8 weeks. This amphiteatre will bring paid concerts more frequenlty and will now affect the synagogues to a greater degree than before. Additionally this venue is a wast of $, there are already enough other venues and peopel will not want to travel there on a frequent basis.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:22 PM

Jews control the music industry.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:22 PM

That explains Drake.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:24 PM

I am 12:22, and I was not 12:12 I was 12:01.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:28 PM

Glad you cleared that up.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:31 PM

^^ we know.

Posted by eefef | June 21, 2010 12:37 PM

"The sysnagouge has every right to protest if this new development goes angains the written law."

It's been going against the written law for decades! Where were the protests all this time? I think if you have no problem with something for thirty years and then you find a technicality in an unenforced law somewhere on the books in order to help you fight a different battle then you are not fighting fairly.

And we can read. They are not suing to just stop the building of the future amphitheater., they are suing to stop the concerts now continuing as they stand currently.The synagogue is now trying to stop the EXISTING concerts in the EXISTING bandshell out of spite against the plans for the future project. They were fine with the existing concert series all along but now all of a sudden they are not because of a larger future issue. If there were no plans for the building of the amphitheater. then they wouldn't be suing now to stop the current shows.

"This amphiteatre will bring paid concerts more frequenlty and will now affect the synagogues to a greater degree than before."

One of these temples has services THREE TIMES A DAY, EVERYDAY. How can you compete with that if you are trying to 'not interfere' with their services? Concerts are currently only a handful of dates, only on Thursday evenings and spread out over only two summer months. Even with paid shows and a bigger itinerary, the amount of concerts would never come anywhere near the amount of services these temples hold everyday.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:40 PM

The problem with this area is that this should be a beachfront resort type entertainment mecca. Not a residential enclave for senior citizens and intolerant religious institutions. This is a park right off the boardwalk and beach, right under the subway and blocks from the amusement area. There should be concerts there every single night. They should bring the circus there. The old people should just shut the fuck up and the temple should mind their own business.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:44 PM

Long live Marty and his shows!

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:44 PM

old cranky religious people trying to take away everyone'ss fun by hiding behind an archaic and unused law. sad and frustrating.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:45 PM

Free Thursday night summer concerts equal fun and enjoyment for thousands of multi ethnic and multi religious people of all ages.

Services at Temple on Thursday summer nights while concerts are going on equal spiritual and religious satisfaction for a very small handful of older people from one ethnic and religious background only.

Seems the concerts win in terms of value to the community.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:48 PM

this venue will cost over $50 million. There will definitely be more than 8 concerts a year, and if there are not - then this venue is too big, too expensive to support the summer series, especially since the current setup worked out just fine. This venue is a gross mismanagement of funds and community needs. If this project contues it should be moved to a different place.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:49 PM

"The problem is not the concerts"

Then why pray tell are they suing to stop the concerts?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:50 PM

Yes, obviously the $60 million+ venue will hold more than just the 8 free summer concerts a year.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:52 PM

The synagogues are not the only ones against this. The local community is against it also. You people know nothing about this area except when you venture to concerts one or twice a year and then come back online to complain about the older people there who are not to your liking.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:53 PM

gigantic ampitheatres holding thousands of people should not take the space of a local park that people in area depend on. This should be moved to boardwalk area. It would be more convenient for people to get too, attrack more notice, and it would be more pleasant for people to enjoy concert near water.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:58 PM

Every community in Brooklyn is against any sort of development. This is why it blows to be Marty Markowitz.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 12:59 PM

The local community is comprised of senior citizens who don't like any change or advancements for anyone. They never should have built those apartment buildings there in the first place and they never should have housed all old people in them. It was the wrong place to do it. Now this is the problem that a world class beachfront tourist area has when trying to attract tourism and build upon the area's storied entertainment legacy. They plopped a bunch of intolerant seniors right there in the middle of an area that should have been earmarked for continuous entertainment facilities as was originally in this area. Now look at the problems you have with getting ANYTHING done.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:10 PM

"This should be moved to boardwalk area. It would be more convenient for people to get too, attrack more notice, and it would be more pleasant for people to enjoy concert near water."

Huh? Have you ever been to this place? Obviously not. The park/ampitheater in question is in the boardwalk area, actually right across the street from the boardwalk. It is one block from the subway, so it couldn't be any easier fro anyone to get to, and it is right across the streets form the Ocean, which would be near water.

