Posted in music | venues on April 6, 2011

Terminal 5, post LCD - 4/5/11 (more by Andrew St. Clair)
Terminal 5

"In New York City, Terminal 5, a 3,000-person venue, has an advantage over similarly sized local theaters. Because it's owned by a local promoter, Bowery Presents, much of the infrastructure -- stage hands, lighting, sound, security, things a band would have to pay for elsewhere -- is in place. This means, Barger says, bands "can make a higher percentage of the earnings in that one room than in any other room in NYC." So even if your favorite mid-sized band would prefer to play a larger venue, one with different acoustics, or one in a different part of town, Terminal 5 can be difficult to resist." [NPR: "The Concert Ticket Food Chain: Where Your Money Goes"]
Cut Copy play their third show in a row at Terminal 5 tonight. The Hold Steady headline the room on Friday. Tickets are still on sale for the latter.

LCD Soundsystem just played there four times. Bao Nguyen was there at the final one, and he made the special video of the last song, which you can watch below...

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LCD Soundsystem - Terminal 5 - New York, I Love You but You're Bringing Me Down

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Comments (157)

bv is just begging for spectacular comments with this one.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:12 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:12 PM

Ive got the matches, whooooose got my gasoline???

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:12 PM

Is BV trolling?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:13 PM

Bao should have directed the p4k webcast. That one video was more interesting than all 3.5 hours of the p4k footage

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:14 PM

Chili dogs are also hard to resist

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:14 PM

You've got the matches? I've got the hummus farts!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:14 PM

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:14 PM

I love James....giant teddy bear!

Posted by The Real Real Yup. PERIOD | April 6, 2011 4:16 PM

I dont like chili dogs! I dont like chili dogs! Linkin Park is cool.

Posted by THE REAL REAL YUP. PERIOD. | April 6, 2011 4:16 PM

Best venue in NYC

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:17 PM

no place can top terminal 5 in terms of sound, sightlines, security, space to dance, cheap drinks, etc. this place is an historical palace of music, and we can only be thankful that bowery presents owns and operates a true gem such as this.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:19 PM

Obviously it all comes down to $$$.

So I challenge you my fellow BV readers, to hold a protest, to picket every show at T5! If those idiots can get tons of people to go around pantless and have pillow fights why can't us hipsters organize a good old fashioned demonstration outside of 610 West 56th Street?!?!

Unless of course you'd rather ramble about LCD and Chili Dogs.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:20 PM

2nd worst venue in the tristate area--1st being Jersey's Starland Ballroom.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:20 PM

Are you guys smoking CRACK? Terminal 5 sucks but I guess when you're 19 and coming in from Jersey...it would be considered 'awesome.'

Posted by The Real Real Yup. PERIOD | April 6, 2011 4:21 PM

WHEN YOU LICK THE TIP OF MY PENIS EGGPLANT FLAVORED HUMMUS EVENTUALLY SPURTS OUT!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:21 PM

Can we please go a day without a single post relating to LCD Soundsystem?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:22 PM

^ 14 yr old

Posted by The Real Real Yup. PERIOD | April 6, 2011 4:22 PM

starland in SLAYERville is bad but gonna have to disagree, T5 is slightly worse

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:23 PM

^ OOOOOOOOHHHHH! Yup just owned.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:24 PM

I like Terminal 5. You NYC people are just spoiled brats. Btw, Webster Hall sucks in terms of sound.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:28 PM

Here's the deal. There are so many better venues in NYC. BOWERY BALLROOM being one of them. Irving used to be ok before The Fillmore threw up over it.

Posted by The Real Real Yup. PERIOD | April 6, 2011 4:28 PM

It's not the Fillmore anymore. They went back to Irving Plaza because no one cared.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:30 PM

It's the not The Real Yup anymore. He went back to anonymous because no one cared.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:32 PM

Yeah, the folks at Irving realized their clientele aren't a bunch of retired baby boomers and that the people don't give a fuck about fillmore posters

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:33 PM

I read the NPR article. It's a fluff piece. If they're going to talk about concerts and "where your money goes", why don't they talk about how promoters, booking agents, and band management scalp tickets on StubHub, driving up the prices of tickets, and screwing the fans?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:40 PM

WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:40 PM

^ DUH

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:44 PM

where?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:44 PM

Haha how true 4:33!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:48 PM

Irving Plaza used to get good bookings. I used to find myself there a lot for some pretty good acts, but I haven't been there in years because its almost all bullshit bands that no one cares about.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:49 PM

Yeah I love it when Phisheads get super bummed about scalpers selling tickets for $200 and then they say they love the band because they are so one with the crowd....blame the damn band for letting the scalpers take hold of those tickets....BTW Phish doesn't care about their fans, they just care about $$$$$$$$. C.R.E.A.M.

