Posted in hiphop | music on June 29, 2011

Odd Future at Highline Ballroom (more by Brook Bobbins)
Odd Future

Notorious Chicago music journalist Jim DeRogatis writes...

When some 20,000 concertgoers arrive at Union Park on July 16 in the middle of this summer's Pitchfork Music Festival, they'll be greeted by members of several Chicago groups dedicated to raising awareness about domestic violence, sexual assault, and violence against gays, protesting that day's booking of controversial rappers Odd Future

This blog [at WBEZ] first asked the question "Pitchfork & Odd Future: Endorsing rape or showcasing art?" in a post on May 2nd that featured extensive comments from festival and Web site honchos Ryan Schreiber and Chris Kaskie, who defended the booking. The interview generated considerable comment here and elsewhere, from people disgusted by the hateful lyrics from the much-buzzed underground rappers dedicated to shock and outrage, as well as from their fans and boosters.

However, Pitchfork rejected a request by Rape Victims Advocates for space inside the fest to present their views, saying that all of the booths for non-profit organizations already had been assigned. And this blog still is waiting for comments from the most notable female performers sharing the weekend's bill with Odd Future: Merrill Garbus of tune-yArDs, Neko Case, and electronica musician Ema.

Yesterday, Between Friends, a nonprofit agency with a 25-year history "dedicated to breaking the cycle of domestic violence and building a community free of abuse" announced that it will be taking to the West Side streets around Union Park, handing out 5,000 cardboard fans "with a powerful message about violence against women and resources listed on them" resulting in "a sea of fans cooling down concertgoers while hopefully getting them discussing the issue and knowing where to turn for help."

The group, which presents educational programs at schools and community centers, frequently makes use of music to illustrate the plague of violence against women--witness its video below juxtaposing Rihanna and Odd Future hero and progenitor Eminem--and some of its leaders regularly attend the Pitchfork Festival, which usually takes pains to be the most socially conscious and community-oriented of Chicago's big musical celebrations. Pitchfork booking Odd Future is not unlike Whole Foods deciding to sell fried Twinkies, factory-bred chicken, and tuna with 10 times the mercury content.

"It's contrary to what they stand for," said Between Friends Programs Director Yesenia Maldonado. "We do respect the fact that they have the right to have the music that they feel people are interested in at their fest. But we'd like to make sure that they have the resources available while they're there. This is a huge venue and we really want for people who haven't heard these shocking lyrics--maybe they're coming for another band and this is the first time they'll be hearing [Odd Future]--we want to make sure that we let them know that this is something that we're taking notice of, and we really want to get the other view out there as much as possible."" -[Jim DeRogatis]

Tickets for the 2011 Pitchfork Festival are still available. The full Pitchfork lineup and schedule and the Between Friends PSA below...

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Between Friends PSA from Wicked Truth on Vimeo.

2011 PITCHFORK MUSIC FESTIVAL SCHEDULE:

FRIDAY, JULY 15 - gates at 3pm
8:30 (GREEN) Animal Collective
7:30 (BLUE) James Blake
7:20 (RED) Neko Case
6:30 (BLUE) Das Racist
6:25 (GREEN) Guided By Voices
5:30 (BLUE) Curren$y
5:30 (RED) Thurston Moore
4:35 (GREEN) Battles
4:30 (BLUE) tUnE-yArDs
3:30 (RED) EMA
3:20 (BLUE) Gatekeeper

SATURDAY, JULY 16 - gates at 12pm
8:30 (GREEN) Fleet Foxes
7:40 (BLUE) Zola Jesus
7:25 (RED) DJ Shadow
6:45 (BLUE) Twin Shadow
6:15 (GREEN) The Dismemberment Plan
5:45 (BLUE) The Radio Dept.
5:15 (RED) Destroyer
4:45 (BLUE) OFF!
4:15 (GREEN) No Age
3:45 (BLUE) Wild Nothing
3:20 (RED) Gang Gang Dance
2:50 (BLUE) G-Side
2:30 (GREEN) Cold Cave
1:55 (BLUE) Sun Airway
1:45 (RED) Woods
1:00 (BLUE) Chrissy Murderbot Feat MC ZULU
1:00 (GREEN) Julianna Barwick

