Posted in music | pictures on January 4, 2011

photos by Chris La Putt

""Ladies and gentlemen get out of the ring or they will not play"" - Leia Jospe

""That's what i'm talkin about. Carnage. Total carnage. Up the punks!" -guy smoking inside @japanther show/riot/fail, lincolncenter" - Nina Mashurova

"What a mess. Japanther got stopped twice - lights on, music off, so floor could be cleared of moshers. People were booing and throwing shit." - Pamela Z

"Japanther gets shut down at Damrosche Park because it's a "security f**king circus."" - Rozalia Jovanovic

"A riot at the circus #2011" - Leia Jospe

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"that was one of the craziest, oddest shows i've been to in a while. pandemonium broke loose. if tomorrow's day 2 even happens, that'll be the last time lincoln center opens its doors to rock bands. it was pretty fun till the very end. stupid kids, agro's for dorks."
[Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:11 AM]
They probably shouldn't have booked Japanther at the "Rock & Roll Circus" if their goal was complete order. Not only that, Monday night's Lincoln Center-presented show under the Big Apple Circus big top was free. Things will surely be calmer for the ticketed Tuesday night show that Ariel Pink is headlining (assuming it is still happening). More about what happened later (with more pictures of all bands and the aftermath), but in the meantime, you can check out more pictures taken during Japanther's set, below...

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UPDATE: more pictures of the whole show, HERE.

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Comments (72)

Japanther was just doing their thing. They rocked. Security was lame. Somebody (the event planners?) failed to let the house know what kind of band Japanther is and what their shows are like. Maybe they didn't know. Anyways, the fans weren't violent, they were just having a damn good time. The security team didn't know what the hell was going on, after the sleepy bands that preceded Japanther. Anyways, NOT JAPANTHER'S FAULT. All the organizers' fault. Does not bode well for Tuesday night.

Posted by Gianni | January 4, 2011 1:43 AM

Its weird to see people I lived and worked beside in these photos.I used to work at the BAC. The ring curb is really expensive and you have to be careful even walking on it. And making that dirt ring is a long process. It has to be covered when the horses are not in the ring.

I thought it was strange for them to have rock shows under the big top. But I guess they needed the extra money.

Posted by Sasha | January 4, 2011 3:03 AM

Who are these clowns with over sized glasses, prank telephones, and misshaped hats?
Hipsters or the circus?

No the circus has more hard work and talent.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 3:25 AM

Yes - a weird night indeed - been to plenty of Japanther shows and this was definitely an exciting atmosphere but the fault falls on the venue and the bands themselves - yeh maybe the promoters didn't explain what Japanther crowds are like - but the bottom line is that security became very violent and aggressive toward the moshers/dancers that were just trying to have their usual good time.

The show instantly became a power struggle between the anti-establishment and the institution of force and fear. There were multiple instances where I literally saw security grabbing and throwing people to the groud - with the music still going!

Besides thousands of warehouses and punk-house basements, Japanther has played at such places as the Whitney and Guggenheim museums, not to mention on the edge of NYU's pool without a problem - but the Big Apple Circus tent couldn't handle such a performance? Shame on them...

Hopefully this won't deter Lincoln Center from tomorrow's show. Also apologies to Acid Betty - she didn't deserve so many birds flipped her way.

Posted by Maurice Blanco | January 4, 2011 3:49 AM

I heard the crowd was throwing hummus. It was nutz.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 4:29 AM

Thousands?

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 5:11 AM

there are like 40 people there and 30 of them are security

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 6:47 AM

Yeah, the BAC is totally an institution of force and fear. Fucking white kids really have nothing to fight for when they're calling themselves anti establishment and picking fights with Circus security. Good job, rock and roll is officially obsolete.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 7:49 AM

what a bunch of spoiled babies. security at a circus is an "institution of force and fear". grow up.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 7:56 AM

@349, for your sake, I really hope you were attempting sarcasm.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 8:07 AM

White people ruin everything.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 8:36 AM

Dear Hipsters,
This was your Altamont.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 8:43 AM

The footage of Mick Jagger watching this go down is just chilling

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 9:03 AM

Hey .. What's wrong with the white peoople ?

Posted by Barry Rorth | January 4, 2011 9:10 AM

^ Their parents.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 9:16 AM

The promoters are idiots and should accept 99.999% blame. They are known as nightlife party planners. NOT music event producers. And have never coordinated a music event before at any location. They waltzed in with weeks notice, no experience and utilized Big Apple Circus' good name, branding BAC as a supposed conspiratorial partner within all of their promotional materials, when truthfully BAC was NOT involved officially in any capacity other than to rent the space for a flat fee. When you plan a large event like this as an independent promoter, it is the the ---> promoter's <--- responsibility to coordinate security, insurance, ticketing, and so on. Just goes to show these lunatics had no idea what type of crowd the bands (if familiar with the music at all) they'd chosen would draw and hadn't sufficiently prepared.