Posted by The Real Real Yup. PERIOD | April 6, 2011 4:52 PM

I'm convinced that YUP is a blind deaf homosexual with halitosis, horrible B.O. and laughably poor taste in most things we value. Good show, pussy!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:55 PM

4:55 = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:55 PM

4:58 = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:55 PM

3:36 = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:56 PM

FIRST!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:56 PM

LCD LIVES ON!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:56 PM

So many folks on here jump to their homophobic tendencies when they get pissed...I'll say this agian, it must suck living in middle america in your mom's basement.

Posted by The Real Real Yup. PERIOD | April 6, 2011 4:57 PM

Only redeeming virtue of T5 is the security staff.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:57 PM

OMG, you are so FUNNY
YUPYUPYUPYUP
NOTNOTNOT
smelly tongues look just as they smell
smelly yups look just as they smell
little pussy, prissy pussy prissy prissy LCD forever yupyupyup
AND GOODFELLAS JOE PESCI CUT YER PENIS OFF YOU LITTLE PUSSY

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 4:59 PM

MORE LCD POSTS PLZ!!! THIS IS NOT A JOKE!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:00 PM

I think yup is the last person that should be looking down on anyone on here.

yup y'all need to chill the fuck out sister

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:00 PM

5:39 = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:01 PM

Shit is Faustian

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:02 PM

Yup - we get it, everyone now knows you. can you stop boring us with your bad posts? go to comedy school or something.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:03 PM

b'bye YUP
Don't let the chilidog poke you in the ass on the way out

Posted by N0PE | April 6, 2011 5:07 PM

@4:57 being sarcastic i hope?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:07 PM

Yup, yr an idiot but on yr way to being a meme. Congrats!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:12 PM

HEY THATS MY CUP!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:12 PM

2 BV losers 1 cup

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:19 PM

Does anyone else remember when Terminal 5 had a team of midget (I'm sorry, little people) security? I remember seeing them in full force at the Ween show there in 07...

No, I am not making this up and I was relatively sober that night.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:20 PM

Was Frohawk crying during this performance, too?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:23 PM

Looks like the infantile have descended on BV in force.

T5 is a cancer upon NYC's live music scene.

A very profitable cancer, apparently.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:33 PM

its simple. it sucks when you buy a ticket and youre forced to watch it on a screen. i mean, why even go.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:37 PM

5:33 = pissed at the world, and confused to why the world does not operate according to the rules in his head.

Silly rabbit - BV's for meme's

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:39 PM

Boycott Bowery Presents! Sheep!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:47 PM

low fastball
right in the cup

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:47 PM

5:39: perpetually Mommy's little pooper - no original thought, no money of his own, no hair, no class, no taste.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 5:51 PM

^Gross. But anyway, the LCD posts are getting a little much these days? It's done. We're not that sad. Next?

Posted by DB | April 6, 2011 5:55 PM

5:33 / 5:51 = you keep proving my point, like a puppet! Only, puppets are cute, and your a shitty dweeb. Even anonymous 5:55 is embarrassed for you.

This is why hipsters are really really not cool, kids. But let's no one tell him about the sign on his forehead though, OK?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:10 PM

^ DUH

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:10 PM

T5 Eats ASSSSSSSSS

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:12 PM

I love BV! And I don't live in Williamsburg.
And I make more money than I ever thought that I would.
and more than you
and a full head of hair (although it is a little gray these days)
and I have a big penis
Yes, that big.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:13 PM

"It's not the size of your pencil, it's how you write your name that counts" Dave Mustaine

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:16 PM

Just got my Dinosaur Jr. Bug tix for T5 - IT'S GONNA BE EPIC, SON!!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:18 PM

Terminal 5 is the worst music venue in New York, possibly America.

