Posted in music on July 9, 2010

Lou Reed, Laurie Anderson & John Zorn @ the Stone in 2008 (wallyg)
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Lou Reed, Laurie Anderson and John Zorn faced a furious crowd on Friday night, playing cacophonous music to a cacophony of boos at the Montreal International Jazz festival. Fans expecting Sweet Jane or Walk On the Wild Side were instead met by the skronk and skree of Reed's more recent free-jazz work, infuriating sections of the crowd. As audience members hollered their complaints, Zorn responded. "If you don't think it's music, then get the fuck outta here." Then the walk-outs began. [Guardian UK] (via)
More than 1,000 people turned out for a night of Reed/Anderson/Zorn improv on July 2nd (a week ago today). Some booed, heckled, walked out, asked (and got) a refund, and went home to complain about it on the internet (other people stayed, some maybe even enjoyed it). A very short clip of the concert is below.

A similar show that took place at The Stone in 2008 is for sale in John Zorn's shop as a live CD. All funds raised from its sale go to benefit the non-profit club. John Zorn next plays the Stone on July 30th.

Laurie and Lou recently went to Australia and Coney Island.

Laurie Anderson plays (Le) Poisson Rouge on Tuesday, July 13th (tickets), and has lots more coming up.

John Zorn will make an appearance at the New Museum on July 13th, and John, Lou and Laurie, as well as Faith No More's Mike Patton, will be getting together again for a show at the NYC Opera in 2011.

Video from the Montreal concert and a press conference from earlier in the day are below...

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Laurie Anderson, Lou Reed et/and John Zorn (2010-07-02) Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier

Laurie Anderson Lou Reed press conference- FIJM - TVJazz.tv

Comments (108)

lolz

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:12 AM

For once, the Québécois have it right. These two irrelevant twits need to hang it up and stop. And John Zorn is overrated musical wankery. Tres bien to those Montrealers who booed these jokers.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:14 AM

obviously canadians have no taste.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:14 AM

Judging from that short YouTube clip, I don't see what was so offensive about the Lou Reed trio. Isn't this the kind of music one would expect at a multiday, multivenue jazz festival?

Posted by Regular reader | July 9, 2010 10:15 AM

this is the kind of lou reed i'd rather see

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:18 AM

@10:14 - Lou Reed irrelevant?!? Zorn overrated??! Typical vapid comment by a know-it-all BV d-bag!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:25 AM

what the hell were they expecting from a trio of these 3?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:27 AM

seriously, who expected "Walk on the Wild Side" at a Jazz Fest?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:28 AM

It's kind of nice to know that people can even be moved that much anymore (in this case to boo, heckle and walk out); that people can be that passionate about music. Pablo Picasso and Erik Satie started a riot once because the audience was so offended by their sounds. And John Cage was no stranger to this kind of reaction.

That said, I could never see myself booing or heckling someone performing music for me. Seems like a nasty, ignorant thing to do. I would just leave if I thought it was so unbearable.

Perhaps this is what Nickleback concerts are like?

Posted by Mortimer | July 9, 2010 10:28 AM

Why do artists feel as though they can express themselves in the 'artistic freedom bullshit? Just stick to what you know - Lou Reed's concept albums are absolute garbage

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:29 AM

John Zorn "wankery". You tapped that ass right with yo head. Zorn licks the dick and so does Reed, lol.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:32 AM

the trio should have known better than to experiment while so far from civilization

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:34 AM

Lou Reed, John Zorn and Dennis Kucinich? Weirdest trio ever. I don't blame those people.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:34 AM

I dig the clip... crazy people walked out. Should jazz people know about Zorn already to know if they don't like it to not go see him?

~Dan

Posted by POSTY McPOSTERTON | July 9, 2010 10:39 AM

10:14- The music you like is better than the music I like. I guess I'll stick with the Velvet Underground....Have your Grizzly Bears and Twin Sisters.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:46 AM

Tickets were something like 100$. They played 4 songs, 12 minutes each.

