Lollapalooza/C3 being investigated for anti-trust issues

When will this happen to Bowery?

This is considered anti-trust, but there's no problem with the Ticketmaster Live Nation merger? As Yakov Smirnoff says: "What a country."

"pretty standard really"
wonder why the spotlight is on lollerpalooza

because lolla's contract is ridiculous: 300 miles. it interferes with booking as far away as indianapolis, detroit and milwaukee.

"The controversial radius clauses prohibit Lollapalooza acts ranging from the top headliners to the smallest “baby bands” at the bottom of the bill from playing anywhere else in the Chicago area for months before and after their appearance at Lollapalooza in August. Sources have said that the most extreme of these clauses stretch from six months before Lollapalooza to three months after it, and that they encompass a 300-mile radius—which would include concert markets as far away as Milwaukee, Madison, Iowa City, Detroit, and Indianapolis."

Then I guess these bands have a choice to make...

Wonder if Tom Windish has anything to do with this?

What I don't get, in light of this policy, is why so many Lolla bands are allowed to do other local club dates the week of Lollapalooza. If I really want to see Devo but don't wanna go to Lollapalooza, I still can, as they're playing the same week in a local club...as are twenty other bands. Makes no sense to me. Admittedly, these are Lolla-sanctioned "aftershows" (even though some take place before the fest), but the point is still that anyone can go to them without buying a Lolla ticket.

lawsuitapalooza

Since C3 also does the Austin City Limits festival is the radius clause (duration/mileage) the same for acts that play that one?

why worry? most bands playing get paid a generous sum to play the festival. stop bitchin

i don't think anyone is concerned about the bands playing the festival anon 3:32. the lawsuit is on behalf of the venues that are unable to book any of the bands.

From the Sun Times interview:

Q: You could waive the radius clauses for all but, say, the top five or eight headlining bands each day.

Attal: So who is going to decide, “This band gets a radius clause and this band doesn’t?” You can’t do it that way.

What, Charlie Attal? If we can get a man on the moon and you can pull Lady Gaga then you can definitely do it that way. It's very clearly marked on their website who are the main headliners, the second tier, and the third tier. Green Day, Soundgarden, Strokes, Arcade Fire, Gaga, and Phoenix get strict radius clauses, the next tier gets a lighter one, and the third tier should not be allowed to play the surrounding area for two weeks before or after. The fact that Violent Soho, Javelin, The Ettes, etc. can't play a bar in Detroit in August is ridiculous.

they do make exceptions especially with smaller acts in the further away cities... they clamp down closer to Chicago with acts

I think the fact that an Austin based company books a Chicago festival rubs the locals the wrong way a little..

bowery presents already does this. like a month window.

4:16 writes, "I think the fact that an Austin based company books a Chicago festival rubs the locals the wrong way a little.."

Who is saying this? I live in Chicago, and I can't think of anyone who cares where the booking company for Lollapalooza is located--or, for that matter, anyone who even talks about it. The booking company could be on the moon and Chicago would still get tremendous fiscal and cultural benefits from the festival.

Your speculation sounds logical to a non-Chicagoan, perhaps, but it just isn't the point here.

"What I don't get, in light of this policy, is why so many Lolla bands are allowed to do other local club dates the week of Lollapalooza. If I really want to see Devo but don't wanna go to Lollapalooza, I still can, as they're playing the same week in a local club...as are twenty other bands. Makes no sense to me. Admittedly, these are Lolla-sanctioned "aftershows" (even though some take place before the fest), but the point is still that anyone can go to them without buying a Lolla ticket."

-thos are shows that are booked BY the same company. so they control the bands plays and if they let them play another play, the company in question (c3), gets the money and the show and ticket sales after band's guarantee. SO, this means all the local promoters can't do the shows. they control the bands for months before and after the fest as well, so anytime they come through they either can't play or have to play a c3 show/venue. it's a way to control bands touring schedule. and since they book shows all over the country and can control 1/2 of tours and put out of business long standing venues in each city. it's the walmart model. and since the biggest agency in the world is partners on lolla, that means they're in each others pocket for tours/bands anyway.

Since C3 also does the Austin City Limits festival is the radius clause (duration/mileage) the same for acts that play that one?

ANSWER: even stricter I hear in austin, tx.

Who cares? Most of the bands that play Lollapalooza suck anyway.

5:20

That's not the point.

C3 is old piss flaps in Austin, they lost the new shine happening,
I mean who cares 3 cunt flaps about the Eagles...

ACL 2011 - Phil Collins, Mike and the Mechanics, and Hall and Oates...

ACL = FAIL

Anyone know what the Pitchfork Fest radius clause is? Funny that they are not mentioned at all as hurting club biz.

The Pitchfork radius clause is, if I recall correctly the article I read this morning, no local shows two weeks before or after the fest. It's much more liberal than Lolla.

Okay, I was way off with the Pitchfork radius clause. Here it is:

Pitchfork:
Artist will not make a public performance or appearance in Cook County,
Illinois, 60 days prior or after the Pitchfork Music Festival. Artist
will not perform at any “festival” in the states of Michigan, Ohio,
Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota or Missouri 14 days prior and after the
Pitchfork Music Festival July 16-18, 2010.

http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/turn_it_up/2010/06/lollapalooza-one-of-many-festivals-with-exclusivity-clauses.html

first chicago lolla was the best. it was all downhill after that.

I was at a lalapaluzza concert once... But I don't recall much. Had the dank and the hackey sack on heavy rotation during much of the show.

sxsw promoters used to do this too..or are they still doing this?

ACL, also run by C3 does the same thing in Texas for ACL... about 300 miles radius clause, but they have let bands play closer with C3 approval.

House of Blues has a 90 day radius clause.

being investigated for anti-hummus issues