Posted by jordan | April 6, 2011 6:19 PM

^ TROLL

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:19 PM

6:19 (2) = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:23 PM

6:19 (1) = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:23 PM

6:18 = WINNING

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:23 PM

Anyone shorter than 5'7 should get tickets at half price.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:27 PM

^ Are you charlie sheens intern?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:28 PM

can people please write out which shows sucked soundwise? i feel i have been to a fairly large amount of shows at t5 - and honestly the sound has never bothered me - just wondering what shows people didn't like

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:31 PM

6:27...YES!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:34 PM

Where the hell did Dave Mustaine say that?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:35 PM

Jordan you obviously have not been to venues outside of NYC...I have been to dozens around the country and there are quite a bit more worse than T5. Ever been to the Chane in Poughkepsie, Toad's in New Haven, Avalon in Boston, Paramount in Seattle? I can name many!

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:35 PM

Jordan's a troll.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 6:38 PM

20 feet from the stage at MSG sounded better than 20 feet from the stage at Terminal 5 last week. T5 is weak sauce all around

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 7:03 PM

Oh lord...Toad's

Makes T5 look like Royal Albert Hall

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 7:08 PM

this blog is great, it's you trolls that make it lame. you don't have to visit the blog, nor do you have to go to T5, but it's hard to avoid if bands you want to see keep playing there. it'd be nice if Bowery Presents gave a shit.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 7:13 PM

T5 sound is fine by me too 6:31. i'd like to hear examples from the bitching hipsters - acts, dates, where you were standing. also, was the experience influenced by some fuckwad in front of you with big hair, or some guy steeling your girlfriend or something.

i am not expecting a single bitching hipster to respond to this - it would defuse their bitching, which is their M.O.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:01 PM

this blog is great for everything that happens on this blog...comments included. stupid or otherwise.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:09 PM

T5 has mediocre sound at best. Sight lines would be fixed if the cheap asses would just raise the stage two feet. Would also stop asswipes from pushing so much. T5 crowd is the shittiest.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:09 PM

I'm eating greek olive hummus. I just ate supremely spicy hummus which was supremely spicy by the way. I heard that Reggie Watts was conceived by James Murphy? Where the fuck is frohawk?

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:10 PM

^ IN YOUR CORNY MEMEHOLE

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:13 PM

I'll be "steeling" your girlfriend, 8:01 - if ya know what I mean.

Posted by Tony Starks | April 6, 2011 8:23 PM

Hummus is harder to resist

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:44 PM

Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 8:44 PM

6:13 is trying WAY to hard, and bringing up her inflamed clitoris proves it.

The only thing worse than a young, no-nothing hipster, is an aging, no-nothing hipster.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 9:36 PM

8:10 too meh to comehntate

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 10:09 PM

Terminal 5 is not a live music venue. And that's that.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 10:41 PM

if they raised the stage two feet, how will half the crowd already subjected to the space beneath the overhang on the first floor be able to see anything? (i mean, yeah, they can't see anything as it is).

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 10:52 PM

You guys have not been to Cow Palace or Bill Graham Civic in San Francisco...those are the WORST.

Posted by Anonymous | April 6, 2011 11:07 PM

how much longer until the LCD cruise?

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:04 AM

@8:01

I've been to Terminal 5 a bunch a bunch of times. I fucking hate that place, but it's not like I have much of a choice, and it's obviously still better than no concert.

Reasons I hate Terminal 5:

1)In the middle of fuckin nowhere, 57th and 11th? Seriously? The amount of times I've had to venture out their in the winter, jeez
2)It's impossible to get in contact with the box office or a representative by phone, even on day of show. True Story.
3)Overpriced everything. People that work there are dicks. Stupid stories, like buying a beer for 7 bucks and a few minutes later they won't give me a cup of ice or water. Small stuff like this, it adds up. Though security is usually pretty lax, not gonna lie.
4)30 minute wait for the coat line, automatic
5)Early Curfew. At least I think it's the curfew, I've been to concerts there that were way too short.
6)It's a pretty expensive venue, and scalpers are active for like every single T5 show
7)It's fucking packed in there when its sold out.
8)The truth is, the crowd really does suck there kinda,sometimes,obviously depends on the show. Remember seeing LCD there last May during the 5 night run, the crowd was standing there like fucking bricks, hipster haven, etc. Fuckin irked me, not the only time that's happened either.
9)This past Dec. 27, night after the massive Christmas blizzard where EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING IN THE CITY WAS CLOSED, I had tickets to a concert there (disco biscuits), they were literally the only venue that stayed open, and they wouldn't refund tickets (seriously, fuckin dicks!)