Hipster fuckers will be disrespectful fuckers no matter where a show might occur. But the promoters have ZERO excuse. And it's disgusting that these morons have soiled an amazing non-profit art institution's good name and expensive sets with their spoiled wannabe egos, no doubt pissing off the powers that be at Lincoln Center which in turn leases the space to BAC, potentially preventing future non-circus events from taking place in the Big Top.

The recession ain't over, so repercussions of the former will affect BAC financially for the long-term in bigger ways than meet the eye.

Posted by Miso Stupid | January 4, 2011 9:20 AM

Maurice Blanco is obviously a friend of the promoters or an alias of one of the promoters. Shame on YOU.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 9:22 AM

this is obviously a one-sided issue

Posted by isfet | January 4, 2011 9:41 AM

This is a joke. What a total non-story. I know brooklynvegan loves to drum up controversy, but there are like 15 people in the pit in those pictures. Post some real news.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 9:48 AM

If Ariel Pink's performance is anything like the crap he pulled on New Year's I expect tonight to be even crazier as the audience will be throwing everything they can find at his whiny little diva ass.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 9:51 AM

what did ariel pink do on new year's?

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:10 AM

Personally, I blame PopChips, JetBlue and all the other corporate sponsors.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:12 AM

Fucking children, Japanther, audience and Mr. Blanco alike. You all need to grow up.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:13 AM

nypost article = LOLz

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:13 AM

Seriously, the show wasn't even crowded. Boring non-event.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:26 AM

white riot

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:36 AM

popchips, man. popchips.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:48 AM

Who?

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 10:58 AM

"Do not throw anything. You will be arrested"
- announcement seconds after a 50-something guy launched a full cup of soda toward the stage

"This was not supposed to be an angry event. This was not supposed to be a... everyone, I'm sorry that the show ended this way..."
- Organizer

"Yo, everyone - it's cool. Punk rock is still alive. Rock and Roll is still alive"
- Japanther bass player, trying to calm the crowd after the show was shut down

"Please exit the tent."
- Announcer

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:21 AM

i was at the show and the bottom line is that asking japanther fans not to rock out at a japanther show is like asking a tree not to stand straight. It's an impossible proposition. Once it became clear that the fans would not be silenced, authority reared its ugly head and security tried to use fear and brutality. Thankfully, Japanther fans didn't back down. It was a great day for punk rock and I hope more fans choose to take back their rock experiences.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:35 AM

Hey Lincoln Center, welcome to Rock & Roll.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:44 AM

Rock and Roll Circus huh? I wonder what the Stones lawyers think of this? Using the name of something so sacred that gets totally smeared by a generation who didn't even know about the original.

A rock concert put on by the remnants of Peter Gatien's club kids who aren't dead, drug counselors, or in jail yet? They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents. This whole fiasco proves again that hipsters and their crowd, like the club kids, are over. NO ONE CARES ANYMORE! Hipsterdom and this type of crowd have been dying since McCarren Pool closed.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:44 AM

Was at the show . Wonderful event until the last act. The negative reaction is totally out of order . Electric Tickle Machine and the so so glos were the top acts and the large crowd enjoyed every minute of it. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the show. Thank you organizers for a wonderful evening .....

Posted by DAN | January 4, 2011 11:44 AM

yes, just wait till ariel pink pulls out his deadpan karaoke act tonight. riots will ensue.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:48 AM

So when are pictures of the mosh pit going to be posted?

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:53 AM

"...authority reared its ugly head and security tried to use fear and brutality. Thankfully, Japanther fans didn't back down."

Seriously, how do you write this shit with a straight face? Am I assuming too much? Either way, you've made an ass of u and me.

I'm not sure why I find this so disturbing. Thirty or so years after the first CBs matinee and busting up BAC sets is some kind of rebellion? Why? Cuz their security were meanies to you? When does the fucking privileged slumming end? Lincoln Center and Big Apple Circus aren't the "man", asshole. Join the real world and figure it out. Liking a band's and wanting to dance is great, but it's not revolutionary politically, culturally or even musically, and it sure as fuck doesn't entitle you to break their shit AND cry like the creepy adult baby you are.

