Posted in metal | music | tour dates on June 13, 2011

by BBG

Mayhem at Irving Plaza (more by Paul Birman)

After cancelling their last batch of dates, Mayhem will head back out to North America for a fall tour with support from Keep Of Kalessin, Hate, and Abigail Williams. Woe will also join on thirteen dates, though no word on which ones. The tour hits NYC at Gramercy Theater on November 3rd. Tickets info is forthcoming. Full tour schedule is below.

In related news, Woe mastermind Chris Grigg recently penned an open letter to Liturgy's Hunter Hunt-Hendrix, an excerpt of which follows:

To the point, then: we get it, dude. You think you are very, very important. Everything about you oozes a sense of superiority. Looking at only the first few pages of your Transcendental Black Metal essay, we find the following:

You somehow decided that black metal is the "culmination of the history of extreme metal."

You explain that traditional black metal is ultimately unfulfilling: "Hyperborean [traditional, Scandinavian-derived] Black Metal represents the mountaineer's arrival at the peak and a supposed leap off of it... And he is left, crestfallen, frozen and alone, in the Hyperborean realm."

You authoritatively claim the blast beat as belonging to black metal, though far from unique to it, because it allows you to rationalize your I-can't-maintain-a-hyper-blast beat by plainly stating, "the technique of Hyperborean Black Metal is the blast beat."

You audaciously inform us that your work is the next stage of the art's evolution with "[Transcendental Black Metal] is a sublimination of Hyperborean Black Metal in both its spiritual aspect and its technical aspect."

Those passages, the essay on the whole, and every attempt to defend your position shows that you lack even the smallest sliver of modesty or respect for your peers or listeners. These qualities -- rather, the lack of these qualities -- are not unusual for black metal artists to possess; after all, concepts of superiority and elitism are hallmarks of traditional black metal. In your case, though, they do not apply because you have gone so far out of your way to show that you are not the typical black metal musician, you are not part of this world -- you are an outsider wearing some (just some) of black metal's skin. I appreciate you taking the effort to describe what you are attempting to do; however, when you make lengthy, authoritative statements decrying black metal as dead and outdated, when you deride everything that came before you as little more than a failed attempt at something that is unreachable, you're thumbing your nose at everyone who does not see things your way. It's obnoxious. It's rude. It's annoying.

Check out the whole thing at Metal Review. All tour dates and some video is below.

mayhem at cbgb's 6 10 2001

Mayhem live @ The Fillmore at the Irving PlaInter Armaa in NYC 5/21/09

Nov 02 Baltimore, MD @ Sonar
Nov 03 New York, NY @ The Gramercy Theatre
Nov 04 Philadelphia, PA @ Trocadero
Nov 05 Rochester, NY @ Montage Music Hall
Nov 06 Worcester, MA @ The Palladium
Nov 07 Quebec City, QC @ Imperial
Nov 08 Ottawa, ON @ Mavericks
Nov 10 Toronto, ON @ The Opera House
Nov 11 Cleveland, OH @ Peabody's
Nov 12 Detroit, MI @ Blondie's
Nov 13 Chicago, IL @ Reggie's Rock Club
Nov 14 St. Paul, MN @ Station 4
Nov 15 Thunder Bay, ON @ Crocks
Nov 16 Winnipeg, MB @ The Osbourne Village Inn
Nov 17 Regina, SK @ Exchange
Nov 18 Edmonton, AB @ Starlite Room
Nov 19 Calgary, AB @ Dickens
Nov 21 Vancouver, BC @ Rickshaw Theater
Nov 22 Seattle, WA @ El CoraInter Armaon
Nov 23 Portland, OR @ Hawthorne Theater
Nov 25 San Francisco, CA @ The Grand Ballroom
Nov 26 Santa Ana, CA @ Galaxy Theatre
Nov 27 West Hollywood, CA @ House Of Blues
Nov 28 Tempe, AInter Arma @ The Clubhouse
Nov 29 Salt Lake City, UT @ The Complex
Nov 30 Denver, CO @ Bluebird Theater
Dec 02 Dallas, TX @ Trees
Dec 03 San Antonio, TX @ Backstage Live
Dec 04 Austin, TX @ Emo's
Dec 05 Houston, TX @ Scout Bar
Dec 06 New Orleans, LA @ The Hangar
Dec 07 Orlando, FL @ The Club
Dec 08 Atlanta, GA @ The Masquerade
Dec 09 Louisville, KY @ Phoenix Hill Tavern
Dec 10 Charlotte, NC @ Tremont Music Hall
Dec 11 Springfield, VA @ Jaxx



Comments (54)


Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 12:48 PM


Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 12:50 PM

Sure, Hunt-Hendrix is a little pretentious, but who in black metal isn't pretentious? If they're annoying people they're probably doing something right.