All of this adds up to me getting irked when a band I wanna see plays there. I've been there a bunch, and yea some shows have been fuckin great, and if you're not gonna go to a show because of the venue, you're too self conscious and stuck up anyways. But really, the place is just a pain in the ass, simply put, what more can I say?

Yea, you thought no one was gonna respond, but I'm longwinded and opinionated. YOUR TURN.

Posted by Stephen Whitfield | April 7, 2011 1:08 AM

and there are PLENTY of fuckwads with big hair there. But some cute girls too.

Good things about Terminal 5:

1)clean bathrooms, efficient for cocaine
2)lax(ish) security
3)said cute(for concert standards) girls
4)Gogol Bordello tore the roof down there, January 1st.

Posted by Stephen Whitfield | April 7, 2011 1:13 AM

The best part about terminal 5 is....
Nope.
No best part, it sucks.
PS - hummus

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 2:48 AM

Terminal 5 would be the best opportunity for new bands. They must try go for it.

Posted by Character Education | April 7, 2011 3:14 AM

this site used to be good
now it's few bored jack wagons thinking they are funny

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 7:12 AM

^Would a former drill sargent make a good therapist?

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 7:49 AM

1:08...I think T5 is ok but you are the first person who gave a genuwine list of why you disklike the venue. I appreciate your analysis...

I agree with you on 1, 2, and 7...can't comment on coat check...drinks are also expensive in most NYC venues so it is what it is..

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 7:52 AM

Figure $7 a cup for each beer/drink...with that first picture they sure rake it in!

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 8:11 AM

Bao Rules

Posted by jerseyjonathan | April 7, 2011 8:18 AM

"Does anyone else remember when Terminal 5 had a team of midget (I'm sorry, little people) security? I remember seeing them in full force at the Ween show there in 07..."

i googled this and apparently this actually happened.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 8:35 AM

1:08 ~

Like I expected, NOTHING about the sound, just a laudry list of how you got sand kicked in your face (you hate the beach too?)

1)In the middle of fuckin nowhere
Iowa is in the middle of nowhere. a 5 min. walk from the Columbus Circle stop is hardly in the middle of nowhere. pussy.

2)It's impossible to get in contact with the box office
that is irritating, but not uncommon. toss up.

3)Overpriced everything
this is NYC we're talking about right? you want cheap drinks go back to fucking Iowa, 'K? weak point.

4)30 minute wait for the coat line, automatic
wear your coat, pussy, like 90% of everybody else. it's called being an adult and not expecting mommy to hold your toys while you run to the Toys R Us ferris wheel

my shit, you are a real whiner aren't you?

5)Early Curfew
blame Boomberg. hell, blame Dinkins he's the idiot that started that hot mess.

6)It's a pretty expensive venue, and scalpers are active for like every single T5 show
welcome to NYC, sonny. no soup for you. you go home now.

7)It's fucking packed in there when its sold out.
you're really not a total fucktard, are you? It's packed when it's sold out? Name one place anywhere under the sun that is not packed when it's sold out? Sold out means the venue has sold all the available spaces. asswipe. truly a weak ass bitch right here.

8)The truth is, the crowd really does suck there kinda
crowds suck everywhere. I'll give you that, but it's no different from ANYWHERE else, ergo it doesn't fit the "why T5 is worse than the rest" criteria.

9)This past Dec. 27, disco biscuits literally the only venue that stayed open
if you love music, you'll see this as a chance to see the band with a smaller crowd. I thought you had 2 or 3 points about how the crowds sucked? Make up your damn mind, son.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 9:37 AM

this is pathetic... not even 200 comments on an LCD post!!! FAIL!!!