For every goddam fucking Buttholes or Bad Brains or GI or Sonic Youth or whatever show I attended or opened for in whatever EV shithole never once was there any doubt what the deal was, what side of who's bread was buttered, and what the limitations were.

Please for once show some respect and some maturity. If one day a child has the misfortune of erupting from your damaged genes you'll thank your white goyishe god for the talent, work, innovation and shear respite of the Big Apple Circus.

I don't care where you're from, but please, PLEASE, go back home like you are inevitably going to anyway, and bust up mommy's basement and crash daddy's car. NYC is not your alterna-Disneyland and you're not "punk rock." Jerk.

Posted by noisejoke | January 4, 2011 11:55 AM

"Was at the show . Wonderful event until the last act. The negative reaction is totally out of order . Electric Tickle Machine and the so so glos were the top acts and the large crowd enjoyed every minute of it. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the show. Thank you organizers for a wonderful evening ....." --- DAN

obviously one of the promoters. when will you learn that to be a real vegan commenter you have to post anonymously?

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 11:58 AM

The weirdest part of this whole debacle is that the kids were going crazy for .... Japanter?

I think the kids just wanted to rage regardless of what band were playing. Seriously, Japanter? I can't believe they are still around. I guess free shows will always pull the crowds in.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 12:37 PM

@11:55 *SLOW CLAP*

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 12:49 PM

"Rock and Roll Circus huh? I wonder what the Stones lawyers think of this?"

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:02 PM

Don't support the circus! The tourture thier animals!

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:04 PM

Don't support BV commenters. They torture English language.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:09 PM

Someone threw Hummus at the security. Kick him in his vagina!

Posted by RAMONNNNNNNNNE | January 4, 2011 1:13 PM

big apple circus is peta approved. they rescue dogs from the pound and rehabilitate them and use no exotic animals.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:16 PM

I used to crew for Big Apple. What sucks more than anything is their reputation being dragged into this mess. I guarantee they are not to blame.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:24 PM

The biggest mistake security made was not realizing that having everyone in the ring would probably be safer than having everyone in their seats during Japanther. At least in the ring you would be able to move if it got too crazy. The fact that people started to crowd surf and go crazy in the seats was really dangerous and probably caused a lot more injury than would have happened if they had just let everyone stay in the ring...

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:41 PM

Japanther, audience and Mr. Blanco alike. You all need to grow up

Posted by Massagem TerapĂȘutica | January 4, 2011 1:44 PM

"It was a great day for punk rock and I hope more fans choose to take back their rock experiences."

It was a great day for punk rock at a corporate-sponsored gig in Midtown. You are a fool.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 1:53 PM

I was at the show and it did get crazy but overall it was pretty tame considering the bands. The only violence at all in the "pit" was from the security and even then it was pretty mild. Security absolutely overreacted but it could have been much worse. It got crazy for sure but again, with these bands they should have expected exactly this type of thing to happen.

Posted by Matt | January 4, 2011 2:01 PM

that show looks dumb as fuck on the youtube video

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 2:12 PM

spoiled fucking babies.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 2:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOLsxADJOvE

Did the sucker who is talking near the end of this video actually drive all the way down to Florida to hear three Japanther songs?!? Geez!

Posted by anonypus | January 4, 2011 2:25 PM

I wish anybody trying to talk shit and call out the fans were there last night so we would have really started some shit. Dont throw a show at some joke ass old person venue. PERIOD. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 2:27 PM

Way to completely ruin "19th Nervous Breakdown."

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 2:37 PM

Wait, that dude at the end of the video says every time they play they only play 2 or 3 songs? That's some easy money.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 2:40 PM

I wanna reach through the fucking computer and murder anyone that is defending the security "team" last night. They wanted to start a fight last night and because the crowd was "mature" enough they didn't get every last piece of the stupid little fucking brains smashed all over the fucking stupid venue they work for. Shit better be cancelled tonight or the whole place is going to be burned to the fucking ground.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 2:54 PM

LOL @2:54

Thats a terrorist threat. Call the Hummus Task Force.

I wanna reach through the fucking computer and slap all you little wannabe punk rockers and shake you and scream "WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU SHOW UP AT A CORPORATE SPONSORED EVEN AT THE LINCOLN CENTER????"

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 3:00 PM

corporate sponsored event? They wish they got some fucking money. What a bunch of losers.

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 3:01 PM

Maybe somebody sucked off a clown to get their way? Scratch that. Maybe somebody sucked off a juggler?