SUNDAY, JULY 17 - gates at 12pm
8:30 (GREEN) TV on the Radio
7:40 (BLUE) HEALTH
7:25 (RED) Cut Copy
6:45 (BLUE) Toro Y Moi
6:15 (GREEN) Deerhunter
5:45 (BLUE) Kylesa
5:15 (RED) Superchunk
4:45 (BLUE) Baths
4:15 (GREEN) Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti
3:45 (BLUE) Shabazz Palaces
3:20 (RED) OFWGKTA
2:50 (BLUE) Twin Sister
2:30 (GREEN) Kurt Vile & the Violators
1:55 (BLUE) How to Dress Well
1:45 (RED) Yuck
1:00 (BLUE) Darkstar
1:00 (GREEN) The Fresh & Onlys
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Comments (63)

Dont even waste your fucking breath.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:50 PM

Just feeding the frenzy. These protest groups are really pretty dumb if they think it'll do any good.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:53 PM

I'm all for turning up the heat on Schreiber, but who really cares at this point?

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:54 PM

This is just how the heads of the nonprofit behind the protest justify their salary. They don't expect anything to happen, just a paycheck at the end of the day.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:54 PM

Yeah Odd Future was old news the day that Tyler's album dropped (and sucked)

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:55 PM

2:54 on the money! Really nice of these guys to call out female artists by name. Lamesauce.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:57 PM

in b4 "free speech art real life race poetry" etc

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:58 PM

Yeah, because putting in their two cents worked sooo well for Tegan and Sara.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 2:59 PM

Let the kids have fun and say whatever they want. They'll be forgotten in 2 years anyway....maybe by next year.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:05 PM

h junkies > shock factor

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:11 PM

i love love love the DeRogatis headline "Pitchfork & Odd Future: Endorsing rape or showcasing art?"

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:12 PM

"Pitchfork booking Odd Future is not unlike Whole Foods deciding to sell fried Twinkies, factory-bred chicken, and tuna with 10 times the mercury content."

really?? that statement would be true if it read something like: "pitchfork booking 3OH!3 is not unlike whole foods blahblahblah..." anyway, i thought the music community was over odd future being outlandish and controversial? i thought everyone accepted the fact that hip-hop, and music in general has always been edgy and controversial, and ofwgkta is just the newest version. big deal. i can't wait to see if their adult swim show actually comes to fruition.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:13 PM

Next year?
Wake up people — Odd Future is already over.
Who is still talking about these guys, aside from the late-to-the-party kids at their shows?

Sure, they're still riding momentum, but I PROMISE you that Pitchfork & Co. are not half as psyched to have them on the bill as they were when it was booked / announced. No way they expected the buzz to deflate this badly by July.

2:55 is bang-on.
Earl better hurry up, cause by the time he gets back there will be nothing left.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:13 PM

This band loves, loves, loves the hype their little shtick is causing. I'd leave it be; they'll be long-gone and forgotten by October.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:14 PM

"They'll be forgotten in 2 years anyway....maybe by next year."

I was going to add to that "or in jail" for doing some of the stupid shit they squawk about. But that could not happen cause these little fake skater bitch kid wannabee toughs would not have the balls to say or do any of that shit for real.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:17 PM

Odd Future is this year's Die Antwoord, but with more swear words and less authenticity to their shtick.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:21 PM

swag

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:21 PM

oddfuturebrilliantblablabla

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:22 PM

yeah screw these fey little twits. Wow a rapper who skateboards and has a layman's knowledge of underground culture. Zzzz......

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:23 PM

Good. Odd Future stinks.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:23 PM

Jim DeRogatis is a twat.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:24 PM

At least DeRogatis panned the New Bon Iver. The one that Pitchfork awarded some ridiculous score to.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:35 PM

3:21-3:24, Shut Up Tyler

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:35 PM

There are actually posts here that make good sense. Whoa, nice job fellas.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:46 PM

What? P4k is dead-on w/ their hip-hop sensibilities. Giving Kanye a 10.0 and hyping Odd Future is totally on point! NOTHING cutting edge here, folks! P4K, stick with indie nerd rock, I liked you better that way!

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 3:58 PM

15 minutes'd. man i thought we were on to the next flavor of the month. what the hell happened here?

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:01 PM

lol @ electronia artist Ema

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:09 PM

I love it when musicians piss off activist fucktards. Free speech!

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:12 PM

Happy to see everyone has turned on odd future. Down to 2 years before they're booked for a juggalo gathering

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:15 PM

how much did odd future pay them to do this? it's getting so old.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:20 PM

still love OF, sucks they aren't consdered bv-cool anymore

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:22 PM

Check the used cd bin at your local record store. It's hilarious how many of those Tyler cd's have already been sold back.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:23 PM

Really though, what's so bad about OFWGKTA/Tyler's lyrics? "Gorgeous, baby you're gorgeous. I just wanna drag your lifeless body to the forest and fornicate with it but that's because i am in love with you. cunt." I said that to my Mother this morning after she made me Toast and Tea (yes, I live with my mother. Yes, I have Toast and Tea in the morningtime).