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 9:48 AM

108th!

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 9:57 AM

first post in this thread, but re: 9:37's response to "packed when sold out" - this is a particular issue with t5 because they count so much space as available that people just are not looking to occupy (i.e., anywhere off the rails on the upper floors and the back bar). so yes, the ground floor does get "packed when sold out" to a larger degree than normal.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 10:27 AM

I'll make a comment on sound - I have tried every single available vantage spot at T5, including VIP for 1 show & there is only one spot with passable sound. Unfortunately, as with most T5 spots, there's a bit of a tradeoff in sightline. So there you go - a concert is meant to be heard AND seen. & you can't really do that well at T5.

The other unfortunate thing is I can't reveal the spot, as it only fits a few people (out of 3k) & I don't want to blow my chances of getting it in favor of hummus man. That said, there is a tradeoff in sightline so maybe you wouldn't want it anyway.

Same comment re: sightlines. VIP section is the only passable spot in the whole venue.

Btw, does anyone on BV know the difference between their/there and your/you're? C'mon now.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 10:30 AM

well thats yor opinion, butface. there milage may very.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:07 AM

@ 9:37,

do you actually exist? You (or someone else) asked for reasons that people rag on T5, and I'm just saying why I don't like place. My reasons aren't good enough for you? Mazal Tov, go there, that doesn't change the fact that I think it's a pain in the ass. You're trying to convince me my reasons aren't good enough to dislike something, you're just a lame salesman,I've been there more than enough to dislike it, SIMPLY PUT.

No I'm not gonna wear my coat when I'm trying to dance and rage.

No I'm not trying to venture to a Concert in the snowstorms when the LIRR and almost every subway is shut down indefinitely.

No, I'm not a "pussy" just because things about that venue irk me enough that I find it more annoying to go there than venues. Like I said, it's not worth ditching a concert for, but by comparison to other Venues, T5 just kind of sucks,and I say this because they obviously book good bands, and I obviously go to them.

Yes, that place is just a pain in the ass in my opinion, and I'm OBVIOUSLY not in the minority with this opinion. If you don't think so, that's obviously fine, but jeez, fuck off you bitter person.

Useless.

Posted by Stephen Whitfield | April 7, 2011 11:21 AM

9:37 is a T5 apologist with low standards. His angry, juvenile rhetoric proves this.

Don't sell yourselves so cheap, my friends. We can do better than T5.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:26 AM

o fuck i'm a dolt - i should have guessed long island. that explains EVERYTHING. you stay on LI, you fucktard; you belong there, obviously.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:27 AM

That's a good band name "You're Your"

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:33 AM

Am I the only one who finds the Terminal 5 "midget security" story absolutely hilarious?

Read the comments from this goldmine of a thread:

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2007/12/ween_played_ter.html

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:45 AM

The Beach on Governors Island is the best sounding, most breathtaking venue in the city. Pain in the ass to get to, but shit is fo real...Fuck T5.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:48 AM

11:26 - let's hear your complaints. you know how to type, do you know how to communicate though? or do you just call people names?

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:50 AM

11:21 ~~ casual observer, but you sound a bit more bitter to me. You listed a bunch of complaints, some of them valid and some of them maybe not so. Overall, I think that a mature conversation should include a tolerance for another opinion. Hey, I'm not saying T5 is great, I'm just saying that you are the one that sounds bitter.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:53 AM

"you stay on LI, you fucktard; you belong there, obviously."


Isn't Brooklyn physically part of LI?

Plus I have frequently observed that the losers who will shit on someone just because they are from NJ/LI are actually originally from NJ/LI. Go figure.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:53 AM

>I'll make a comment on sound - I have tried every single available vantage spot at T5, including VIP for 1 show & there is only one spot with passable sound. Unfortunately, as with most T5 spots, there's a bit of a tradeoff in sightline. So there you go - a concert is meant to be heard AND seen. & you can't really do that well at T5.
The other unfortunate thing is I can't reveal the spot, as it only fits a few people (out of 3k) & I don't want to blow my chances of getting it in favor of hummus man.

Are you talking about upstairs on the Philzone side as close to the stage as possible to the left of the column. With you, dude.