Posted by Jeff | June 13, 2011 12:50 PM

It's about time someone in the scene took the time to call out Liturgy's ever deepening well of horse shit. I mean, there have been rumblings about Liturgy's insincerity for a long time, but a well articulated essay perfectly illustrating Liturgy's arrogance and pompous rejection of their forbears has been long overdue. Their very existence and borderline popularity makes me sick and violent. And violently sick.

I know I am not the metal dude in these parts, but of all the bands covered here who are guilty of being hacky shit monkeys, Liturgy takes the cake.

Posted by Klaus Kinski | June 13, 2011 12:55 PM

Woe is playing the stretch between 11.3 and 11.13.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 12:55 PM

the true mayhem!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 12:55 PM

why don't they call "black metal" "white metal"??

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 12:56 PM

If they had just settled on calling themselves noise rockers (because that's what it essentially is,) none of these black metal bands would be on their case.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:00 PM

Jeff : By your logic, Christina Aguilera is the next Bob Dylan.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:03 PM

how much do you want to bet Mayhem cancel?

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:08 PM

Who cares? Really, this is middle school stuff...high school at best

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:08 PM

The second show is in NYC, I say we a have a very good shot at seeing them . I weep for those waiting to see the lower dates. At least I have already seen them.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:11 PM

Woe is good, Liturgy is good. Is the Liturgy dude pretentious, no doubt. But so what, they've made two great records. Is you don't like 'em, don't listen!

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:17 PM


Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:17 PM

@ 1:00 - noise is becoming the most over-used descriptor in new york these days. liturgy is not noisy at all. in fact, they are very melodic. 75% of the bands that are called "noise rock" are actually playing very normal melodies and just using more than one guitar pedal.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:20 PM

All I'm saying is that black metal, no matter how much controversy it may have ginned up at one point or another, is an oddly conservative genre. Listen to any three Immortal albums in a row and you'll see what I'm getting at. So, if Liturgy feels like messing with those conventions, I'm all for it. (though for the record, a lot of USBM is pretty progressive, so they're hardly the only ones doing something a little different)

Posted by Jeff | June 13, 2011 1:20 PM

Jeff: I know what you were saying. I was really just messing with you. But HHH so obviously just doesn't have a clue, it is painful.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:34 PM

I agree with non-Jeff 1:20.

Noise at this point describes bands who don't know what they fuck they're doing

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:34 PM

Liturgy=black metal ladyboys

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 1:57 PM

@ Jeff: If you throw on Pure Holocaust, Blizzard Beasts, and At The Heart of Winter (let alone later stuff) and you think they all sound the same, then you're probably not a big black metal fan, don't know the difference between death and black metal and don't distinguish between melodic bm and non. But why I'm even replying to this is beyond me. I think it's because it beats working and lets face it, that headline was unstoppable. Anyway, nevermind.

Posted by Audrey | June 13, 2011 2:02 PM

"melodic bm?"

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 2:55 PM

OMG (back up everyone)!!!!! I'M TRENDING!!!!!!!!! AGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 2:59 PM

does anyone have a good pesto recipe, preferably one that doesn't have pine nuts. they are so expensive.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 3:04 PM

if you simply skip the pine nuts, your pesto will be fine - the consistency may be softer, but the taste is relatively unaffected... and Liturgy fucking sucks ass, but even if they didn't it would be impossible to ever listen to them again after all of this shit.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 3:20 PM

you can always substitute toasted chickpeas for pinenuts when making pesto.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 3:42 PM

Why hasn't Hunter universally been nick-named Triple H? Come on people, get with it!

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 3:48 PM

I make bm everyday

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 3:57 PM

Liturgy is pretty good music, i just dont watch any interviews after i saw one.

He just seems young and thinks he knows everything, like we all have.

Posted by Txn | June 13, 2011 4:00 PM

Liturgy must DIE!!!!!!