Posted by Bernard | June 29, 2011 4:24 PM

3:58, I think that Shabazz Palaces is the new face of hip-hop.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:24 PM

@424 you think that a pitchfork looks good enough to fuck

Posted by Bernard | June 29, 2011 4:25 PM

wolfgang will be around longer than shabazz palaces - tyler has a great rapping voice. they'll change their style to adapt, they're not idiots. earl will come back, they'll make an earlwolf album that'll sell like 'goblin,' - they have a few more years on them at least.

Posted by me | June 29, 2011 4:27 PM

why do people keep saying goblin sucked. it was a good cd - yonkers, she, sandwitches (although i guess that's old), analog, nightmare, bitch suck dick are all good shit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:33 PM

"However, Pitchfork rejected a request by Rape Victims Advocates for space inside the fest to present their views, saying that all of the booths for non-profit organizations already had been assigned."


typical excuse. Umm, Make ROOM?

This pitchfork branding of artists and labels that pay into their website for press is sickening. (that may be a whole other topic though)

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:38 PM

dude, I heard pitchfork is owned by Monsanto and GE and their plan is to occupy Libya and create "artist" training camps to be ready for next years marketing. Desert rock is the next wave I hear.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 4:40 PM

4:40, When does sandwave come?

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 5:10 PM

This whole thing was a Supreme ad campaign anyway. Strictly for tourists.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 5:24 PM

Odd future needs some serious help with their beats. The shit is weaker then clock radio speakers.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 5:26 PM

First!

Set times?

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 5:31 PM

this is like deja-vu with outrage about NWA and Eminem. Except that those two acts are/were good!! I don't approve of what Odd Future says, but agree with a lot of people here, the more you give them attention, the more people care!

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 5:43 PM

OF sucks so bad.
I listend to Goblin and I stopped halfway.

When bitchfork gives a bad review for the next record, the hype is OVER!

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 6:11 PM

@429: meh.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 6:46 PM

I heard that Odd future is causing some protests in the hummus community as well. I think they are encouraging Chickpea domestic violence. Frohawk recently did an inside investigation. In his report, he stated that many of the male chickpeas that listened to Odd Future (very few) they all seemed to abuse other chickpeas domestically and look down upon women. Out of anger, the female chickpeas rised to put an end to the Oddfuture violence and anger towards women (whatever, the fuck they protest).

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 7:33 PM

Damn hummus guy, you really phoned that one in.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 7:44 PM

i don't know what hummus guy's problem is. hummus is a complete protein, being a combination of chickpea and sesame, meaning that he shouldn't be depleted of any essential amino acids.
we might consider the impact of sabra's move south, together with the gentrifying effect of the summer festivals (see the olympics), on hg's ability to secure a square meal. maybe some homesteaders/artists will take him in?

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 8:42 PM

a buncha hipsters complaining about a new band being "yesterdays news" on a blog. this cannot be more cliche if you tried. It would only be worse if you were simultaneously listening to the new bon iver album on vinyl and drinking chardonnay as you typed this. by the way, the whole "washed up" thing doesn't work when they were just confirmed to be working with Pusha T, Nas, and have been endorsed by Kanye West and the Black Keys. So go ahead, keep bithching cause theyre only gonna get bigger especially when Earl, the best rapper in the group, comes back.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 9:54 PM

and to whomever posted that odd future is this years Die Antwoord, they sound nothing at all alike and that comparison is totally irrelevant

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 10:01 PM

Once the Pitchfork Music Festival corporate sponsors get wind of large protests generating bad PR they will head for the exits. I bet Pitchfork drops Odd Future from the bill.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 10:20 PM

i really just don't give a shit about any of this anymore.

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 10:45 PM

Eat Hummus, Enjoy Music, Spot Frohawk Dance, Be Merry,

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 11:41 PM

GA GA GA GARBAZO BEANS

Posted by Anonymous | June 29, 2011 11:44 PM

Breaking News: James Murphy and Frohawk were just spotted trying to break into a local grocery store that closed at 9 p.m. The duo's goal was to acquire a few containers of hummus and a few bags of pitas that they could eat while staying up all night playing Daft Punk records.

Posted by Anonymous | June 30, 2011 12:16 AM

10:01pm, I never said they sounded like Die Antwoord but their viral hype fueled by Pitchfork was very similar.