Posted by Owsley Stanley | April 7, 2011 11:54 AM

"The Beach on Governors Island is the best sounding, most breathtaking venue in the city."

LOL

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:55 AM

"Isn't Brooklyn physically part of LI?"

Same way that Ohio is part of California.
Idiot
who's shitting on who, asswipe?

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 11:59 AM

6:27 is 6:34.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:00 PM

"Same way that Ohio is part of California.
Idiot"

That would be true, if Ohio wasn't thousands of miles away and separated by state lines....LI boundaries start at Kings and Queens counties and end at Montauk Point.

Sorry you need to learn geography..?

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:04 PM

>6:27 is 6:34.

Definitely.

Posted by Wiki wiki wiki | April 7, 2011 12:06 PM

you obviously do not understand conceptually that well. must be all the heavy metals in the Long Island groundwater.

Long Island is accepted - by the entire world outside of your head - as Nassau and Suffolk counties. Queens County and King's County (e.g. Brooklyn) is not considered BY ANYONE as being part of Long Island.

Maybe you need a logical lesson, or a civics lesson, or maybe just a pussy beatdown for being a wiseguy.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:07 PM

I'm 11:26. I'm not trying to hate on T5 just for the hell of it. It isn't necessarily the worst venue ever, it simply is a pain in the ass. If a band I'm dying to see is playing there I still go, but if I'm on the fence about a band I'll usually pass.

They oversell the hell out of the place. So what? So does every venue you say? It's different at T5 because they have that dumb little echo-chamber alcove that people wind up stuck in. I feel bad for the poor slobs who wind up there. The balconies are pretty much a waste also. I've also been to a couple of undersold shows there which is better but also annoying because I'm left wondering: if they can't make capacity why don't they just book them in a smaller venue?

Honestly, its hard to comment on sound because it's pretty subjective and depends on where you stand. It's been good and bad, but I'm not really complaining about sound.

Basically it was not designed for what it is being used for and it's obvious.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:10 PM

the alcove = sucks
the Phil zone = LOL

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:15 PM

Just say it: T5 is a sh#t show. Bad sight lines, bad sound, overcrowded, bad neighborhood with nothing nearby for a pregame.

Posted by Bonerama | April 7, 2011 12:15 PM

Love the philzone reference.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:23 PM

Just say it: Bonerama is queer. Queer as a $3 bill.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:25 PM

why would anyone LIKE terminal 5. let's list those.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:43 PM

Terminal 5 would be fine if they just lowered the max capacity..

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:45 PM

yea and moved it 4 avenues east!

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:55 PM

Ever go around that area later at night on a night there isn't a show? It's like an eerie warhouse industial Lynichian movie!

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 12:57 PM

^^^
kinda like Meatpacking / TriBeCa. Oh, that's a good kinda creepy though.
You newbies don't remember when 42nd St. was as desolate and creepy (west of Broadway). It wasn't that long ago.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:04 PM

9:37 is stupid, plain and simple.

T5 might be tolerable if they did lower the max capacity. unless if you're on the rail on the 2nd and 3rd floor, there's no vantage point so way too many people end up cramping on the main floor and inconsiderate people end up trying to move front and center resulting in everyone hating everyone. The sound used to be pretty bad but has gotten a little better. It's manageable, but then you go to a better venue and then you're like, "Fuck, this sounds amazing and T5 actually does suck."

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:04 PM

T5 blows goats.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:06 PM

9:37 is not stupid, IMHO. Abrasive? certainly, but not wrong. I re-read the answers, and I agree with most of them.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:12 PM

Try taking a walk on the West End all the way up to 59th. Now that's creepy.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:12 PM

and the Frohawks go "doo da doo da doo doo da doo doo"

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:25 PM

1:25 wins

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 1:25 PM

1:04 nailed it pretty well.

Posted by Sackulator | April 7, 2011 2:04 PM

1:04 nailed Frohawk?

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 2:11 PM

@11:53,

I sound bitter because I don't like anonymous shit-talking. My first response was a normal, response to a question, and are obviously my opinions, which are obviously subjective. They don't need to be "smart" reasons, but someone asked for personal reasons why we don't like Terminal 5, so I gave mine. Then some troll came and trolled it up, so I got pissy. I didn't comment on sound because I don't pretend on being able to tell the subtle nuances in acoustics, though I agree that sound quality generally isn't so great there.