Posted by anonymous | June 13, 2011 4:13 PM

@ 3:04 use walnuts instead of pine nuts. you will be stoked.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 4:49 PM


Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 5:12 PM

You could blend in basil into your hummus too.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 5:30 PM

Liturgy are mediocre, their songs are too long and have no hooks. Is that their point? I don't know, their music is too boring for me to work it out. I want to listen to music not a concept?

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 6:18 PM

Yes, we get it, Liturgy blows.

Now how about changing the subject (or staying on topic?), or at least come up with something clever (that isn't hummus related, which will automaticaly certify you a douchenozzle, as if that wasn't obvious enough already).

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 6:25 PM

Both of these dudes sound pretty annoying to me. Why go out of your way to try to what, publicly shame someone? Don't really see the point. Hunter's annoying and pompous just like ALOT OF PEOPLE. So what, the rest of the band is super nice. And I do think SOME of their music is interesting (ie. the attempt to meld black metal with the sounds of what glenn branca was trying to maybe do in the early 80s). Are we not into post black metal? I am not an expert, just a listener with an opinion do not get confused.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 6:53 PM

6:53, it had to be done. This guy is giving metal (and music in general) a bad name. He, like anyone else talking shit, has to be called out. Enough is enough. The guy is fucking annoying. This isn't some random metal head lambasting some random metal head. It's a metal head who is speaking for a LOT of people

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 7:08 PM

I like to use walnuts and arugula and no garlic..
Just a little bit of crushed red pepper.. Also. Pecorino Romano instead of parmigan..

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 7:22 PM

7:08 I guess I see your point, I just never really saw liturgy as a 'metal head' band, or maybe even a metal band to begin with. Not sure what they're doing, and maybe Hunter doesn't either, hence all the over compensating rhetoric. Still like the music though.

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 7:51 PM

black metal that shit is retarded just plain and simple silly....who cares

Posted by Anonymous | June 13, 2011 9:23 PM


Posted by Anonymous | June 14, 2011 12:12 AM

9:23: yet you took the time to post. People don't listen to you when you talk throughout the day, do they?

Posted by Anonymous | June 14, 2011 9:10 AM

@7:22 - no garlic? how does that even approximate pesto then?
garlic, oil, basil, sea salt. maybe some lemon juice. you don't need the pignioli or any other nut, i'm telling you.

Posted by Anonymous | June 14, 2011 11:32 AM

While were on this, here's a follow up question: Does anybody know how many eggs go into a really good banana bread recipe?

Posted by Anonymous | June 14, 2011 12:01 PM

I agree with all of you

Posted by Anonymous | June 14, 2011 7:19 PM

Mayhem are playing yeah? They've been shit since Varg killed Euronymous

Posted by Anonymous | June 14, 2011 7:21 PM

Talk to Charlie Benante about the blast beaat.

Posted by Anonymous | June 16, 2011 1:45 PM

Woe and Liturgy? seriously, who gives a shit about either of these bands.

Posted by Anonymous | June 20, 2011 11:05 PM


Posted by Anonymous | July 4, 2011 9:48 PM

this stinks of jealousy and the response is more pretentious than the essay. when will everyone get off of Liturgy's nuts already?

Posted by Rod | August 4, 2011 1:17 PM

Liturgy is annoying and rude, yes. Woe is a fucking amazing band. Chris is what the guys from Liturgy can never be; a black metal musician that makes awesome music and stands apart from the crowd without putting in any pretentious effort.
Oh, and who the hell invited Abigail Williams to tag along on this tour? Probably a ploy to get some tryin' to be cool teenagers to spend their parents money so they can brag about seeing the infamous Mayhem- while really only going to kiss AW's ass.
I'd also like to side with Jeff's latter bit. Liturgy aren't pioneers, but followers of the overall USBM scene which is known for its progressive nature.

Posted by red-pink | October 3, 2011 12:39 AM

No Vegas show?

Posted by Son of Hender | October 28, 2011 6:27 AM

Why is something as amazing as Mayhem being featured on a website called 'Brooklyn Vegan'? Fuck off and write about Vampire Weekend or some shit.

Posted by Your Mum | November 3, 2011 10:46 AM

^says the person who took the time to do a search of said site for the article on Mayhem.

Posted by Anonymous | November 3, 2011 11:42 AM

@12:01 brooklynVEGAN not brooklynvegetarian. But... 2 eggs is a safe bet in any baking recipe.

Posted by VEGANPOLICE | January 3, 2012 7:10 PM

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