Posted in metal | music | tour dates on June 20, 2011

by BBG

"A lot of people don't take metal seriously as art, and a lot of people don't take art seriously as ethics. That's fine, I guess -- but as for myself, I do both."
- Hunter Hunt-Hendrix

Hunter at Mercury Lounge (more by Greg Cristman)
Liturgy

Hunter of Liturgy has offered a rebuttal to Chris Grigg and countless others' criticism of Liturgy. Read his entire statement below.

Liturgy are hitting the road in early July for a string of dates with the spazzy Dope Body followed by shows with Chelsea Wolfe across the US before returning to the area in early August. Full tour dates, HHH's statement, and a never-seen-before live video from their recent Knitting Factory show, is below.

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Liturgy - "High Gold"

LITURGY's REBUTTAL (via Stereogum).

There has been a firestorm of criticism in the metal blogosphere about Liturgy and about me personally (ad hominem) and my ideas. I don't know how to respond directly to it because I don't recognize the object of attack -- it is a phantasm, a caricature, something different from the reality of our band and the reality of my personality, beliefs, aims, vision and so on. All I know is that I am not the arch-enemy of the black metal community, and that the internet is a crazy thing. And yet I'm not totally surprised by the reaction. And, though sometimes it makes me feel bad, at other times it fascinates me ... a chord has been struck somewhere.

So here I offer a few loosely related thoughts on black metal and counterculture: black metal is really profound as a culture and as a musical style -- more so than many people realize. I am very interested in an ethics concerned with ecstasy, the transcendental, and affirmation. Liturgy comes from the intersection of these two ideas. For me, black metal's virtue is that it can, using a combination of history, sound, and audacity, activate a connection to a sort of transcendental field, the perennial occult, the Absolute ... that it touches the spiritual and poetic channels of impossibility that are closed up most of the time. Or, at least, this is a potential within black metal. It can be isolated from other aspects of black metal and enhanced by means of cross-fertilization with other resonant forms of music. The task of Transcendental Black Metal is this isolation and enhancement.

Black metal is both an index of the death of the counterculture tradition and a way to to resurrect it. What right do I have to say that? I have none -- but this business of doing things one has no right to do is crucial to my outlook. I think counterculture lost its way when it turned its back on the revolutionary-spiritual-psychosexual-utopian ambition that gave birth to it and settled for a general attitude of "No." Impotent gestures of resistance to a system which will obviously always easily digest and extract exchange value from those gestures, the formation of little subcultures where people escape reality by congratulating each other for resembling one another - that is a dead, or at least very sick counterculture, one that the system has contained. Today the gestures themselves have almost died out. Mostly I just see cynical tribalism and people wanting to seem cool. That goes for almost every subculture, metal or otherwise. The term "Hyperborean Black Metal" refers explicitly to the explicit nihilism in black metal - but its real referent is the implicit nihilism in all rock; it refers to subculture identification as such, which in my view is ultimately a social neurosis, a blockage, something bad.

An American black metal that uses some BM techniques but combines them with the usual Anglo-American punk attitude is maybe inevitably coming into existence, but that's not what Liturgy is, it's not what I'm interested in. I think music should be global, Universal, not anti-anything or -anyone. It should be anti-anti, if anything. And it should be directed towards the universal goodness at the core of every human being, and it should address each person alone, as an individual. Our music is neither aimed at any particular niche audience, like the "metal community", nor the widest possible audience - it is simply the product of an intense urge, and it is directed in principle to anyone, generically.

Part of what drew me to black metal is the courage of members of the second wave. Something in their attitude allowed them to burst through the counterculture's carcass. That attitude is: grandiosity. I grew up more or less in the orbit of punk, but never really fit into it. It's because I've always had an almost unbearably intense sort of Wagnerian ambition ... the urge to create a system glowing with ethical power ... there's just no place for that in punk. But in black metal there is in fact a place for this ambition. I have a sense of pregnancy, in the sense that Henry Miller or Nietzsche talk about pregnancy. I feel pulled by an urge to create, to give birth to the greatest work of art I can possibly produce, with black metal as a starting point and always as a frame of reference. To generate a cultural product that doesn't just express the despicable state of affairs in the world, but something that, on the contrary, is a spark. Something that triggers a higher state, opens up a possibility. And this amounts to a kind of primordial, cosmic, excruciating "Yes." Aesthethica isn't necessarily product, but it is a step on the way. Maybe the whole thing will ultimately fail and the haters will rejoice. Whatever.