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 3:20 PM

Fuck this band and all those douche bag hipsters

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 5:00 PM

Sad thing is these fuckers were obviously 'inspired' by whomever produced the amazing CMJ music/circus gig that took place there in October of 2010. i.e. the first event of its kind to have taken place in the Big Top during the circus' residency at Lincoln Center since nineteen fucking eighty, i.e. for more than 30 years. Inspired by the Rolling Stones and it's ripped off, trademarked RARC name my beautiful ass. But have now ruined all future alternative gig prospects for cash-strapped Big Apple Circus, which will likely be prevented from producing future music events what with its landlord, Lincoln Center, breathing fire down its back.

Having worked with the circus in the past, I also recognize Big Apple Circus employees who have nothing to do with security being outed in videos and photos all over the web as security guards. Obviously when things got out of control regular staff members, who all live within trailers on site for the duration of BAC's Damrosch Park season and had probably wandered in out of curiosity, stepped forward. But who can blame them? The band members were acting like obnoxious twats. They KNEW the ring was off limits to audience members, yet invited them 'on stage' anyways. And the audience was filled with disrespectful turds as well. Meaning it's INSANE to be placing the blame on the circus when -----> the inexperienced promoters are clearly at fault <----- . Promoters who have filled their advertising with false claims about having co-produced these two lame events with BAC, from day one in order to benefit from BAC's good name. When in fact BAC merely rented the venue to them for a flat fee, leaving the promoters to coordinate 'the rest'. These idiots never should have booked a band like Japanther for a seated ticketed event in the first place. And should have outsourced a legit security team like every other REAL music promoter does when large crowds are expected.

Posted by | January 4, 2011 6:26 PM

BLAME LIES HERE. WITH THE DUMB ASS PARTY PROMOTERS:

Jessica Resler, Vance Garett, Adarsha Benjamin & Vito Fun.

All of whom are probably loving and laughing about all of the publicity they are receiving, no matter how it affects the non-profit institution that has worked so hard to build and maintain its good name. Creating controversy and PR buzz --- even if negative --- was probably their fucking intent. They lack experience, ethics, honor and most importantly: Class.

Posted by | January 4, 2011 6:27 PM

Dude....this show was lame...I know punk rock...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/90s-punk-decries-punks-of-today,1486/

Posted by Anonymous | January 4, 2011 7:04 PM

check it out, video of the whole shebang:

http://www.vimeo.com/18446938

(Brooklyn Vegan gets quoted, fyi.)

Posted by Zed Zzipco | January 5, 2011 2:50 AM

You people can write some really nasty comments! It was just a mosh pit and some kids doing what they always do at a japanther show.. The rest of the night was really peaceful and fun, I had a great time. It ended a little weird, but that was because the security at the big apple circus got way to agro on the crowd..... but someone writing these comments obviously works for the big apple circus or has some resentment towards the people who threw the show, because they keep writing long paragraphs filled with random details. leave it alone. its only rock and roll.

Posted by Anonymous | January 5, 2011 9:38 AM

this was almost as crazy as last year's warped tour

Posted by Anonymous | January 5, 2011 9:56 AM

this was a riot? so i guess the cro-mags h2o show the other day musta been an armed conflict and any show at cbgbs (rip) was part of world war III.

this japanther band sucks - my high school garage band sounded exactly the same and my lyrics were just as bad. course i was 15 then but i still wonder why we didnt get to play at lincoln center.

obviously the fault is on the event organizers and possibly lincoln center - clearly there should have been a barricade or a security team if they were gonna flip out about people "invading" the ring. its funny bc the cro mags h2o show that just happend at hi line had neither and was obviously much "crazier" than this and there was neither security nor a barricade and there wasn't a single incident. anyone whose been going to shows for enough time knows that problems start when security is outta touch with the crowd, the event space is outta touch with the crowd or some shittie 3 letter crew from boston is around. not this was even a punk rock show, it wasn't even warpd tour 2010.

bottom line - who cares?

Posted by rj | January 5, 2011 10:02 AM

"They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents."
"They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents."
"They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents.""They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents.""They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents.""They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents.""They should go back to snorting K, listening to stupid house music, taking pictures of themselves at parties, and waiting by the mailbox for the next check to come from their parents."

lol lol

Posted by Anonymous | January 5, 2011 11:30 AM

and Posted by Anonymous | January 5, 2011 9:38 AM obviously works for the promoters.

Posted by Anonymous | January 5, 2011 2:18 PM

JAPANTHER CHANGED MY 14 YEAR OLD LIFE
so fuck all you haters you just don't know what its like to have fun!!!

Posted by Penelopzzzz | January 8, 2011 7:22 PM

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