Posted by Grosse Vase | July 9, 2010 10:47 AM

Going to see Reed with Zorn and expecting to hear Sweet Jane...EPIC FAIL!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:47 AM

Never been a big of the avant-garde in anything, but these people booing are totally clueless, and so is 10:29 AM. No one is forcing you to listen to stuff you don't like.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:48 AM

twin sister sounds like fucking elevator music.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:49 AM

some of the comments are nothing short of awesome. kids, go listen to vampire weekend or grizzly bear. zorn, as well as the company he kept that night, are and intrinsic part of new york city music culture. if you don't get it or don't enjoy it, fine. but to write it off with some of those comments sadly displays your lack of knowledge and interest in only keeping up with whatever shit pitchfork tells you to listen to. brooklyn vegan, keep up the good work in putting out diverse music news. it's not all about four fucking four beats.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:51 AM

1046- must feel good to feel like you made "the right choice"

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:54 AM

4/4 is so fucking over brah. 4/5 is where it's at

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 10:56 AM

fuckin canadians

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:01 AM

The Lou Reed, John Zorn, Laurie Anderson record is the worst of all time. A 45 minute unlistenable version of Dorita. Just a bunch of noise called art. So is a 2 year old banging on a piano. They deserved to be booed, not because Lou should have catered to the audience, but because that music sucks bigtime. Zorn is a total fraud. Again Lou taking the easy road.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:02 AM

I was at the Reed/Anderson/Zorn improv at the Stone. It was good.

It was billed as "improv." What do you expect?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:04 AM

"pollock looks like my 2 year old's fingerpainting"

Posted by hate to be that guy but some people here apparently didn't go to college | July 9, 2010 11:05 AM

I love New York, but people like Anon @ 10:32 are everything that is wrong with New York.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:06 AM

The Lou Reed Trio > Dirty Projectors

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:12 AM

I was at that show. Some people booed, some people walked out. Some of the booers were sponsors from a large Canadian bank who got into the show for free. Some expected that John Zorn was going to play Wlak on the Wild Side. More than one-half of the audience loved the show and gave it a standing ovation.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:13 AM

I think @10:15 makes sense based on that clip. I wouldn't go see Laurie and Lou expecting to hear something "linear" myself.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:13 AM

glad a crowd finally had the ballz to boo this bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:14 AM

it's lou reed...he can do whatever the fuck he wants. people can boo and heckle, but it doesn't change the fact that he wrote white light/white heat.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:16 AM

for better or worse laurie anderson is what tenured music professors jerk off to.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:17 AM

"but to write it off with some of those comments sadly displays your lack of knowledge and interest in only keeping up with whatever shit pitchfork tells you to listen to."

Hate to say it but Laurie Anderson and John Zorn get sevens and eights on Pitchfork, and Lou Reed is Lou Reed. Try again.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:19 AM

Ce spectacle a été une perte de temps. Ce joueur saxaphone sonnait comme il jouait un Zuzuzela.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:20 AM

The above clip wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. Too short to make the call.

However, Laurie Anderson is a hack. Reed and Zorn can improvise, but she does not have the talent.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:22 AM

I saw Jim O'Rourke at Tonic years ago. He also did a set of noise, when I was hoping to hear his more melodic stuff. I thought it sucked, but I just left. I didn't raise a stink or ask for my money back.

Posted by Jersh Niiiii | July 9, 2010 11:24 AM

If it wasn't for VU and their influences, the dude from Beach Fossils would've never had the opportunity to throw his bass into the river. If you want to blame Lou Reed for something, blame him for that!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:31 AM

John Zorn wears those same pants every day.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:31 AM

I love noise. I love noise so much I can't believe I get it for free everyday in my god forsaken city. I love disturbing noise so much I am more than willing to pay to see some saxophonist make sounds my anus makes when I'm on the toliet. Fuck Lou Reed, Long Live Emerson, Lake and Palmer!!!Mothafuckas!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:38 AM

Fuck Montreal. Probably the most interesting thing that happened to that city in a month.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:41 AM

^^^^aside from the maple syrup shortage.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:43 AM

Walking in to Reed?anderson/Zorn show at a Jazz event and expecting to hear Walk On The WIld SIde shows how stupid and clueless some people are. There's a lot of idiots out there that make uninformed decisions to go se something based solely on their one non-informedand unrealistic understanding of what everything in life should/will be. If you knew anything at all about any of these three performers separately much less together as an act, you would never in a million years except too hear Sweet Jane at this particular gig.