A lot of people don't take metal seriously as art, and a lot of people don't take art seriously as ethics. That's fine, I guess -- but as for myself, I do both. These days, when people detect ambition in someone they leap on that person like hyenas. The label "pretentious" is unquestioned as categorically damning. But I think musical culture could use a whole lot more pretension, if anything. It suffers from false, dishonest humility, and from a lack of ambition to be more than either entertainment or a badge of identification with a group. I think the haters have blinders on, and that they are misdirecting their aggressive energy. Somehow, they are hiding.

I'm interested in the act of declaring something and daring others to disagree; there's something magical about it. So maybe the caricature I mentioned above is exactly what I want. It's like planting a little sprout that gets watered from the frothing mouths of those who are enraged by its existence. It is a part of the child-rearing. My word for this is: "The Arkwork." Liturgy is an Arkwork. It's not just the songs, albums, shows -- it's also the reactions, the suffering, the stigma, the misrecognitions, the resoluteness, the unexpected detours. To be "pretentious," grandiose, to remain faithful to an impossible goal, to stay in contact with one's own desire and follow through with its consequences, unsure of what they will be ... to be real. That's what it is to live, I think, and to spread life. I hardly know why I'm writing this and have doubts that it's a "good idea," but the act is consistent I think with the ethic I'm trying to describe.

- Hunter Hunt-Hendrix

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LITURGY - 2011 TOUR DATES
Jul 5 Washington, DC DC9 w/Dope Body
Jul 6 Pittsburgh, PA Brillobox w/Dope Body
Jul 7 Cleveland, OH Grog Shop w/Dopy Body
Jul 8 Bloomington, IN Russian Recording
Jul 9 Chicago, ILWest Fest
Jul 9 Chicago, ILEmpty Bottle w/Dope Body
Jul 10 St. Louis, MO Firebird w/Dope Body
Jul 11 Kansas City, MO Record Bar w/Dope Body
Jul 12 Denver, CO Hi Dive
Jul 13 Salt Lake City, UT Kilby Court
Jul 15 Anacortes, WA What The Heck Fest
Jul 16 Seattle, WAEl Corazon
Jul 17 Olympia, WANorthern
Jul 18 Portland, OR Branx
Jul 20 San Francisco, CA Bottom of the Hill w/Chelsea Wolfe
Jul 22 Santa Barbara, CA Muddy Waters w/Chelsea Wolfe
Jul 23 Los Angeles, CA The Echo w/Chelsea Wolfe
Jul 24 Costa Mesa, CA Detroit Bar w/Chelsea Wolfe
Jul 25 San Diego, CA Casbah w/Chelsea Wolfe
Jul 26 Scottsdale, AZ The Rogue Bar
Jul 28 Austin, TXRed 7
Jul 29 Baton Rouge, LA Spanish Moon
Jul 30 Birmingham, AL Bottletree
Jul 31 Atlanta, GAThe Masquerade
Aug 1 Wilmington, NC The Soapbox
Aug 2 Baltimore, MD Floristree
Aug 3 Philadelphia, PA Kung Fu Necktie

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Comments (95)

too lazy to read all that, can someone give me the gist?

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:08 PM

Congratulations. You just completely cemeted every criticism made of you. I take metal very seriously as an artform. The difference is, many of us actually know what we are talking about, instead of manufacturing some artificial, fantastical profundity to a time signature. Increased condescension is not going to work out well for you in the future. People REALLY do not like being talked down to.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:10 PM

@ 4:08

"Nu-uh"

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:12 PM

Remember the last time someone bad mouthed another black metal musician?

Posted by Varg Vikernes | June 20, 2011 4:13 PM

Most pretentious thing ever? Couldn't even make it halfway through. Fuck this guy.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:13 PM

"Hyperborean Black Metal" is as pseudointellectual and idiotic as the term "cvlt" has been for years. There is great art in black metal, but creating completely unecessary monenclature is the not the way to go to examine it. Constructivism is not analysis. It's masturbation.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:14 PM

ugh... hate to say it but the little cunt's pretty dead-on about the current state of sub-/counter-/'alternative' culture.

could have done without the last paragraph, though.

this also doesn't mean i'm going to listen to liturgy now, either.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:14 PM

4:13- no;pretention usually has some basis in actual knowledge, albeit with a arrogance and greater than real relevance. This has none of the former.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:16 PM

"like planting a little sprout that gets watered from the frothing mouths of those who are enraged by its existence?"

stupidest thing i've ever read

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:17 PM

douchey and pretentious but surprisingly on point in a lot of parts. Will be interesting to see how many panties get bunched up after this.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:18 PM

Hitler

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:21 PM

THAT'S his name???