Seems like it has all the assets you think would be perfect. So there you go.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:13 PM

This should be built on waterfront and not in residential area. The city recently bought land on boardwalk. It should be built there.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:14 PM

The irony of this is that the City sealed it's own fate years ago when they decided to warehouse senior citizens by the boardwalk instead of building up the entertainment and amusement zone. Now when they want to do this, the seniors complain and try to use the City's own laws against it. Pity.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:16 PM

This is not a private gated beachfront senior community like you would find in Florida. This is still part of the City of New York, and is in a part of the city that attracts lots of visitors from all parts for recreation and entertainment. The seniors and religious leaders in this community need to realize this and stop treating their community like a private gated community for seniors.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:19 PM

The problem is that the residential area and the waterfront are too entangled. There shouldn't even be apartment buildings right across the street from the boardwalk.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:21 PM

The real irony is that Marty and most of the performers are also seniors.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:22 PM

Asser-Levy Park is big enough for a new band shell and will still leave plenty of room for all the welfare collecting immigrants to play chess all day, and drink Vodka. As far as the Synagogue is concerned, I've lived right there for over 20 years. I'm Jewish. Never heard of a synagogue having services at 9:00 p.m. on a Thursday.

Posted by Robert | June 21, 2010 1:37 PM

the nearby minor league baseball stadium (formerly keyspan, now MCU park) is so ridiculously underutilized for concerts. Past few years, maybe 2-3 showa max a year.
Why exactly do we need a new venue if the stadium isn't being used to its full potential?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:41 PM

Those old coots will be dead in 10 years anyway. Just wait the old miserable fuckers out.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:46 PM

i agree with most of the above, but 1:41 makes a really solid point.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:52 PM

I used to be a member of the Sea Breeze Jewish Center and if the concerts at Asser Levy Park went on at the same time as prayer, yes, that would totally suck. But the concerts go on after dark most of the prayer should be done before sunset. There's a 15-minute thing that should be done after. If this was really about that, they could just ask for the concerts to start a bit later.

That said, this community is screwed left and right by the local entertainment and I don't blame them for finally saying something. People go to the beaches, amusement parks, etc., make a lot of noise and leave a lot of mess. The locals have to put up with all that without benefiting at all. Sucks.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 1:56 PM

It's all politics and money. Asser Levy Park is a public City owned park, while the stadium is privately owned. Therefore it would probably cost a fortune to rent it out for the free summer shows, while the bandshell is probably either free or covered with modest expenses and local sponsorship. ALso, Marty has been holding the shows at the bandshell in the park for many many years before the stadium was even built so there are probably lots of things already in place for the park shows making them easier to put on then to move the whole entire operation over to the ballpark.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 2:00 PM

Okay the concerts and the temple services have coexisted for decades without a problem, so what is to gain by stopping the concerts now?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 2:01 PM

the golden oldies shows that Marty puts on doesn not need a $60 million amphitheatre. The park as is right now works quite well. This is a multi million dollar enterprise that should join the other entertaiment venues along the boardwalk and the park should not be ruined.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 2:39 PM

Would the amphitheater be louder than the current setup? I could see that being problematic.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 3:05 PM

What if they agreed to only play Klezmer music?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 3:46 PM

a trillion dollars in military spending isn't enough for these people?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 4:22 PM

If you want quiet don't live in Coney Island. Morons.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 4:27 PM

same type of nonsense that happened with the Brooklyn Flea. THe church across the street didn't like all these young hip people having fun across the street from their church on Sunday's while they were having services, so they complained, and now the Flea is on Saturday's instead.

These religious institutions need to realize that they are in a thriving cIty and that just because they are a house of worship doesn't mean they can dictate what goes on across the street from them.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 4:38 PM

Send Neil Sedaka over to the temple to be the guest Cantor for a day in exchange for dropping the suit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 4:40 PM

ok how would you like it if they closed tompkins sq park or washingtonsq park and it became an amphitheatre for a few handful of concerts a year - and it was left with less space?
why doesn't he just put it there for all of you who have no qualms about wrecking a park. Oh but when you don't despise the users then that is a different story?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 5:06 PM

if that jew was hot like Neil Diamond I would give a crap, but he is not, so go listen to your Barbra records and shut the f up!