All you have to do is do some research on the performer, venue, collaboration, etc to know what to expect. Some morons who have never seen Reed before and don't follow his career, or Anderson's career, and don't even know who Zorn is, just see the name Lou Reed listed and connect the name with the songs they hear on he radio and make a blanket assumption that this is what they will get.... radio friendly classic rock Lou.

People you need to do your homework. It's not too difficult to tell what your getting yourself into with the smallest amount of investigation.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:43 AM

Montreal is wicked mothfuckas, cut the shit nerd cunts.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:44 AM

did lou get inspiration from ledger's "joker" before taking this interview? (or perhaps he just ate)

Posted by basque breakfast | July 9, 2010 11:50 AM

You don't charge $100 if you're not going to play the hits. Is Gene Simmons the only guy who gets this? People pay that kind of cash to see Lou shake his boney ass and play some fuckin' sweet tunes. Don't rip the fans like that in these economic times.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:52 AM

Citi is over $4.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:53 AM

Hating on Montreal is very tired.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:58 AM

Comparing Lou Reed to Gene Simmons is pretty hilarious.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:58 AM

Now Gene Simmons, Laurie Anderson and John Zorn is a trio I'd pay $100 to see.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 11:59 AM

Paul Stanley will be performing a freeform art- Jazz avant- fusion session tonight in NYC.. Venue tba. Expect to hear Rock n Roll All NIite (And party every day)

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:01 PM

Say what you want about Gene Simmons, at least knows he isn't a poet

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:01 PM

@ 11:52 - music is only about $$$ and playing the hits to a crowd of morons...such as yourself!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:03 PM

New York's alright if you like saxophones.

John Zorn and Mike Patton both suck.

I had the displeasure of seeing these two hacks together. Beatboxing over screeching
sax for an hour.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:05 PM

Just announced: Ace Frehley, Peter Criss and Yoko Ono at the Met.

Noise Art Expo 2010. Tickets $100

I can't wait to hear Detroit Rock City and I Wanna Hold Your Hand

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:06 PM

Gene Simmons Poetry reading @ Housing Works Saturday

Tickets $150

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:07 PM

Lou Reed probably wants to fuck Gene Simmons. Now I think we can all agree on that.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:08 PM

@11:17 - LOL

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:08 PM

Peter Criss looks like Yoko Ono. Maybe Asians and cats look a like.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:09 PM

What famous men has Lou Reed blown in his life? Besides Warhol cause he's a hack. You think he blew Jimbo when he was visiting the factory?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:11 PM

Citi is at 4.02. Get in on this shit. We need more minorites investing in stocks. C'mon brothas get your portfolios in order.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:12 PM

Have you ever seen Peter Criss without his cat makeup? Have you ever seen Yoko with the Cat makeup? Has anyone ever seen Yoko and Peter together at the same time in the same room? Hmmmmmmm You may be on to something here

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:12 PM

I love how this thread has evolved (de-volved?} from a discussion of Lou Reed. Laurie Anderson and John Zorn, to a posting on Kiss members. classic!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:14 PM

yeah these are the same people who would have booed the velvet underground in the 60's cause it wasn't what they were use to hearing.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:15 PM

Fuck Lou Weed, buy stocks niggas. Stocks is the new crack. Stocks is the new old english. Buy some Citi. Get some financials in yo portfolios brothas!!

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:17 PM

Here's a question. Who is a better technical musician Lou Reed or Gene Simmons? Seriously.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:18 PM

I'm sort of happy folks from Montreal embarrassed themselves like this.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:29 PM

I like Lou more but Gene is a great bassist. I mean he spits up blood and fire. That's pretty amazing technically.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:30 PM

Who is Lou Reed? Is he a musician of some kind?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:32 PM

Here's a better question: Who's uglier Gene or Lou?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:37 PM

who's technically a better drummer... Mo Tucker or Peter Criss?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:39 PM