If people don't like my reasons, by all means disregard what I say, no need to troll though. As a whole, I, among many many others, flat out don't like the venue. My friends agree with me.

One thing also I forgot to mention, simply put it's not an aesthetic place. I don't like the way it's designed, it's not particularly nice, and it just feels like a hotbox in there.

Posted by Stephen Whitfield | April 7, 2011 2:12 PM

Meh.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 2:17 PM

>One thing also I forgot to mention, simply put it's not an aesthetic place. I don't like the way it's designed, it's not particularly nice, and it just feels like a hotbox in there.

It's like being in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.

Posted by Quakenboss | April 7, 2011 2:32 PM

F*CK TERMINAL 5

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 2:45 PM

8:10p, & 8:13pm for da WIN>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 2:46 PM

Oh man, I want to counter to 1:08's arguments too! I don't love T5 but the complaints about are more based around general venue/concert complaints than the concert itself. Here we go!

1)"In the middle of fuckin nowhere, 57th and 11th? Seriously? The amount of times I've had to venture out their in the winter, jeez"

Sorry you're a puss and can't walk 10 minutes in the cold. Seriously, I walk over from where I work (53rd and 7th) and it takes about 15 min.

2)It's impossible to get in contact with the box office or a representative by phone, even on day of show. True Story.

As clearly stated on Bowery Presents site, the MERCURY LOUNGE will have set times and info. Call their box office number.

3)Overpriced everything.

It's NYC, everything is over-priced.

4)30 minute wait for the coat line, automatic

Ever been to Hammerstein? It's worse.

5)Early Curfew. At least I think it's the curfew, I've been to concerts there that were way too short.

The set length has nothing to do with curfew. If the band wants to play a long set, they'll start earlier.

6)It's a pretty expensive venue, and scalpers are active for like every single T5 show

So buy a ticket when they are still available? Not sure how the venue in itself can be expensive. Prices are set by the promoter based on how much $ your favorite band is asking for.

7)It's fucking packed in there when its sold out.

As are most places when they're sold out (such as Roseland)

8)The truth is, the crowd really does suck there kinda,sometimes,obviously depends on the show. Remember seeing LCD there last May during the 5 night run, the crowd was standing there like fucking bricks, hipster haven, etc. Fuckin irked me, not the only time that's happened either.

Crowds are completely based on what band you're seeing and not the venue. So...an MGMT crowd or whoever is annoying in any setting, not just T5.

9)This past Dec. 27, night after the massive Christmas blizzard where EVERY SINGLE FUCKING THING IN THE CITY WAS CLOSED, I had tickets to a concert there (disco biscuits), they were literally the only venue that stayed open, and they wouldn't refund tickets (seriously, fuckin dicks!)

This, again, goes back to you being a huge puss. What was the ticket $30 or so? Blame the band and the promoter, not the venue. If the promoter and band agree to keep the show on, it goes on.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 2:57 PM

this is an important conversation and your opinion matters

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 3:20 PM

if I was a butt cowboy, I wouldn't even throw you to the posse.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 4:06 PM

Also the blue lights in the rest rooms inhibit my intravenous drug usage.

Posted by Anonymous | April 7, 2011 4:19 PM

niiggas liike hummus ? ? y

Posted by Anonymous | April 8, 2011 1:29 AM

9:37 - "hot mess"?!?!?! LOL

GO.

AWAY.

You know nothing.

Posted by Anonymous | April 8, 2011 8:22 AM

As far as crowds are concerned, blame the promoter (ahem, Bowery Presents) for selling beyond legal capacity, and blame security for sneaking their buddies in and taking bribes for letting people in. These things happen at every venue, not just T5. As far as ticket prices are concerned, that is set by the artist, and varies per show.
But $7 a beer is expensive, even for New York.. especially when it comes out of a can. What I do hate about T5, is that the sightlines can suck, if you get there too late for a soldout show.
That being said, for the same reason, Roseland sucks more than T5.

Posted by Anonymous | April 8, 2011 12:59 PM

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