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 5:13 PM

5:06, the new ampitheater isn't supposed to have a larger footprint than the band shell that's already there. Also they are adding a new playground and other improvements to the park.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 5:19 PM

if there is an amphitheater that is already less space that can be used. Lawn chairs can be folded and put in storage.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 5:24 PM

Anon 5:24. I'd like to see you fold a lawn chair. $10 says you can't.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 6:33 PM

multi-state solution?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 9:23 PM

first they did not want woman in skimpy outfits riding bikes in williamsburg and now they want to ban music in coney island. how far is isreal?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2010 11:21 PM

OK I HAVE READ ALL YOUR BLOG COMMENTS SO FAR.
FIRST OF ALL IT IS NOT SOLELY A SYNAGOGUE ISSUE AS MOST OF YOU HAVE STATED OR A SENIOR CITIZEN ISSUE, IT IS A COMMUNITY ISSUE. THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HAVE A BEAUTIFUL GREENSPACE AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DO NOT KNOW HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SINCE THE 1800'S IF ANYONE CARES TO KNOW. YES IT HAS BEEN AN ESTABLISHED CITY PARK SINCE THEN......
IT IS A PARK THAT GETS UTILIZED 24/7 BY PEOPLE TAKING A WALK, PLAYING BALL ON THE FIELDS OR CHILDREN IN THE PLAYGROUND.
IT IS WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. IT IS A GREENSPACE THAT GETS UTILIZED AS SUCH.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE SUMMER CONCERTS AND SHOULD CONTINUE UNDER THE PRESENT VENUE.
THE PROBLEM IS THE BUILDING OF A PERMANENT STRUCTURE TO CREATE MORE CONCERTS AND ARENA TYPE OCCASIONS ALL YEAR LONG.
MARTY MARKOWITZ HAS A PASSION FOR BROOKLYN AS WELL AS MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS. THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR BROOKLYN TO HAVE AN AMPHITHEATER. IT NEEDS TO REMAIN A GREENSPACE WITH A RENOVATION FOR THE PLAYGROUND, BALL FIELDS AND BENCHES.
THERE IS KEYSPAN PARK IN CONEY ISLAND PROPER, THAT CAN BE USED FOR CONCERTS AS WELL.
IF MARTY WANTS AN AMPHITHEATER IT SHOULD BE PLACED IN ONE OF THE UNUSED SITES WITHIN THE CONEY ISLAND AREA AND WILL CONTINUE TO REVITALIZE CONEY AS IT ONCE WAS. THIS CURRENT PARK IS NOT CONSIDERED CONEY ISLAND PROPER AS YOU WOULD THINK. IT IS A GREENSPACE FOR FAMILIES. THE PARK MUST STAY A PARK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND NOTHING ELSE.
MARTY THIS NOTE IS FOR YOU, BUILD IT CONEY ISLAND PROPER AND ENJOY. LEAVE THE PARK ALONE FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO HAVE ENJOYED IT FOR MANY MANY YEARS TO COME, AND MORE. YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT LIVE IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA SO YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTS DO.
"MARTY I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS ISSUE CLOSELY, STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS ACROSS FROM PARK AND FIND AN ISSUE TO STAND ON. YOU HAVE NONE."

I WILL NOT REMAIN ANONYMOUS AND NETHER SHOULD ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.


PAUL

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 9:08 AM

tldr

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2010 9:23 AM

DEAR TLDR
OR
SHOULD I SAY SOMEONE FROM MARTYS OFFICE
***YOU OBVIOUSLY READ IT***
THANKS FOR READING IT
GIVE MARTY MY REGARDS

GET THE POINT

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 10:07 AM

Hey Paul: A word f advice. If you're going to post a long comment don;t post in ALL CAPS. Most people don;t read it because it is hard on the eyes, and makes you look like a crazy person.

just sayin.

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2010 10:37 AM

"STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS ACROSS FROM PARK"

Excuse me, but they are they ones that mounted the lawsuit which is why this thread even exists.

And I'm not so sure that Marty Markowitz or his office is readung Brooklyn Vegan.

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2010 10:39 AM

"I WILL NOT REMAIN ANONYMOUS AND NETHER SHOULD ANYONE ELSE ON THIS BLOG.

PAUL"

Yeah because only including your first name (which also happens to be a very common name) and not your last name is any different from being anonymous.

hilarious.