Is John Cale a better Violin player than Ace Freheley?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 12:39 PM

doo, doo doo, doo doo, doo, doo doo

Posted by the colored tgirls | July 9, 2010 12:56 PM

10:51 is Marc Ribot

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:04 PM

ha! i'm 10:51, and i am most certainly not marc ribot. but i do love to listen to him in whatever capacity he's playing, be it with zorn, tricky, robert plant, tom waits, etc.

i agree the above comment. it doesn't take too much research to figure out what these three are up to. lou has certainly experimented with, er, more experimental, for lack of a better word, sides of music. and laurie and zorn, that's the base of their careers. and seriously, what shocks me even more is that it was at that particular festival! zorn has played there many times, and that festival is fucking based on noise and things less than cohesive. what on earth did they expect.

and oh, the beach fossil comment was hilarious. i'd like to hear lou's comment on that fucking asshole's action of polluting the waters with his instrument. fucker.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:17 PM

I remember the first time I heard Lou Reed. It was back in the summer of 2007 and I was like, "Damn, this cat's on some next level sh!t."

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:18 PM

Emerson, Lake and Palmer would have blown these guys off the stage. Especially a delicate like Reed.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:20 PM

lou got booed at lolla last year too. deserved it. godawful

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:38 PM

this is why i hate the world. if half the world would kill themselves, i would be happy.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:39 PM

Is John Zorn wearing sandals with socks?! Jesus christ what a fucking creep.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:45 PM

it's times like these, i'm so happy that i saw wang chung at bb king's the other night.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 1:59 PM

Jesus, people. That Montreal performance clip isn't weird at all. I honestly was expecting some pure f-you cacophony. Turns out it was pretty mellow, scale-y, purposeful and textured.

Hearing it was like picking up the milk jug, thinking it's gonna be heavy, but it's empty and your arm kinda jolts upward. Too funny.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 2:01 PM

Lou Polluted the water himself when he walked into it at the Mermaid Parade. He made the ocean grumpy.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 2:19 PM

Even when Lou Reed plays a rock set these days, it is terrible. I walked out of his Lollapalooza set.

Posted by LKJ | July 9, 2010 2:38 PM

since when did audiences have the right to bully artists into playing only what they want them to? it's fucking ridiculous...

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 2:45 PM

lou made some great rock and roll music, he created original mind blowing tunes... i got to see the velvet underground many years ago... lou's old, he's tired of playing those songs, you can't go to a show and expect that edge, that power anymore... don't buy a ticket thinking he's gonna play heroin... it's over...

Posted by moldymind | July 9, 2010 2:59 PM

It isn't the sound they made then that I find sad, it is the sound they after; they brought this upon themselves and have no one but themselves to blame -- in their wistful youth, Anderson and Reed both heavily marketed product brands called "Laurie Anderson" and "Lou Reed" and they plastered those brands so ubiquitously across the western world that people actually began to believe they had value. Remember, it was Andy Warhol who 'made' the 'animal' we came to call Lou Reed, and he went along with it, completely, whole-heartedly, he entered the idol-making machine thinking he had it made.

But what happened when Coca Cola tried to change their beverage? You all remember that. Brand loyalty is a double-edged sword. These pop stars thought they were so clever turning art and culture into pop brands to milk followers, and now they complain that they are now locked in guilded cages??? Well excuse me, but I believe we've been hearing that folk tale for some centuries now, and I cannot believe anyone as supposedly cultured and well-read as either of these two.

If they really cared about the music first, they could have released it under another branding, with a different label on the package. Then when people got there and realized "OMG that's LOU REED!!!" who knows, maybe their idol-worshipping teenybop fans might have started acting their 50-something ages a bit, like the John and Yoko fans did when those two started playing with Ornette Coleman :)

Posted by mrG | July 9, 2010 3:01 PM

Just because an entity called Lou Reed can still refer to itself as such, none of the physical matter that constituted said entity is still retained from the being it was 40+ years ago.
Likewise, the more subtle matter (spirit, life force, energy, etc.) of this being is not likely to remain in large part similar to its former self.
And it is this soul-propulsion that was most responsible for the artistic creations of human Lou.
That is to say, you ain't hearing "Venus in Furs" no more 'cause Lou done lost it.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 3:27 PM

Dear 3:01--
Please include more "meh" and references to Daft Punk set times in your future postings.
Thanks.