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:22 PM

L O L.

That is all.

Posted by GK | June 20, 2011 4:29 PM

"hate to say it but the little cunt's pretty dead-on about the current state of sub-/counter-/'alternative' culture."

-and-

"douchey and pretentious but surprisingly on point in a lot of parts. Will be interesting to see how many panties get bunched up after this."

Agreed. Don't ever want to have to imagine him pregnant, though.
>shudder<

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:31 PM

I'd love to know what Fenriz thinks of this.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:32 PM

The alan partridge of williamsburg

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:33 PM

Go back to Middle-earth.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:35 PM

I wish liturgy wasn't boring, this ass needs a reality show

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:38 PM

Now that we have your Mission Statement, you can go away

Please

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:40 PM

wow i never thought i would miss birthday boyz

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:41 PM

for a bunch of smelly long-hairs wearing spikes and their mom's makeup, these black metal types sure know how to spout pretensiousness

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:41 PM

damn, that rebuttal was sooo transcendental.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:51 PM

well this is one way to get people to listen to your shitty ass vocal screeching over later era sonic youth crap.

I never heard them before and played that video while reading that response. I can't believe that is the art he is so vigorously defending.

I would love to know Varg Vikernes' or even Hitler's reaction to this.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:58 PM

I need a dictionary

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 4:59 PM

kinda douchey

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 5:01 PM

Worse than Hitler.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 5:05 PM

Wow Triple H is maaad douchey.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 5:08 PM

Holy shit that video was just awful. Who listens to this crap

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 5:08 PM

Culture Is Not The Enemy

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 5:10 PM

lol you were in birthday boyz your expert black metal opinion doesn't matter

Posted by Tyler B | June 20, 2011 5:20 PM

Hunter Hunt-Hendrix is a really badass name, you gotta admit.

Posted by JT | June 20, 2011 5:24 PM

look what you did you little jerk...

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 6:17 PM

kevin kline's character in a fish called wanda is based on this guy. if you didn't see the movie, he's a posturing, philosophy-skimming idiot. too bad none of his professors ever told him how full of shit he is, that could have saved him a lot of embarrassment.
you're delusional if you think your arkwork transcends anyone's workaday life. tell me about your Absolute when you're working at a coffee house next year

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 6:33 PM

This is gay.Really gay

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 6:34 PM

Liturgy must DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by anonymous | June 20, 2011 6:56 PM

I liked it. He sounds like he actually considers the milieu around what he is making. And he sounds passionate, not self-aggrandizing.

And he basically nailed it. "little subcultures where people escape reality by congratulating each other for resembling one another" is a clear assessment of the hate parade above this comment.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 6:58 PM

Although I do not listen to black metal nor do I even know who this guy is, I like what he is saying and feel he made some really valid points about the new hyper-commercialism of subculture.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:03 PM

The main problem with all this black metal business is the clear lack of any hummus in the subculture. I fear the longterm lack of phyto-nutrients within this community is causing irreparable damage to their endocrine system which as we all know causes deficiencies to the frontal lobe of the cerebral cortex which is directly correlated to music comprehension.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:11 PM

Why are people so surprised by his language? I'd have thought BV readers would be mostly arts or liberal arts majors. He was sort of damned either way, don't respond and appear allof and self satisfied, respond and get a hailstorm or "real metal" vitriol. I don't listen to Liturgy, though I have their first album, this new stuff actually sounds better maybe i'll get it. Whatevs brah! Liturgy are better than some staid, nonsense like Marduk or Carpathian Forest. I'd rather hear a new Thorns album, why don't we talk about that?!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:13 PM

Snorre Ruch practically wrote the last Satyricon record

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:17 PM

Who cares?

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:18 PM

B+ for the essay, D for the music

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:21 PM

6:58 PM I agree

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:24 PM

Thorns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 7:36 PM

This fresh-faced young lady makes some astute observations. I would be glad to sign up for her newsletter.
Signed
Fisher Fish-Fogerty

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 8:11 PM

6:58

totally!