Posted by Anonymous | June 30, 2011 8:26 AM

Jim Derogatis needs to trade his meatball sub for some hummus.

Posted by Anonymous | June 30, 2011 10:34 AM

these people are fucking stupid, not odd future, but those who are against them for their lyrics. it's their fucking songs. let them say what they want. when you keep talking about how bad their lyrics are the more followers theyll get. it's completely fucking asinine to do this. all they are doing is making odd future bigger and bigger so now more people can hear their songs. instead of protesting these artist who sings songs that are "offensive" why not pinpoint why these crimes happen? IE: beer, drugs, bad temper or whatever. maybe put money into areas where domestic violence is at large? find a fucking solution and not point fingers at a bunch of 20-something year olds. i've known girls who have been abused in relationships and its completely fucking wrong to abuse someone in a relationship, but music was NEVER involved. DRUGS and coming from a BROKEN HOME caused it plus being a dick and having a bad temper.
Also, WHY PROTEST AT PITCHFORK FEST BECAUSE OF ONE BAND?

Posted by Anonymous | July 1, 2011 12:37 AM

you mad

Posted by Anonymous | July 15, 2011 7:36 PM

You grow up and you listen to music on the radio. You then have this backlash from your rents who say "This music is crap!" "How can you listen to this?" "In my day, (Insert band here) knew how to play music. "Why are they so vulgar? Do they believe in the devil?"

You hear this and you then understand... Your parents are dull. They have lost the meaning of what it is like to experience and to dream. You go onto dream your own things. You listen to music as a barometer. I am on the edge: I'll listen to Nirvana. or maybe Metallica.

I met a girl from the city. The new Tribe Called Quest is out. I'm going to college with other intellectuals: Kind of Blue is on your iTunes.

You feel music better than your parents. You even listen to what your parents did and agree with some of their music as you grow up.

You then have kids of your own. You get them into what you were into and more. Marvin Gaye, maybe the White Stripes. Who knows.

Then you hear a crazy sound coming from your child's room. You go upstairs, and you gasp as you listen to Odd Future's "Blow", a song about killing a woman?

This is insane! Turn it off you tell your kid. Your child doesn't understand the good music of the past. Not like you do.

And then, someone who was watching your life just realized that you are old, and missed the whole point on your own rebellion. Your own need to define the greatness of hip-hop, the Yea Yea Yeahs, and the ascension of Fleet Foxes.

Instead, mis-understood music must be bad. It sounds like Eminem! It sounds like Insane Clown Posse!

Which Eminem song? Which ICP album? You mean... the ones you didn't LISTEN TO?? Oh I get it. When you become your parents, all bets are off on what is good music.

Did anyone protest Slick Rick and his Davey Crockett song about a man essentially forcing himself upon a woman? NOOO, because it is fantasy.

So fantasy gets a pass for bands like Yes and hip-hop artists like MC Paul Bartman, but Odd Future has gone too far?? Because they mention rape? It isn't because they are creating a persona beyond themselves that defines their music? Isn't that what Maynard James Keenan is doing? While you scroll through his lyrics to define meaning, he is managing a profitable wine seller. Wow, what dark secrets this man must hold!

Become the parents! Its great. Because when you actually want to stay hip with the crowd, the kids will smell old person on you in a second.

And then you will no longer become young, and then resent it. Then everything the next generation does is trash. Just like every generation.

The sad part is we have listened to nearly a century of perceived trash. At some point Jazz was trashy to Classical. Ravel was trashy in comparison to Mozart. Prince was trashy in comparison to Marvin Gaye. Hiphop was trashy in comparison to rock. Metallica, Nirvana, Sonic Youth, John Denver.

The list goes on. You want to wake up and think you are smart. ABRE LOS OJOS.

Or be idiots and make the same mistake other humans did before you. Your pick. Take care.

Posted by Redsoxmaniac | July 16, 2011 5:47 PM

&redsoxmaniac:

To quote one Bill Cosby "Boy, that is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard in my life! No wonder you get D's in everything!"

You know what? My parents thought I was stupid for listening to korn in high school. And you know what? They were right! Korn sucks! They appealed to me because I was STUPID when I was fourteen. Korn is not going to be considered great "art" in thirty years time. And neither is Odd Future. It's lowest-common-denominator music for Inbeciles. Just because it offends people doesn't make it good music. It's the judas priest of 2011. It's not about being cool, or being old, it's about knowing the difference between good music and shit music. Take care.

Posted by Anonymous | July 18, 2011 11:55 AM

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