So if I sign this comment as Joe or Bob will that make me any more specific a person than Anonymous?


Joe or Bob

or Paul

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2010 10:42 AM

ok i have read all your blog comments so far.
first of all it is not solely a synagogue issue as most of you have stated or a senior citizen issue, it is a community issue. the residents in the area have a beautiful greenspace and for those of you who do not know has been established since the 1800's if anyone cares to know. yes it has been an established city park since then......
it is a park that gets utilized 24/7 by people taking a walk, playing ball on the fields or children in the playground.
it is within a residential area. it is a greenspace that gets utilized as such.
currently there are summer concerts and should continue under the present venue.
the problem is the building of a permanent structure to create more concerts and arena type occasions all year long.
marty markowitz has a passion for brooklyn as well as myself and many others. this is not the place for brooklyn to have an amphitheater. it needs to remain a greenspace with a renovation for the playground, ball fields and benches.
there is keyspan park in coney island proper, that can be used for concerts as well.
if marty wants an amphitheater it should be placed in one of the unused sites within the coney island area and will continue to revitalize coney as it once was. this current park is not considered coney island proper as you would think. it is a greenspace for families. the park must stay a park for the community and nothing else.
marty this note is for you, build it coney island proper and enjoy. leave the park alone for the residents in the area who have enjoyed it for many many years to come, and more. you obviously do not live in this immediate area so you do not know about it as well as the residents do.
"marty i have been watching this issue closely, stop the personal attacks on the religious institutions across from park and find an issue to stand on. you have none."
i will not remain anonymous and nether should anyone else on this blog.

paul

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 10:56 AM

thank you for the constructive criticism.
point taken and mine was also because it was read

second: yes I am sure Marty's office has a Google set to pickup on anything to do with this issues as I do to keep tabs on it.

and yes I think some of the anonymous writers are from Marty's office

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 11:01 AM

oh, and to the annonymous name comment.
even though you say no big deal
It would be better to pick a name so we can see who writes what.

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 11:04 AM

"STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS ON THE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS ACROSS FROM PARK"

Excuse me, but they are they ones that mounted the lawsuit which is why this thread even exists.

You obviously are not completely in tune with the issue.
It is a community issue to which the synagogues are part of.
The petitions against the Marty project are signed by residents not building or institutions....

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 11:08 AM

I LOVE CAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2010 11:30 AM

C I AM NOT ALONE

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 11:44 AM

'It would be better to pick a name so we can see who writes what."

No, on an anoymous blog that doesn't have a sign in, it doesn't matter. A blog where you had to sign in to post, you would only be able to post under that name, so it would make sense. But here anybody can post under any name so I can also post anything I want under the name PAUL

see?

PAUL

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2010 12:03 PM

Who am I? Paul Joe or Bob?

Posted by PAUL. JOE. BOB | June 22, 2010 12:05 PM

there can be 10 anon or one

Posted by PAUL | June 22, 2010 12:20 PM

Gee no comments from
Marty's gang today....

Posted by PAUL | June 23, 2010 7:27 PM

I am wondering, if in fact an amphitheater is built, would the concerts continue to be free? I have been enjoying the concerts for many years, and have seen some of the best. In today's economy, it is a pleasure to get great entertainment for no money, or the cost of a small donation. If $60 million is going into this project, who's going to pay for it? If the concerts are no longer free, ultimately, it will be us.

Posted by A | June 23, 2010 11:24 PM

I have brought that same issue up at community meetings. You are ultimately correct. Also an item that does not get mentioned are the addition of food vendors throughout the park so patrons of the concert can make purchases thus creating a sanitation issue and increased rodent problem....
Applications for a vendor site were given out recently by the city.
So those of you who will read this understand that it is more than an amphitheater IT IS MESS.

To Marty and his raiders do you get the point yet.
Marty are you really a 50 percent owner in the vendors.
***oooppps our little secret***

Posted by PAUL | June 26, 2010 9:03 AM

The schedules are out:

http://www.brooklynconcerts.com/seaside.html

http://www.brooklynconcerts.com/mlk.html

B-52s are pretty definitely the August 19th TBA

Posted by texastab | June 30, 2010 11:34 AM

He posted most of the seaside concerts, but the Wingate Field concerts are newly announced.

http://www.brooklynconcerts.com/mlk.html

Posted by texastab | June 30, 2010 12:21 PM

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