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 8:27 PM

what a cunt

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 9:52 PM

"little subcultures where people escape reality by congratulating each other for resembling one another" - basically, the definition of Metal then.... they all look the same, dress the same, think the same, listen to the same...

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 10:10 PM

^ and you're a fucking idiot.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 11:03 PM

THERE IS ONLY ONE TRIPLE H!!!!!

Posted by Triple H | June 20, 2011 11:06 PM

"little subcultures where people escape reality by congratulating each other for resembling one another" - basically, the definition of Indie then.... they all look the same, dress the same, think the same, listen to the same...

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 11:11 PM

"little subcultures where people escape reality by congratulating each other for resembling one another" - basically, the definition of Metal then.... they all look the same, dress the same, think the same, listen to the same..."

You sound like you're describing hipsters.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 11:13 PM

I agree Thorns shred.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 11:45 PM

My Mom says I am allowed to listen to Liturgies

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 11:51 PM

Liturgy's Hummus Humts

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 12:58 AM

aararrrrrgggggghghghhhhhhara rrrrrrggggaaaaaayyyyyaggggrrr
aaaayayyyyyrrrrggghhh yyyyaaaayyyaaarrrrgggghhh

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 2:08 AM

Ultimately the problem is his need to brand himself as black metal. There's no need to glom onto any sub genre, if you're focus is to create something new, and indefinite. However, if Hunter's essay/"mission"/& rebuttal is a publicity stunt...I say "Hat's off. Well done.".

Posted by Klicka | June 21, 2011 4:05 AM

this guy didn't put booker t over when he should have

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 7:23 AM

All music is noise with a time signature. From Beethoven to Coltrane to King Crimson to Burzum. Metal heads are only concerned with the aesthetics of the notes or noise being produced. The fact that this guy's opinions are up for discussion proves the fickle attitudes of "music fans" and the uselessness of the internet. Everyone go do something useful.

Posted by A Dude | June 21, 2011 8:53 AM

Nvrds

Posted by jk | June 21, 2011 9:46 AM

This guy likes putting himself in his little box I guess.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 9:46 AM

Two words that, in ten years, this guy will hate having uttered:

Transcendental
Universal

Yet another reason why a little critical theory can create a profound mess and overall aesthetic confusion. He sounds like both relativist and a fundamentalist here . . .

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 10:12 AM

Let the music speak for it's self... oh wait it sucks

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 10:39 AM

Does anyone out there really like Liturgy's music? I find it to be extremely boring. To me, that is what is important - the music. That is what should matter most in this discussion and Liturgy's music just isn't very good, in my opinion.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 11:37 AM

he lost me at "the internet is a crazy thing"

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 2:04 PM

this is noise rock with blast beats, not black metal.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 2:28 PM

lost me when brooklynvegan filters blarg posts.

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 3:50 PM

@2:26PM

Don't you mean "noise rock with BURST BEATS"?

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 4:42 PM

This reads like a bad Columbia undergrad philosophy paper... Oh wait...

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 6:02 PM

windchimes are gay

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 9:36 PM

H8rs

Posted by Anonymous | June 21, 2011 10:41 PM

He is just making art.

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2011 4:37 AM

Black Metal is not LITURGY
LITURGY is not Black Metal

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2011 7:59 AM

FIRST

Posted by DYA | June 22, 2011 12:41 PM

Thanks, Hunter. That was actually very inspiring to me. I agree completely. Well said.

Posted by Hank | June 22, 2011 1:54 PM

Mommy, if i choose not to believe in transcendental black metal, does that mean i am going to hell?

Christian Metal = Nazi Reggae (and just perhaps = a transcendental fisting up HHH's ass! oh, i smell what the rock is cookin'!)

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2011 7:33 PM

Thorns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2011 7:50 PM

What happened? Seems like all the nihilists care too much about what this guy has to say. All the black metal heads have amassed to fuel the polarity of one guys extreme thoughts on his music. Liturgy is whatever, Mr. Hunt-Hendrix's thoughts are not new or profound. The kicker is that this guy has shaken all the hard up misanthropic, chaos worshiping black metallers and exposed them as slaves to internet gossip. Hasn't black metal always been about extremism, philosophy and negation? The blackened mass and it's cookie cutter metal feel threatened by this guy? Have you idiot children heard the expression "choose your battles?" All the studded sheep grovel at the cloven hooves of the satanic bastardization of our beloved genre. Fight for something worthwhile instead of feeding the fire of internet bullshit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 22, 2011 9:59 PM