Posted by East River Bass bass fishing | July 9, 2010 3:30 PM

What's the best emerson, lake, and palmer song

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 3:46 PM

3:46, you should listen to Tarkus (the whole album)

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:06 PM

I would do very naughty things to Gene Simmons daughter

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:07 PM

3:01 pm: Yes possibly the trio could have given themselves a name for branding purposes that would have set them apart from their collective former output. But then again, the show was not billed as a Lou Reed show, or a Laurie Anderson show or a John Zorn show. It was billed as the three of them, and anyone with a brain should have been able to figure out that when different musicians from different styles of music play together you are not going to get a show that is similar to what any of then would necessarily do separately. And further, why shouldn't a performer play under his or her own name when trying out different genres and/or playing styles different from what they were famous for?

Just because people associate Lou Reed with one form of music doesn't mean if he switches genres he has to switch names. That;s a silly suggestion and implies that whatever genre and form of art that an artist is doing when they are at their most famous and well known and admired is the only form of art they can continue to make under their own birth name because to do otherwise would suggest dishonest marketing? Ridiculous.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:08 PM

Way too much artsy here. Let's get back to the classics.

The Tarkus? I'd hit it.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:21 PM

Jim Zorn > John Zorn

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:31 PM

I was at the show. While some clip can be carefully selected to make the performance to be a lot more than it was ... it was crap. It was more like tree nut cases screaming at pigeons than music.

Posted by Michel | July 9, 2010 4:32 PM

The show was good, I enjoyed it. Sure it was uneven, but what else do you expect from an improv, experimental performance?

All those whining idiots probably didn't even read the description of the show in the program, or realize it was billed as a trio. I'm sure that's why they were dumbfounded.

Like that guy in the (quiet) lobby before the show who kept screaming "LOU REEEEEED!! YEAAAAHHHHHHH!!! LET'S DO THIS!!!!"

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:37 PM

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 4:59 PM

Here's an article about the psychology of audience expectations in specific regard to the Anderson/Reed/Zorn show:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/post/127952-lou-reed-jason-robert-brown-need-more-discussion/

Posted by LKJ | July 9, 2010 5:25 PM

Someone should've gotten an axe and chopped those cables!

Posted by Alan Lomax | July 9, 2010 5:26 PM

yea, where has Cale been the last several years?

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 6:22 PM

^ Do the Google.

Posted by Anonymous | July 9, 2010 7:24 PM

all that aside, Lou is still playing a G chord.

Posted by Pugatch | July 9, 2010 10:35 PM

I like Laurie Anderson playing a tapebow violin, wearing a ski mask and handing out Christmas presents to the audience. I like Lou Reed trundling out the Berlin album. I don't know how I like John Zorn, if indeed I like him at all. Knowing how I like these people, I don't know if I'd pay to see them do a jazz improv, or if I did, I'd realize it's probably not going to be their usual fare and I'd adjust my expectations thusly. Is that weird of me?

Posted by Anonymous | July 10, 2010 9:42 AM

the jazz fest was packed with american tourists in those funny baseball hats. thanks for the money, bros!

Posted by Anonymous | July 10, 2010 10:45 PM

I was there and this topic is kind of blown out of proportion. I wasn't sure if it was a boo or a lou yell. No big deal, John told them where to go and then moved on. Everyone around me seemed entertained. The show was great. Well worth the cost of tickets travel and a night at a hotel.

Posted by Anonymous | July 13, 2010 2:50 PM

Fact:
No Montrealer ever willingly attends an event at Jazzfest. We endure it. We endure YOU.

Posted by Anonymous | August 19, 2010 10:15 AM

I would happily pay $200 to watch Laurie Anderson read the phone book, and Lou Reed can do whatever the hell he wants behind her. Not so big on John Zorn, but he's welcome.

Anyone who would boo Laurie Anderson or Lou Reed is utterly beneath contempt, and I'm ashamed to discover that I actually share the planet with such grotesque idiots.

Posted by Brian | August 24, 2010 10:26 PM

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