NO U

Posted by DYA | June 23, 2011 1:20 AM

how come no HHH wwf jokes yet..... Hunter Hearst Helmsly

generation X, it all works so well

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2011 4:45 PM

how come no HHH wwf jokes yet..... Hunter Hearst Helmsly

generation X, it all works so well

Posted by Anonymous | June 24, 2011 4:45 PM

Art is art. As long as the creator takes himself seriously, who's who to put down what anyone does.. So in that aspect, do what you must..
HOWEVER, Liturgy is not a satanic band, therefore, they are NOT black metal.
END OF STORY.
and there IS absolutely NO room for discussion. This is dangerous music for a reason. The point isn't to have intellectual chats or board meetings about a new "brand" of black metal.. the point is to use your music/art as a tool, and be the vehicle to spread that message. Satanism comes before the "sound" of Black Metal. If you are not a satanist, or do not walk a dark path & are not spiritual in that aspect, then it means nothing.
Black Metal is NOT Bedford Ave or Verb Cafe or Peter Beste.
Actions, not words Tripple H.

Posted by Anonymous | June 30, 2011 3:46 PM

TIME TO PLAY THE GAAAAAAAAAME

Posted by Anonymous | July 1, 2011 6:43 PM

Y'all are caught up in pissing contests when the water could be better utilized to put out some fires or substitute for drinking water. He's having fun and you are writing about how much you hate it online. It's just music, shut up and play, wake up and listen or disregard entirely, just dont waste your words.

Posted by Anonymous | July 6, 2011 10:47 PM

@3:46pm ...."dangerous"...LOL LOL LOL!!!!

Posted by The Ghost With The Most | July 9, 2011 11:19 AM

Liturgy blows. They played in NYC the same week that Ghost came through, and being a cheap show in the area I checked it out. A gathering of men wearing capri pants, cardigans, thick box rim glasses, tight buttoned up flannel shirts, talking with lisps about their philosophy professors. Whats up with the mustaches, and tweed clothes, you guys aren't professors. Meanwhile Hunter is on stage lisping like an intimidated school girl between each song, talking about how a fly landed on his microphone in a post structural feminist context. The whole show was dead, Hunter walked around in the crowd giving out hugs to his Book Club friends during the opening bands. But seriously what else would you expect from Williamsburg Brooklyn, the coolest of the cool, right?

Posted by Not Impressed | July 12, 2011 7:21 AM

art is not a mirror, but a hammer.

good music, debatable ideology

Posted by Anonymous | July 24, 2011 12:57 PM

Even if there were a GOD, it wouldn't matter.

Posted by Anonymous | August 3, 2011 1:00 PM

i'm surprised how obsessed with this band the metal community is, it seems like everyone loves this band under the guise of hating them . . .

Posted by Rod | August 4, 2011 1:14 PM

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Posted by The Ghost With The Most | August 4, 2011 11:12 PM

It's really funny to see such an important amount of jealousy oozing from all these comments ... this guy might seem pretentious at first, but as other people have said before me, he is before all passionate about his own music ... ambition today is too easy dismissed as pretention while it should be encouraged. Haters, please take some time to listen to Liturgy without any prejudice, and even if it does not appeal to you directly, you'll hear that much work has been put behind the music, and understand in what way it may be "transcendental".

Posted by oscar | August 27, 2011 9:56 AM

This guy has to run his gob so much to make up for the lack of content in his music. The more interesting he sounds to himself, the more he hopes it will cover up the yawn-factor of Liturgy. It doesn't matter how much effort is put into the band, if the music sucks, then it's a fail. All Liturgy is accomplishing is setting their spokesperson up for future regret and embarrassment once he realizes how much of a psuedo-intellectual he's set himself up as. He's not making waves in black metal, making fans and musicians question the genre and it's future. He's just an annoying fly. He's not causing our minds to spin into philosophical pondering, just making us wave our hands to get him to buzz off.

Posted by red-pink | October 3, 2011 1:00 AM

HHH looks like a woman, and his music reeks of elderberries.

Posted by Fart Facker Elliot | November 28, 2011 1:04 AM

Something else is getting slashed and it's not tires. Stay out of Portland motherfucker

Posted by Fuck You | January 13, 2012 8:18 PM

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